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nvm
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From the other thread: " Please don't sell/trade on the forums, it is in violation of XDA rules." I don't sell anything nor do I want to trade anything. I request something or I ask for something and give out money in order to say thanks. It's close to a buying request maybe, but not selling nor trading. Also, if that violates the rules, what can I do then? I need someone to compile that for me and I wanna thank the guy who spends his time doing that in form of money.
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From the other thread: " Please don't sell/trade on the forums, it is in violation of XDA rules." I don't sell anything nor do I want to trade anything. I request something or I ask for something and give out money in order to say thanks. It's close to a buying request maybe, but not selling nor trading. Also, if that violates the rules, what can I do then? I need someone to compile that for me and I wanna thank the guy who spends his time doing that in form of money.
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Actually, that is, by definition, trading. You want to pay someone for a service, that's trading, and that is not allowed here. If someone can't/won't compile the recovery for you then you'll have to learn how to do it yourself.
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Actually, that is, by definition, trading. You want to pay someone for a service, that's trading, and that is not allowed here. If someone can't/won't compile the recovery for you then you'll have to learn how to do it yourself.
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So what can I do to give someone money as a "thank you"?
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So what can I do to give someone money as a "thank you"?
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You can't. Paying a member for a device is not allowed, as I've already stated numerous times. We allow members to donate to other members as a means of saying thankyou for the work they offer to the community in general, but paying for a specific service isn't allowed here. Here's a link to the XDA rules:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263
I'm not sure if I can close my own thread. If I can, I didn't found out how. If not, close request.
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Hello,
Since I'm new here, I don't yet know the OP for supporting the devs working to root phones, so I'd like to know what the senior members recommend.
I understand when someone finds a way to root, it's recommended that we reward them through their PayPal button, but is there anything we can do during the lead-up to that? Donations? Resources?
I want to support in any way I can, is all.
Thanks,
Andreas
Excrucibo said:
Hello,
Since I'm new here, I don't yet know the OP for supporting the devs working to root phones, so I'd like to know what the senior members recommend.
I understand when someone finds a way to root, it's recommended that we reward them through their PayPal button, but is there anything we can do during the lead-up to that? Donations? Resources?
I want to support in any way I can, is all.
Thanks,
Andreas
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Sit down, strap in, hang on, and WATCH the show buddy. You'll know when and where to donate when the time is right.
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I'm new here
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For future reference try not to post in the development section. Put your questions in Q&A section.
And don't think that throwing money at the developers is going to speed the process. The best devs on this site do it for fun rather than money.
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Nutzy said:
And don't think that throwing money at the developers is going to speed the process. The best devs on this site do it for fun rather than money.
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That makes sense. When I hear of people feeding Sprint reps in exchange for information, I'd like to kick some money their way to help with it.
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For future reference try not to post in the development section. Put your questions in Q&A section.
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10-4. Sorry about it.
I thought that since my question was specifically related to this section, and those my question was directed to frequented this forum more than, say, the Q&A forum, this would be a good place for it.
But if this forum is only for discussion specifically relating to the technical specifications of the phone, my apologies.
It is, for development I mean. Feel free to donate to xda, seems to keep the site working.
BANG! from my shooter...
And rule #1?
There are no ETA's
myn said:
And rule #1?
There are no ETA's
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Oh yeah, I know! I didn't mean to imply.
myn said:
And rule #1?
There are no ETA's
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and rule #2. Don't forget rule #1. LOL
Myn, glad to see ya buddy. Food has been delivered for any opening day 3d shipped with 2gb cards.
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As a mod and member of several forums this section is out of control... If it's a shortage of moderators I would gladly help... If it's just lazyness....it needs to stop. THIS IS NOT THE XDA I KNOW.........
You'll find out when this gets closed lol
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SteveG12543 said:
You'll find out when this gets closed lol
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA Premium.
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im ready to see a ban?
Danny80y said:
As a mod and member of several forums this section is out of control... If it's a shortage of moderators I would gladly help... If it's just lazyness....it needs to stop. THIS IS NOT THE XDA I KNOW.........
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PM's work wonders man, hell I could become a mod and we could rule this Forum with a aluminum backing
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As a mod and member of several forums this section is out of control... If it's a shortage of moderators I would gladly help... If it's just lazyness....it needs to stop. THIS IS NOT THE XDA I KNOW.........
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Agreed, this is ridiculous, someone needs to put the smack down on these non prime focused threads ...wait..i almost feel like the mods are trolling us.
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PM's work wonders man, hell I could become a mod and we could rule this Forum with a aluminum backing
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Pm unanswered..... I don't mind it being closed if that what it takes to get a response from someone that is supposed to be watching this forum.....
As for being banned...why? I'm here just like everyone else trying it sift thru this mess... I wasn't aware asking for help was a forum offence? If it makes you feel better I will reword the title....
And what exactly is the problem that just made you get awfully close to a ban? If you have a problem with anything, report it and we will take a look as soon as one of us catches wind of it. Insulting the staff will only piss us off and you will end up either with an infraction or a ban.
Sent from my 4.7" Titan.... My device IS bigger than yours.
This is a ballsy way to ask for a job... but it just might work
Danny80y said:
As a mod and member of several forums this section is out of control... If it's a shortage of moderators I would gladly help... If it's just lazyness....it needs to stop. THIS IS NOT THE XDA I KNOW.........
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I have spoken to him/her about this, and he said to PM him/her. His/her name is jerdog. Oh and I am guessing he/she has other forums to worry about too. So, this is the biggest developer community made forum. So he/she might be busy taking care of other problems. Give him/her some time and he/she will get what needs to be done here done.
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And what exactly is the problem that just made you get awfully close to a ban? If you have a problem with anything, report it and we will take a look as soon as one of us catches wind of it. Insulting the staff will only piss us off and you will end up either with an infraction or a ban.
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I'm pretty sure I would get a ban if I went around and flagged all the useless threads in this section.... and I'm sorry if you take something I said personally. It was intended as an observation same as my PM that wasn't answered.......
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I have spoken to him/her about this, and he said to PM him/her. His/her name is jerdog. Oh and I am guessing he/she has other forums to worry about too. So, this is the biggest developer community made forum. So he/she might be busy taking care of other problems. Give him/her some time and he/she will get what needs to be done here done.
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What he said... If jerdog is aware, then having this thread up makes no sense at all. Thread closed.
Sent from my 4.7" Titan.... My device IS bigger than yours.
i know the mod i work for the same site with him he's a good guy and is probably busy no need to bag on him
I know there are a lot of talented and knowledgeable people in this forum. Won't somebody please make a better app than TapaTalk? The search function in this app is awful. Search a subject and the every post where the subject is somewhere hidden, comes up. Why did I pay for an app that I have to resort to Google's search engine to do a better job than the app for it's supported forums?
Surely some talented dev, wants to make some serious money?? How often do they update this app anyway?? How many of you guys and gals, do this for free and are constantly working on improving and updating your work?
This app is prime for a take down! The best thing about this app is that makes the forum easier to read on mobile devices. Heck, small businesses get local developers to make a site that will work on smaller screens?
How many thousands of people use this app? I personally don't know anything about the technical side. I do have a good ear for business and I'm hearing ching, ching.
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I agree. I don't like the way handles photo attachments.
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Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
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You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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OMG, the first rule is search before posting. That's the whole point of trying to get a developer to create a forum tool with a more effective search function! That's it you got me! I'll ban myself from posting here. You all are just too important!
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justifi said:
You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money. They are here because they love what they do. Second tapatalk is not a bad app. I use forum runner myself. An app doest need to keep being updated. If it works then why update it?
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
Awww...Justifi, you are only allowed to break the rules if you are regular or a mod. You should read the fine print on the back of the 3rd page on the rules. Everyone knows that developers that do all they can to break code and contact rules abide by the rules they make with a 2 strike your out mentality.
It's ok...next time you waiver they will fluff themselves up and give you an infraction, he might even explain why in a non robotic voice.
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You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money. They are here because they love what they do. Second tapatalk is not a bad app. I use forum runner myself. An app doest need to keep being updated. If it works then why update it?
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
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And...not so much any more.
back on topic..
he is right..
Tapatalk search function sucks..
we give newies a hard time for posting the same question time and time again
in a rom yet..tapatalk is one of the prime tools used to access these same forums..
the XDA app has been crap for ages.. so I havent looked back at it.. maybe I need to..
But Search and Tapatalk before you post a question.. null and void..
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I agree D...and if there are other threads with the same topic the mods should close it and not flame it.
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You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money.
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I prob get a kick for this..
But how wrong is this quote..
There numerous developers of apps spamming across threads to
get their apps used so people will pay for them..
Try going in and bagging them for it and see how quick they flame you..
True most of the rom developers, themers do it for love..
But jezz to step up to the mark with this one has go it to take the cake..
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo
dgcruzing said:
I prob get a kick for this..
But how wrong is this quote..
There numerous developers of apps spamming across threads to
get their apps used so people will pay for them..
Try going in and bagging them for it and see how quick they flame you..
True most of the rom developers, themers do it for love..
But jezz to step up to the mark with this one has go it to take the cake..
sent from yet another MikG HTC Evo
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Ever notice the apps here are for free.
We have stated over and over again. If you are here to make.money then you are in the wrong place.
zelendel said:
Ever notice the apps here are for free.
We have stated over and over again. If you are here to make.money then you are in the wrong place.
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Zelendel, you have been around for a while..so we both know there are a lot of great minds at work on here ..
not driven by any dallor value..Not debateable..
But the facts of this thread is to open debate that maybe' just maybe...
the main mobile forum readers used at present are not as good as they are cracked to be.
tapatalk and even the xda website search functions are not well designed..
They both lead to complancy by posters both mobile and online..
And there is room for improvement..
If this comes from a $$$ driven developer then so be it.. if he had restated it as a bounty..(monetary incentive) I am sure you wouldn't take offence to this
Back to topic, As an example of a good search function on a forum site is on
Hotcopper.com.au,
its a stock site but the accuracy and narrow searches allowed make it a breeze to find current and past posts on topic, stocks, or posters
This should be compared to what is available on xda to see if there could be improvements made..
Also xda could ask the tapatalk developers ever so nicely to look into beefing up their search function..
As you have suggested one to use, I should have a look at it..
I like the mikmik forum reader but as its just linked into theirs at the moment I don't know if they bigger plans for it..
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justifi said:
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities.
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It could have been a nice discussion, Justifi.
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Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
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And yet....without users...where would you be?!
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Awww...Justifi, you are only allowed to break the rules if you are regular or a mod. You should read the fine print on the back of the 3rd page on the rules.
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Thanks Buddy for your they-probably-won't -admit-it-but-its-true comment. This is why I don't post here.
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It could have been a nice discussion, Justifi.
And yet....without users...where would you be?!
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The same place we were when it was mostly developers on this site. Remember that XDA has been around long before most users even knew what a smartphone was.
As for the bounty. XDA doesnt like bounty threads.
Check my Sig "noobs best friend" for a search plug in for FF or IE browsers.
As for my comment about being here for the money. This is one of the biggest problems as of late. XDA was made to share info and to help others to learn to do things on their own. As of late too many people are trying to make money using XDA. This is not what we are here for nor is it allowed.
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
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The same place we were when it was mostly developers on this site. Remember that XDA has been around long before most users even knew what a smartphone was.
As for the bounty. XDA doesnt like bounty threads.
Check my Sig "noobs best friend" for a search plug in for FF or IE browsers.
As for my comment about being here for the money. This is one of the biggest problems as of late. XDA was made to share info and to help others to learn to do things on their own. As of late too many people are trying to make money using XDA. This is not what we are here for nor is it allowed.
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with making money from what you love to do. Most people strive for that. I wasn't suggesting that someone open up shop in XDA. We all have to learn from somewhere.
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zelendel said:
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
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I gotta admit z, if I only read up to your first post, I would have had a whole different take on your comments then from this last post.
I have been trying make my own themes, mods and even write some apps. As a n00b to those areas, it is hard to find information at times, and this site *does* help with that. However, I would consider myself not a developer - far from it, but rather just a user. So this site *is* for users too, as they use what others have posted to possibly become devs/themers themselves someday. This site can really be a sort of school for those interested.
So I'm glad you clarified the earlier remark.
fish1552 said:
I gotta admit z, if I only read up to your first post, I would have had a whole different take on your comments then from this last post.
I have been trying make my own themes, mods and even write some apps. As a n00b to those areas, it is hard to find information at times, and this site *does* help with that. However, I would consider myself not a developer - far from it, but rather just a user. So this site *is* for users too, as they use what others have posted to possibly become devs/themers themselves someday. This site can really be a sort of school for those interested.
So I'm glad you clarified the earlier remark.
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Yeah I can seem to come across a bit harsh at times. I dont mean to be. IT is just soo many people come to XDA wanting to be spoon fed and that is not what we are here for. We are here to help people learn and to become developers themselfs. That is what a developers site is. A great place to learn.
So again sorry if I seem a bit harsh at times.
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Yeah I can seem to come across a bit harsh at times. I dont mean to be. IT is just soo many people come to XDA wanting to be spoon fed and that is not what we are here for. We are here to help people learn and to become developers themselfs. That is what a developers site is. A great place to learn.
So again sorry if I seem a bit harsh at times.
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For those that go deeper and deeper into things...XDA is great..
This age of computing so far has allowed a break away from the locked in
Software systems that we were forced into since really MS took over DOS with windows front ends
I won't even go into apple o/s speak..
Openware/shareware as the apps market now could be termed allows for us the end users direct input
With the developers to push for better products..thus XDA is the medium that brings the two together..
Like it or not at the moment its the worlds premier focal point for this..
So I understand how the purists must be shaking their heads..
Sad but true a lot of talented developers are going back underground, to less known parts of the web to cook
So then it leaves XDA holding the front so to speak..
Its all good and a big thanks to the mods for keeping it semi under control..
Its a jungle out there...
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Fish, "Z", and "Dg",
I agree with all of your most recent post. Now that, I've cooled off a bit :thumbup:. It's also known that techies as whole are not famous for great people skills. This forum is and should be a great place to learn. For the sake of encouraging more people to try to become developers or better developers, XDA could practice a "firm" tolerance. The default attitude should be to guide people to where they need to be, without flaming or threats of banishment right out the gate. IMO, it doesn't feel like that. To make mistakes is part of the learning process.
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justifi said:
Fish, "Z", and "Dg",
It's also known that techies as whole are not famous for great people skills. This forum is and should be a great place to learn. For the sake of encouraging more people to try to become developers or better developers, XDA could practice a "firm" tolerance. The default attitude should be to guide people to where they need to be, without flaming or threats of banishment right out the gate. IMO, it doesn't feel like that. To make mistakes is part of the learning process.
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+1 Justifi
I really dont understand why the bounty for nitro was closed....all it would do is give us more options.
Did you read kenny's post? Welcome to xda.... bounties for roms aren't allowed basically
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suzook said:
I really dont understand why the bounty for nitro was closed....all it would do is give us more options.
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In Forum rules:
8. Donations.
We appreciate all donations to XDA-Developers.com as it helps to keep our forum online and well maintained. As a user, you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work, however donations up front are not allowed. This forum is about sharing and not about getting paid to do something... that is what your job is for.
That is exactly what that bounty was...money to get a ROM built. However there is nothing stopping everyone from simply using the developer's DONATE button.
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Did you read kenny's post? Welcome to xda.... bounties for roms aren't allowed basically
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This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Imagine...we have 5,340,000 members, in there are 10's of thousands of ROM developers, now imagine every forum flooded with members trying to get their favorite developer to buy the same device they just purchased with a bounty thread. Think big picture. Now if it was for a device with a locked bootloader for a developer known to be able to crack bootloaders...that is a significant development desired goal that would benefit all users of that device and break open development.
I hope this explains XDA's policy a little better and thank you for understanding.
That's just not right...
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Moderators have every right to do it,link for download lead to artas site which leads us to adfly links..Any website with that purpose is forbidden on XDA...XDA is meant to be open and free!
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I get it, but actually ******* only makes you wait 5 seconds more, as if there were no ads on xda itself...
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But the point is,we can only donate to him if we want,but he cant earn on our clicks, I dont mind waiting too,but rules are rules and we must respect them.
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Maybe if he promises to add direct links mods will re-open it?
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Maybe if he promises to add direct links mods will re-open it?
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If he puts new links,then yes,mods will unlock all hes threads.
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I understand that he violated the rules of XDA and which is offensive too. I and many other people are here for development and we live for it. I understand that the moderator has been true to the rules but I request if you could see from the developers point of view too.
Earning through clicks isn't fair according to the rules and if that's entertained this site will be become a portal for earning. But if the moderator could just post a final warning to the developer that would do the needful. I'm pretty sure he would post direct links and resume back the development.
I hope you understand us and our concern towards development.
Shatavarth said:
Earning through clicks isn't fair according to the rules and if that's entertained this site will be become a portal for earning. But if the moderator could just post a final warning to the developer that would do the needful.
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And do you have personal knowledge that the mods didn't contact him via PM, as that is the method that would be used, issuing warnings prior to locking his thread? Everyone is given a chance or chances to remedy their situation before action is taken.
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And do you have personal knowledge that the mods didn't contact him via PM, as that is the method that would be used, issuing warnings prior to locking his thread? Everyone is given a chance or chances to remedy their situation before action is taken.
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im sure he was warned as well
shinobisoft said:
And do you have personal knowledge that the mods didn't contact him via PM, as that is the method that would be used, issuing warnings prior to locking his thread? Everyone is given a chance or chances to remedy their situation before action is taken.
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Well, I didn't mean that he wasn't given warnings or maybe he was given warnings.I understand the mods might have talked to him and issued warnings. I even understand that that he disrespected the mods and continued to break the "Rule no. 13" of the forum. But I,supporting the development platform would just prefer to finish the issue asap with some proper understanding between the mod and developer. I wasn't offending and assuming anything.