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Hey there, since yesterday I'm a proud owner of this nice phone with android and as I'm crazy about tweaking and stuff I want to get the best out of my phone.
Question 1.
What can I achieve by getting Android 2.1 on my phone?
Question 2.
Is it possible to make a decent backup/flash backup of the branded stuff that comes with my phone? If yes how could I achieve this?
Question 3.
If it's possible to safely backup (to be able to keep waranty intact somewhat) can I get the upgrade for 2.1 NOW? Because I still don't have it (slow ass T-Mobile doing it by serial number or something)
Question 4.
Rooting, is it a good idea? What can I achieve with rooting my device (I know it gives me root access but what can I do further if I have root access?)
Question 5.
If I ever brick my device, is it still possible to get the original firmware on it?
Those are my questions for now :0 Hope you people can help!
jeffroiscool said:
Hey there, since yesterday I'm a proud owner of this nice phone with android and as I'm crazy about tweaking and stuff I want to get the best out of my phone.
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Question 1.
What can I achieve by getting Android 2.1 on my phone?
Better performance, A little better theme than 1.6, better touch response, better battery life, access to Android 2.x only apps, somewhat improved bluetooth, live wallpaper and few more..
Question 2.
Is it possible to make a decent backup/flash backup of the branded stuff that comes with my phone? If yes how could I achieve this?
Root your phone and use titanium backup..
Question 3.
If it's possible to safely backup (to be able to keep waranty intact somewhat) can I get the upgrade for 2.1 NOW? Because I still don't have it (slow ass T-Mobile doing it by serial number or something)
You can back up normal data (and also apps from market in android 2.1) like contacts, messages, settings etc through Se back and restore utility.
For backing up system apps, or upgrading to 2.1 out of turn, you need to root your phone, that will theoretically void your warranty.
Question 4.
Rooting, is it a good idea? What can I achieve with rooting my device (I know it gives me root access but what can I do further if I have root access?)
Wonderful idea, only if you are familiar with system tweaking and somewhat familiar with linux. And you are willing to take risks.
for example -
a) You can simply install some very useful root only apps like titanium backup, root explorer, app2sd etc to manage your phone contents.
risk associated: very low to moderate
b) you can even change basic framework and theme of your phone, remove bloatware that comes with phone and use terminal emulator to have (almost) full fledged linux console. etc
risk associated: Moderate to High
c) When it comes out, you can even get custom roms on your phone
risk associated: Very high to Fatal
Question 5.
If I ever brick my device, is it still possible to get the original firmware on it?
Depends on how bad the phone is messed up, at the end all depends on your knowledge of using the right methods and right tools.
If you can get the phone to recognized by SEUS/PC Companian/Flash tool you can (hopefully) repair/reflash it with firmware.
Hope it helps..
Yeah it helps, I'm not afraid to toy with my new phone and I do have linux experience. The only thing I want to be sure of is if I can reset everything in case of a brick or something if I ever need to send the phone back to Sony
So if I use the sony ericsson updater my phone gets fully restored to their stuff? (Well not if I edit my serial-number to get 2.1 quickly so theoraticly they can always find out I fiddled with it I guess.
So what I'm actually planning to do is:
1. Have a backup ready for the thing above
2. Get Android 2.1
3. Root Android 2.1
4. Remove safe to remove Bloatware
5. Get a custom theme going. As I'm seeing so far the HTC Theme was ported somewhat? I definiatly want a good homescreen. How 1.6 is now sucks.
6. Have a method of EASILY organizing all my applications I'm going to install after doing the above.
7. Install apps
8. Customize to taste.
So to get 2.1 now I would need to edit that serial which I can do if I get rooted first which probably requires Exploid because SuperOneClick was 2.0+?
Rooting 2.1 is SuperOneClick thingy.
Removing safe stuff with Titanium Backup.
Get that theme and start tweaking.
Finding good homescreen/launcher tools.
Get my apps again (Appbrain ftw)
jeffroiscool said:
So to get 2.1 now I would need to edit that serial which I can do if I get rooted first which probably requires Exploid because SuperOneClick was 2.0+?
Rooting 2.1 is SuperOneClick thingy.
Removing safe stuff with Titanium Backup.
Get that theme and start tweaking.
Finding good homescreen/launcher tools.
Get my apps again (Appbrain ftw)
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Yeah, you can use generic product code, or generic build.prop you can even find generic FW with flashtool on this forum.
PS: for 1.6 rooting Exploid works wonders..
I'm currently on a rooted stock 2.1...06.
i can't seem to find the Google Maps in the market.
my maps' version is at 4.4, but it says on appbrain that the latest is 5.3.1 for all android versions...
http://www.appbrain.com/app/google-maps/com.google.android.apps.maps
how can i update this?
i already tried searching for it, but found nothing.
also could not find gtalk and gmail...
any ideas?
try different os
Hey,
you can use different os like froyo final by owian or gingerbread 13, as your phone is already rooted. Try froyo u will really enjoy it, as i did ;-)
What Is Rooting?
First, for the newbies, let me clarify what rooting is. Getting root or rooting your phone is the process of modifying the operating system on your device to grant you complete control over it.
This means you can overcome limitations that the carriers and manufacturers put on your phone, extend system functionality, and even upgrade it to a custom flavor of Android.
The name root comes from the Linux operating system world, where the most privileged user on the system (otherwise known as Administrator on Windows) is called root.
Now, I’d like to take a moment to dispel a common misconception and clarify one thing: rooting does *not* mean installing a custom ROM (a ROM is a modified, "aftermarket" OS).
Installing a ROM may require rooting first, but just rooting can be done in only a few minutes, keeping your stock OS otherwise completely intact.
Usually rooting is fairly simple – in most cases you can find several videos and articles on the web that explain how to do it on your specific phone model – just Google "YOURPHONEMODEL root".
Rooting is not something manufacturers or carriers approve of but they can’t really prevent it from happening because the rooting process usually exploits a vulnerability in the operating system code or device drivers and allows the "hacker" to upload a special program called "su" to the phone. This program, not present or requiring a password by default, is the one that provides root access to programs that request it.
Now an obligatory warning: rooting your phone does run the risk of potentially bricking it (i.e. your phone could become nonfunctional) – so do your homework before attempting anything, unless you’re a fan of $500 paper weights.
Benefits Of Rooting
Let’s check out some of the benefits of rooting your Android phone.
Full Control Over Android
You have access to alter any system files, use themes, change boot images, delete annoying stock apps, such as Sprint’s NFL Mobile live and Nascar Sprint Cup Mobile, and other various native applications that might drive you crazy (Footprints, Voice Dialer, etc).
There is plenty of information on the web on how to accomplish this. Here is one example with instructions and some apps you can remove safely.
Back Up The System
On most rooted Android devices, you can back up your entire system to an SD card, much in the same way you can image a hard drive. This is great if you’d like to try a new ROM, as you can back up your phone, wipe it completely, flash the new ROM, and if you don’t like it, you can just restore from your backup and your phone will be exactly how it was before you wiped it.
The easiest way to do this at the moment is by using ‘Rom Manager’ (easily installable from the Android Market), developed by famed Android developer Koush.
Rom Manager allows you to easily flash a custom recovery image which is what you will need in order to backup and restore your phone. The recovery image is a special program that can be booted into outside of the phone’s main operating system, sort of like the BIOS on a PC. By default, the recovery image on most Android phones only gives you a few options, mainly related to wiping the phone. Custom recovery images expand upon these options and usually include scripts that can do things like fix your file permissions, or allow you to flash custom ROM’s that the normal recovery image would otherwise reject.
Normally, flashing a custom recovery image requires some command line work, either on your PC, or on a terminal emulator directly on the phone, but Koush’s Rom Manager should automatically flash his custom recovery image (known as ClockworkMod Recovery) for you, provided you’re on one of the phones listed below.
In order to use Rom Manager, you’ll need to make sure you’re using one of the supported devices, and that it is already rooted. Here is the list, as of today:
HTC Droid Eris (CDMA), AKA: Verizon Droid Eris
HTC Hero (GSM)
HTC Hero (CDMA), AKA: Sprint Hero
HTC Dream, AKA: T-Mobile G1
HTC Passion, AKA: Google Nexus One
HTC Magic (Sapphire 32A)
HTC MyTouch/Ion (Sapphire 32B)
Motorola Droid/Milestone
Using Rom Manager is pretty simple. Download and install the application from the market, fire it up, and you’ll be prompted with a disclaimer. If you’re feeling brave, go ahead and hit continue. You’ll be prompted to allow the application superuser permissions during this process – make sure you allow it access.
The first thing you’ll need to do is flash the ClockworkMod recovery image that I mentioned earlier, which can be done right in the app (it’s the first option). Rom Manager should automatically find the latest version of the right image for your phone, download, and install it – the whole process is seamless.
After that is done, you can simply use the ‘Manage and Restore Backups’, and ‘Backup current ROM’ options to, well, backup your current ROM or restore from an existing backup. It’s that simple!
At Android Police, we always encourage supporting developers, so please check out Rom Manager Premium if you enjoyed the free version!
Save Space On Your Phone
Move cache data to SD card
Moving cache data makes for a speedy system. Rooting allows you to save things like browser cache to your SD card to free up space. Its not too complicated a process, but does take a bit of skill. XDA Developer’s have instructions posted on their forum if you want to tackle the task, it is definitely worth it.
Move installed applications to SD card
Moving and storing apps on internal memory can significantly slow your device down. If you root, you can avoid that completely.
The easiest way to move applications to your SD card would be to flash a custom ROM that just does it for you (using an app called Apps2SD) – Cyanogen ROM is always a good choice.
Wow ! I'm more than confused now. I've been reading in this forum for 3 months now. And still consider my self a newbie. I don't think this post will help out some noobs like me. Sorry I had to say.
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Excellent post. Very helpful to a n00b like me. Thanks a lot.
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@marty.....this post s for the beginners those who dono abt the concept of rooting and it may be helping to them....not for u...thanks for reading my post
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Sorry, but I never flashed a rom before reading your post. Just did it 3 days ago And from reading a lot of posts, rom manager can go wrong installing clockworkmod. I don't know why. So as a beginner, I don't think going this way to instal a recovery was a good idea. But that's my point of view.
I bricked my first O1 with KDZ for downgrading. And surprise...the post I red was not complete and bricked my phone with is method.
All I want from this is to make sure people read more before trying anything considered easy for others. From reading a lot, I never had any problem since and know exactly what I'm doing.
peace...
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I'm welcoming your good thought from saving others from bricking their phone.....i just wanted to share some info about the concept of rooting for the new users and wanted them to know wat the android is capable of doing.......cheers up man.............
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U're right.
i bricked my phone last night . thanks to ROM MANAGER
but u can always recovery ur phone.. I wrote a short guide -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102694
I'm a NOOB too
Actually, I recommend people rooting and take the advantages on low-ended phones, such as our O1.
because the performance offered, is really really bad and we need a better tweak of a low-priced phone.
if you are satisfied with a high-ended phone, remember, DONT ROOT IT!
I dnt agree mate. I believe that rooting and installing custom roms are for further improving the performance of high-ended phones.. my bro owns xperia x10i.. but the default firmware literally sucks. This is why high ended phones need rooting too
Also, now a days, rooting and flashing are highly fashionable things in the android phone world. In this android fashion shows like Google I/O, We need our phones to walk the ramp in a new sexy dress frequently. So body building (performance boost) and makeover (a new rom/theme) is the need of the hour nowadays.
So be ready to walk the ramp. Start bodybuilding, do a makeover and be called a hunk.
Otherwise remain feminine.
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lekhwani said:
Also, now a days, rooting and flashing are highly fashionable things in the android phone world. In this android fashion shows like Google I/O, We need our phones to walk the ramp in a new sexy dress frequently. So body building (performance boost) and makeover (a new rom/theme) is the need of the hour nowadays.
So be ready to walk the ramp. Start bodybuilding, do a makeover and be called a hunk.
Otherwise remain feminine.
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yeah abs true mate
Personally, I've never felt prettier.
shankesh said:
What Is Rooting?
First, for the newbies, let me clarify what rooting is. Getting root or rooting your phone is the process of modifying the operating system on your device to grant you complete control over it.
This means you can overcome limitations that the carriers and manufacturers put on your phone, extend system functionality, and even upgrade it to a custom flavor of Android.
The name root comes from the Linux operating system world, where the most privileged user on the system (otherwise known as Administrator on Windows) is called root.
Now, I’d like to take a moment to dispel a common misconception and clarify one thing: rooting does *not* mean installing a custom ROM (a ROM is a modified, "aftermarket" OS).
Installing a ROM may require rooting first, but just rooting can be done in only a few minutes, keeping your stock OS otherwise completely intact.
Usually rooting is fairly simple – in most cases you can find several videos and articles on the web that explain how to do it on your specific phone model – just Google "YOURPHONEMODEL root".
Rooting is not something manufacturers or carriers approve of but they can’t really prevent it from happening because the rooting process usually exploits a vulnerability in the operating system code or device drivers and allows the "hacker" to upload a special program called "su" to the phone. This program, not present or requiring a password by default, is the one that provides root access to programs that request it.
Now an obligatory warning: rooting your phone does run the risk of potentially bricking it (i.e. your phone could become nonfunctional) – so do your homework before attempting anything, unless you’re a fan of $500 paper weights.
Benefits Of Rooting
Let’s check out some of the benefits of rooting your Android phone.
Full Control Over Android
You have access to alter any system files, use themes, change boot images, delete annoying stock apps, such as Sprint’s NFL Mobile live and Nascar Sprint Cup Mobile, and other various native applications that might drive you crazy (Footprints, Voice Dialer, etc).
There is plenty of information on the web on how to accomplish this. Here is one example with instructions and some apps you can remove safely.
Back Up The System
On most rooted Android devices, you can back up your entire system to an SD card, much in the same way you can image a hard drive. This is great if you’d like to try a new ROM, as you can back up your phone, wipe it completely, flash the new ROM, and if you don’t like it, you can just restore from your backup and your phone will be exactly how it was before you wiped it.
The easiest way to do this at the moment is by using ‘Rom Manager’ (easily installable from the Android Market), developed by famed Android developer Koush.
Rom Manager allows you to easily flash a custom recovery image which is what you will need in order to backup and restore your phone. The recovery image is a special program that can be booted into outside of the phone’s main operating system, sort of like the BIOS on a PC. By default, the recovery image on most Android phones only gives you a few options, mainly related to wiping the phone. Custom recovery images expand upon these options and usually include scripts that can do things like fix your file permissions, or allow you to flash custom ROM’s that the normal recovery image would otherwise reject.
Normally, flashing a custom recovery image requires some command line work, either on your PC, or on a terminal emulator directly on the phone, but Koush’s Rom Manager should automatically flash his custom recovery image (known as ClockworkMod Recovery) for you, provided you’re on one of the phones listed below.
In order to use Rom Manager, you’ll need to make sure you’re using one of the supported devices, and that it is already rooted. Here is the list, as of today:
HTC Droid Eris (CDMA), AKA: Verizon Droid Eris
HTC Hero (GSM)
HTC Hero (CDMA), AKA: Sprint Hero
HTC Dream, AKA: T-Mobile G1
HTC Passion, AKA: Google Nexus One
HTC Magic (Sapphire 32A)
HTC MyTouch/Ion (Sapphire 32B)
Motorola Droid/Milestone
Using Rom Manager is pretty simple. Download and install the application from the market, fire it up, and you’ll be prompted with a disclaimer. If you’re feeling brave, go ahead and hit continue. You’ll be prompted to allow the application superuser permissions during this process – make sure you allow it access.
The first thing you’ll need to do is flash the ClockworkMod recovery image that I mentioned earlier, which can be done right in the app (it’s the first option). Rom Manager should automatically find the latest version of the right image for your phone, download, and install it – the whole process is seamless.
After that is done, you can simply use the ‘Manage and Restore Backups’, and ‘Backup current ROM’ options to, well, backup your current ROM or restore from an existing backup. It’s that simple!
At Android Police, we always encourage supporting developers, so please check out Rom Manager Premium if you enjoyed the free version!
Save Space On Your Phone
Move cache data to SD card
Moving cache data makes for a speedy system. Rooting allows you to save things like browser cache to your SD card to free up space. Its not too complicated a process, but does take a bit of skill. XDA Developer’s have instructions posted on their forum if you want to tackle the task, it is definitely worth it.
Move installed applications to SD card
Moving and storing apps on internal memory can significantly slow your device down. If you root, you can avoid that completely.
The easiest way to move applications to your SD card would be to flash a custom ROM that just does it for you (using an app called Apps2SD) – Cyanogen ROM is always a good choice.
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If you are using copy/paste method, at least please:
1) Post link of source text (http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/)
2) Do some formating for better reading
3) It should be normal ask for approve before posting
You are lucky men, that ROM manager works now, because it is not so long, that it didn't work. In past it completely screw up our device. Now it working fine, because it have proper custom ROM loaded into it.
Thanks.
damn good !
Hi ! appreciate a lot your post and this helps me so well migrating from wm to android using now my wildfire !!!
shankesh said:
What Is Rooting?
First, for the newbies, let me clarify what rooting is. Getting root or rooting your phone is the process of modifying the operating system on your device to grant you complete control over it.
This means you can overcome limitations that the carriers and manufacturers put on your phone, extend system functionality, and even upgrade it to a custom flavor of Android.
The name root comes from the Linux operating system world, where the most privileged user on the system (otherwise known as Administrator on Windows) is called root.
Now, I’d like to take a moment to dispel a common misconception and clarify one thing: rooting does *not* mean installing a custom ROM (a ROM is a modified, "aftermarket" OS).
Installing a ROM may require rooting first, but just rooting can be done in only a few minutes, keeping your stock OS otherwise completely intact.
Usually rooting is fairly simple – in most cases you can find several videos and articles on the web that explain how to do it on your specific phone model – just Google "YOURPHONEMODEL root".
Rooting is not something manufacturers or carriers approve of but they can’t really prevent it from happening because the rooting process usually exploits a vulnerability in the operating system code or device drivers and allows the "hacker" to upload a special program called "su" to the phone. This program, not present or requiring a password by default, is the one that provides root access to programs that request it.
Now an obligatory warning: rooting your phone does run the risk of potentially bricking it (i.e. your phone could become nonfunctional) – so do your homework before attempting anything, unless you’re a fan of $500 paper weights.
Benefits Of Rooting
Let’s check out some of the benefits of rooting your Android phone.
Full Control Over Android
You have access to alter any system files, use themes, change boot images, delete annoying stock apps, such as Sprint’s NFL Mobile live and Nascar Sprint Cup Mobile, and other various native applications that might drive you crazy (Footprints, Voice Dialer, etc).
There is plenty of information on the web on how to accomplish this. Here is one example with instructions and some apps you can remove safely.
Back Up The System
On most rooted Android devices, you can back up your entire system to an SD card, much in the same way you can image a hard drive. This is great if you’d like to try a new ROM, as you can back up your phone, wipe it completely, flash the new ROM, and if you don’t like it, you can just restore from your backup and your phone will be exactly how it was before you wiped it.
The easiest way to do this at the moment is by using ‘Rom Manager’ (easily installable from the Android Market), developed by famed Android developer Koush.
Rom Manager allows you to easily flash a custom recovery image which is what you will need in order to backup and restore your phone. The recovery image is a special program that can be booted into outside of the phone’s main operating system, sort of like the BIOS on a PC. By default, the recovery image on most Android phones only gives you a few options, mainly related to wiping the phone. Custom recovery images expand upon these options and usually include scripts that can do things like fix your file permissions, or allow you to flash custom ROM’s that the normal recovery image would otherwise reject.
Normally, flashing a custom recovery image requires some command line work, either on your PC, or on a terminal emulator directly on the phone, but Koush’s Rom Manager should automatically flash his custom recovery image (known as ClockworkMod Recovery) for you, provided you’re on one of the phones listed below.
In order to use Rom Manager, you’ll need to make sure you’re using one of the supported devices, and that it is already rooted. Here is the list, as of today:
HTC Droid Eris (CDMA), AKA: Verizon Droid Eris
HTC Hero (GSM)
HTC Hero (CDMA), AKA: Sprint Hero
HTC Dream, AKA: T-Mobile G1
HTC Passion, AKA: Google Nexus One
HTC Magic (Sapphire 32A)
HTC MyTouch/Ion (Sapphire 32B)
Motorola Droid/Milestone
Using Rom Manager is pretty simple. Download and install the application from the market, fire it up, and you’ll be prompted with a disclaimer. If you’re feeling brave, go ahead and hit continue. You’ll be prompted to allow the application superuser permissions during this process – make sure you allow it access.
The first thing you’ll need to do is flash the ClockworkMod recovery image that I mentioned earlier, which can be done right in the app (it’s the first option). Rom Manager should automatically find the latest version of the right image for your phone, download, and install it – the whole process is seamless.
After that is done, you can simply use the ‘Manage and Restore Backups’, and ‘Backup current ROM’ options to, well, backup your current ROM or restore from an existing backup. It’s that simple!
At Android Police, we always encourage supporting developers, so please check out Rom Manager Premium if you enjoyed the free version!
Save Space On Your Phone
Move cache data to SD card
Moving cache data makes for a speedy system. Rooting allows you to save things like browser cache to your SD card to free up space. Its not too complicated a process, but does take a bit of skill. XDA Developer’s have instructions posted on their forum if you want to tackle the task, it is definitely worth it.
Move installed applications to SD card
Moving and storing apps on internal memory can significantly slow your device down. If you root, you can avoid that completely.
The easiest way to move applications to your SD card would be to flash a custom ROM that just does it for you (using an app called Apps2SD) – Cyanogen ROM is always a good choice.
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Wow gr8 post for ultra noob...I boted ur thread
Hello to everyone;
To start with I suppose I must introduce myself:
My name is Manu from México and I am a proud owner of a Samsung Galaxy Ace since three months ago.
During this time I had played with it and its stock ROM with 2.3.4 from carrier Telcel, I rooted it and removed bloatware from the carrier, the result was really nice; even thou after some apps the internal space run out, and therefore the responsiveness of my phone also got cluttered.
About a week ago or so I decided to go beyond and flashed "CyanogenMod 7.1-cooper-KANG-RC1 Android 2.3.7" so I tested it for a while and even thou I found many improvements, many bugs were unbearable for the phone use I’m used to; so I switched back to a Stock Rom and flashed "S5830SERKPO" with 2.3.5. and my regional modem.
In addition I did this process to Deodex + root "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118048&highlight=DEODEX” the result in my personal opinion is very good, but I’m back to the beginning. IM RUNNING OUT OF SPACE FOR INTERNAL STORAGE AND THE PHONE STARTS TO ACT LAGGY
I have read about s2e, link2sd and darktremor a2sd; where is require to partition your SD (which I already have also done with CMW at no avail) and I have finally ended up with a program called Install Manager 3.5.1 which promises to do move apps to SD (as far as they are executed locally from an .apk file and not market)
So... after this entire intro, and to avoid any flaming against me: I have read many many posts and have ended up overwhelmed and more confused.
¿Can someone please help me into the best way (in terms of stability and performance) to manage my apps to the SD card with a stock ROM?
(If possible a detailed explanation please, remember I have Stock "S5830SERKPO" with 2.3.5. and my regional modem)
Thanks a lot.
Also let me say I had read this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172684
But I get lost into "make sure the rom supports it" and therefore not sure if this applies to S5830SERKPO 2.3.5
Well, seems that my post is getting to much attention yet... still, I have an update; today during the course of the day, two times the phone screen turns off and it does not come back until I remove the battery.
The phone continues to work... (the radio still plays, calls continue, etc) just the screen turns off without any means to turn it on.
Hope someone can guide into how to find a better solution for my need.
Probably the easiest way to fix that is to install a ROM from the dev section (make sure it supports A2SD) Cyanogenmod is not official for our Ace, wich means lots of bugs, but other Customs Roms should be ok for you.
Create a ext4 and swap with CWM in your sd card (reboot into recovery, advanced, create sd partitions) Open the A2SD app and turn the swap on, move applications.
hello gentlemen
i bought my viewpad 7 last week. after digging this forum i tried to root my tablet with super one click but i was unable coz it stuck in screen and happen nothing somehow i tried gingerbreak and it worked. as i am totally newbie in android os and i have no idea on programming. but the most important thing is clockwork recovery i saw couple of youtube videos and tried working but ended up with error . i dont know how to setup adb on my pc so i tried terminal emulator but no keyboard.. tried qtadb but show me '' permission denied'' now i am pulling my hair off. i have got rom manager installed on my tablet but whenever i ty to install update.zip it say signature error or somthing (i have got custom rom in my sd and renamed to update zip also i have clockwork recovery img and flash recovery) the only thing i need is a working terminal emulator as i have no idea on comand from pc.
so is there anybody who can give me a easy tutorial or make a video to demonstrate how can i get clockwork recovery installed also custom rom i would be really really greatful
hope someone saves me...
Hello & welcome, there's no need to panic but definitely - very important to be patient, set aside at least half a day or more, and, read - read - read. Take notes as you go along & do NOT rush.
If you have not gone thru this sticky, please do so - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236990
Sticky #1 is mandatory reading to take full advantage of the Vpad7 so that you can understand the basics, describe your Vpad's hardware & build information, etc. and how to press various buttons, go back, reset & get into Recovery and Bootloader. Without knowing it, you are prone to run into problems.
First, you need to check & make sure that your CWM (which verison) is properly installed & working (and, if so) - check under the Advanced submenu to verify "Signature Verification" status.
Do you have an "older" non-ITE or "newer" ITE multi-touch screen device, which determine which custom ROM can be used? Be specific, please ...
Generally speaking, there is no need to rename a downloaded ROM's zip file to update.zip for flashing ... so I suggest that you do more reading first.
Do you have USB debugging turned on? Applications - unkown sources turned ON to allow installation of non-Market apps? A working knowledge is essential to avoid (soft) bricking your device by being able to understand the process for Flashing - start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Flashing_Guide_-_Android
There's nothing simple & easy about all these, sorry - time & patience is a requirement to get everything working together. Look under the "Development" section for how to install ROM & the issues involved - there are just a handful of ROMs and you don't need to spend a hundred hours going thru all of them, a few hours of reading will do - a 10 minute Youtube video isn't going to do it. The best person to "save" you is you - YMMV. Regards.
thanks a million i finally made it. i used rom manager to install un official clockwork recovery and did install custom rom however i need one more final solution i was trying to get app2sd but my rom maker said it is built in inside the rom just need to creat ext3 but i guess i cant do that without comand so again is there any manual method to do that i saw an option on rom manager but it offers only 512mb partition but i want more may be 8 gb or 4gb i have 16gb sd card.. so can u help me pls...
and i yes i had usb debug on. unknown source on
big_b0sss said:
... i used rom manager to install un official clockwork recovery ... custom rom however ... app2sd ... is built in inside the rom just need to creat ext3 but ... without comand ... rom manager ... offers only 512mb partition ... may be 8 gb or 4gb i have 16gb sd card..
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1. Rom manager - I do not use them on my Android devices but if you are comfortable with it and help simplify your tasks & learning curve, good for you. Remember to backup, backup & backup your work & save it to more than one location - those "oops" happened to all of us, sometimes (and, at the worst time - Murphy's Law 101)
2. You only need a few files in its own sub directory or folder to properly run adb and busybox, and, to run the (good old DOS) command prompt from your PC - just need to type the commands carefully. Alternatively, Terminal Emulator (with or without the shell or user interface) can be downloaded from Android Market to the Vpad7 to install & run (it's not pre-loaded) with SU enabled ... (more reading for you on how-to's)
3. Not sure if you are referring to App2SD in Market (quite a few out there) or DT's A2SD and A2SDGUI in some of the custom ROM. Vpad7's custom ROM recommend 1 MB SD ext3/partition in general (ext4 is more advanced and challenging) - there is no need, advantage or benefit in a 2GB or 4GB ext3 with a 16GB mSD card (as you are allocating/reserving unused space that you cannot dynamically changed or reassign later on as you begin to run low on "general" storage space on the card - PLUS, you will have to reformat the card & wipe/lose everything on it, until it's restored from saved backup)
FYI - I keep the last 3 to 5 CWM Backup images/files on the mSD card and it's close to 3GB in size already, not counting pix, mp3's and saved videos.
4. Older version of CWM Recovery worked best for me in repeated ROM flashing & setup to partition/format the mSD, verison 5.0.2.6 can work but the newest one posted 5.0.2.7 did NOT work for me - YMMV, of course. Refer to the one in Cleanviewpad7 V1.0 and its instructions or EU Vapd 7 V1.7b - as I'm guessing from your description that your device is a newer ITE multi-screen hardware build. KWBR V3.2 ROM works with ITE and has the newer kernel and A2SD is easy to use per installation guide - it's lean & stripped of non-essential apps.
Have patience, backup & have run !
thanx again for ur reply but i dont know why i do not get keyboard on my terminal emulator. i tried to put comand through terminal emulator but due to keyboard issue i cant i also tried dos but i have no knowledge on that. can u make a video for me or a tutorial how can i get a2sd work on my vpad 7
thanks again
big_b0sss said:
... dont know why i do not get keyboard on my terminal emulator. i tried to put comand through terminal emulator but due to keyboard issue i cant i also tried dos but i have no knowledge on that.
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First, as I asked before, we do NOT know which ROM you are trying to use?
But, I'm going to guess - since I've flashed all of the working ITE ones here, and you are using KWBR v3.x - and, if so, please confirm or verify, yes or no.
If so, I had issues with its keyboard not showing up in terminal emulator, and there are different reasons for it - namely, including the OP developer's choice of installed KB. However, as a workaround - by running adB/busybox from Windows Vista's command prompt, I can execute instructions to re/mount, reboot, etc.
By installing a different KB & switching to it, it worked under terminal and I can run command prompts directly. There is a learning curve involved here - not something to rush, rather steps by steps - there are "stickies" in the threads and I do not want to further clutter up excellent guides already written up, 6 to 9 months plus ago - which I took time to read, follow & work with. I encourge you to do so as well.
My advice, the easiest to do, is to install & start with a different ROM - Cleanviewpad ROM is basic, simple & easy to install, virtually "bug" free and I suggest that you start with that. KB worked directly as a toggle, popping up from terminal emulator, and you can run commands from it.
Once you are comfortable & has everything working, you can optimize your A2SD and move apps from internal storage to mSD card, etc. and progress to the next level - EU Vpad 7 V1.7b ITE ROM is nice but from experience and reading the thread's posts, some "beginners" lacking knowledge & skills have trouble with it. By running a # of patches, I get it updated to the latest and it's running optimized to my personal liking - it's not entirely difficult to learn but not for someone completely new to Android OS.
Here's a link that you could've google right here in XDA - guide to ADB - bookmarked the link for you, please search for other guides, thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879701
hi there thank you so much for helping me again and yes i am using kwbr rom because i have tried cleanviewpad 7 but stuck at welcome screen doesnt work anything then tried lakehouse froyo enhanced but link disabled so stuck with this rom.. i really wish i cloud post on dev section coz im kinda stuck with this post..
but hey if u dont mind and if u have froyo enhanced rom can u upload that for me or give me a working link...
sorry for bothering u but would appreciate
Still waiting for a ROM for Viewpad 7e. Anyone know of one in development? Even the stock ROM bundled with CWM would be good so that we would have the ability to do a Nandroid backup.
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Cyanogen Mod 9.4, Shadow kernel, EI22. I like my Ice Cream Sandwich!
big_b0sss said:
... using kwbr rom because i have tried cleanviewpad 7 but stuck at welcome screen doesnt work anything then tried lakehouse froyo enhanced but link disabled ... and if u have froyo enhanced rom can u upload that for me or give me a working link...
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Are you making good progress after rooting with custom ROM, learning a bit more about using adB and terminal emulator? I searched my storage bins for what I've kept for the Vpad7 - and I have NO luck yet finding the Froyo enhanced ROM. I did uploaded the EU V1.7b ITE custom ROM to Dropbox, along with the a2sd*.zip file (just in case, you are comfortable & ready to try - after backing things up) The A2SDGUI app is available in Market, just search & download & install up once the EU V1.7 ITE ROM is up.
A2SD does NOT need to be working for the ROM to do its basic functions, just that it will soon run low on internal storage/memory and that's where A2SD come in. If you find it useful, do a CWM backup first , then use the earlier version of CWM to reformat the mSD card again (thus, wiping it clean) and setup a 1MB ext3 partition per detailed instructions. Reboot & reconnect USB, and move/restored all of your saved files/folders/settings, etc. back to the mSD drive.
Next, flash the A2SD program by DT again just to be sure from Recovery - and then Restart into Recovery. Wipe cache & dalvik and boot up again - cross your fingers and A2SD should be up & running - check it with A2SDGUI and/or Titanium Backup will display various memory/partition/storage space & usage (used/free & total)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64025118/EUViewpad7v1.7b-ITE.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64025118/apps2sd-2.7.5.3-dt.beta04-signed.zip
Again, I am and will be be responsible for anything if something goes wrong by using & flashing these zip files, they are unchanged or unaltered as I originally downloaded them. I'm simply posting them with the mess created by the multi-upload servers being offline, etc. as many folks are completely at a loss for what to do next. Full credits go to the OP/xda-developers for creating their masterpieces. If you are not comfortable or unsure, please do not proceed or assume the risk - the stock ROM, especially unrooted, isn't bloated by any means at all. There is NO over-clocking at this point for any ITE kernel for the Vpad7, period - none that I know of. Folks, do NOT confuse or try this with Vpad7e (which is a different device, sorry - cannot help at all)
Regards & do post with your results and share, and, if I can help further with the specifics, will be glad to do so.
about the euvpad rom
hi there i am glad that u sugested me that rom but before i try to do anything i just want to ask that which rom is better, im asking u coz u might know as u have tried diffrent rom. i am currently having no issue with kwbr rom however somtimes lag and slowness i know its bocoz vpad has only 600mgh processor so does euvpad rom faster or is there any good thing just wondering...
if euvpad rom is better i will go ahead and intall it.. so kind of waiting on ur reply
big_b0sss said:
hi there i am glad that u sugested me that rom but before i try to do anything i just want to ask that which rom is better, im asking u coz u might know as u have tried diffrent rom. i am currently having no issue with kwbr rom however somtimes lag and slowness i know its bocoz vpad has only 600mgh processor so does euvpad rom faster or is there any good thing just wondering...
if euvpad rom is better i will go ahead and intall it.. so kind of waiting on ur reply
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Personally, I prefer and continue to use EU V1.7b for ITE, it has support for European languages as well as Asian languages. KWBR only support Euro language and the ROM is more "stripped" down with fewer apps, but it does work nicely "out of the box" with A2SD - downside being that internal memory/storage still seem to run low (once I re-install 50+ apps on my device)
For EU V1.7 - it's using an older version of Android Market, but can be easily updated if one wanted to, and, has a few more "basic" apps pre-installed including Documents To Go - and, by adding "Car Home" - I have a working 7" GPS device in the car when needed (sound volume is low, however due to those tiny stereo speakers) - I have been running it for 5+ months now, very smooth & few, if any, FC or freezes, and, Angry Birds running nicely on it, same with YouTube videos over WiFi connection (my 3G is on Edge network, so speed is SLOW and thus very choppy due to broadband speed, not CPU-related)
If you are running KWBR nicely now, do a Backup from CWM first, wipe cache/dalvik & system next - then flash the EU Rom and setup - to see whether you like it. And, if you do - follow the post's steps that I wrote up a while back and get A2SD running with the earlier verison of CWM for ext3 partition, restore/copy back all the files to the mSD card - and reboot/check for A2SD functionality, hopefully - it works without further tweaks - and I think you will like it.
If not, it's easy enough to get back into Recovery, wipe clean it first (very important to clear all traces) and RESTORE the KWBR image from the mSD, and reboot - and you can continue using it. Set aside 2 or 3 hours to do this slowly & right, and you will find the process educational & informative - and, as I always remind newbies - the rules are simple - Backup, Backup and Backup !!
Cheers & go have fun !
I apologize for newbie confusion - i am trying to understand - but not finding anything step by step with Sprint Samsung note 3 NK4 4.4.4 version - or anything step by step in the past month.
Here is why i want to root
1. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM:my phone keeps telling me i'm about out of storage and my spotify downloads keep getting lost - prior to some update - i was able to put spotify cache on external 64gb . but now - it is on the 32GB internal- my spotify is about that huge - 32gb - i don't get sprint everywhere so important. and it won't move (i've downloaded file moving apps - none work for kitkat 4.4.4) I have 96gb of space on my phone ! I have enough room ! why did developers make external drive so difficult to use ?!?!?!??!?!!?!??!?!?
2. I had the non root modification for free hotspot working back in august/September - again - an update and it no longer works - not as important as number 1. but was nice - i pay $100/month for unlimited plan - i don't want to pay for the occasional use as hotspot for ipad
My PROBLEM:
trying to go through this forum - or to begin to root - my first problem - I have a Mac computer (though access to windows) i've bricked a router - i really don't want to soft or otherwise brick or Trip Knox on my phone - I want to be able to upgrade if i stay w/ sprint - and don't want to void any warranties
I can't find Specific NOTE 3 4.4.4 NK4 root information - when i search forum it is for the Galaxy S5 .
i am not understanding odexed and deodexed ? -
most all i read is for Nh7 - ?! and NH7 seems to go w/ 4.4.3 or 4.4.2 not 4.4.4
I just want to be sure i do the right thing for my specific phone - would really like to NOT trip knox - would love a one download step - and for it to work - i'm not a programmer - i know just enough to get me in a lot of trouble - so the step by step w/ my specifics so i know it actually worked as i follow steps of someone else.
i would prefer not to root - but the storage thing is really driving me nuts. if you know of a simpler route to make phone use storage like RAID - would be great - but everything on play store is for rooted devices. thank you for patience in helping me.:good:
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I apologize for newbie confusion - i am trying to understand - but not finding anything step by step with Sprint Samsung note 3 NK4 4.4.4 version - or anything step by step in the past month.
Here is why i want to root
1. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM:my phone keeps telling me i'm about out of storage and my spotify downloads keep getting lost - prior to some update - i was able to put spotify cache on external 64gb . but now - it is on the 32GB internal- my spotify is about that huge - 32gb - i don't get sprint everywhere so important. and it won't move (i've downloaded file moving apps - none work for kitkat 4.4.4) I have 96gb of space on my phone ! I have enough room ! why did developers make external drive so difficult to use ?!?!?!??!?!!?!??!?!?
2. I had the non root modification for free hotspot working back in august/September - again - an update and it no longer works - not as important as number 1. but was nice - i pay $100/month for unlimited plan - i don't want to pay for the occasional use as hotspot for ipad
My PROBLEM:
trying to go through this forum - or to begin to root - my first problem - I have a Mac computer (though access to windows) i've bricked a router - i really don't want to soft or otherwise brick or Trip Knox on my phone - I want to be able to upgrade if i stay w/ sprint - and don't want to void any warranties
I can't find Specific NOTE 3 4.4.4 NK4 root information - when i search forum it is for the Galaxy S5 .
i am not understanding odexed and deodexed ? -
most all i read is for Nh7 - ?! and NH7 seems to go w/ 4.4.3 or 4.4.2 not 4.4.4
I just want to be sure i do the right thing for my specific phone - would really like to NOT trip knox - would love a one download step - and for it to work - i'm not a programmer - i know just enough to get me in a lot of trouble - so the step by step w/ my specifics so i know it actually worked as i follow steps of someone else.
i would prefer not to root - but the storage thing is really driving me nuts. if you know of a simpler route to make phone use storage like RAID - would be great - but everything on play store is for rooted devices. thank you for patience in helping me.:good:
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All I can give is info, first no free hotspot/or WiFi tether without a rooted phone. Second, there is NO rooting process for 4.4.4 NK4 that will NOT trip KNOX, as yet. The only option available to you is to downgrade your phone to the version of KitKat 4.4.2 NC5. Then you can use the TowelRoot app and root your device WITHOUT tripping KNOX. Once rooted this will give you the ability to run WiFi Tether Router app ( what I use ) to run internet for my PC.
As for your not being able to write spotify to external storage, there was an update that stopped us from doing this. Here is an app that fixes the problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684188 however again it requires a rooted device.
Since your spotify file is so big, the cache in the device can't process/move it all at once. Is there a way to create a new spotify folder on your on your Mac/ PC, then move small amounts of spotify to you computer till it is all there. Then create a new folder on your device where you want spotify to be, and move small amounts back to the new folder. ( you should be able to do this via your charging cable connected to your computer, once the auto play comes up, choose to view files, then create a new spotify folder in either the internal sd card music folder or on the external sd card create a music folder then inside that create a new spotify folder ). Then move it back in small amounts, you can do this without being rooted.
Now restart your phone and the new folder will show up. Here is my thread for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/samsung-note-3-rom-flashin-basics-t2896440 Enjoy !!!
pls explain downgrading - and see update
i greatly appreciate your response-. first-i esteem your opinion and have seen your name in a lot of threads- and most people here have much more knowledge than i- but i see you helping them too so:
1. would you recommend that i root my phone?
2. if no- respect that answer bc on my part not very confident-i have an above understanding of technology-but the realm of programming and rooting REALLY out of my comfort zone
3. if yes: what are the pros and cons of down grading? -- (and this baffles me of - how can downgrading not trip knox - ? i realize a 'loop hole' of some type of programming has prevented my current version - i just find it odd that a loop hold allowing downgrading would work and not trip it (and is downgrading HARD ?!)
4. i am unclear of some terms stock vs rom what is the correct term for the rom i currently use (bc i think of of it is stock- but what i read doesn't seem to line up to my understanding)
----Update---- I don't know how ! but some how - I NOW HAVE SPOTIFY SAVING TO MY EXTERNAL SD WHOOT WHOOT WHOOT did i mention - I HAVE NO IDEA HOW ?! !!
now ....
i use es file explorer - and i was able to make folders etc on ext sd card - NOW I CAN'T (how the heck did i get spotify on there?!) but i wanted to delete some folders and rename my 2014_backup folder to 2015_backup b/c there's nothing in there - and now that i have spotify on there and downloading to ext sd card - DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH IT blah.
thanks again for your direction and help - i appreciate all the info - i am just slightly overwhelmed to find a concise step by step --- i've downloaded SO many 'tools' but haven't any clue which - when - etc - and it seems everyone has just a speck different situation - math never my strong suit b/c unless the example given in class was exactly like homework - i never made the leaps to solve it if it didn't follow the step by step example - or required me to figure out it was multi stepped w/ another learned module - i'm a step by step no frills thrills girl - no genius here... so again - i'm grateful.
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i greatly appreciate your response-. first-i esteem your opinion and have seen your name in a lot of threads- and most people here have much more knowledge than i- but i see you helping them too so:
1. would you recommend that i root my phone?
2. if no- respect that answer bc on my part not very confident-i have an above understanding of technology-but the realm of programming and rooting REALLY out of my comfort zone
3. if yes: what are the pros and cons of down grading? -- (and this baffles me of - how can downgrading not trip knox - ? i realize a 'loop hole' of some type of programming has prevented my current version - i just find it odd that a loop hold allowing downgrading would work and not trip it (and is downgrading HARD ?!)
4. i am unclear of some terms stock vs rom what is the correct term for the rom i currently use (bc i think of of it is stock- but what i read doesn't seem to line up to my understanding)
----Update---- I don't know how ! but some how - I NOW HAVE SPOTIFY SAVING TO MY EXTERNAL SD WHOOT WHOOT WHOOT did i mention - I HAVE NO IDEA HOW ?! !!
now ....
i use es file explorer - and i was able to make folders etc on ext sd card - NOW I CAN'T (how the heck did i get spotify on there?!) but i wanted to delete some folders and rename my 2014_backup folder to 2015_backup b/c there's nothing in there - and now that i have spotify on there and downloading to ext sd card - DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH IT blah.
thanks again for your direction and help - i appreciate all the info - i am just slightly overwhelmed to find a concise step by step --- i've downloaded SO many 'tools' but haven't any clue which - when - etc - and it seems everyone has just a speck different situation - math never my strong suit b/c unless the example given in class was exactly like homework - i never made the leaps to solve it if it didn't follow the step by step example - or required me to figure out it was multi stepped w/ another learned module - i'm a step by step no frills thrills girl - no genius here... so again - i'm grateful.
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First where you able to create and or remove files with you PC connected via the charging cable ? BTW you might be able to get your hotspot working, without root here http://forum.xda-developers.com/not.../app-one-click-hotspot-enabler-menus-t2816159 I know it says root required on the top but that is only for some not all of the features of the app. Another person got his note 3 hotspot to work without a rooted device .
1/2. Ok, let me first ease your fears of rooting. Rooting is to gain access to your phone that is otherwise locked by the manufacturer. I have rooted pretty much every phone I've ever used and have never had an issue turning it in or taking it in for warranty work. I do a lot of trade ins with Best Buy, as they have better pricing and perks than Sprint, and I haven't had an issue yet. I just put a stock Note 3 rom on, erase all my info and trade it in. I also have taken my phone into Sprint for warranty work with no issues. They do not check root to do warranty work unless you bring in a Note 3 running an S5 rom and even then they will tell you, on the side, to put a stock rom on and bring it back in. Sprint cannot refuse your request based on a rooted device and, worst case, just pay the deductible and get another phone through your insurance if you're that worried. The warranty voided issue is really only if you send the phone back to Samsung but who is doing that really? Bottom line, rooting your phone will do nothing but give you COMPLETE access to your phone to do as you please. Is it scary at times? Absolutely if you do not know what you are doing. However, you do not seem like you are looking for customized roms and themes so just download a stock rooted rom with hotspot and you'll be set. As you get more comfy then you can play around with the phone and different roms and really have some fun. So yes I recommend root.
3. As far as downgrading, you cannot do this and it will not trip Knox. Knox is only tripped if you flash a custom recovery image and I believe CF Auto Root trips Knox based on its script but I could be wrong. I'm almost positive, based on your description, that you took the OTA to NK4 and as such you cannot downgrade once you update the bootloader image. I know this is all Greek to you but trust me once you upgrade via OTA you cannot go backwards. Also, once rooted, you cannot receive any more OTAs unless you unroot and return the phone to complete stock out of the box. However, once rooted, you won't want to return to stock. It's easy to unroot as well so no issue there. Once an update comes out the devs here are pretty good in getting rooted roms out using the updated rom. All you would have to do is flash the firmware to allow the phone to run the newest rom. Again, I know this is all Greek to you but you'll understand more and more as time goes by. If you need further help, just PM me and I'll help you as much as I can.
4. Stock means exactly that. It's a stock phone without root. However, it could also mean you're running a stock rom( ie the same rom the phone is shipped with) vs a customized rom( ie an S5 or Note 4 Ported Rom).