Extended ROM Uses? - G4

Hi, I've just got into this flashing lark. Now using the latest TNT ROM. Using WST 4.2.2 I can unlock and see the ext_rom is it worthwhile doing something with this space, formatting it? and then what?????
Thanks in advance, this is gr8 fun and far too addictive

N8M8 said:
Hi, I've just got into this flashing lark. Now using the latest TNT ROM. Using WST 4.2.2 I can unlock and see the ext_rom is it worthwhile doing something with this space, formatting it? and then what?????
Thanks in advance, this is gr8 fun and far too addictive
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Although you can see it you can't use the WM OS to edit it because it will mess the FAT (File Allocation Table) and mess up all the files inside (like files with 4GB!)
What you can do is create an image of it with programs like Winimage (Extract one extrom with WST and edit it) with files you know you'll use but won't need to change and flash back to phone.
All in all it's 'only' 10MB of space

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O2 UK 1.72 XDA II ROM Upgrades uploaded here.

I have uploaded the new O2 UK 1.72 ROM Upgrades for the XDA II. I have zipped the EXE files up so that more people are able to download them . The file comments are taken from the respective PDF files.
First back up your device, as the upgrade will erase all data from main memory.
To use, unzip to a folder on your PC, then either run the EXE or, if you have Country ID errors and/or wish to change operator or language IDs, extract the EXE to a folder and follow the steps in my post here.
The passwords to use are 0x20040304, 0x20040305 and 0x20040306 for the NK.nbf, ms_.nbf and Radio_.nbf files respectively.
Extracting the file from the zip I get only an executable file. How do I extract from this executable file the following:
HimaClearJumpCode.exe
HimaGetDeviceData.exe
HimaUpgradeUt.exe
ms_.nbf
NK.nbf
Radio_.nbf
?
Thanks and regards
Use Winzip or Winrar to extract the files from the EXE.
and you can get the extended rom for blackberry here Xda_II_172181
along with the extra apps which include fax,zip and voice
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12526
O2 UK 1.72 XDA II ROM Upgrades
you're a star dcs.
Thank you
ian
Can't edit the extended rom using er2003edit
Can't edit the extended rom using er2003edit. I used the password from DCS's previous posts "0x20040305", but I got the error "Error accessing image files!". Any ideas, how to tackle this?
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serkan said:
Can't edit the extended rom using er2003edit. I used the password from DCS's previous posts "0x20040305", but I got the error "Error accessing image files!". Any ideas, how to tackle this?
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That is the correct password. Make sure you are not using the auto-detect option in the file open dialog. Select the file type explicitly.
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dcs said:
serkan said:
Can't edit the extended rom using er2003edit. I used the password from DCS's previous posts "0x20040305", but I got the error "Error accessing image files!". Any ideas, how to tackle this?
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That is the correct password. Make sure you are not using the auto-detect option in the file open dialog. Select the file type explicitly.
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You are great, it works now, I'll test this on my i-mate..
thanks...
thank you
i extracted the extended rom with er2003edit. which cab file contains the blackberry software?
Possibly a silly question but... if i backup with sprite backup and then upgrade to the new ROM, can i still restore my backup without screwing anything up? Or do i need to reinstall all my software?
DCS: Thanks for making the download more convenient... You rock!!!
to be on the safe side i'd reinstall. i've just finally finished doing that, and have just created a sprite backup!
dangel said:
Possibly a silly question but... if i backup with sprite backup and then upgrade to the new ROM, can i still restore my backup without screwing anything up? Or do i need to reinstall all my software?
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I don't know about Sprite, but I have restored a backup using Activesync onto an upgraded device without any problems.
ZeroXtreme said:
DCS: Thanks for making the download more convenient... You rock!!!
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My pleasure
dcs said:
dangel said:
Possibly a silly question but... if i backup with sprite backup and then upgrade to the new ROM, can i still restore my backup without screwing anything up? Or do i need to reinstall all my software?
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I don't know about Sprite, but I have restored a backup using Activesync onto an upgraded device without any problems.
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Ok, cool but did you reinstall your apps or did they all just work as before? E.g. tomtom etc ? Just wondering, sorry for the hassle
updated http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Himalaya Rom 1.72 comparison
dangel said:
Ok, cool but did you reinstall your apps or did they all just work as before? E.g. tomtom etc ? Just wondering, sorry for the hassle
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From what I can remember, everything worked OK. Just a few settings didn't restore, like button lock for instance.
M4io said:
updated http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Himalaya Rom 1.72 comparison
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Nice Quick work M4io
dcs said:
I have uploaded the new O2 UK 1.72 ROM Upgrades for the XDA II.
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Is this an official ROM? The O2 Website is still posting the v1.60.50 ROM as the latest official ROM. Where did u get this one from?
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Warning WM5 1.60a and Extended _rom

Just a little info -I discovered at the weekend. I have been playing with the wm5 1.60a for a while and in orfder to save space in the storage i have installed a lot of programs on the extended_rom partition. I renamed this via the registry. Don't do this !as it really screws things up. You end up with two extended rom plabels in explorer and you can not rename them back. I have had to reinstall wm5 1.60a
I dont see any problem installing program in Extended ROM. All you have to make sure is you have to rename the Extended ROM BEFORE you install anything.
If you rename it AFTER then surely you are going to be screwed. Because the program installed in the extended ROM is registered in the registry as whatever name the extended ROM when the program are installed.
Can you please be more specific with your problem. If not I think your post is "misleading".
True
In summary you are correct. I should have renamed Extended_rom before installing programs to it.
However when you reset the machine the operating system creates a new folder called extended rom and puts the renamed extended rom data and programs in it.
The original renamed folder with the memory chip icon is also present in the directory view so the data appears twice.
odd to say the least
I dont have the problem that you described.
When I install WM5 v 1.60a. I immediately rename it to "STORAGE" then install program in it. I have been using version 1.60 for more than a week now and I have countless Soft Reset even Hard Reset(Persistent memory right?) and no double folder and anything.
Just follow my advice and rename it at the beginning. I am sure you wont have the problem.
Hi,
This has most likely been covered but can someone tell me how do I rename storage areas. I have WM2005 1.60a Rom Thanks to Buzz.... and I as defalt run out of storage memory really quick and my program memory is massive, I am really sorry if this has been cover so even if you could point me to where it is discussed.
Thanks Heaps.
where can i download wm 2005
where can i get the latest wm 2005 rom?
found a link but the files is corrupted?
can anyone of you help me to have this latest rom.
seal said:
Hi,
This has most likely been covered but can someone tell me how do I rename storage areas. I have WM2005 1.60a Rom Thanks to Buzz.... and I as defalt run out of storage memory really quick and my program memory is massive, I am really sorry if this has been cover so even if you could point me to where it is discussed.
hi Schen i try to rename the ext_ROM but it say can not rename it tell me what should i do pls
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Re: where can i download wm 2005
arquizon said:
where can i get the latest wm 2005 rom?
found a link but the files is corrupted?
can anyone of you help me to have this latest rom.
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U can get it at buzzdev.net
Goodluck....n rgds
Leslie Lee
I tried download 1.6a at buzzdev.net but is" index" only ,can u help
HI, SCHEN
Can u help me how to change the ext_rom to storage step by step?
I am new user , I don't even know where can i find the ext_rom to rename and someone told that i can't rename the ext_rom.
ymchow said:
Leslie Lee
I tried download 1.6a at buzzdev.net but is" index" only ,can u help
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u go to site http://buzzdev.net
U need to register. registration is free.
u can then download.
there r 5 versions of wm2k5 for himalayas there
regards n best wishes
Thank! Leslie Lee I had download successfully

How to get different extended rom?

So is there a way I can do this on my G4 8125? I've been trying, but have not been successful.
Extended ROM basically consists of large number of CAB files. Go to the ftp and get hold of some of the ROM packages in ZIP format and unzip the EXT rom. Unlock your EXT ROM and replace everthing with the one you've downloaded. Done.
Personally, I don't use Ext Rom. Upon hard reset, I just skip the Ext Rom installation and I install my stuff manually, which I think gives more flexibility. I had my phone backup-ed into an EXE file which I can use when I hardreset next time.
I don't know how to unlock it, and I can't even stop my Cingular one from installing every time.
To stop it from installing, upon hardreset, softreset your phone just after the security option (eg when it asked you to set your PIN for the phone). It should skip installing the EXT ROM.
I'm not sure if it is read only or not, but you can try. Download and open Total Commander (for PPC), at the top section of TC, enter this
Code:
\Extended_ROM
It will show you stuff in your Ext Rom. See if you can overwrite it.
If the extended_rom is protected like in G3 >2.xx SPLs then you have no luck there. Even if you change something and it looks like it worked you'll get bad checksums on next soft-reset and all data in extended-rom will be deleted
mestrini said:
If the extended_rom is protected like in G3 >2.xx SPLs then you have no luck there. Even if you change something and it looks like it worked you'll get bad checksums on next soft-reset and all data in extended-rom will be deleted
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exactly what happened to me.
after it had bad checksums, strange characters and folders, i formatted the extemded rom using wizard service tool ver 4.2.1
now my extended rom is empty... but i have a copy of it on the PDA in a different folder and on my PC.
Is there a way to restore it?
royorlev said:
exactly what happened to me.
after it had bad checksums, strange characters and folders, i formatted the extemded rom using wizard service tool ver 4.2.1
now my extended rom is empty... but i have a copy of it on the PDA in a different folder and on my PC.
Is there a way to restore it?
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Absolutely. Simply use WST and select the "Write ROM" option. Then select "Extended ROM" and upload the backup from your PC.
Hi All,
Is there any way to build own ExtROM?
Thanks

HOW to get extended rom in DCD 2.3.1

1. you will need No2chem's basekit 5048.
2. you need DCD's kitchen 2.3.1
Then the fun part....
Go into No2Chem's OEM/OEMDrivers directory and copy the OEM_FLASHDRV.DLL folder.
Paste it into DCDs kitchen OEM/OEMDrivers directory.
Then go to DCDs ROM/XIP directory and edit the boot.rgu file.
Add these lines to the bottom of the boot.rgu file.
*******************************************************************
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"DefaultFileSystem"="FATFS"
"Name"=""
"PartitionDriver"=""
"MountHidden"=dword:0
"Folder"="Extended_ROM"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\EXT_FLASHDRV\FATFS]
"FormatTFAT"=dword:1
"EnableWriteBack"=dword:1
"EnableCache"=dword:0
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"DriverPath"="Drivers\\BuiltIn\\EXT_FLASHDRV"
"LoadFlags"=dword:1
"Order"=dword:12
"Bootphase"=dword:2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\EXT_FLASHDRV]
"Profile"="EXT_FLASHDRV"
"Index"= dword:1
"Dll"="OEM_FLASHDRV.dll"
"Prefix"="DSK"
"Order"=dword:13
"IClass"=multi_sz:"{A4E7EDDA-E575-4252-9D6B-4195D48BB865}"
*******************************************************************
Then get the no2chem_nueExtROM package and put it into the DCD OEM directory.
BUILD - BURN - ENJOY!!!
P.S. Thanks No2chem and DCD for the awesome work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.P.S. There might be an easier way but this worked for me.
Extended Frustration
Is there a purpose for having the Extended Rom? With older devices you were able to unlock the extended rom and use it like an internal memory card but afaik there is no way to unlock the extended rom, right?
gimpdog said:
Is there a purpose for having the Extended Rom? With older devices you were able to unlock the extended rom and use it like an internal memory card but afaik there is no way to unlock the extended rom, right?
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With No2Chems nueEXTROM you can unlock and write to the Titan extended ROM. Just like the 6700.
http://www.weienterprises.com/nue/
How much space is in the ExtRom?
Slightly less than 10MB
thanks dude...i've been working on a custom rom for myself and no i can include this....whooottttttt
so is this like another 10mb to put things onto, or 10mb for programs to use?
Is the extrom cleared with a hard reset? If not, it could be cool to store CABs in there to reinstall your programs after flashing. Isn't this what happens when the Sprint customization runs?
Shiva1 said:
Is the extrom cleared with a hard reset? If not, it could be cool to store CABs in there to reinstall your programs after flashing. Isn't this what happens when the Sprint customization runs?
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its like having a 10mb sd card inyour phone, it doesnt get cleared unless you run a stock rom ruu or delete files from it. nice to have in case you have to hard reset out on the road, you can get all your cabs installed without an sd card
The EXTRom is copied from ROM during a hard reset. So anything you put in there will get erased and copied over from the ROM. There should be a way to create a .nb for the ExtROM and flash your device with it to pre-populate the cab's you want in there tho.
jrebeiro said:
The EXTRom is copied from ROM during a hard reset. So anything you put in there will get erased and copied over from the ROM. There should be a way to create a .nb for the ExtROM and flash your device with it to pre-populate the cab's you want in there tho.
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hmm. thats not how it worked on the apache. a hard reset just touches the os rom, not the extended rom. otherwise it would erase the carrier info and programs on a hard reset... that would defeat the purpose of it.
hello, I followed the guide exactly and was successfully able to unlock the extrom and erase /write to it, but i now have Extrom and Extrom2 in the file explorer. they are both the same 9mb memory allocation ( i wrote files to both,, different files, and soft reset. Both drives ended up showing the 2nd file i wrote to whichever extrom, so they are the same drive. anyone have any ideas how to correct this?
fallingup said:
hmm. thats not how it worked on the apache. a hard reset just touches the os rom, not the extended rom. otherwise it would erase the carrier info and programs on a hard reset... that would defeat the purpose of it.
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Ummm... no it restores the OS and Extended Partitions. Your carrier info is not located in the Ext ROM it's located in .provxml files in the OS. Customization programs are located in Ext ROM and during a hard reset are restored.
You also basically just retyped what I explained in my post. The Carrier provided files in the Ext ROM are restored during a hard reset. But anything you have put in there by unlocking the Ext ROM and making it read/write will be gone after a hard reset.
Feel free to try it yourself.
fallingup said:
its like having a 10mb sd card inyour phone, it doesnt get cleared unless you run a stock rom ruu or delete files from it. nice to have in case you have to hard reset out on the road, you can get all your cabs installed without an sd card
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After reading some of these posts I wanted to clear a few things up but then I noticed Fallingup had it exactly correct!!!!
Only two ways to wipe your extended rom...
1. unlock it and erase it yourself OR
2. Install a custom .nbh file specifically designed to over right the extended rom.
If you uncompress an OEM rom.exe file you will probably find thee .nbh files.
1. is for the rom itself (like what DCD and No2chem put together)
2. is the Radio!
3. Contents of the extended rom.
Since we our content directly to the rom through OEM packages it is unnecessary to have cabs there for a custom rom install. Therefore, no one wastes there time building custom .nbh files to write to the extended rom. ALSO, if you have it unlocked, when you build your custom OEM packages, you can specifically target the extended rom just like you target the windows directory. NOTE: this last bit is for completeness all that is really needed is an emphatic statement... The Extended rom DOES survive a hard reset AND it survives a CUSTOM rom install as well. (unless you build a custom .nbh file to write to it)
atomclock said:
After reading some of these posts I wanted to clear a few things up but then I noticed Fallingup had it exactly correct!!!!
Only two ways to wipe your extended rom...
1. unlock it and erase it yourself OR
2. Install a custom .nbh file specifically designed to over right the extended rom.
If you uncompress an OEM rom.exe file you will probably find thee .nbh files.
1. is for the rom itself (like what DCD and No2chem put together)
2. is the Radio!
3. Contents of the extended rom.
Since we our content directly to the rom through OEM packages it is unnecessary to have cabs there for a custom rom install. Therefore, no one wastes there time building custom .nbh files to write to the extended rom. ALSO, if you have it unlocked, when you build your custom OEM packages, you can specifically target the extended rom just like you target the windows directory. NOTE: this last bit is for completeness all that is really needed is an emphatic statement... The Extended rom DOES survive a hard reset AND it survives a CUSTOM rom install as well. (unless you build a custom .nbh file to write to it)
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theres actually a third way, which is when the xip specifies to format the extended_rom partition, which would cause your extended rom to be empty on boot, even if you wrote to it during a flash.
also, you don't need to download the entire basekit, i posted the necessary files to insert to oem on my website. also, stroths has developed a cab so you don't have to install it to rom.
jarmenti said:
hello, I followed the guide exactly and was successfully able to unlock the extrom and erase /write to it, but i now have Extrom and Extrom2 in the file explorer. they are both the same 9mb memory allocation ( i wrote files to both,, different files, and soft reset. Both drives ended up showing the 2nd file i wrote to whichever extrom, so they are the same drive. anyone have any ideas how to correct this?
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I am getting the same results here. Something is duplicating.
no2chem said:
theres actually a third way, which is when the xip specifies to format the extended_rom partition, which would cause your extended rom to be empty on boot, even if you wrote to it during a flash.
also, you don't need to download the entire basekit, i posted the necessary files to insert to oem on my website. also, stroths has developed a cab so you don't have to install it to rom.
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Do we still need to modify the file in XIP. Because I tried your files (not from basekit) and I added the code from 1st post. I ended up with 2 ExtRoms. both duplicates.
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Ultra Clean Prophet ROM (WM6.1) (Updated!)

This ROM has had everything I can remove without causing instabilities removed.
There is no ExtROM with this, but one can be added very easily.
With the addition of an extROM, UC can be used (SDAutoRun is in the windows directory)
This is intended for ROM cooks, and so I won't attach any upgrade utilities. It is an OS.nb rather than an nk.nbf for the purposes of saving space.
Some packages can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371497
This uses SDautorun V2 so is suitable for multi-language use.
I will upload a version suitable for flashing in the near future.
Based on multiple ROMs including official Kaiser, Touch and WM5 Prophet ROMs. This is a WM6.1 ROM.
Contains Mail, Contacts, Calendar, internet explorer and phone functionality.
Internet Explorer and help files have been removed in the new version!
http://rapidshare.com/files/102087207/newos.zip.html
v2
http://cid-cddbf77985693632.skydrive.live.com/embedrowdetail.aspx/XDA%20files/ROMs/Clean
Reserved for updates.
thx my friend
i think i will use it to start cooking a room =)
Thanks a lot
exactly what i am looking for ,
I will download it as soon as possible
thanks,thanks,thanks,.........
I have been waiting for this !
Can you inform us about free storage space after fresh flash? And how is the speed?
Thanks
Hi, how to flash is rom image OS.nb using which flashing tools? cos the new method is flashing the rom image nk.nbh.
can i use the new method of flashing?
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Thank a lot
there is about 55mb storage and 30mb program memory, but I've just realised I left the help files in! there is also the extROM with nothing in it, so in total 65mb free. I shall change the registry so it is unhidden/unlocked when I upload the update. I will also remove some other programs.
The new WM6 upgrade guide shows how to convert the *.nb into a *.nbh for flashing.
I shall upload an update when I can.
is downloading it, thanks, mate.
l3v5y said:
This ROM has had everything I can remove without causing instabilities removed.
There is no ExtROM with this, but one can be added very easily.
With the addition of an extROM, UC can be used (SDAutoRun is in the windows directory)
This is intended for ROM cooks, and so I won't attach any upgrade utilities. It is an OS.nb rather than an nk.nbf for the purposes of saving space.
Some packages can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371497
This uses SDautorun V2 so is suitable for multi-language use.
I will upload a version suitable for flashing in the near future.
Based on multiple ROMs including official Kaiser, Touch and WM5 Prophet ROMs. This is a WM6.1 ROM.
Contains Mail, Contacts, Calendar, internet explorer and phone functionality.
Link http://rapidshare.com/files/102087207/newos.zip.html
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Hi, I have downloaded the file, it is a newos.nb. i wonder how i can flash my ROM as it is a .nb file rather than a . nbf? ?
mantis123 said:
Hi, I have downloaded the file, it is a newos.nb. i wonder how i can flash my ROM as it is a .nb file rather than a . nbf? ?
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See post #8.
Help me please. Who have internet sharing in cab file?
l3v5y said:
there is about 55mb storage and 30mb program memory, but I've just realised I left the help files in! there is also the extROM with nothing in it, so in total 65mb free. I shall change the registry so it is unhidden/unlocked when I upload the update. I will also remove some other programs.
The new WM6 upgrade guide shows how to convert the *.nb into a *.nbh for flashing.
I shall upload an update when I can.
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May we know when the updated one comes??
I'll finish it when I am at home and have some free time. I have a few deadlines coming up so might not be till the weekend.
I'm uploading a new version to my skydrive account... It consists of two seperate parts, OS.nb and ExtROM.nb. These will need to be combined for flashing (see the "new wm6 upgrade guide")
When uploaded it will be available here: [FONT=&quot]http://cid-cddbf77985693632.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/XDA%20files/ROMs/Clean[/FONT]
If someone wants to mirror it please do, I don't have the time to now.
thanks very good
hi l3v5y,
on this v2 the problem of ring is ok, because on the first one i can't change the ring tone
I removed most of the default ringtones for space. If you put one into the \My Documents\Ringtones directory I think it should work.
I normally have my prophet set to vibrate so I wouldn't have noticed this :S.
i will try and tell you for the V2
Tkanks very much!

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