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A bar of soap in a sock for Private Pile.
dsb9938 does some great work. As a (non-Android) developer myself, I know how frustrating it can be when software issues arise, especially when you have ungrateful users that feel like they are entitled to a piece of software that is developed for free by someone in their spare time that asks for nothing in return. It's disgusting. This is why we can't have nice things.
I hope that dsb9938 decides to come back. We need people like him to help unlock our devices full potential. Screw the whiners. Let them be drown in their own misery.
I agree with you... But this thread is getting locked in 3-2-1 BOOM!
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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His account us temporarily disabled but he could probably make a new one or something since its not IP banning
Ban him. Pure and simple
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Brilliant guys.. at least get the guys name correct..Lol
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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So there is no thread for *****ing so I am making myself one. I absolutely hate to no end that a couple of douchefags can ruin a good thing for everyone. One such big douchebag is that retard Luke666. How can he go in and start *****ing to a good dev like DSB who is doing so much good work for little to nothing or free. I am absolutely pissed of the outcome of the situation but I respect DSB's decision to move away from the jumpsuit and hope one day he can change his mind. I am from the rezound forums which had so much bull**** go on. I wish everyone that wants to run thier mouth would just scream at theirselfs in the mirror or bang their head on a door frame its all just BS but ok then we cant all get what we want. If a mod can close this thread as not to cause I flame war it would be great I just needed to get this off my chest. I hope everyone, well everyone but Luke667 had a Merry Christmas and has a Happy New Year
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And this comment makes you better than Luke 666 or Luke 667 or Luke1333? This is the issue with xda members. If you don't have something good to help the situation out don't say anything. Name calling isn't the answer.
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If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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This is in no way helpful
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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kids who read GPL and think they are owed, and DESERVE something. people like DSB do it in his free time, and people expect paid support.
that is what this is.
All i have to say about all of this is. Anyone should be able to say there opinion. That is in a good way. If you are just writing a post to piss someone off i believe that you should be banned from the forums. No ifs, and's, or buts.
It is ridiculous anyone would grip about a mod that clearly starts off with the phrase "I am in no way responsible..." I haven't even switched from the stock rom just because I want things to work. If I was willing to explore and felt like reloading my setup to switch roms, I wouldn't *****. It is to be expected. When a new rom is released, I wait to see what the issues (if any) are before I would attempt a re-flash.
There are good devs on this board but I have seen quite a few of them get chased away by whiners and complainers. Hell, I am still using a rom from Roebeet on my GTab who used to be here but left for the same reason. He actually started his own website to build roms. It is a hobby, not a job. Don't expect stuff and you will not be disappointed.
Just remember, a lot of these whiners are the new generation who will be running this country in a few years and making it suck for all of us.
So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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While Luke's comments weren't "productive" , they also were not rude or ban worthy. While I enjoy dsb's work, he has a bad attitude in general and I thought it was disrespectful as well as made him look like a giant cry baby for saying he'd never release anything else because Luke asked him to have some accountability for the fact he messed up on his latest kernel, 2.3.1 which was rebooting everybodies phones. Luke may have gone about it the wrong way, but I believe he felt as I did. Felt that dsb was ignoring the fact that there was something seriously wrong with his latest kernel. Dsb had incinuated that it wasn't his kernel that made everbodies phones lock up and reboot, but it was "problems with the phone, even on stock". Nobody minds if you make a mistake and your work directly messes up phones. At least take responsibility and admit you were wrong so you can start working on a fix. Also dsb was frequently rude to commentors who did nothing wrong or acted flip towards them. This behavior is simply unacceptable especially for a recognised developer. Recognized developers represent xda and they should carry themselves with respect for others and themselves while posting on the forums, even if others don't always.
To the OP of this thread. Grow up.
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So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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You can still do all those things. I followed the cube kernal from day one and to me the luke guy is being made a villian here. don't know him, don't care to know him. but DSB was very sarcastic to him on the forums. that's when they both started talking crap. either way it sucks and hope he decides to return. i used all the kernals he made and ended up sticking with the unsecured. but swipe to unlock was great. unless you've read the entire cube thread don't jump to judge.
Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke definitely is missing a filter. Again for me this isn't about Luke's actions but Dsb's. Dsb will constantly run into lukes everywhere in life. Not just on the forums. My advice to dsb is to work on his forbearance for others.
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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Like that won't happen when Rootzwiki is bigger?
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Yes this is the reason, devs are starting to resent each other because noobs are doing what they always have. Genius.
Devs love to dev. If they don't do it here, you can find them by doing a little searching. The problem is like any work place, organization, etc.....basically anywhere people are involved with other people everything gets ****ing political.
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idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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troll attempt is pathetic...
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
Maybe the famous enough that they don't need xda anymore lol, who knows man you will get some either way, developers come and go, life changes all the time, you notice more if your a flashaholic like I used to be I got tired of flashing more then on ROM at day so I enjoy life more and actually use my phone more often pics look great on this phone BTW
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I just realized that this thread is titled, "why IS so many devs." lol good one
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its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
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You act like the developers need users, when it fact, it's the other way around lol. Developers first and foremost develop for themselves and then later share what they made with the world. No Rom developer is getting rich off this, it's a hobby.
There's a reason you dont see developers asking where the users are, but you see plenty of threads from users asking that question.
Users will go where the developers are or they wont get their work.
Devs are probably sick of all the useless comments people post that are useless. The flaming and so on...
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If developers wish to leave xda wishes them the best of luck, thread closed.
I do not know what certain peoples issues are, maybe little man complex or internet tough guy thing but it is friggin ridiculous. A noob posts a question and out of 30 responses he gets one that is an answer. You guys need to chill and I am willing to bet 99% of you would cower in person.
I am a family man with kids so you insecure people do not phase me, but it is downgrading the quality of xda and that is proven by less visits and posts by devs.
To those with patience and a desire to help noobs and others thank you. Mag,freeza,myn,empire,virus,leo and tons of others, thank you for your part in making this site bearable between the immature losers.
I am done with this topic now and will leave it to the bad ass guys to flame away. And by the way, I wonder how many of those smart asses have developed anything lately? Maybe they have, I haven't looked but just a thought.
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I try to be nice as possible. My take: That "noob"you're helping out, might be the next great dev here one day. So try not to push them away...... We were all "noobs" at one time. ****, there's still a lot of subjects that I could be considered a "noob" on.
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I try to be nice as possible. My take: That "noob"you're helping out, might be the next great dev here one day. So try not to push them away...... We were all "noobs" at one time. ****, there's still a lot of subjects that I could be considered a "noob" on.
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Very true. Freeza just went out of his way to help me with something. It has just gotten old and worse lately
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sprintuser1977 said:
Very true. Freeza just went out of his way to help me with something. It has just gotten old and worse lately
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Yeah, it also crazy how people get mad at someone for posting a thread in the general section about how they feel. If you don't like the thread don't comment on it.
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Maybe it will help the slower tough ones if we post the definition of general since I doubt they have dictionaries and their educated friends are too busy to help them.
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Honestly, I wish mod's would just instantly delete any smart ass comments immediately. We are all here for the same reason, to learn more and how to mod our phones. I remember when I joined several years ago, there were no flames, and people helped out without posting something pointless like use the search button. We were all noobs once, and needed to be steered in the right direction.
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You know what's funny to. is that a lot of the aholes are mostly in the 3d forums. In any other forum you can get nice and helping people. Except here, very hostile environment.
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I do not know what certain peoples issues are, maybe little man complex or internet tough guy thing but it is friggin ridiculous. A noob posts a question and out of 30 responses he gets one that is an answer. You guys need to chill and I am willing to bet 99% of you would cower in person.
I am a family man with kids so you insecure people do not phase me, but it is downgrading the quality of xda and that is proven by less visits and posts by devs.
To those with patience and a desire to help noobs and others thank you. Mag,freeza,myn,empire,virus,leo and tons of others, thank you for your part in making this site bearable between the immature losers.
I am done with this topic now and will leave it to the bad ass guys to flame away. And by the way, I wonder how many of those smart asses have developed anything lately? Maybe they have, I haven't looked but just a thought.
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You just have to understand that probably half the people in this forum are teenagers.
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You just have to understand that probably half the people in this forum are teenagers.
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True, but that's not always a valid excuse. Some quality contributors/dev's on XDA are only teenagers themselves. So there is always a flipside to the coin. That being said, it does feel like we need a yard duty at times. lol
KB112 said:
True, but that's not always a valid excuse. Some quality contributors/dev's on XDA are only teenagers themselves. So there is always a flipside to the coin. That being said, it does feel like we need a yard duty at times. lol
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Empire is a good example. Great kid imo
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True those devs are teens but you don't see them acting immature. And the way things are going. A yard duty is exactly what is needed to get the immature out of here IMO.
I made a comment to a certain member on here yesterday. One who always tries to belittle the person that made a mistake. I get tired of seeing that ****. I'm usually an easy going guy right out the gate. But that **** really gets under my skin. Why be a **** about it?? Just help and point or show him the right way. In the 2 paragraphs he wrote, it was all useless, instead of helping the guy out in less amount of space and energy. Felt good to know I had a lot of members behind me on that tho. There is hope!
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I made a comment to a certain member on here yesterday. One who always tries to belittle the person that made a mistake. I get tired of seeing that ****. I'm usually an easy going guy right out the gate. But that **** really gets under my skin. Why be a **** about it?? Just help and point or show him the right way. In the 2 paragraphs he wrote, it was all useless, instead of helping the guy out in less amount of space and energy. Felt good to know I had a lot of members behind me on that tho. There is hope!
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Excatly +1 jay
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I made a comment to a certain member on here yesterday. One who always tries to belittle the person that made a mistake. I get tired of seeing that ****. I'm usually an easy going guy right out the gate. But that **** really gets under my skin. Why be a **** about it?? Just help and point or show him the right way. In the 2 paragraphs he wrote, it was all useless, instead of helping the guy out in less amount of space and energy. Felt good to know I had a lot of members behind me on that tho. There is hope!
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I try to help where I can. I "troll" the q&a and general sections to answer where I can and help as much as possible. But in certain circumstances I have been know to be an ass at times and also post pictures to laugh at as well. While I see most here as normal people just looking for answers there are a select few that honestly need to further their education by returning to middle school and attempting to finish all twelve grades. Meaning u do get tired of seeing a select few that have no common sense nor do they attempt to fix any problems themselves. They would rather have someone do it for them and it gets tiring. Thise people r usually ruder than the people giving them a hard time to begin with. Sorry just my opinion
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I do not know what certain peoples issues are, maybe little man complex or internet tough guy thing but it is friggin ridiculous. A noob posts a question and out of 30 responses he gets one that is an answer. You guys need to chill and I am willing to bet 99% of you would cower in person.
I am a family man with kids so you insecure people do not phase me, but it is downgrading the quality of xda and that is proven by less visits and posts by devs.
To those with patience and a desire to help noobs and others thank you. Mag,freeza,myn,empire,virus,leo and tons of others, thank you for your part in making this site bearable between the immature losers.
I am done with this topic now and will leave it to the bad ass guys to flame away. And by the way, I wonder how many of those smart asses have developed anything lately? Maybe they have, I haven't looked but just a thought.
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I agree 100%! If someone does double post or ask a question that had already been answered, show them there error (respectfully of course) and move on. No need to be an ass about it.
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i try to stay away from post like these, but occasionally get sucked in.. i feel part of the problem here in 3D land, is that most of us come from different phones. meaning here on XDA we are coming from a different part of the forum. I came from the heroC boards, and everyone there was always helpful, if someone asked a question that had been asked before, yeah they may have gotten harrassed a little bit, but they got their answer. i think that everyone deserves the respect of an answer, but i also believe that you should put back into the community what you get out of it. for a community to grow, the community has to lead as an example for new members. give them the answer, but say i got this by using search, thats not outlandish.. and there isnt any problem with having fun either, you just have to know your boundaries, some people take it all a little too far.
i have been on both sides of this fence, and i am no internet tough guy. i just think we all need to lighten up and help the community..
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i try to stay away from post like these, but occasionally get sucked in.. i feel part of the problem here in 3D land, is that most of us come from different phones. meaning here on XDA we are coming from a different part of the forum. I came from the heroC boards, and everyone there was always helpful, if someone asked a question that had been asked before, yeah they may have gotten harrassed a little bit, but they got their answer. i think that everyone deserves the respect of an answer, but i also believe that you should put back into the community what you get out of it. for a community to grow, the community has to lead as an example for new members. give them the answer, but say i got this by using search, thats not outlandish.. and there isnt any problem with having fun either, you just have to know your boundaries, some people take it all a little too far.
i have been on both sides of this fence, and i am no internet tough guy. i just think we all need to lighten up and help the community..
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A little entertainment doesnt hurt lol
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You are the 99% I'm the 1%
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I got this idea while lurking on the rezound general forum, and a lot of people have really pissed off the amazing devs that offered their help to bring out the most out of the phone. Yeah, it might be a little late to be making this, but with the Eris being my first phone, the community here has pretty well taken care of each other and the developers stuck with us, at least, until they got a newer phone and moved on. My experience in the rezound forum has been a little less than savory, especially in the last few weeks. All of the trolls and wannabe heroes that tell the trolls off have made me remember and miss the good old days here. It's been too damn long, and these devs deserve a thread where we kiss their asses (no sarcasm) To all the devs that ever worked on the Eris, thank you for all of your hard work.
Here's a list of the ones I know of below. I know that there were a lot, so there may be some missing. Just make a post or pm me and I'll add you if I missed you. No particular order. I just went through the first 11 pages of threads in the development subforum.
punk.kaos
Conap
tazzpatriot
CondemnedSoul
workshed
jcase
MongooseHelix
CPCookieMan
gnarlyc
zach.xtr
Macrodroid
mjgdroid
r2DoesInc
Framework43
tenzomonk
.mak
SikYou
hakkeshou
spc_hicks09
Captainkrtek
toastcfh
hector93
bftb0
scary alien
T.C.P
...and also, thanks to the resident moderator, mrkite38 for having kept the peace, as well as our new moderator, andyharney
And to you devs, don't be afraid to make yourselves known again in this thread. I want to edit the OP and name every one of you guys
champdr0id said:
I got this idea while lurking on the rezound general forum, and a lot of people have really pissed off the amazing devs that offered their help to bring out the most out of the phone. Yeah, it might be a little late to be making this, but with the Eris being my first phone, the community here has pretty well taken care of each other and the developers stuck with us, at least, until they got a newer phone and moved on. My experience in the rezound forum has been a little less than savory, especially in the last few weeks. All of the trolls and wannabe heroes that tell the trolls off have made me remember and miss the good old days here. It's been too damn long, and these devs deserve a thread where we kiss their asses (no sarcasm) To all the devs that ever worked on the Eris, thank you for all of your hard work.
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The trolls are insane lol. No place like this community was for sure
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CS, I must say I miss seeing your name as an OP, but I see you got Recognized Developer now. Congrats, bro! I can't believe this my first time seeing that title underneath your name.
as for trolls, man, the rezound forum just got a third moderator because of all the trolling. there's so much hating going on over there. makes me miss the good times here where everyone got along and could make and take a joke.
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CS, I must say I miss seeing your name as an OP, but I see you got Recognized Developer now. Congrats, bro! I can't believe this my first time seeing that title underneath your name.
as for trolls, man, the rezound forum just got a third moderator because of all the trolling. there's so much hating going on over there. makes me miss the good times here where everyone got along and could make and take a joke.
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Thank you ... I haven't looked in the Rezound threads but I've heard its pretty tough there at times. I've found though, that instead of trying to be defensive with them, just call them out, let them know you really don't care and tell them to f-off .... They run back into hiding with their tail between there legs haha.
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Thank you ... I haven't looked in the Rezound threads but I've heard its pretty tough there at times. I've found though, that instead of trying to be defensive with them, just call them out, let them know you really don't care and tell them to f-off .... They run back into hiding with their tail between there legs haha.
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well our newest mod just started a big thread cleanup project. one thread at a time is gonna be locked, then stripped of the irrelevance and hate posts. ha it's about time
I know you're looking. Come on and post! So far it looks like a pm gone public ha
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Thanks as well. This forum introduced me to the whole rooting experience and allowed me to keep using this phone long past what I would have put up with if I had to remain stock.
A a developer I know the troubles with any project and appreciate all the efforts.
Unfortunately I dropped the phone the last week and screen died, so I had to do a quick upgrade. Though about he Rezound but ended up with the LG Spectrum. Nice screen, rooted, but not much in the way of ROM's. Have to wait until ICS comes out.
Again thanks folks.
****ing right. It was a little more then a tear ago I stumbled upon this place and took took the plunge to root my Droid Eris, knowing that I was running 2.1 and would never see anything higher then that cuz the Eris was already at end of life. Then boom rooted unlocked and running gin-tazz. I've been hooked ever sense. Now mongoose is still putting work into this device running 4.0 haha amazing. Thank you all very much
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I'd like to see bftb0's name listed up top.
There's so many things he's done for the Eris community, both here and over at AndroidForums, it would be a crime to not have his member name listed for posterity along with all of the other fine folks you listed above.
He is, without question, one of the most knowledgeable folks to have ever posted here at XDA and many, many folks are indebted to him for his help (me included ).
Cheers!
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I'd like to see bftb0's name listed up top.
There's so many things he's done for the Eris community, both here and over at AndroidForums, it would be a crime to not have his member name listed for posterity along with all of the other fine folks you listed above.
He is, without question, one of the most knowledgeable folks to have ever posted here at XDA and many, many folks are indebted to him for his help (me included ).
Cheers!
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Done, and I added you too. I forgot about your modified recovery that didn't rely on the trackball to be used. I thank you, good sir! That recovery came in handy when my trackball started getting really bad.
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Some forums go overboard with pinned threads, or at least it's overwhelming how many there are. There aren't that many in this section. What does everyone else feel about if this should be pinned or not? I do.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Some forums go overboard with pinned threads, or at least it's overwhelming how many there are. There aren't that many in this section. What does everyone else feel about if this should be pinned or not? I do.
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you really think that? i guess i could PM mrkite and ask him to sticky it. anyone else alright with that?
edit: just sent the mod a pm. we'll see what happens
The eris was my second android phone after I left T-Mobile and my G1. This community has been incredible. I would also like to thank DS36. He was always willing to help out noobs like myself and his tweak thread was pretty awesome. This really has been the best community I've seen here. I miss the good ole days of kaos froyo and gingertazz. Thanks to all the devs that made the eris awesome. And thanks to jcase for making it easy to root my kindle too.
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I miss this forum, it was peaceful n has awesome devs, i have the rezound n holy crap it gets crazy over there ha I dont even post, just read haha. But I wanna say Thanks to all the devs, ive had some awesome themes on my eris
I miss this forum a lot. We still haven't got s-off figured out for the HTC One S. It's pretty sparse over there.
But man, back in the day this place was humming all day every day. Workshed made it a beautiful phone. Even compared to the phone I have now, it seems like it flew. I know that's just the nostalgia talking, but I don't care. GSB is a great rom.
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Thanks again devs and mods ! :good:
I still use my Eris (and tazz's rom) every day as my primary phone !
im still running around here lol trying to get jb running,,,think my eris has finaaly died almost,if anyone has an extra,pm me and ill do what i can for awhile ,,thanx champ :laugh:
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Ummmm... Me
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Ummmm... Me
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Done
and done. :highfive:
the thread is stickied!
As you all know I hit the game late, but even tho I think we will crack this baby in the near future I would still like to get a head start so if anyone has a unlocked 4G that they want to donate are make a deal let me know in pm... O have a loaded rom that I would like to put out bit o won't until o can test it and such... If there are any takers shoot me a message and ill get the ball rolling
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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Sad to see you left the rezound. I totally understand though. It's rough over in that forum. I was looking at switching too but I'm shocked there isn't at least root for this phone. Anyway just wanted to say thanks for all your past work and I wish you well in your future endeavors as well
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root will come, same thing happened with the Rezound, htcdev worked at first (unofficially) then months later it was back officially.
same will happen with this phone IMO, AND S-OFF is being worked on already, the Rez took 6 months before S-OFF had interest
Newts Rez bricked from what he told me
I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
Man newt.. they must be rough on you bud.
Hope it gets better, sad to hear people are being an asshole to a good developer. I'd be happy to see you on the OG Incredible again or the Nexus!
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I wasn't going to say anything but this kinda annoyed me because it reminds me of the little babies that were running around the rezound forum... I fire up my computer and i see that some little kid or kids rated this thread real low and I'm trying to figure out why, so if you guys don't want me to dev for this device just let me know... Don't be afraid to speak up that goes for the the devs to... If you my being here bugs you that bad I'm all ears and if so ill be gone... And if it was not anyone from here that did it thats fine also I just don't want to waste my time here if im not wanted
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i didn't see anything like that, ????? i think people are getting antsy waiting for something, i'd just ignore it.who cares what they say!
I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I dont even have a DINC or Verizon in this matter, however, every place has trolls. You can't ever get rid of them. It's up to you if you want to dev or not. Nobody is forcing you. I like the smaller communities since you can get to know people and make more connections. I'm trying to find a way to "crack" HTCDev's method for unlock_code tokens. I want to do this to learn and to have fun. People will bash me, even though they are idiots. I just report them to a mod and the mod will handle it and keep them in check. Overall, do what you gotta do.
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I've been doing this along time and I know about trolls trust me, but I want whoever has the problem to speak up but they prob wont
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Can we just agree to ignore it? Drama comes in many forms.
I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I have never and will never rate a thread. Either it applies to you or it doesn't. If I have a problem with what's going on in the thread, I'll address it with the problem poster.
It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I hope someone comes through with a development phone for you... PLEASE DON'T LEAVE!! We certainly need all the help we can get! I
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It looks like whoever did it don't want to speak up anyways so problem solved ill just wait for root and work on one of my other devices...
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I don't even own this phone, I'm still on a Dinc, however I just voted the thread 5 stars, does it impact the difference of you dev for this phone or getting a used phone to dev on, it probably won't or shouldn't. I also sent the email, about the bootloader, and I spoke with VZ exceutive office about the locked bootloader, is that going to make a difference to VZ on unlocking it, probably not, but I did it for the group cause, because I would like to get this phone.
Honestly, it's guys that have the time and talent like yourself and other dev's that help make these phones what they are, if you aren't interested in this device, that's your decision too but I think 99.9% of us don't have the knowledge you do on these phones, so we greatly value your work, and would like to see you and others help us out, while we try to do what we can to help out.
I don't know what happened to the REZ forum, but I've heard it was a bunch of BS Drama, that I've never seen on the Dinc forum, maybe your burnt from that experience, don't know, but I wouldn't let a thread vote sway your opinion on this group here.
thankfully newt has an Inc4 and will be up and going once root comes.
Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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Some people are so unappreciated of the hard work done by devs that it amazes me. If I had root on my phone, I'd gladly switch. I've enjoyed your work in the past, newt, and I look forward to the amazing things you'll be able to do with this phone once it's rooted.
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I second that! :good:
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I wouldn't pay much attention to it. I don't read threads because they have a high rating. I read them because they have an interest to me. If anyone is able to send you a dev phone I very much doubt the rating will scare them away. Besides, your rep as a good dev means a great deal more.
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I agree. I've been here for 4 years or so, and up until this thread never bothered to notice the threads had ratings. Now that I am aware of the ratings, I will continue to ignore them.
I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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I hope you get a dev phone so we can get the show on the road. I'm still trying to find patterns and see if i can "crack" the generator/algorithm HTC uses. It'll be hard and time consuming.
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you the man hasoon, GOOD LUCK
A contributor or dev posts a ROM and many people download and flash it. The ROM is solid yet has a few bugs. The Dev responds to comments about these bugs and says they will be fixed in the next release. For the benefit of the doubt let's say a few weeks go by and the Dev volunteers info about this ROM but says a release isn't ready yet. Fair enough. A few more weeks go by with no mention of a release. Why is asking for an ETA frowned upon in this, albeit rare, situation?
The go to response is "these guys do this on their own time. They aren't being paid. How dare you even assume to think that you deserve any sort of progress update". I get it, but my point is, the Dev posts a ROM for it to be used by the people and to get offended because someone asks for an ETA is kind of ridiculous to me. If the Dev was doing it for just himself he wouldn't post it on the forum and I'm saying that making the ROM public comes with a few caveats. Like maybe some people have an Interest in progress.
Full disclosure: I've been an xda user for a long time and I've seen many people needlessly get their heads bitten off for asking for an ETA. I want to ask for an ETA in a thread and I'm afraid of the stupid backlash.
Maybe this goes in the general section. I'm not sure. I am technically asking a question.
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A contributor or dev posts a ROM and many people download and flash it. The ROM is solid yet has a few bugs. The Dev responds to comments about these bugs and says they will be fixed in the next release. For the benefit of the doubt let's say a few weeks go by and the Dev volunteers info about this ROM but says a release isn't ready yet. Fair enough. A few more weeks go by with no mention of a release. Why is asking for an ETA frowned upon in this, albeit rare, situation?
The go to response is "these guys do this on their own time. They aren't being paid. How dare you even assume to think that you deserve any sort of progress update". I get it, but my point is, the Dev posts a ROM for it to be used by the people and to get offended because someone asks for an ETA is kind of ridiculous to me. If the Dev was doing it for just himself he wouldn't post it on the forum and I'm saying that making the ROM public comes with a few caveats. Like maybe some people have an Interest in progress.
Full disclosure: I've been an xda user for a long time and I've seen many people needlessly get their heads bitten off for asking for an ETA. I want to ask for an ETA in a thread and I'm afraid of the stupid backlash.
Maybe this goes in the general section. I'm not sure. I am technically asking a question.
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Well let's see,
They are doing this on their own time and money
They are doing this for FREE
The have jobs,
They have familys
Changing one item will or may affect other portions of the rom
Sometimes the best of intentions don't work out
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FIVE MINUTE JOB
It only takes a couple of minutes............................................hours later the change still does not work!!!!!
You should be ashamed for even bringing the topic up!
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Well let's see,
They are doing this on their own time and money
They are doing this for FREE
The have jobs,
They have familys
Changing one item will or may affect other portions of the rom
Sometimes the best of intentions don't work out
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FIVE MINUTE JOB
It only takes a couple of minutes............................................hours later the change still does not work!!!!!
You should be ashamed for even bringing the topic up!
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Well, I'm not ashamed.
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Well, I'm not ashamed.
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Then crack a couple books and start learning yourself rather than sitting on the sidelines asking the coach when you are gonna get some game time while only wearing your shower cap!
This is so funny to me. Everybody walks on eggshells and they all think the same thing. "I wonder how the Dev is coming along"? It's hilarious.
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This is so funny to me. Everybody walks on eggshells and they all think the same thing. "I wonder how the Dev is coming along"? It's hilarious.
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I don't think that. I am happy a Rom is even released. In a house building scenario: you build a house/shelter for everyone. There is a minor flaw in the foundation due to termites or something... Nothing too serious, not life threatening. You still have to go and fix it without messing up anything on top of the foundation. You try to fix it only to see making that quick fix actually made the plumbing wonky. You fix the plumbing only to see it made it worse. Might as well just keep it the way it was before.
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I don't think that. I am happy a Rom is even released. In a house building scenario: you build a house/shelter for everyone. There is a minor flaw in the foundation due to termites or something... Nothing too serious, not life threatening. You still have to go and fix it without messing up anything on top of the foundation. You try to fix it only to see making that quick fix actually made the plumbing wonky. You fix the plumbing only to see it made it worse. Might as well just keep it the way it was before.
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Honestly, this post is more directed at users who get bent out of shape when someone even mentions an ETA. rudeness is the perfect word. I've never asked because I personally feel similar to you. I still wonder, though. The reaction to this question by users makes my skin crawl.
Related: when someone is ordered to read an OP and subsequent posts that consists of 100 pages. Really? I just want to know what the bugs are and I'm being told to read small talk anecdotes and broken English? It's stupid and rude.
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I get where you are coming from. If its a month out on something that was said a few days or a week. In that sense someone should reach out to the dev. If it hadn't happened with the instagram downloaded for xposed then none would have started the project themselves. But for other things, you do have to remember most of the people here lead a life with full time jobs and maybe a family issue or job issue came up. While they are making these things for us, it isn't their responsibility to inform people they Dont really know if a family member died or something.
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I get where you are coming from. If its a month out on something that was said a few days or a week. In that sense someone should reach out to the dev. If it hadn't happened with the instagram downloaded for xposed then none would have started the project themselves. But for other things, you do have to remember most of the people here lead a life with full time jobs and maybe a family issue or job issue came up. While they are making these things for us, it isn't their responsibility to inform people they Dont really know if a family member died or something.
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I agree. I'm also not calling out the devs with this post, although it may seem that way. The devs are the experts here and of course they have lives not connected to android. My beef is with the children like buddy up there with the first reply on this thread. His answer is exactly why I've been staying away from these forums.
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Just ignore em. Gotta remember there are people that are angry in general and that need to find an outlet for it. Not your fault, just the internet. Easily ignored. I think it was a good question. Been following these forums for over a year now and you do see it all too often.
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I agree. I'm also not calling out the devs with this post, although it may seem that way. The devs are the experts here and of course they have lives not connected to android. My beef is with the children like buddy up there with the first reply on this thread. His answer is exactly why I've been staying away from these forums.
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If that's what you think then you should know you came off wrong...which happens when conversing over type.
I took your post to be in the same offensive category as the self entitled who demand updates. (And yes I deal with them too).
I would much rather be wrong on my initial assessment of your OP but please understand how it was received.
Hi all...this thread caught my eye. Interesting subject. Nothing wrong with it. Its the little script kiddies that hold real devs to god-like status that act rude.
Been around since the G1. Hasn't changed. If a dev is worth a flip he or she will not get all bent out of shape. Has the right to say back off but at least it's from the guy with the actual talent saying it! I've seen devs eat that crap up and get diva complexes which makes me laugh when it happens. Threatening to stop work yada yada. Told one to piss off and leave...a long time ago, different forum. Someone took up that diva's slack...ended up with a nice ROM for a crap phone.
Good times.
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