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I will be willing to answer any questions you have regarding wm6
my first impressions of it are pretty good... its running quite stable on my athena with apps installed
-spb mobile shell (does not work if autohide is disabled)
-spb brain evolution
-spb diary (installing this did significantly slow it down)
-wisbar advance beta 4
-resco explorer
-resco keyboard
-ae button plus
-wm5storage
-htc audio plugin
there are some more but im copying some files so i cant use the phone
intially its very very fast... much faster than wm5 noticbly so
It does seem to support native vga as in device info the resolution is listed at 640x480
i dont however see the terminal client for remote login... i could be lookin in the wrong place? i dunno
the included dialer skin / theme is quite nice
Everything seems to be working flawlessly i havent tried voip yet...
IE data speeds seem to be significantly faster for me... as compared to wm5
Ill be posting more later once i use it a bit more...
Mind to share Windows Media Player Skin
No issues found yet. The device seems *a lot* snappier, and indeed the GPS fix occurs a lot faster. I now also suddenly have a fix inhouse ... (allbeit near the window). In WM5 that simply would not happen.
boinger66 said:
It does seem to support native vga as in device info the resolution is listed at 640x480
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This resolution is listed in the WM5 too, does your device have smaller buttons, menus etc?
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This resolution is listed in the WM5 too, does your device have smaller buttons, menus etc?
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no the icon sizes seem the same but when I try to install a qvga skin it takes up the same portion when running previosly in wm5 with truevga mode
so I think it is truevga mode
also while typing the text prediciont works real well
Ergh, can I get rid of the horrible GREEN comm manager?
Other than that, its wm6 again.. Ahh, sigh of releif.
If you change the theme of your device to the windows default and then restart it should get rid of the horrible skin. For some reason mine kept the phone dialler skin until I had restarted again, but now it's not so green any more.
My first impressions are that the device itself runs very well with WM6. So far no real hassles. The only thing I have discovered is that TomTom 6 now thinks my device is a new device so it looks like WM6 has changed the hardware ID. I am still able to use my device. I had to manually active the maps though and the TomTom application for downloading maps and updates won't let me change my device to the 'new' one.
boinger66 said:
no the icon sizes seem the same but when I try to install a qvga skin it takes up the same portion when running previosly in wm5 with truevga mode
so I think it is truevga mode
also while typing the text prediciont works real well
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Yep, the buttons are large. I'm not quite with you with the other comment, could you post a screenshot? Have you managed to get the smaller homescreen top/bottom bars without installing VGA hack software?
Apart from that, everything is a lot faster, typing on the keyboard is more responsive and I'm happy, deffo worth it just for the proper email client alone.
bydandie said:
Yep, the buttons are large. I'm not quite with you with the other comment, could you post a screenshot? Have you managed to get the smaller homescreen top/bottom bars without installing VGA hack software?
Apart from that, everything is a lot faster, typing on the keyboard is more responsive and I'm happy, deffo worth it just for the proper email client alone.
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well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
no VoIp
I can't find the option, did you find it?
boinger66 said:
well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
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Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
boinger66 said:
well for example if you use a plugin for a qvga device...
it wont fill the screen
it only takes the same amount of screen space as it would on a qvga device
ie about 1/4 of the screen (i would post a pic but i removed the software)
so that leads me to believe its vga
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If I'm not asking much, can you make a youtube?
Abram said:
Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
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The IE high resolution and fit to screen do help, but it also makes the test pretty small. As an example, when displaying yahoo.com, and set to high resolution and fit to screen; the whole width of the web page is displayed.
hey can i install antena wm6.0 in o2 atom life....pls try to help me out...
pls send some sdp softwares to my mail [email protected]
Abram said:
Hi boinger66,
My main reason for getting the athena is because I do a lot of reading & editing on-the-go mostly pdfs, docs, spreadsheets & powerpoint files. Can you tell me if using these programs with lots of words on-screen (PIE, pdfs,docs, xls) whether there is an increase in the real estate? Is there less scrolling etc, just like you'd see with the vga hacks? Also, are options available to change the resolutions on the fly? Does using the "High Res" option in PIE make a huge difference than before?
Many thanks for your help
Abe.
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let me answer your questions....
1)there is no increase in real estate vs wm5 except in PIE
2)There no no option to change resolution on the fly
3)Yes it does (Pie and Hi-res)
these comments are based on my experience with uni and not athena but are valid for all VGA devices
Additionally there have been reports that VGA Hacks don't work with the later cores of wm6 (the release candidate)
faster than wm5. i had it on xda exec and when i changed to x7500 I kinda missed it but its back baby.
I was happy to see wm6 yesterday. i bought an iphone to see how it is and i was actually disappointed but wm6 made my day.
Thank you xda-dev.
Guys try using Mvr True VGA 1.2 it works..
i dont think you guys are understanding what i am saying
it is true vga
they just made the icons and buttons the same size for easy viewing
if you make smaller icons you get the realestate increase
for example if you install a qvga plug in it will not work...
it will take up the upper left corner of the screen only ... this can be observed by installing the htc audio manage today screen plugin
"Uni" VGA resolution file may work for Athena
I think some expert developers needs to extract the VGA<->QVGA toggle cab files or setup files from "Universal WM6 ROM" and give a try....
May be it will work for our Athena as well....
What do you guys say?
I was really hoping that new ROM is gonna solve this problem...and we will not have to use TrueVga type hacks...
WM6 is fast
Battery problem still here
The Battery problem is still here. You can see only 10, 20, 30, 40 % .... but never 94 %
Hey check it out man
this rom rocks
it has vga resolution for text
and qvga resolution for icons
heres the link
http://rapidshare.com/files/75370255/RUU_Athena_TMO_UK_2.35.110.4_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
enjoy
How about posting some screens for various applications?
right away sir
Thanks for posting the screens.
I guess it's a personal thing, but I prefer to view the device in 128dpi, with wktask, with a 3D glassy top and bottom bar, with both date and time on the taskbar of every screen, just to list some of the main things I would tailor.
Hey, whatever appeal to you, enjoy your device
U can always customize the view and 128dpi can be installed
i'm confused with your screenshots.
are simply qvga, non?
nittin_sp said:
Hey check it out man
this rom rocks
it has vga resolution for text
and qvga resolution for icons
heres the link
http://rapidshare.com/files/75370255/RUU_Athena_TMO_UK_2.35.110.4_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
enjoy
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maybe means vga screen res but qvga is being displayed but that is a given.?
hmm tmobile did a nice edit there. still hate the pink though
Pawel062 said:
hmm tmobile did a nice edit there. still hate the pink though
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I love changing the color of my theme every now and then. One of the quickest ways of to use tweaks2k2. It gives you the 3d glassy look. Depending on my mood, I like to switch between blue, green, black, etc. Be very careful though when you use tweak2k2. Don't let it trigger any soft reset(always use stylus into the hole method) or else you may be stuck on primary splash and you'll be forced to hard reset.
thanx for the info and warning. i do too. currently running 192dpi, snapvue, and snavue tsk on my rom. will probably go back to setup u see in dual screenies when i get realvga cooked back into rom im currently running.
Does this rom contain the latest Opera? That's the only reason I see to upgrade to this. Font size looks like it does when you change the screen settings to a smaller font on the 'screen' menu. I assume you can change the pink theme with the windows standard.
some clarrification
the opera version is build 8.65(2627)
the rom is overall very fast
the text resolution is vga like and we can get rid of the cuteiii pink colour.
the ap3 dual rom is superior in many aspects but this rom is good for all those who want a clean rom without any addons.
hey powell can u please post a lite addition of your touch dual rom it would be great
perhaps I also forgot to mention that this rom solves the micro drive issue in ameo.
Powell can u please give add ons seperately.
Leoni,
Why not try out this Opera and see if you like it better?
eaglesteve said:
Leoni,
Why not try out this Opera and see if you like it better?
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Ok, ive begun testing this ROM Eaglesteve and here are my observations thus far:
Opera is identical to the others, although a nice resolution mod has been done with the url bar, making it smaller and neater than the versions seen in other ROMS. there is no immediate reference to 'opera' within the application in that it is referred to as 'web n walk' in the start menu, and the homepage is www.t-mobilefavourites.co.uk. for those wishing to use t-mobile's tv service this functionality is now restored for wm6.
on the whole i feel that the download and render time with this version of Opera is the slowest i've seen. there is no flash support and this is NOT the latest Opera build (or anywhere near). this indicates that HTC have a limited deal with Opera which does not include the more recent version - no free upgrade then.
I found both browsers to be unusually slow, even after various tweaks.
T-mobile have removed Windows Live from this ROM.
They have included (the completely pointless) F-Secure Antivirus, which annoyingly pops up an installation window upon every soft reset.
The 'H'SDPA icon is not enables by default for some unknown reason. this is surely a step backwards from the old T-Mobile ROM.
t-mobile sounds are preset by default. they are horrendous.
some of the 'band' settings have been removed in line with what's available in western europe.
dialpad is a modified pink|grey, as is the comms screen.
there is a t-mobile home plugin similar to htc's, but with 'web n walk' last dialled, file explorer and SIM manager.
this ROM seems more sluggish than touch dual overall, and is missing a great deal of decent features that id gotten used to with Touch.
will try a hard reset with no installed t-mobile CABs and report back
Thanks for the quick feedback.
You mentioned that the address bar is smaller. This is interesting. Could you post a screen shot on that?
eaglesteve said:
Thanks for the quick feedback.
You mentioned that the address bar is smaller. This is interesting. Could you post a screen shot on that?
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sorry eaglesteve i dont have the screenshot utility that comes with touch, otherwise id send you a screenshot.
update though: this ROM is an absolute dog. it's slooooow, web pages dont load up very fast and for the first time in ages im getting the "this page cannot be found" dialogue in p.i.e. on random occasions. ive also had opera randomly shut down on me twice.
can someone else try this ROM and tell me im not mistaken? the only apps ive installed are wktask, fingertouch and htc home
so far i can't believe t-mobile have unleashed a pile of crap like this on the public. its bad enough that they make their handsets look so rubbish.
one last set of points to t-mobile:
we DONT need antivirus. really.
we DONT need to be asked if we're sure we want to go online/sure we want to close the browser.
we dont like pink today screens and phones with pink bits on them
we DO want you to employ Pawel and the team to develop decent ROMs in future.
Is this ROM the standard WM6 ROM provided by T Mobile to work on the Ameo? The quality is very different from those provided by Dopod.
Just switched back to the Touch Dual ROM.
I encourage anyone Interested in it to avoid this ROM at all costs except for warranty purposes. Glitchy, slow, overbranded, RUBBISH.
YUK.
leoni1980 said:
Just switched back to the Touch Dual ROM.
I encourage anyone Interested in it to avoid this ROM at all costs except for warranty purposes. Glitchy, slow, overbranded, RUBBISH.
YUK.
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lol nice.
to the poster asking about vanilla: i could remove everything except pk programs 3.0(task manager+regedit and screenshot app) and leave in tsk, welcomhead, and all the reg edits i have done BUT the available space on the device with or without dual will remain the same.
its not worth it.
use file explorer and go into windows/start menu/programs and removed whatever u dont use. it will clean up the program's folder and u can go ahead and do same with system folder.
it will look clean that way and if u decide u want to use a app that i cooked in you just add shorcut back in. also for battery/qwerty menu just go ahead and remove the shortcuts for those from windows/startup and those are gone.
switch to a different tsk like says windows mobile default and u look vanilla. for say the control panel apps just ignore or remove from windows folder.
Ur rom looks vanilla and it will have same space as a vanilla rom. also u can go ahead after the black tsk is displayed and soft reset device to not install extended rom stuff and reduce apps installed.
@leoni
T Mobile has put its customisations, so if u check opera, the proxy is enabled.
If u remove the proxy all work well.
Results are better, when one flashes only OS.nb converted to NBH and use, so u do not have any T Mobile Crap installed
Hello!
I've just bought my first pda (so I am new on that), a secondhand 02 Atom life in ebay, and I want to upgrade the rom.
Can someone tell me if there is any diference between these two officials roms: http://www.mwg.com/atom-life_wm6.aspx and http://www.myxda.com/xda-atom-life_wm6.aspx. Apparently, they seem the same...
If there are any differences, could you tell me the pros and cons? Are there any utilities/applications differences? Stability? Batteries issues?
Furthermore I want a fingertouchfriendly interface (don't like stylus). I am thinking about manila 2D, spb shell 2, wisdbar advance 3 or iphonzlike themes. I don't care too much about beautiful design or cool animations, more about something usefull and thrifty from the battery, ram, ressources consumption or compatibility point of vue.
What would you recommend me?
Actually are wisdwar advance or themes like iphonz slowing down pda performance or consuming extra ram?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!!
I would recommend you use the following ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448074
and install M2D from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2761662&postcount=3885
(Don't bother with the additional files, they don't work on Atom Life)
The ROM is fast and reliable and is the setup I have passed on to my daughter now she is using my Atom Life. It has finger friendly touchflo (you need to enable it in Settings) and is very finger and user friendly.
Skins for M2D can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451702
( I always preferred the MBarvian Diamond Skin from the top row of post 6. Perhaps that's why I have a Diamond now.
The MWG and O2 ROMS are stable but they're also full of rubbish that no one ever uses and hog memory.
I would also recommend the EZinput Keyboard suite from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281&highlight=ezinput
Don't forget that with this you need to install not only the keyboard suite but the right language pack for you. These are found in post 4
I hope this helps
Thanks Blibble!!! I'm going to try your setup. It looks just fine for me!
Hello!
I got the set up you propose and I experienced that battery runs faster than in o2 wm 6 rom, do you experience same thing? Could it be because of the rom or m2d? Are skins making slower performance or consuming battery? In that case I will stay with m2d with no skin... That's fine for me.
Furthermore, I can't watch youtube videos (I downloaded alldevices 19b M2D), do I need an especial application to watch flash multimedia?
Can actually someone recommend a free multimedia player to watch avi, flash and others formats?
I would apreciate a taskmanager to really close programs and not let them in Ram and making me go to standard taskmanager every 5 minutes to close them. Can someone recommend a good one? I thought M2D had one....
I don't find the settings window usefull, is there anyway to configure it and add/remove my preferred settings tools instead of the useless ones that appear?
Finally, is Sktools an usefull tool?
THANKS TO ALL IN ADVANCE!!!!
I have open ears for evey recommendation to optimize my device!!!
I forgort it... This rom has deleted outlook mobile and java support? I don't find them...
Hello all!
I try this rom with SPB Shell and Pocket Plus (wonderful taskmanager, file exploring and internet browser options) with animation disabled and it runs much better and I find it more functional, useful and customizable and no bugs, no issues... I didn't have time to compare battery life yet... But with manila it was 21-22 free ram and with SPB it is 23-24 free ram... I am also going to try sktools and sk shorcut manager for full performance and customization.
For multimedia player I am trying dvix player, core player and TCPMP...
I still don't know if I can run jad or jar aplications... I try a few and I think I can't...
Hope this information will be useful! For now I am very happy with this device and I order a 3200 mAh ultra capacity battery from worcell with sony japanese cells and just 4 mm thicker.
Can charmer using WM 6.5.5, and what the difference with wm 6.5.1?
for us the difference are:
Start button is on the bottom and the button is larger
There is a status pannel on the Today screen when tapping on the top of the screen
But I think that 6.5.1 is better (in some programs on 6.5.3 there are no buttons - tested on pocketrar; and some programs have smaller square and it is a Today background on the half of the screen)
And the last time I use WM6.1 because all programs work faster even if the amount of free RAM on 6.5 is grater
Oh, I will be happy if U understood me, my English is not so good as I've imagined...
Yes we can run 6.5.5 and I tried to port it some time ago.
But I wasn't able to find any really stable builds, so I keept using Build 28004, which is best till now for me.
Hi, got an HD2, tmobile unlocked, the setting tab is missing the sound and display, wallpaper, etc., the only way to get to them is through winmo (menu-all settings), so i was wondering if there is any way i can get them back to use them with sense. thank you.
winmo 6.5
manila 2.5.2012
os version 5.2.21982
rom version 2.13.531.1 (90963) wwe
do you mean that the settings tab starts at 'security, application, sd card & phone ,,,,, blahblah?'
Because if so, put your finger anywhere on the screen, and ,,,,,
(wait for it)
,,,,,,,
drag the list in a smooth downwards motion,,,,,
for some reason the settings tab on some roms seems to default to displaying the bottom half of the list, many people have been caught out by this,.
HAHAHAHA Thank you so much, i feel stooopid, hahahaha.
hehe, ya not the first, nor will you be the last.