just got my invisible shield in the mail today...!!! after reading the instructions, i was taken aback by ghastly 12-24hr drying period...
i was thinking about putting the tp2 in my car, let up the windows, and turn the heat on high...i don't think it will damage the phone, and will speed up the drying time...wudda ya think...???
what did you do, if anything, to speed up your drying time...???
lol man I'm sure about leaving the TP2 in the car to dry up is a good idea... these things take time and patience. If you rush into it the outcome most likely messed up.
Cheers
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just got my invisible shield in the mail today...!!! after reading the instructions, i was taken aback by ghastly 12-24hr drying period...
i was thinking about putting the tp2 in my car, let up the windows, and turn the heat on high...i don't think it will damage the phone, and will speed up the drying time...wudda ya think...???
what did you do, if anything, to speed up your drying time...???
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If you are trying to shorten the time, I would just use a hair dryer on a lower setting for a bit. I had an old MDA that I dropped in water. I took the battery out, and used a hair dryer, then placed next to a fan for several hours. Popped in the battery and it worked fine.
Definitely take the battery out, just to make sure, but on a lower setting, you should be fine.
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Hallo
I have a HD2 (T8585) which accidentally was dropped into water. (There goes
the warranty into the water too). The phone was
opened and let to dry on a warm place for some time. Now, when I switch on
the HD2, I am unable to swich ON the mobile. The battery measures 3.8v.
I tried to switch ON the HD2 with the charger, but unsuccessful.
Can u share your experience / tips on repairing the same please.
The charging LED doesnt light on or the pressing the switch on button also
doesnt help.
This is a 3 month old HD2 in very good physical state ( but for water damage).
I really dont want to throw away such a nice phone or dismantle to parts
for spareparts price.
Please provide tips on what to check / measure after opening the
back cover > battery > 4 screws > ?
I have (2 cents worth) basic knowledge of electronics and would like to get it alive.
Thanks
Alertme
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The phone was
opened and let to dry on a warm place for some time.
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Depending on the length of time it was submerged and how it was "opened" to let dry, it is often possible to save a phone from contact with liquid.
Obviously absolute MINIMAL time in water or any other liquid will improve your chances, as well as immediate removal of the battery.
The phone should be disassembled as much as possible and excess liquid should be removed. The parts should then be placed in a warm (not hot!) location with low humidity such as in a bag with rice or silica packets (if handy) to absorb moisture. It should then be allowed to dry for at least 48 hours (the longer the better).
Since you did not state how long your phone was exposed to the liquid and exactly what steps you took to dry it, I cannot say whether or not it is possible to salvage it. The fact that it is not powering on or charging is definately not a good sign.
I have (2 cents worth) basic knowledge of electronics and would like to get it alive.
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Unfortunately it may require a bit more than 2 cents of electronic knowledge to repair severe water damage. Assuming it can be repaired at all...
If you want to try you need to remove the circuit boards and carefully clean any corrosion around all the contacts.
Use a q-tip and very soft toothbrush to remove corrosion. Distilled water or a pure alchohol or solvent that contains no oil or other ingredients and will evaporate compeltly can be used. This is a tedious process and every electrical component must be cleaned.
Once the componets are clean, carfully wash (if nessecary) and dry the circuit board and all electrical contacts. Place it in a warm dry bag (with rice or silica packets) and let it dry for at least 12hrs (longer is better). Do not use heat or direct sunlight to speed up the drying process. Once the compenents are dry again, reassemble your device. Make sure the battery is cleaned and dry as well. (If possible use an alternate battery.)
Power on the device. If you still get no power/charging/boot then swear loudly and punch a hole in the wall.
Good luck.
Fully Agree with your post faelok, sadly you did not complete your last sentence:
Faelok said:
...... then swear loudly and punch a hole in the wall.
Good luck.
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Take some glue and put the HD2 brick in it...
Wilco said:
Fully Agree with your post faelok, sadly you did not complete your last sentence:
Take some glue and put the HD2 brick in it...
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Ouch...
You know what I was thinking might be funny though? Take it out to a public place somewhere and pretend to have an angry conversation on it, then yell "OH YEA!?!? WELL $^%# YOU TOO!!" then smash it on the ground.
Then enjoy the reactions on the faces of the unsuspecting public.
So my girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup holder with water in it today. Everything works but it's getting hot, and I couldn't get to it in time to pull the battery and disassemble. It's mainly working, but gets warm and eats battery violently. Has anyone had any luck with the rubbing alcohol bath trick on one of these? I'm not sure how they may react. Some things are getting a bit more sensitive these days.
Side note... If anyone has a main-board laying around from an old busted phone or anything, let me know. She's not pleasant when she's disconnected from the facebook world. The sooner I get this done, the sooner my ear stops bleeding.
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So my girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup holder with water in it today. Everything works but it's getting hot, and I couldn't get to it in time to pull the battery and disassemble. It's mainly working, but gets warm and eats battery violently. Has anyone had any luck with the rubbing alcohol bath trick on one of these? I'm not sure how they may react. Some things are getting a bit more sensitive these days.
Side note... If anyone has a main-board laying around from an old busted phone or anything, let me know. She's not pleasant when she's disconnected from the facebook world. The sooner I get this done, the sooner my ear stops bleeding.
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Put it in a bowl of rice with the bowl sitting on a heating pad set to high for 24-48 hours. Dont power on the phone in this time and make sure the battery is removed. Also ensure that its the phone getting hot and not the battery.
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Yeah when my phone went for a swim, I dove in to the pool after it. I think I ripped the battery out of it even before I was fully out of the water. I had to let it sit in rice for two days until I could no longer see water between the glass and LCD.
And even then, I opened it up and scrubbed the motherboard down with a stiff toothbrush and 91% rubbing alcohol, I wouldn't suggest dousing the phone in it, though.
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Yeah when my phone went for a swim, I dove in to the pool after it. I think I ripped the battery out of it even before I was fully out of the water. I had to let it sit in rice for two days until I could no longer see water between the glass and LCD.
And even then, I opened it up and scrubbed the motherboard down with a stiff toothbrush and 91% rubbing alcohol, I wouldn't suggest dousing the phone in it, though.
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I've taken phones that people could only find by calling it and seeing it light up in a puddle and saved them two days later. The trick was always get the water off and replace it with something pure so iron and zinc deposits can't complete a random circuit. Rubbing alcohol baths and a toothbrush have been common here, followed by compressed air, and finally rice for a day. It almost ALWAYS works, but this one is failing. Maybe I'll just buy a new board. To bad because the phone is still beautiful.
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I've taken phones that people could only find by calling it and seeing it light up in a puddle and saved them two days later. The trick was always get the water off and replace it with something pure so iron and zinc deposits can't complete a random circuit. Rubbing alcohol baths and a toothbrush have been common here, followed by compressed air, and finally rice for a day. It almost ALWAYS works, but this one is failing. Maybe I'll just buy a new board. To bad because the phone is still beautiful.
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You could always buy a water sensor sticker off ebay and replace the one in your phone that is red then take it into sprint and just say its acting funky and you want it repl........ Wait, thats illegal, dont do that.....
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You could always buy a water sensor sticker off ebay and replace the one in your phone that is red then take it into sprint and just say its acting funky and you want it repl........ Wait, thats illegal, dont do that.....
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I had a bad experience with some half breed store breaking her old phone and trying to tell me it was water damaged. After fighting city hall and just hearing "water damage", I took it apart myself, and what do you know... NO WATER DAMAGE! The guy tried to pass it off like water broke it when HE actually did. They stood there and told me that since her (previously working) phone was now dead, the only way I was leaving the shop with a working phone was if I bought a new one. I was furious to see it not show any signs of water, and after a few more calls, I took it to a corporate store and let them take it apart. Finally, the previous notes on the account were over-ridden, and retentions sent me out a replacement for 100 dollars. Three days later, I looked at craigs and found 4 of the same phone for 100 bucks (TouchPro2) and decided insurance isn't worth it. I've never looked back, and I can still even now buy a board or a whole photon for less than the insurance charges. Just missed one on ebay for 42 bucks, but tomorrow is a new day with new auction endings.
PS, She uses sprint as a family plan. I use boost on my epic, and now at 35 bucks a month, I've never looked back from leaving sprint. They can keep their BS insurance and false hopes of 4g. They charge her an additional 10 bucks a month for a "4g device", and we've never even been able to see the icon work. A year from now, she can actually upgrade to an LTE phone when the contract runs out, but until that, ....WOW cell phone companies really suck. I don't even think I should post this.
UPDATE: So, the digitizer I bought developed a massive dead zone. I already contacted the amazon store I bought it from, they're replacing it for me. Why does this matter? Because now I get to update this post with pictures/video! So, yeah, I guess this guide should get a lot more helpful soon.
Update 2: Ok, so, I don't even know how to express my anger and frustration. This girl at work shoved my phone out of my hands and into the leg of a table, completely destroying my phone. So, yeah, sorry, I guess I won't be updating with pictures/video, because the amazon store isn't going to take the screen back now.
Yo, guys. If anyone noticed that I was gone, I'm flattered, since I don't post a lot. But yeah, I havent had my Optimus G in about a month, so I havent been on this forum. In that time, I went through my Second Motorola Atrix HD, a broken Galaxy S3, and even lived through Google Voice on my computer. It's an extremely long story, and kind of ridiculous, so I'll spare the details.
HOWEVER, I did finally just buy a replacement Digitizer and LCD screen, and successfully installed it, and I want to share tips for anyone doing it themselves.
When removing the back, after you've removed torx screws, start prying the back off from in between where the Sim card and MicroSD go. Where the back of the phone and the chassis of the phone are separate is much more obvious in that cavity, PLUS dents/dings from jamming a screwdriver in there wont be noticeable when you put the bay cover back on.
Don't force anything off. Make sure you've removed every screw, unclipped every clip, and removed ribbons from everything you're trying to take off.
Removing the battery is tricky. Be careful not to deform it too much, cause that's dangerous. But there are 2 strips of double sided tape running horizontally beneath the battery. Try to get something between the top one and the battery, then carefully pull the battery off the second strip with your hands. sticking too much stuff beneath it to pry it up is going to cause some trouble, so lifting it with your fingers might be better.
Remove the motherboard. detatch all the ribbons, antennae, everything, then pull up from the left, then slide left and out. This is how I got it out with the least resistance, but there is no science to it. If you've gotten this far, you can figure out how to pull it out without breaking it in half.
Components that need to be removed before LCD+Digitizer removal:
Motherboard
Battery
Camera
Just put them off to the side, you don't want them damaged during the next part.
WARNING! If you plan on saving your LCD screen, DO NOT DO THIS. The high heat will cook your screen and make it unusable. Only do this to remove a broken or unsavable Digitizer+LCD.
Alright, now pull out the heat gun. Alternatively, you can do what I did, and use a hair dryer. Not even kidding, this will work fine, and will be hilarious when you tell your friends about it.
On a high heat, start heating the screen. If you're using a heat gun, just do your thing, you know how it works. Hair dryer folks, keep the dryer very low to the phone, low enough to feel the dryer being pushed up by the air, holding it just high enough so it sort of hovers. (You'll know what I mean when you try it. If you don't, just keep it about half an inch off the phone.) Move the dryer along the edges of the screen, all the way around, thats where the glue is. It should heat up pretty fast.
Using your pry tool, start at the speaker grill and pry all the way around the phone. lifting just slightly upwards. If it's not extremely easy, apply more heat. Work all the way around, then pull the screen off. Be careful, it's likely you'll shatter the screen even more at this part if you're not careful. User Bozwell had an excellent suggestion (post 4), cover your screen in tape, then begin separating the screen to keep from getting glass everywhere. Great idea, Boz!
Alright, so from here on out, it's just reassembling your phone correctly. Piece o cake.
Firstly, put your new screen in. If it came with adhesive, it's up to you if you want to apply it now. I'd think you probably have to, but up to you.
If you're like me, and no adhesive was provided, hold off on doing anything for now. Just put the screen in the hole, and thread the ribbons through.
The motherboard lines up with some contacts on the chassis in a few places, but most importantly, there is a connection on the top left corner of the body, and the UNDERSIDE of the motherboard that needs to be made. I believe it's proximity sensor, but not sure. It's very difficult to tell if its attached, but look at what I'm describing, and try your best to mate them.
Don't forget ANY cables. Like, that's pretty obvious, but even when you're sure you didnt forget any, check again. The camera's ribbon is underneath the screen's, don't forget that one. I reassebled the whole thing, everything was working perfectly, except I no longer had any mobile connection. I couldn't imagine what I'd broken, since that's a whole different area, but going to phone status and checking my signal strength revealed I forgot to reconnect the white antennae (status showed my signal at -200,000 dbm). So, double check, because the more often you have to reopen your phone, the more flimsy it's going to get.
Alright, screw the plastic shielding back on, reconnect your battery, then flip the phone to be face up. Power it on, test the screen to make sure it's functional. If all is well, power off and glue the screen in. What I did, and I welcome anyone to tell me a better glue type or method, is plain ol Super glue along all the edges where the old glue was. Press it in, flip it over, and while it's drying, finish reassembling the phone (should just be make sure everything is screwed in inside, then put back glass back on.
If your screen wasn't functional, I guess try to get it replaced by whoever you bought it from, and leave your phone disassembled for when it gets to your house.
Alright, that's pretty much the thick and thin of it, it genuinely isn't that hard of a replacement. I've done a number of digitizer/lcd replacements, not bad at all. I hope this helped anyone stuck or wondering about anything. This video can be used as a rough example, but it goes really fast.
Good Luck!
replacement of lcd/digitzer
the removal was a nightmare for me. It was hilarious when the glass cracked it was exploding into a million little bitty pieces. I didnt use much heat, and there lied my problem. But yeah mine cracked in a way that it was completely unresponsive.
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the removal was a nightmare for me. It was hilarious when the glass cracked it was exploding into a million little bitty pieces. I didnt use much heat, and there lied my problem. But yeah mine cracked in a way that it was completely unresponsive.
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Haha that's crazy, it bothers me how fragile this phone seems to be.
To keep the glass shards from going everywhere try covering the screen in tape before you start.
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To keep the glass shards from going everywhere try covering the screen in tape before you start.
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Great idea, OP updated!
So, what would I do if the screen itself is ok and it's just the glass (and digitizer) that is broken?
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So, what would I do if the screen itself is ok and it's just the glass (and digitizer) that is broken?
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You'll need a real heat gun, I think. You'll have to find a heat just hot enough to soften the glue, but not cook your lcd. Hair dryer method might work if you are extremely careful and very quick, but not sure exactly what the best method would be. Sorry
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You'll need a real heat gun, I think. You'll have to find a heat just hot enough to soften the glue, but not cook your lcd. Hair dryer method might work if you are extremely careful and very quick, but not sure exactly what the best method would be. Sorry
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I figured...though I've been eye-ing using the screen+digitizer+front housing if and when they get back into stock.
(digitizer only is also out-of-stock)
Yep. On Monday I dropped my S4 in the pool and it spend a good 20 seconds underwater. It was in the deepest part of my pool and I wasn't about to jump into the cold water to get it. I have insurance and all that, so I just grabbed a net and pulled it out.
I was almost certain that this phone wouldn't be working no matter what I did. Still, I pulled the battery out the second I got it out of the water and stuck it in rice for about 24 hours. The first 10 hours or so I left it in a hot room that may have had 10% humidity, and the last 14 hours I put it in a dry, cold room.
Lo and behold this morning when I put the battery in and held the power button, it powered up! Everything works - earpiece, speaker, both mic's, notification light, proximity, IR, screen, digitizer, headphone jack, capacitive buttons/lights, home button, etc. etc. Everything works!
Pretty awesome to be honest, Wanted to gloat a bit.
Had that happen to my S3. It worked pretty good for a few days and then it would get VERY hot and battery would only last about 4 hours.
I found some corrosion on the mobo from the chlorinated pool water. Perhaps you won't have that issue but if you do, PM me and I'll let you know what drastic measure I took to fix it. I rather not put it out there to all in fear someone will do it and then blame me for any issues they have lol.
It took nothing but about $7.00 and my time.
Good luck!
video or it didn't happen.
haha jk that's awesome man!
This has inspired me to start showering with my phone.
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That's a awesome story there glad it still worked I do have a question did you have a case or no if so what?
FYI, If this happens to anyone else:
If an electronic device gets dunked in water one thing you can do is to disassemble it as far as you're comfortable doing and then re-dunk the device in distilled water. The distilled water will help remove residues left behind by tap water or pool water. Works best when said device is still wet from original dunk.
Then if you have some on hand, an electronics circuit cleaner can be sprayed liberally all over and in to displace the remaining water. The cleaning solvent will evaporate much faster and safer for the device.
Then I'd stick said device in a bag of rice in a heated room. And pray. Because more often then not it won't matter what you do the device will still be ruined.
Tried to recreate the pool drop......phone DID work fine, but screen cracked when it hit the ice. Gotta love Wisconsin!
Thats such crap! i get pulled into a pool by drunk friend with the S4 in my pocket. Wasnt even in the water for 10 seconds and my S4 never ever turned on again. I guess they are not all made equal lol
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FYI, If this happens to anyone else:
If an electronic device gets dunked in water one thing you can do is to disassemble it as far as you're comfortable doing and then re-dunk the device in distilled water. The distilled water will help remove residues left behind by tap water or pool water. Works best when said device is still wet from original dunk.
Then if you have some on hand, an electronics circuit cleaner can be sprayed liberally all over and in to displace the remaining water. The cleaning solvent will evaporate much faster and safer for the device.
Then I'd stick said device in a bag of rice in a heated room. And pray. Because more often then not it won't matter what you do the device will still be ruined.
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That sounds like it would be a good idea, using a clean water without any minerals, chemicals, etc. in it to go ahead and flush everything out. I didn't do this. I was cleaning my pool mainly because it hadn't been touched in a while and there wasn't any chlorine in the water. Usually that's bad for a pool owner, algae, but for me this time it seems to have been a blessing.
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Thats such crap! i get pulled into a pool by drunk friend with the S4 in my pocket. Wasnt even in the water for 10 seconds and my S4 never ever turned on again. I guess they are not all made equal lol
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It also depends on how well taken care of the water is. If it had a high chlorine level it can cause corrosion much faster than usual.
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That's a awesome story there glad it still worked I do have a question did you have a case or no if so what?
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Yep! I had this Cruzer-Light case on my phone at the time. It's extremely tight fitting on the device, usually peels off the back-cover whenever I take it off. I'm sure it helped because it sealed the edges along the back cover.
The water-strip underneath the battery on the phone and the strip on the battery triggered, but I didn't find any water on the SDCard or the SIM. So maybe the case helped with that a little bit.
Wow, that's amazing!
Don't know how it happened. Was raining yesterday might not have had charger cover completely closed. I don't know...but there's visible condensation covering lense. Blow dryer does nothing.
Turn it off and open all covers then put it in a jar with rice and let it be for a couple of hours.
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Don't know how it happened. Was raining yesterday might not have had charger cover completely closed. I don't know...but there's visible condensation covering lense. Blow dryer does nothing.
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check the humidity paper behind the SD cover. should be white.
If its anything other than pure white then... ouch!
Like the other member suggests... Place in a air tight jar with rice and or salt. Then place in a warm cupboard
Make sure the device is off. This will absorb moisture.
You have good advices already... Some more that might help a bit more...
Make sure the rice is fresh, in the sense that it is newly opened from an air-tight package. No good will come if the rice is old.. if only old rice available, microwave it for a while to drive moisture out.
But if you can get hold of NEW silica gels packs (those sachets that come in snacks etc to keep them crispy) it would be much better.
Also, I might suggest that you actually try to encourage water evaporation by leaving the device on, and even maybe letting it run on slightly high CPU intensity workout so that it warms the device up, all in this dry airtight environment. Leaving display on and using cpu would nicely warm up the right part of the phone, which is coincidentally around the camera module. Maybe video running on loop?
with BOTH USB AND MICROSD/SIM PORTS OPEN!
Lets hope it doesn't leave a water mark like on shower glass doors...
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You have good advices already... Some more that might help a bit more...
Make sure the rice is fresh, in the sense that it is newly opened from an air-tight package. No good will come if the rice is old.. if only old rice available, microwave it for a while to drive moisture out.
But if you can get hold of NEW silica gels packs (those sachets that come in snacks etc to keep them crispy) it would be much better.
Also, I might suggest that you actually try to encourage water evaporation by leaving the device on, and even maybe letting it run on slightly high CPU intensity workout so that it warms the device up, all in this dry airtight environment. Leaving display on and using cpu would nicely warm up the right part of the phone, which is coincidentally around the camera module. Maybe video running on loop?
with BOTH USB AND MICROSD/SIM PORTS OPEN!
Lets hope it doesn't leave a water mark like on shower glass doors...
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Only problem with having the device on and hot, is that evaporating the water will leave hard material behind. Like calcium and lime (what ever trace elements were in the water) This can cause issues later on.
it doesn't matter if it is evaporating fast or slow, it will still leave any solubles behind. You might be lucky in that the water that got there may have been vapour to start with