I have inherited a Wizard. Cingular 8125.
Here is my info:
IPL 2.25.0001
SPI same as above
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I have an unlocked SIM. Would like to improve on what I have. Maybe that means Windows 6, maybe it doesn't.
I've been reading and reading and reading. I figured I would ask for a little advice.
Anyone used to have this G4 and can recommend a good starting rom to flash for me to get used to the process?
TNT?
The TNT ROMs are the best imho, but the choice is yours really...find a ROM that suits your needs(IE, what kinda programs it has included etdc), make sure that it is G4 safe, follow the stickies(or my guide:]), and then flash away!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2380300&postcount=2
Getting a lot of mileage on that one post...
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i understood from this forum that it's very dangerous to try running a g3 rom on g4...but do you mean that wm6,made for g3 is different from g4???cause i tried to upgrade to wm6 crossbow and it didn't work,i don't know how it happened,but i am still with wm05...so,what rom do you mean is dangerous for g4-radio or windows???is there wm6 for g4?
thank you guys, in advance!
Please look at other thread before asking... especially this one
G4 devices are known to have two things in common :
- IPL/SPL are untouchable and with version number ending with .0001 (or so)
- they are CID locked (wish would only allow HTC to flash roms)
G3 Rom comes with IPL and SPL in. So if you try to flash it onto a G4 device, you may brick it by altering the original IPL/SPL. This is known to be hard to do, btw... don't do it. Also, in case of failed flashing, the IPL/SPL are the only things that could save you.
So you should try flashing G4 rom only.
Unfortunately, the CID lock makes it hard to flash any rom you'd like. Only a couple of ROMs are flashable on G4+CID devices.
thank you!
hy
i have a WIZA-200 G4 adn for the past to days i have downloaded like all these versions of ROM from here and still each ROM utility says that i need to get a newer version?????????????
i just wanna download WM6 on my wizard is that too much to ask??
my spl 2.26.0001 and the RUU shows version 1.2.0.0 and somethign OS vERsion 2.26.10.2
kindly someone tell me where ic an download WM 6 to my phone
thanksss
my sys info says
ROM 2.26.10.2 WWE
rom date 6/7/06
radio 2.25.11
protocol 4.1.13.12
ext rom 2.26.10.105
mony114 said:
hy
i have a WIZA-200 G4 adn for the past to days i have downloaded like all these versions of ROM from here and still each ROM utility says that i need to get a newer version?????????????
i just wanna download WM6 on my wizard is that too much to ask??
my spl 2.26.0001 and the RUU shows version 1.2.0.0 and somethign OS vERsion 2.26.10.2
kindly someone tell me where ic an download WM 6 to my phone
thanksss
my sys info says
ROM 2.26.10.2 WWE
rom date 6/7/06
radio 2.25.11
protocol 4.1.13.12
ext rom 2.26.10.105
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Ok here I come to save the day... The reason you are getting that error message is because you have a locked G4. From what you have said already, It sounds like you have T-Mobile and unfortunately, due to DOC right protection on all of our devices, you need to perform some kind of unlock on your device or work around it. I believe that G4 CID unlocking has been almost perfected but I can tell you 2 other ways to flash your device.
On the grander scale, here are all 3 known ways to flash your G4 device.
First and formost, shelltools is a very common and most heavily used way to flash a G4 device. It extracts the OS from the Rom and then flashes it to your device and afterwards, you need to hard reset your device and what do you know, you have WM6.
The second way to flash a Rom to a G4 device is to use SoftSPL. SoftSPL temporarily patches the CID on your device to think it is CID unlocked and allows you to flash a new Rom to the device as if it were in fact permanently unlocked but this is only a one time go. Each time you want to change Roms, you have to flash back to your carriers official Rom and then run SoftSPL again with the new Rom of your choice.
Third and finally, I mentioned above that they have managed to permanently CID unlock G4 devices but I am not sure if they managed to perfect it yet. I also have not tried this method before because I had to have a handset exchange and ended up with a G3.
Don't take this personally, but you really need to do alot of reading before you dive into the world of Rom flashers because from the sounds of what you wrote above, you don't know enough about flashing Roms yet and that makes it really hard. Trust me, I was in your shoes before.
Just hang out in the G4 forum for a while and read as much as you can and when you feel comfortable with what you are about to do, then give it a try. I really don't want to see you screw up your phone and brick it, but I do want to see you succeed in the Rom flashing world so for your own sake, read up. Here are just a few threads that you really should check out before trying to so something you're not sure about.
[solution] G4 SoftSPL Flash any ROM to CID locked G4 [UPDATED]
Solutuion found: how to flash any rom to CIDLOCKED DEVICE
Hard-SPL - or how to CID unlock your device
[Solution] G4 Hard SPL (CID unlock)
I really hope this was helpful. It should be all you need.
Dan.
hey thanxxxx i got it working used the mun tutorial on doing it had my fingers crossed all the way it took mine around 40 minutes and stil it woulndt say that its done so like after 45 minutes i just yanked the cable from my wizard and it at once said DONe hehe loving my new wm6 using 1437 tnt and its faster than my wm5 strangely i was expecting it to be a little slow hehe
thanx for your help dude really appreciate it
mony114 said:
hey thanxxxx i got it working used the mun tutorial on doing it had my fingers crossed all the way it took mine around 40 minutes and stil it woulndt say that its done so like after 45 minutes i just yanked the cable from my wizard and it at once said DONe hehe loving my new wm6 using 1437 tnt and its faster than my wm5 strangely i was expecting it to be a little slow hehe
thanx for your help dude really appreciate it
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No problem... It was my pleasure. You should give 1921 a try. It's its rights newest version and is supposed to be much better. I read the whole thread and one major fix is battery life. A must for a Wizard user.
Dan.
I just bought a used 8125. The device was suppose to be standard, but when it arrived it had WM 6.1 custom rom from newbie1221. I also noticed that it is a G4.
IPL 2.1.0001
SPL 2.1.01ip
So is it safe to assume the device is CID unlocked?
Is it safe to flash This Romas it doesn't include ipl/spl?
How will the UK radio work since I'm in the US? My current Radio version is 2.25.11
How can I tell if it's wwe?
It says it's WM 6.1 but I'm confused by this
5.2.19199 build 19199.1.0.0 (AKU 1.0 )
OS: 11.0.1.0 << as you know, 11.x.x.x is for TNT Series or based on
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Does this mean it's not 6.1?
Please be patient with me it's been a while since I've had WM device. The wiki helped me a lot.
Heya man, welcome to the fold....you can tell if your device has WM6.1 on it by going to START->Settings->System->About, and at the top is will say OS:Windows Mobile 5.0/6/6.1, depending on what you have. Since your IPL/SPL is already Olip'ed, then yes, your device IS indeed CID unlocked....but if you havent done so already, I would download the excellent Wizard Tool availible up here at XDA-Dev and SIM unlock your device aswell. To answer your other question, you should be fine with flashing a different rom, as long as it DOES NOT contain an Extended ROM partition OR IPL/SPL.
No, G4 is always CID locked, regardless you used HardSPL or not (HardSPL only tricks the RUU program, you can always check the CID lock status using WST)
Yes, it's safe to flash any ROMs that doesn't include IPL and SPL.
For the Radio, all Radio ROMs has support for all GSM modes supported by Wizard hardware, just try to see if it gives a better reception.
TNT roms are always WWE (you can see the screenshots, it is always WWE if it is an English ROM)
5.2.19xxx is WM6.1 ROM. TNT used its own versioning in ROM, so don't count on that.
So all that HardSPL'ing a device does is trick the RUU? Didnt know that, I thought that it actually "unlocked" the phone, like we do over in the excalibur forums lol
starkwong is absolutely correct and I endorse it!
Thanks for all the help. I downloaded WST it shows it was Sim unlocked but I have no way of testing. WST shows that the phone is HardSPL. When I try to flash any Roms I get a Error 300 message. So I used the RUU MUN worked perfectly. The phone is my wifes & she is very happy. Thanks again for all the help. The Wizard may be old but it runs great.
I am trying to get TNT .20273 working on my G4, but my radio version is 2.30.11 and I heard this is why its not working correctly. I downloaded the T-Mobile 2.19.11, but I have Cingular...will this make a difference? Do I flash this like any other ROM? Do I need to flash this before or after I flash a new ROM?
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
Well I got TNT .20273 "working", but I was always getting missed calls and texts and whenever I would soft reset I would get like 10 cannot load blah blah file and I read somewere it was because the radio version I had. Plus I heard 2.19.11 was the best with no dropped calls and such.
al0ns0 said:
Hi guys,
This forums are just great!
Is there any "recommended" radio version? I've heard there are some old ones but I just wonder if upgrading it would really make any difference about the phone's reception.
I've noticed there are now two ways to flash new ROMs, hard and soft SLP, which one is best? My phone is already SIM unlocked but I want to load Slim Diamond WM 6.1.
Thanks in advance for your comments and help.
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First determine which version is your phone,G3 or G4,its very important,coz method for flashing a rom is altogether different for both the devices.
HardSPL and SoftSPL are solely meant to flash a G4 device and shud not be done for a G3 phone,likewise CID unlocking method for a G3 phone,through lokiwiz02b or WST_4.2.2 Tool, shud not be carried out on a G4 device.
You need to do alot of reading to understand all these methods,So..... get going!!! or else you might end up 'Bricking" your phone
zabardast_1 said:
Radio Rom is independent of any Rom/OS,it can be flashed to any device version or Rom/OS working on the phone,it has its own protocols (GSM) and doesn't include any IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) so it can easily and safely be flashed to any wizard device.
Secondly,as you have a G4 device and its CID locked,it can not be upgraded to any wm6 rom like TNT,unless you either upgrade through SoftSPL or HardSPL.
Thirdly,where have you heard,since you have radio version is 2.30.11 and its cause for not getting the phone upgraded to TNT Rom ? As I said above,Radio Rom has got nothing to do with ROM/OS.Yes! you can flash Radio Rom 2.19.11,it doesn't matter if you have a Cingular.
Wm6 Roms like TNT will certainly flash regardless of which version of Radio Rom you have at the present
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ok so you said that. i'd like to say, i have a g3 with radio 02.25.11 and i'm fixin to use a multitude of different roms i've found here .. some with touch flow, others are this and that. but none of them say anything about radio roms or compatibility or dropped call count. so my question to you is, will this radio rom i have make a difference? am i going to have to change radio roms or no?
This is the G4 subforum
Radio 2.19.11 is recommended.
Thanks a lot zabardast_1!
I did the reading and the upgrade. Evertyhing went great and my wizard is now running WM 6.1 and working great.
I do have a follow up question though. I noticed there are different ROMs and the today screen looks different (the way the clock is shown, the icons available, etc).
Is there any way to change the way things look without changing the ROM?
Thanks again!
Hi Guys, I have just bought a UK 02 XDA Mini S (Wizard), I have checked the boot screen and have :
ipl 2.21.0001
spl 2.21.0001
gsm 02.07.10
os 2.21.4.1
I am wanting to stick WM 6. (whatever the current best ROM is)
I would also LOVE to get the coverflow software going that I have seen on YouTube.
I am reading through hundreds of pages, but as yet have to identify how best to re-flash my Wizard. I have worked out that it's CID Locked and a G4 unit, but then I draw a TOTAL blank.
Can anyone point me in the right direction??
I have just got through installing XP (also have a Vista system), so am ready, willing, just not yet able.....
Any up to date tips??
Cheers,
Rich
Use this link to learn how to unlock your device (be careful, read all the things that you find):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329147
Use this link to learn how you can upgrade your device (be careful, read all the things that you find):
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard%20Windows%20Mobile%206%20for%20newbies
One more thing, Please search before you post.
Best Regards.