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Hi ALL
I been reading through all the post for the past week or so.. and contemplating upgrading to WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG on my 02 XDA .
I check out ROMkitchen and created my ROM but I deselected all additional software I Just wanted the bare bone WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG. I have not installed it yet. (BIG THANKS TO XDA-developers )
some users posted that they had good and bad experience with WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 . The reason why i created this topic is to collate disadvantage and advantage using WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG (due to not final version if I'm correct).
I check here and the Enhancements are damn good which should of been support by PPC 2002 Phone Edition .
a) Can user posted disadvantage and advantage using WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG i.e. annoying bugs http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1945
b) What's your personnel percentage based on WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 ENG? i.e. User ability
c) Will you port back to PPC 2002 ? i.e. WM 2003 ROM 4.00.05 Stability dose not meet my needs
Share your thoughts and experience please if possible
Well to be honest with you so far the device and the WM2003 are very stable together.
I am using QTEK 32MB with ROM 4.00.05 and i can assure you that the speed is even better and the performance is great.
Now that doesnt mean its bug free there are still some small problems here and there as any normal ROM.
My advice upgrade it... and then you will see that you will like it allot you wont downgrade.
By the way "Test Not for Sale" screen when reseting the device is great lol 8)
Frankly, my experience with my 02 hasn't been all that stellar. i do get some slowdowns, but i don't think i can go back to SER1.2's smsing... smsing in the new os is spectacular, well worth the other drawbacks.
my 2 cents
I've got 4.00.05 installed. After a soft reset, a white square box with a grey rectangle over it comes up on the screen- looks like some sort of dialog is trying to come up but isn't all there. There's also a (x) in the top corner. Clicking that brings back the today screen.
Has anyone else noticed this? It happened also when I was using the 4.00.01 ROM.
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I've got 4.00.05 installed. After a soft reset, a white square box with a grey rectangle over it comes up on the screen- looks like some sort of dialog is trying to come up but isn't all there. There's also a (x) in the top corner. Clicking that brings back the today screen.
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This is the SIM Toolkit. If you can still boot, simply remove the stk.lnk file from \Windows\Startup. Otherwise create a new ROM in the kitchen: I added the option to not include that link earlier today.
Sweet. Just took out the stk link.
So far this ROM seems pretty stable. I'm still having some issues with the SD card though.
It seems if I remove the card and add files with my card reader, then put it back in the phone, it's not seeing the changes.
4.00.05 vs 4.00.01
I have a fairly vanilla ROMKitchen 4.00.05.
The SIM toolkit is annoying (empty dialog) that pops up after a soft reset.
4.00.01 was very stable for me. If anything 4.00.05 appears a little less stable on GRPS. It keeps/makes the connection OK, but the network (TCP/IP side) seems to get confused until I power off the radio or reset sometimes.
I'm not going to bother going back to .01, but I won't bother updating any more devices to .05 if they already have .01.
..lance
Re: 4.00.05 vs 4.00.01
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4.00.01 was very stable for me. If anything 4.00.05 appears a little less stable on GRPS. It keeps/makes the connection OK, but the network (TCP/IP side) seems to get confused until I power off the radio or reset sometimes.
..lance
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Are you on T-mobile ? The whole GPRS network seems very unreliable since Saturday afternoon - I had problems in CO, then CA on Tuesday (though late morning was fine) and again today in CO. My machine ROM is unchanged in the last 10 days.
Hi All :lol:
First of all thanks to the XDA-developers for the ROMkitchen it is a very nice tool, Job well done!! , and also to Jeff for keep updating the site for the ROMkitchen, I Upgraded my XDA from the Jeff's ROMkitchen from XDA-developer ser 1.2 to 4.00.05 En, but i have some problem when trying to answer a call, my answer button is not working, sometimes it work sometimes not, and also i can not find from the previous menu, phone->tools->option->more, which enables the answer after 3 calls and lock all button except the power key. and also when I try to run the Easy Tweaks it hang my XDA, need to soft reset the unit, have you guys have the same problem...Please help me on this problem
And also can Jeff include the Software MyInfo and MyCalendar from JGUI to make the WM2003 looks good... thanks in advance. here is the site
www.jgui.net
My Unit Now is
4.00.05 EN
4.21 Radio stack
32S54
MorePower to XDA-Developers :!: :!: :!:
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But i have some problem when trying to answer a call, my answer button is not working, sometimes it work sometimes not
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Confirmed: we see that too. Annoying. But fortunately the 'Answer' on the screen always works, otherwise 4.00.05 would be unusable.
when I try to run the Easy Tweaks it hang my XDA, need to soft reset the unit, have you guys have the same problem...Please help me on this problem
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EasyTweak does all sorts of PPC2002-related registry tweaks. You can't really expect it to be very useful on new OS versions. I've set it to 'PPC2002 only' in the kitchen.
Hi,
I tried the 4.00.01 and got many bugs ... (bad reception ...)
Yesterday I put the 4.00.05 and all seems going well. Good GSM reception and for the moment no problem.
Thx to Jeff and his kitchen
As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
I recently purchased a QTEK 2020 which I got a bit cheap on account of it not having 'iMate' written on it. Before I get really into it and put software and stuff on it, I'd like to upgrade my ROM from 1.66 to 1.72, which I have found on this site. Do I have to go through all of the xda2nbftool stuff (which I more or less understand)? Presumably yes, to change the Operator (only?). I'm quite happy for the machine to think that it is an iMate, but presumably this does not work!
I am happy with my machine. It hasn't crashed yet. But it annoys me that it might not be quite as good as yours...
(I so feel like one of those people who wants to remove his cylinder head and replace it with pineapple's to make the engine run sweeter)
i dont really understand what you are asking
are you asking
1 about changing operator and so sim locking ?
2 are you asking if you need the pretty manual xda2nbftool way to upgrade xda2's ?
3 are you asking if it will work upgrading to 1.72 ?
1 you can sim unlock your device without changing rom
a rom never require you to use a special operator but the preset settings will be the operators who put out the rom
2 yes currently it's the only way with time people are likely to make it a bit more gui like the xdatools for xda1
3 it should work but some people are reporting issues with it or maybe that was the beta of 1.72
read about the exp of others in the posts about 1.72
Sorry - it's a simple question.
If I had an iMate I could just use the RUXXX upgrade without any fuss to upgrade to 1.72
However, I have a QTEK 2020. I guess therefore I have to use xda2nbftool to modify the operator name to QTEK - otherwise it will not work (despite the 2 devices being identical). I do not want to unlock a SIM or anything else (it is unlocked by default).
Just looking for confirmation of the above paragraph!
I read about the experience of others using the 'official' 1.72 and it seems okay (better battery life etc.)
Cheers
there are 2 errors i think which stop people from just flashing their xda2 flavor with any rom update in the form of an exe file
1 is country code error if the rom is released in one country it often have a block which will stop people from upgrading their another country xda2 with it, not sure why they do that
2 maybe a form of device block so you dont upgrade your qtek with the imate
i'm sure if you had an imate and the country code dident differ you would be able to upgrade without using xda2nbftool
with time a GUI tool like xdatools for xda1 will come and you'll be able to get around all these blocks without having to type
and such
If you want to upgrade your Qtek to Imate's 1.72 ROM, yes, you need to do all that stuff.
It's actually quite simple, the description on http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing is full, accurate, and is actually suited to Qtek owners without changing a single instruction.
I flashed my device (though on the first go it ended up in a dead-ish screen and I had to re-flash) and it works swimmingly.
However, you might get somewhat nervous encountering such dead-ish screens; and for good reason, flashing is dangerous after all.
Perhaps it's best to wait for a Qtek upgrade, they seem to be holding back a bit, so perhaps they're waiting to integrate WM2003 Second Edition, which should be a much larger upgrade. Also, you'll still be covered by warrantee.
If you're having specific problems with your 1.6x ROM, it could conceivably be a good idea to upgrade to the iMate ROM (using the instructions on the wiki), but if you're not having any problems, or problems that also occur in 1.72, or which are a result of 3rd party software you're using; don't bother.
You are right that QTEK seem to be a little slow in releasing anything. In fact I can't find any detailed 'official' support on QTEK outside the pages of this forum. Their website appears to be in swedish and is of very little use!
The QTEKCorporation website doesn't even list the 2020! Strange, as I understand that HTC own QTEK.
Most vendors (Expansys for example) list the 2020 as 'discontinued' (which is how I managed to negotiate a big discount!)
I tried to gatecrash club-iMate but they didn't like my IMEI number, and when I asked why not they said that they don't support my device.
I don't really care (assuming that my machine never has a problem...) and is it seems to do everything I want it to, I'll wait before updating the ROM. Maybe something will come from QTEK eventually - although I am not sure from where!!
Cheers
well qtek were the first ones out with 1.66 it came on my device before most people had gotten 1.60
beljames said:
As a regular contributor to various motor car forums I am always amazed at how idiots destroy perfectly serviceable cars in an attempt to 'improve' them. Anyway - today, I am one of those idiots.
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Who am I to contradict you? ;-)
Seriously: don't do the upgrade yet. Why?
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data). See, for example, the pages 45 - 50 of the PocketZenPhone thread in this forum. With my ROM version (1.60) I never had to hard-reset a single time. And I tried quite a few programs, some less buggy, some more buggy.
- also, although there are detailed instructions, things can always go wrong. And if that happens, you may need a bit of experience to sort them out. So wait a few more week, enjoy your device, read forums, and gain experience.
Cheers
Daniel
I have 1.72 for some time now and:
- it *never* crashed (I have to do soft reset from time to time like in any other release though, but no hang or anything)
- clear type is fixed. There's a post about a .cab to install which fixes the problem. ClearType is now great on 1.72
- my battery life improved over previous versions and I have a unit that can stand up to three days connected to my BT headset (a bluetrek G2) with me talking 2 to 3 hours a day and doing PDA stuff
so I would recommend you move on
Hi beljames, really I can understand you! I've almost destroyed a lot of good working car engines trying to "improve" them... :lol:
So: if you want to do this with your brand new QTEK 2020 go there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9060
and read carefully.
All worked fine for me. I upgraded from 1.66 ITA to 1.70 EN and my QTEK works perfectly!
About the cleartype problem you can find a fix in this forum: it works too.
I've also added a N2Ox system and a small turbocharger... it's a little bit heavier, yes, but it runs like a rocket! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Good balanced opinions!!
I think I'll wait a while to see if it annoys me. One single hang and I'll upgrade. Screw it up in Ghana and you don't get a lot of 1 to 1 technical support!!
By the way - I find it far easier to read the screen with Cleartype switched off (and mine is 1.66). Cleartype makes me squint!
An Loxodont - assuming that you are Italian, you will be amused to hear that the one car I used to lunch very frequently was an Alfa 33. Used to blow the inlet manifold clean off almost weekly.
- 1.72 has well-known problems. First, ClearType has become much worse - text just doesn't look as good as with older versions. Second, quite a few people report hangs that needed a hard reset (and cause a loss of all data).
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in defence of 1.72 then i have had both these issues with 1.66
Go for it....
Hi all,
just to let you know I also upgraded my Qtek 2020 from 1.66 to i-mate 1.72 following the "manual steps" to overryde the country code error and it works fine. The steps are simplier than it seems and i did it in 5 minutes. The upgrade itself is quite boring....it took almost one hour to complete the upgrade on all stacks.
One thing i can tell you: after the upgrade the device gets faster and it seems it has a "new" battery.
The cleartype prob is solved and forgotten with the right patch.
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
If i can give advise on this: Just go for it.....
Portuguese do it better....and we will win Euro2004 !
The only problem i still get is the stupid i-mate logo at startup and i can't seem to get rid of it. I want my old qtek logo back....
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maybe this guide can help you get your old pic or a new and more fancy one as bootImage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3759
hiya,
bit new to all this, so some advice from you guys is needed!
what are the best options for the m1000?
not sure if there are different versions of the phone so give you as much detail as i can find?
cpu intel pxa263
speed 400mhz
ram 128mb
model ph10a
the main app i need is excel, plus a prog to print via ir to my dj450 printer(have been using printpocketce)
hope i have not missed anything important??
thanks in advance
there are 2003SE roms wm5 roms wm6 early roms
personaly if your device works as it should now i prob would leave it alone as i cant say if printing would work with later roms
thanks for the reply!
cant say its been working well?...had a few random hangs from time to time and there has been times where you get a call no ringtone heard and no way to answer it? h/ware buttons didnt work,touch screen button flashes like its been pressed but still didnt answer
only way i found to sort it out was a soft reset
so the main reason for the upgrade was an improvement in phone function rather than a printing issue?
think the main question i meant to ask really was which is the most stable version for this type of phone,most of the bugs sorted out?
thanks again
upgrading time got error in spv m1000 help please
i regreat to say i did try for update my spv m1000 today but my got died now when i tried i did conntect my ppc with ppc via bluetooth actvesync when i run HimaUpgradeUt.exe then a window open and shows mgs wait 30 minunt but after even 1 minunt got error also my phone got stop like dead and screen shows on top serial and on bottom it shows v1.3 i realy .sad. becouse now i cant reeboot also even ui have not data cable any body help me plz what i do now ?
voltesep said:
thanks for the reply!
cant say its been working well?...had a few random hangs from time to time and there has been times where you get a call no ringtone heard and no way to answer it? h/ware buttons didnt work,touch screen button flashes like its been pressed but still didnt answer
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Had a lot of hanging, on my M1000, but after upgrading to the WM2003SE WWE, the speed of the machine has improved a lot, and it does no longer hang, allmost no matter what I do.
I found that some of the build in Orange apps were the reason for "hangtime" and slowdowns, because if I tryed to install them, from the original Ext-ROM, all the problems came back.
So my experience is, that "Genuine English WM2003 SE " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=230279 is a major improvement, to the Orange standard WM2003
I upgraded my SPV M1000 from Orange ROM to WM5 and now to Tofclock WM6 ROM, and it works fine. All features are ok for me, it's great!!!
thanks for the reply guys
would like to try tofclock wm6, if im going to do it may as well go the whole hog!
does anyone know if you can print via ir in office on wm6?...or am i going to need some more software??
Okay so I recently purchased an i-mate Spartphone I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find thru the search feature.
1st I was wondering is the phone I have a Qtek 8500 (I think thats what I read on here) it only says imate on the outside and smartflip below the inner screen and say's imate on loading.
2nd when I use the camera all I see is static no picture... is there a way to fix this or should I load a different rom? I am thinking of running the rose or neo rom anyways (I have to get on my home computer and do the unlocks first I believe)
3rd I am also new to Winmo phones so I was wondering if there was any nice apps that anyone could point me towards.
Thanks in advance
spinn360 said:
Okay so I recently purchased an i-mate Spartphone I have a couple of questions that I couldn't find thru the search feature.
1st I was wondering is the phone I have a Qtek 8500 (I think thats what I read on here) it only says imate on the outside and smartflip below the inner screen and say's imate on loading.
2nd when I use the camera all I see is static no picture... is there a way to fix this or should I load a different rom? I am thinking of running the rose or neo rom anyways (I have to get on my home computer and do the unlocks first I believe)
3rd I am also new to Winmo phones so I was wondering if there was any nice apps that anyone could point me towards.
Thanks in advance
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The phone is made by HTC but is also sold as other names such as i-mate smartflip.
I have an i-mate smart flip that I purchased on e-bay and was able to use the camera just fine with the original WM5 ROM. Though I must admit that after upgrading the ROM to Erofoch's Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional for HTC StarTrek the camera works even better with the camera night mode option.
This version of WM6 works amazing on this phone, it also has BatteryStatus set up with safe and quick overclocking.
It took me a while to figure out all the steps, there is so much great information in this forum that it can be a bit overwhelming. I was directed to this wiki web page which outlines the ROM upgrade process step by step. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...Trk_ROM_Update
For the Mobile 6.1 Pro ROM that I installed I only had to stop at step 2 because this ROM does the rest.
I hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Rudydb.
Okay I installed the Rose Rom by pampooh??(probably mispelled hope does not offend) anyways still just static on the camera not a huge deal for me I have a different camera phone for that purpose just was hoping it would fix it may be that I just got one with a bad camera but oh well
Yep, sounds like a bad camera. In general, when there is a driver issue, you will either get an error message when you launch the camera, or else a blank screen, but definitely not static.
iMate, Startrek, 3185, and a few other names are all the same phone. HTC sells the phone to Cellular carriers, and they can name it whatever they want. With the phone nerds here at XDA, the easiest way to refer to it is as "StarTrek", since this was the HTC code name for the phone. All the phones are basically alike, except for the Cingular/AT&T 3185, which has a larger battery, and twice the ROM (64MB instead of 32MB). You can buy the extended battery and associated back plate on eBay if you want it. All the versions of the phone run the same software and operating systems.
Software:
Tons of good software out there. What you will like is a matter of opinion. I can't live without:
1. Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 - Gives you text to speech, and awesome voice recognition.
2. Coreplayer - An actual working media player for the phone (not crappy like WMP).
3. Replacement calandar/tasks program - Tons out there, but I don't like the MS one.
4. Games - Again, find ones you like.
Hi all,
Yes I'm new, and i was wondering if I could have a bit of help please?
I have a Neon200, and the Nike stuff obviously doesn't work for it. Saying that however, I have gone through the Neon Hard-SPL, from here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
and then i upgraded to a russian 6.1 (which is also on the board somewhere), and now plan to move to 6.5. I found one here, but apparently will have issues with the keyboard and the camera button.
My question is, is anyone else working on a ROM for wm6.5 that will work on my neon200? Or is there anyway to get a niki rom to work on it?
Thanks, and sorry if I've just asked a bunch of noob questions.
I got the 6.5 rom to work on my phone (albeit with limited physical key support)
But now I'm having the issue of my sim not working in there (no service, denied, searching..)
Think this is because the radio I have for it now doesn't work.
Can anyone help me with that?
My phone is the Neon200 (duh..), from Telstra NextG in Australia.
Cheers guys
Yeah.. I've been poking around a bit as well.. I think the official HTC image is only 6.1.. so if anyone can port the Niki 6.5 over it would be great!
Hmm...
It may be an issue with thephone. I still have it, and also have a 16 key NIKI100 now, as well as the touch diamond.
Think i'll just sell the other ones and stick with the diamond.