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Let me first state that I AM NOT decrying the needs of Athena owners, nor am I suggesting they shouldn't own one. Everyone has different devices to fit different needs, HOWEVER in the course of heated debate on these forums people have frequently stated that their Athena is MORE THAN CAPABLE of playing video, without optimisation which neither skips, jumps or loses sync. I owned two and over the course of nearly nine months NEVER managed to get a high quality, non-optimised video to display solidly without losing sync.
What I ask is for people to describe a high quality (700mb+) Divx or Xvid file that their Athena can play fluidly and without losing sync, and for the sake of credibility upload a video of this in action. When I get chance later today I will upload a video of an N95 playing a full-size divx movie - I will demonstrate the video size and specifics, show the device playing it whilst multitasking and demonstrate fast-forwarding, pausing and playing and how this affects lip-sync and general playback quality.
Let me re-iterate that I understand that the N95 is not a competitor to the Athena and that for the most part it is unsuited to the needs of people on these forums; but if you're going to state that your video performance is good I'd appreciate if you could prove it! It is after all a powerful machine with loads more RAM and processing power than the humble N95.
Just a bit of fun.
EDIT: DISREGARD THE 'BUT DISAPPOINTING' ASPECT OF THE 3RD QUESTION WHEN VOTING AS I WILL ADMIT IT SOUNDS BIASED
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Here we go again and this time i didnt start it
Voted for second option, "can play most things well". I'll try and demonstrate that tonight, hopefully.
hey i think i've been very fair with my questions
Well... Didn't want to point it out, but in all fairness, the "but disappointing" should be removed or brought to the option below.
For one can find the Athena's video performance average and NOT be disappointed...
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Well... Didn't want to point it out, but in all fairness, the "but disappointing" should be removed or brought to the option below.
For one can find the Athena's video performance average and NOT be disappointed...
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Fair point. If you can tell me how to remove the 'but disappointing' bit from the poll I will, otherwise we'll imagine the 'but disappointing' bit doesn't exist for the purposes of the poll...
Here's my video. If it's out of sync please report as I've had this problem before and didn't have chance to check the upload before I left the house. Cheers.
I can't say that I'm impressed by the video performance of the athena because it's my largest problem eversince I got it last week especially in 128 dpi settings. I'm neither in the position to say that I'm disappointed also because I really haven't had the chance to play with it that long. I would have to vote later. I appreciate though these types of threads because it forces people to look for ways to either extend their capabilities in trying to know and teach what they can do with their athena to prove that it's a really good machine or to simply shoot down the opinion of others. Suffice it to say that it may bring out the best of the athena or bring it down to te gutter. The best part is that people get to choose base on their best judgement who to believe and which opinion to discard.
Any performance videos yet?
I genuinely would like to know if the claims about video performance being good are true, I'm not trying to catch anyone out
Sorry, I did'nt see the word UNCONVERTED and picked A. I guess it should have been a B. But why would anybody play it unconverted? The files are just far too big unconverted, isn't it? Also, it would carry so much useless information designed for home theatre systems at least, that it would literally chock any small device movie player to dealth. What I do play include a 900MB movie which is crystal clear, does not skip at all, and never have any out of sync problem. But I'm not sure if it has gone through conversion, as I downloaded it from the net.
If I want a home theatre movie quality experience, I'd not use Athena to do it. I'll use my home theatre system.
Would you play movies unconverted on say a viewty or N95?
Midget, could you transfer my vote from A to B?
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If I want a home theatre movie quality experience, I'd not use Athena to do it. I'll use my home theatre system.
Would you play movies unconverted on say a viewty or N95?
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quite to the point ha?
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Sorry, I did'nt see the word UNCONVERTED and picked A. I guess it should have been a B. But why would anybody play it unconverted? The files are just far too big unconverted, isn't it? Also, it would carry so much useless information designed for home theatre systems at least, that it would literally chock any small device movie player to dealth. What I do play include a 900MB movie which is crystal clear, does not skip at all, and never have any out of sync problem. But I'm not sure if it has gone through conversion, as I downloaded it from the net.
If I want a home theatre movie quality experience, I'd not use Athena to do it. I'll use my home theatre system.
Would you play movies unconverted on say a viewty or N95?
Midget, could you transfer my vote from A to B?
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My wording is a little off-kilter. When I say 'unconverted' I mean 'not specifically optimised for the device' I.E. the sort of file you'd download/play on your desktop. Sorry for the equivocal wordage peeps!
I never convert any movies that I download, so that qualifies as unconverted then?
I hav to jump in here. The resolution or aspect ratio of your movie file along with the audio coding was low. If I had those settings on a movie and played on the Athena, it would be no problem. I convert almost all my movies using DVD Catalyst and I ensure it is at 30 fps, audio is at 192, the max I can get it and the picture adjustment is at 1100. I have very few problems when I play those on my athena. If I could get the file you have I would love to cross compare, because that video shouldn't choke the Athena at all. At least in my experience using core player.
Then again, this is just my two cents.
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I never convert any movies that I download, so that qualifies as unconverted then?
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yes it does! when you get chance to upload a video showing the quality please do. I'm suprised if your Athena can handle them without either displaying linear patterns during fast scenes, losing sync or stopping and starting. If it can then I will capitulate and say you are a lucky so-and-so!
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I hav to jump in here. The resolution or aspect ratio of your movie file along with the audio coding was low. If I had those settings on a movie and played on the Athena, it would be no problem. I convert almost all my movies using DVD Catalyst and I ensure it is at 30 fps, audio is at 192, the max I can get it and the picture adjustment is at 1100. I have very few problems when I play those on my athena. If I could get the file you have I would love to cross compare, because that video shouldn't choke the Athena at all. At least in my experience using core player.
Then again, this is just my two cents.
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i chose that video because it is one i had problems with on my athena.
EVERYONE TRY THIS SHORT VIDEO AND REPORT BACK ON THE PLAYBACK QUALITY. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE A STANDARD FILE TO TEST OUT THAT'S SMALL ENOUGH TO UPLOAD. It's just a video of my dog recorded on my N95 at tv quality. It is a 640 by 480 resolution video which should be a good ratio for the Athena. I haven't modified it in any way. Let me know what results you all get.
Cheers
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yes it does! when you get chance to upload a video showing the quality please do. I'm suprised if your Athena can handle them without either displaying linear patterns during fast scenes, losing sync or stopping and starting. If it can then I will capitulate and say you are a lucky so-and-so!
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In that case, I'd keep my A rating for the time being because until now I still don't understnad the issue.
I'd test your sample file and provide feedback. There must be something that I've missed I guess. Yes, perhaps I have been real lucky.
I've downloaded it to my desktop runing Vista and want to try it here first. But could'nt play it media player. Do you need to convert it before it can play there too? What program do you use to play it on desktop?
On my device, it says "MPEC4 AAC Audio Decoder not included! It was removed from the official install package because of intellectual property considerations." (strange. I never had this error before)
Is this the kind of problem you're referring to Leoni?
Oh wait, although it has the above error message, the video plays perfectly! I get very sharp image. The camera itself jerks a bit I think during shooting but the playback is smooth.
No sound though. Is there supposed to be sound?
Cute little doggy! Is that your dog?
So, to sum up, for me. It works without conversion on my Athena but not on my Vista desktop.
The issue is that Video playback is an issue with the Athena (and other devices) yet some people insist theirs work fine. If there is no problem then I wonder why threads like this this this this and this among many others exist? (oh, and this!)
Many moons ago I thought I'd solved the problem bu it must've been a lucky video file as a couple of days later I tried a different downloaded movie and back I was to the 'flickery' pictures and loss of sync.
I just wish there was an answer that worked for everyone.
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I've downloaded it to my desktop runing Vista and want to try it here first. But could'nt play it media player. Do you need to convert it before it can play there too? What program do you use to play it on desktop?
On my device, it says "MPEC4 AAC Audio Decoder not included! It was removed from the official install package because of intellectual property considerations."
Is this the kind of problem you're referring to Leoni?
Oh wait, although it has the above error message, the video plays perfectly! I get very sharp image. The camera itself jerks a bit I think during shooting but the playout is smooth.
No sound though. Is there supposed to be sound?
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Yes it's my doggywoggy. I use VLC. It's freeware - try it on that to give you an idea of how it should look. The TCPMP extras you need for playback of that file are in PK's extras package just in case you want to get em.
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I have and love a Kaiser. Right now I have a Dutty Rom on it and love it as I commute, on a train, about 3 hours a day.
Anyway, I made a bet (6 pack of beer) that I can use an Athena for a week instead of the Kaiser. [We have one that sits unused in our office]. I have the Black Rom on it and wasn't overly excited when I made the change.
What should I install to ease my life and win my bet?
Use TCMP for videos, the Athena has a nice big screen. Both the NetFront pre release and Opera leaked alphas are good for browsing the internet. I would recommend using RealVGA if you would like to really utilize the large screen, 96 DPI is awesome. Compared to the Kaiser the Athena has a bigger screen, more storage and at least on paper a faster processor. I personally use a software keyboard and ditch the magnetic one to reduce to size of the Athena.
does the RealVGA thing work on the kaiser also?
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does the RealVGA thing work on the kaiser also?
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No, Kaiser isn't a VGA device and if it were, the 400MHz Qualcom would struggle. It would probably be dog slow.
what a stupid bet
Well ok, I no longer have an Athena and I got rid of my TyTn 2 after a week so perhaps it's not my place to comment..
BUT WHAT THE HELL KIND OF BET IS THIS????
Fine, the Athena is a bit big, but what the hell is your problem with applications? IT'S THE SAME OPERATING SYSTEM so it shouldn't be much of a hardship unless you're an absolute doink.
Perhaps a better challenge might have been to live with a Motorola StarTAC for a week....or even a Nokia 6210.
Tsk.
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Well ok, I no longer have an Athena and I got rid of my TyTn 2 after a week so perhaps it's not my place to comment..
BUT WHAT THE HELL KIND OF BET IS THIS????
Fine, the Athena is a bit big, but what the hell is your problem with applications? IT'S THE SAME OPERATING SYSTEM so it shouldn't be much of a hardship unless you're an absolute doink.
Perhaps a better challenge might have been to live with a Motorola StarTAC for a week....or even a Nokia 6210.
Tsk.
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I was thinking the same thing as you, but in less words. Anyway Leoni when are you going to come back on the "wm" side of the world, i'm sure you miss the touch screen. Symbian...tsktsk! lol
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I was thinking the same thing as you, but in less words. Anyway Leoni when are you going to come back on the "wm" side of the world, i'm sure you miss the touch screen. Symbian...tsktsk! lol
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Hmmmm not so sure. Maligned as it might be I can't help but love the old N95 classic. I've got an 8gb card for it and it's the most satisfying phone I've ever used....still. it even has embedded flash support and an accelerometer so the screen rotates automatically when i turn the phone.
Unfortunately there's nothing in the Windows Mobile world to touch it yet - I'm very much a multimedia guy and there's nothing comes close to the carl zeiss optics of the N95, the 30fps video, the flash support, the hardware acceleration, the huge array of multimedia applications and (finally) proper GPS support with Garmin XT or Route66.
The nearest phone to the N95 in the windows mobile world is probably the TyTn 2 and i'll never go back to that again:it's an inferior toy in comparison.
I'd wager a bet you can't list five things i'd do on a Kaser that I can't do on an N95 (aside from the obvious outlook calender issue which is not an issue for someone like me who doesn't use outlook)
one day i'll be back though no doubt.
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. . . I made a bet (6 pack of beer) that I can use an Athena for a week instead of the Kaiser . . .I have the Black Rom on it and wasn't overly excited . . . What should I install to ease my life and win my bet?
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leoni1980 maybe you could be more specific. What do you do with your Kaiser and why do you like it? Why weren't you happy with the black rom on the Athena? Why is there an expectation of hardship/w Athena?
You said that there was a train commute. So . . .your thinking entertainment? To "ease your life,"; since we know nothing about you or your life that's a hard one. Don't you think?
In general: Windows mobile devices are all-in-one mobile devices that do alot of things ok/good. In my opinion, they rarely do anything specificly the best. Read e-books--likely the kindle does it better. Listen to music--buy an ipod. Surf the net--desktop or laptops are more powerful. And so on.
So you need to figure what it is you like to do. Then evaluate whether windows mobile fits your needs. Then tweak the Athena in that direction with hardware and/or software.
Seems alot of work for one week.
If I had a three hour commute, I'd surf the one-day deal sites, & winmobile/news sites. I'd read e-books, listen to music and do writing. Maybe listen to sleepy music/set my alarm and take a nap. I don't even use the phone side, rarely watch movies,have no use for a pim.
Another guy would want to chat on the phone, and watch tv. Still another guy would want to sms, play games . . .
Keep track of your time, finances, diet, movie collection, appointments . . . Facebook, chatrooms, twitter, look at porn, read the Bible . . .
I mean . . . you can do all kinds of things.
Hi,
Thinking of buying a hero...
Is it possible to play full size movie AVIs (700Mb, etc) without lag, without having to resize them to a smaller resolution?
I find that resizing them is such a hassle. Currently using a touch dual, and when that was initially released I couldnt play it unless resized. Felt pretty ripped off. Only when upgrade to wm6.5 came out, I could play em. My old HTC Magician handled them much better.
Anyway... just wanted to ask if anyone has tried it... before I buy another dud phone.
Thanks!
Surely I can't be the only person who cares about watching movies on my phone while travelling?
I am sure you are not, but most people resize them.....
not tried anything on the hero yet, as i only got mine yesterday, and wasn't goping to buy any apps for the one i borrowed from work!
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Is it possible to play full size movie AVIs (700Mb, etc)
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AVI is a container and not a codec.
Like all mobile devices (correct me if I'm wrong), there is no h264 b-frame support. Transcoding is your friend. How hard is it to transcode all movies in a directory; Thats just one command line away, geez.
yeah its just one more thing needed to do.
each to their own i guess... but I'm the sort of person who likes to take as little steps / effort as possible to do something. ie searching for a contact and calling them... i'd like to know that I can call them with a few keypresses and done... rather than having to search through a whole list of names and finding the contact.
Also, I prefer to be able to keep files in the format I got them so I can transfer them to another machine if I need to, rather than have a resized file that is only of use to the phone.
Not too sure about the terminology (h264 b frame support) you used, but I had no trouble playing full sized rips on my HTC Magician from 5 years ago. But had trouble with the HTC Nike initially until one year later when I upgraded it to WM6.1.
Anyway, if anyone has had the chance to try it out... let me know thanks =)
I have resized and played on the hero with no issues. I have seen that in a review that it could skip if not resized. I would resize to the heros resolution
It might work better if the aspect ratio is the same, but by the time you do that you could be resizing.
What player are you using?
Thanks
I had some issues getting it to recognise some media formats, but got around by using ImTOO encoding software and used one of the preset profiles which recoded and resized to 320x480.
use handbrake, its so easy.
Second for handbrake. As far as I can tell from my testing, it doesn't like DivX files. It does like MP4 files, with meridian especially. A two hour file took about 20 minutes to transcode straight to the Hero, on my not-particularly amazing tri-core 3ghz phenom. Quality was excellent.
I'd say queue up a list in Handbrake and leave it running overnight.
I used to use fullsize avi's on my diamond but as yet I've not found a decent player on android so I've made the switch to converting to avi's at a fairly large picture size (I forget the exact ratio) & it plays fine in the native video player.
A bit bummed that I have to convert them but it works I guess
Anyone heard if Corecodec are planning to make an android version of Coreplayer? If that's on it's way, it would likely be the first thing i buy from the market....!
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Anyone heard if Corecodec are planning to make an android version of Coreplayer? If that's on it's way, it would likely be the first thing i buy from the market....!
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I'm with you on that
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Anyone heard if Corecodec are planning to make an android version of Coreplayer? If that's on it's way, it would likely be the first thing i buy from the market....!
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Been looking into that too...
Seems like they intend to, but are hindered by things out of their control (lack of Qualcomm drivers from HTC). Sounds like the same issue with my HTC Touch Dual when I initially got it.
From their forum...
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1327&hilit=android
Hopefully wont be too long before
Hi.
I have been offered a TG01 as a DMR for the Touch HD
I know little about the TG01.. so I would like input from your guys.
Anyone gone from a Touch HD to one?
Does it support Line 1 / Line 2?
Upgrade is avail to official 6.5
How are the cooked roms performing?
How does Tomtom behave with the acceleromter?
Performance?
Playback?
DLNA?
Network playback?
Built in Divx handling?
I also hear that you can plug in a USB stick and have that readable from the phone? if so, can you playback video from it?
Any info on this phone would be good...
Thanks Guys
Singh
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Hi.
I have been offered a TG01 as a DMR for the Touch HD
I know little about the TG01.. so I would like input from your guys.
Anyone gone from a Touch HD to one?
Does it support Line 1 / Line 2?
Upgrade is avail to official 6.5
How are the cooked roms performing?
How does Tomtom behave with the acceleromter?
Performance?
Playback?
DLNA?
Network playback?
Built in Divx handling?
I also hear that you can plug in a USB stick and have that readable from the phone? if so, can you playback video from it?
Any info on this phone would be good...
Thanks Guys
Singh
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Anyone gone from a Touch HD to one?
i went from diamond to tg01, good change
Does it support Line 1 / Line 2?
if you mean 2 sim cards then no, if you mean 2 numbers on one sim card, im not sure
Upgrade is avail to official 6.5?
yep, through toshiba website but try the cooked roms for a the newest build of 6.5.5 (much better performance and features and less ugly
How are the cooked roms performing?
as above, there doing really well, nokser is working on a project with lesscro for a truly nice looking rom, aragon has got some nice roms out with manilla sense for the 'oooh' factor and no doubt, many others will be popping up
How does Tomtom behave with the acceleromter?
wouldnt know but it works with the built-in gps if you use gpsgate with it. do a search for it
Performance?
its a 1ghz phone! its nippy, but not on the stock rom, to much bloat for it. i highly suggest using aragons 6.5.5 rom with manilla to see the best performance/stability. and games are brilliant on the massive screen
Playback?
i have watched whole films in divx and xvid with coreplayer and it has the best performance, hardly any dropped frames and it plays back silky smooth
audio is good with aragons rom, not so good on stock rom
DLNA?
no it cant sequence dna?
Network playback?
if you mena local play then im not sure as i have not used that feature, but online play is fine, youtube is a treat
Built in Divx handling?
yes but its through coreplayer, it hasnt got a dedicated divx app. it wil lplay most audio and video codecs available, and for the ones it misses, you can just install them.
and yes, you can plug in a usb stick and use it to watch films from, but this will kill your battery. you can also plug in a keyboard and mouse, other phones as mass storage devices, on youtube they have a tg01 being used as a babyscan machine ( i forget what there called) with a usb wand
its a kick ass little (lol) phone
im quite interested in this as i am getting a new handset offered to me on saturday when phone them back up and tell them my phone is messing me around again. i have a tg01 so it would be interesting to see what they offer me? any thoughts?
Thanks...
I think i need to know people who have moved from a HD to this... or what would a HD owner do>?
Would you move to a TG01 if your HD was buggered,
PS... If you have a fault on your HD right now with Orange.. they are out of stock...so they give you a TG01
The TG01 has the same spec has the HTC HD2, just the screen is resistive and .2 of an inch smaller (it is still pretty huge at 4.1").
Ive used the memory stick with it and you can play video using it, but you then cant use headphones as it doesnt have a 3.5mm jack. It needs the adaptor for the micro usb port. It is supplied with an 8GB microSD card anyway, so you can store quite a few on there.
Also custom ROMs can now be flashed to the TG01, Im personally running Novembres R2 6.5.5 ROM with SPB Mobile Shell on top and it is quick as hell. I would say go for it mate!
Say no to tg.
Till date am using tg01, flashed as many roms possible but am not satisfied with this piece, stay away go ffor x10 or hd2 or blacckstone. tg01 is a flop be careful. supposed to get lainched in india but didnt work ouut. wait u will get iphone 4g by another two months.
I did, the phone is a pile of you know what, I'm getting my 3rd one tomorrow, keyboards are unresponsive when texting, the speaker distorts when in a call, Not happy, stay away...
I was given a TG01 as a replacement for my ailing TouchHD (BlackStone). There are *always* advantages and disadvantages to ANY handset you might choose, so research and see which is best FOR YOU.
For me - it was really 50/50 - advantages of big screen, fast CPU etc, were put off by terrible battery life, and awful stock ROM.
The poster who writes about awful audio quality, this is greatly improved in newer ROMs, although, honestly, it's still not impressive, and I think this is a limitation of the audio hardware (speaker and amp) built in.
The biggest two negative issues for me were battery life, and the single micro-USB plug for EVERYTHING. Others say it's too thin and too big - it does feel somewhat like it will snap if you inadvertently leave it in your back pocket.
Do I regret handing in my TouchHD, to get a TG01? No. I think it was a good move, and with all the cooked ROMs coming up now, thanks to all the guys working on them, I think the TG01 is about ready for a rebirth.
To concede with another poster though, to get the best from it, as it stands NOW, you'd need to be looking at one of the 6.5.5 ROMs available.
As a final aside, if you search around on here, you'll see that the 8GB MicroSD that Tosh send with the handset is, quite literally, TOSH. It's useless, and causes many problems. If I were you, I'd keep the one from your Touch HD. I did!!
Ok - that wasn't the FINAL aside - this one is: if Orange send you the TG01 as a replacement for your faulty TouchHD, you will only get it in a little bag. You will get the essential accessories (USB Cable, USB Host, Charger, Stylus, CD) - but you do NOT get any retail packaging.
Right, I'm done.
I have been away form the android development for a while now as it didnt have the ability to view movies in it nor was there a tv-out. I was wondering if any of the more recent builds have addressed this? I am having a heck of a time finding it via thread search.
Nope, I don't think anyone got TV out working. There were always bigger fish to fry, and with the userbase not really clamoring for it... No dev ever worked on it.
All our code is open source, so anyone can pickup where we left off. I'd say the project is pretty much done tho.
Wait, the Rhodium has TV-Out hardware? I didn't even know it could do that in WinMo! That's... actually kinda cool, although with as dinky as its CPU is I'm not sure just how useful it would be anyway -- who wants to play a 240p YouTube video on a big TV?
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Wait, the Rhodium has TV-Out hardware? I didn't even know it could do that in WinMo! That's... actually kinda cool, although with as dinky as its CPU is I'm not sure just how useful it would be anyway -- who wants to play a 240p YouTube video on a big TV?
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It requires an additional dongle, which should have been provided if you got the phone brand new.
I've never used it - I can't imagine videos are a pleasant thing. Perhaps a presentation or pic slideshow would be cool tho.
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It requires an additional dongle, which should have been provided if you got the phone brand new.
I've never used it - I can't imagine videos are a pleasant thing. Perhaps a presentation or pic slideshow would be cool tho.
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I have used it and it is actually quite awesome! I have watched full size divx movies using TCPMP/Core both at home on 46" HD (just to test it) and at various hotels/resorts (cause I always have some new movies ready anytime I fly) and the quality is perfect! To my eye the rhods screen and the attached monitor are pixel for pixel identical. HQ youtube looks fantastic, the same as my HTPC playing youtube in 480p. Haven't tried powerpoint yet but the picture slideshow is kinda cool too.
This is just another reason that I love haret/SD builds from XDAndroid. This is a function that I do not use 99% of the time but it IS there when I need it. That and offline GPS are the 2 big ones that keep me attached to WM (and my BT ODBII scanner I guess, but I have a feeling I COULD get this rockin' in android...if I wanted to put in the time )
EDIT: LOL. ODBII = OBDII... Every damn time!! I blame Old Dirty Bastard
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I have used it and it is actually quite awesome! I have watched full size divx movies using TCPMP/Core both at home on 46" HD (just to test it) and at various hotels/resorts (cause I always have some new movies ready anytime I fly) and the quality is perfect! To my eye the rhods screen and the attached monitor are pixel for pixel identical. HQ youtube looks fantastic, the same as my HTPC playing youtube in 480p. Haven't tried powerpoint yet but the picture slideshow is kinda cool too.
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Pixel for pixel, gawd I hope not. 480x800 on an HD screen would probably look AWFUL.
Does it at least put it in a respectable aspect ratio...?
Really surprised anyone actually uses this, haha. I guess some dev can still pick it up? Has anyone even tried the TV Out in Android? Seriously doubt it works, just curious.
lol, yeah it outputs in VGA only. So you have to set your monitor either to have black bars on the sides or zoom(which is perfect for widescreen movies). I watch all my movies at home streaming using the divx web player so I am used to 480p on my HDTV(they may be a little smoother looking on the HTPC since its outputting 720p). These movies look pretty good to me(tho HD mkv changes everything). And free increases the resolution ten fold!!
Anyway, back on topic... I have never tried in GBX because I do not use an official cable for TV-Out and because of this I have to "trick" WM by changing the registry so that it will recognize my cable as a TV-Out and not just a headset as it senses automatically. It actually has to change the function of the pins of the mini usb and thus the headphone jack of the multifunction dongle. The sheer hackiness of the solution in WM tells me that there is no way in hell that it will work for me in android with my current hardware.
And, to be honest I don't really want it in android. Lets face it, without external power you could probably watch like one TV episode before the battery crapped out(okay, a bit of an exaggeration, I know, but you know what I mean).
EDIT: Even more off topic but I can't resist. I have ordered a usb OTG cable from hong kong for a buck and once I get it my next experiment will be trying to play a movie using TV-Out, off of an external hard drive, hopefully while on external power.
As long as there are still new things to try on my rhod I can put off getting a new phone... but I am running out fast!
Caldair said:
And, to be honest I don't really want it in android. Lets face it, without external power you could probably watch like one TV episode before the battery crapped out(okay, a bit of an exaggeration, I know, but you know what I mean).
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Either you haven't tried OMGB, or you're just not aware...
But that build gets as good if not better battery life than WinMo. Thanks to ACL's amazing work reversing the batt driver for WinMo...
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Either you haven't tried OMGB, or you're just not aware...
But that build gets as good if not better battery life than WinMo. Thanks to ACL's amazing work reversing the batt driver for WinMo...
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As good as winmo eh (or even better no less)... That would be something...
Yes I am aware of it, but you are right, I haven't tried it yet. I do see a lot of good things about the battery life, but I am still too fond of WM to call it quits... i know, i know, probably time to "embrace change"!
I actually get great battery life from you guys GBX (I have hacked the crap out of it). I go easily all day and night doing everything and more than in WM. I love them both!
I actually have never tried to watch divx (or anything else for that matter) on android. Have you arrrghhh?[EDIT: or anyone else?] Any experience with watching local video files on the rhodium running any build? Do you need any app?
I am curious now?
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I have been away form the android development for a while now as it didnt have the ability to view movies in it nor was there a tv-out. I was wondering if any of the more recent builds have addressed this? I am having a heck of a time finding it via thread search.
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I can now answer half of your question: You definitely have the ability to watch movies on the rhod running android.
I have just installed MX player from the market and am about 20 mins into a 700mb divx movie on GBX0C with kernel 3.4. So far it is playing very well (much better than I expected, especially with no OC!).
MX installed no prob, then when I started it up it said something like "no codec installed. Install from market?" clicked yes, market comes up with Codec for MX Player (armv6), install that then play movie on card. Great!
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I can now answer half of your question: You definitely have the ability to watch movies on the rhod running android.
I have just installed MX player from the market and am about 20 mins into a 700mb divx movie on GBX0C with kernel 3.4. So far it is playing very well (much better than I expected, especially with no OC!).
MX installed no prob, then when I started it up it said something like "no codec installed. Install from market?" clicked yes, market comes up with Codec for MX Player (armv6), install that then play movie on card. Great!
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i can tell you that OMGB rom does not have a tv-out or at least my phone dont recognize the tv-out cable and flat screen to "see" my phone either. i have one of those tv-out HTC Multimedia ACT100 TV Out Cable for HTC Fuze/Touch Pro cables. works in winmo not on android. but i havent tried any special apps either.
speaking on the quality of the output video in Winmo when put on a TV. It has a lot to do with the file your playing obviously. I carry the same sentiment previously mentioned the RCA out and the offline GPS (tomtom) are what keeps me attached to my Phone.
I use the TV out nearly every day I hook it up to the Gym TV to do insanity or P90X, and listen to the audio via BT headset (I already looks like a fool jumping around I don't need to cause more displeasure on people making them endure Tony Horton or Shawn T). The video shows up not perfect, but I have super compressed files, its good enough to tell what the exercise is and how much time is left)
This setup would be perfect If core player (.mp4 files) would accept AVRCP inputs on the rhodium but that is where my perfect setup falls short. I suppose rather then viewing new phones I could purchase a 32gb sd card and just get different file formats of the videos.
Thank you all for the input, ill live with what i have for now, great work to all the devs as far as they took this project.
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I actually have never tried to watch divx (or anything else for that matter) on android. Have you arrrghhh?[EDIT: or anyone else?] Any experience with watching local video files on the rhodium running any build? Do you need any app?
I am curious now?
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I have tried four free divx players on the Google Play Market on my Rhodium running GB0X. The best performance I found was with Seaman Player, I think that is what it was. MX was sketchy for me, and none of them play as sharply as watching the same files in CorePlayer in WinMo.
To keep from getting to far OT, I have the dongle and it works great in WinMo, but given the playback performance on the built-in screen my hopes are not high that we would have good results on TV-out.