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After finding out my internal storage available space was getting low much faster than it should, I deleted the cache from google maps, opera (and moved its location to the storage card), but I can't find a way to move the cache from the HTC Album.
It takes around 30Mb on my device, and if I delete it, it'll just get back to that size in a few days.
I know I can just delete it every time it's too big, but I'm guessing it makes the albums loading faster, so if it's possible, I'd prefer not to delete it, but to move it to the storage card instead.
Is it possible to change the default location of the cache?
Thanks
This would be good, I too ended up wondering where all my space had gone only to find the HTC ALBUM cache folder taking up 20MB
Ditto^^
I find it strange because this would ultimately lead to a completely occupied memory over time (given you take enough pictures). You'd think they thought about that...
I can't seem to find anything about this, and after looking at the registry, I didn't find any key that seems to control this either.
Is there so few people bothered by this?
i am as bothered as you (and running with very few storage left), and wait for a solution. Putting the cache not on the storage card was quite dumb from HTC given the very limited storage. Unfortunately, I am a solution leecher, not a seeder.
Mithrandir007 said:
After finding out my internal storage available space was getting low much faster than it should, I deleted the cache from google maps, opera (and moved its location to the storage card), but I can't find a way to move the cache from the HTC Album.
It takes around 30Mb on my device, and if I delete it, it'll just get back to that size in a few days.
I know I can just delete it every time it's too big, but I'm guessing it makes the albums loading faster, so if it's possible, I'd prefer not to delete it, but to move it to the storage card instead.
Is it possible to change the default location of the cache?
Thanks
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Sorry, probably a noob question but how did you do it for Opera ?
Thanks in advance
It's in the camera settings. Start the camera; select the strange box on the bottom left with an arrow on the side; hit the "settings" wheel - looks like a cart wheel; then you should have a big box in the middle of the screen with settings options; now select the lower left hand box labelled "storage". When you have the "storage" option with the picture of a SD card then that's where the photos will go.
Cheesy Dave said:
It's in the camera settings. Start the camera; select the strange box on the bottom left with an arrow on the side; hit the "settings" wheel - looks like a cart wheel; then you should have a big box in the middle of the screen with settings options; now select the lower left hand box labelled "storage". When you have the "storage" option with the picture of a SD card then that's where the photos will go.
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That's not the album cache - that's the camera storage location
alexd83 said:
Sorry, probably a noob question but how did you do it for Opera ?
Thanks in advance
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For Opera, it's not too hard.
Open Opera, and type "opera:config" in the address bar.
You'll then be in the config page, find the section "User Prefs".
In there, you should find something called "Cache Directory4". Just change that path to any directory in your storage card (for example : "\Storage Card\OperaCache").
Cheesy Dave : Thanks for the answer, but as johncmolyneux said, it's the cache I'd like to move to the storage card (which contains the thumbnails of your images along with other information).
The pictures are already going to the storage card.
Thanks for the reply !
Hi, whoops - sorry I misunderstood the question. Now where is the cache kept ?
I did think the question was simple; but, I thought it might help to explain the settings in the camera.
Confession: I've no idea where the cache is kept. Must explore ...
It's kept in \Application Data\HTC\HTC Album\Cache\ in the internal storage.
Mithrandir007 said:
It's kept in \Application Data\HTC\HTC Album\Cache\ in the internal storage.
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And how to change it so it goes to another direction?
Filipek88 said:
And how to change it so it goes to another direction?
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OMG.................................... wasn't that the question of this thread???
mouki_9 said:
OMG.................................... wasn't that the question of this thread???
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LoL
A bit off topic; but the same cache problem applies to the google maps and youtube applications. Offcourse we could always empty the cachefolders manually now and then, but I would still like some kind of tweak to solve this problem.
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I wish I knew
Concerning Youtube I don't know how to do it, but for Google Maps, if you get a new version of Google Maps and chose to install it on the storage card, it will put the cache on the storage card as well.
this came to my attention last night when my phone totally ran out of storage when i wasn't actually storing anything on it. i had about 50 mp3's and 10 pictures but all on the storage card. as i didn't know what to do i reverted to clearing the storage which essentially reset it.
i cant believe this problem isn't topping the forum its a massive issue for me. i monitored the storage during a web browsing session this morning. i lost about 10meg of storage in 20 mins and this wasn't cleared when i ended the session. what i dont understand is opera is set to have a 4 meg cache limit. even if someone works out how to transfer all the cache files to the sd card it wont really help as it will eventually fill that up. is i did very little with my phone in the 1st week of owning it other than surf im fairly sure it must have nearly all been browser cache. 130mb of it1! so in fairly sure it will just keep munching and munching storage.
i now have a very tough decision to make i love this phone but i have 24 hours to send it back to o2 and swap it for something else. whats everyones opinions is this likely to get fixed and how long will it take? or should i give up and get an isheep?
Surely htc could just add an option in settings to empty all cache, or auto empty
@jimsteach
A few posts back up this thread there are instructions for moving the Opera cache to the SD Card - it's pretty much an essential in my book given the storage situation on the device.
I too have trawled the registry trying to find where the Album cache is set, but it looks like HTC have modified the architecture and/or use of the registry in building Sense. I'd also love to be able to move mail to the SD Card, but the normal tweak doesn't work for that either.
The location of album cache seems to be hardcoded in HTCAlbum.exe. The Unicode string "\Application Data\HTC\HTC ALBUM\Cache" occurs 7 times when searching in the file with a hex editor. This weekend I will try to modify HTCAlbum.exe and insert a location to storage card.
What puzzles me most is the size album cache can grow to, it seems almost unlimited. I mean, I have never seen any complaints with other devices. The only reg key I found is "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCAlbum:cache_serial". Does anyone know what this does?
And another key: "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\SDMemory\FATFS:EnableCache"
Anyone?
Is there ANY way to increase Device storage on HD 2 (Windows 6.5), and not to hard reset the phone after that? I really love apps, and I've installed pretty much all the neat cabs that I've found among tips and tweaks here (and elsewhere too), and when it was possible - I've installed them on storage card, but some of them doesn't work that way, so I had to install them on Device...And add to that bunch of programs as Freda, BsB, Cookie Home Tab and Editor, SlovoEd Dictionary etc....And, I've already taken care that all of my music, videos and pictures are placed in SD, My documents. But, whatever I do, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MEMORY ON MY DEVICE STORAGE ((((((((( !!!!!And it's always critical...HELP ((please.....
you need to clear the cache memory of opera , HTC ablum ..... etc ...
Use the Clear temp .... it takes care of all this temp memory ...
I too had same problem .... its so buggin with no storage memory space in the device ...
Since I am not able to post outside link ..... ask the same question in facebook ,,, in HD2Apps link ...
Thanks for the advice! I've found Cleartemp, installed it, and cleared junk...gain about 7MB of space :/ :S (OMG, I'm going to kill myself)...and just found out that the international HD2 (the one I have) has only 448MB of RAM, and 512 ROM, that can't be increased ... While USA Version has 576MB of RAM, and 1GB ROM which is much more cheerful..And what's the point of my SD 16 GB (with 6 GB of free space), when my phone isn't working properly with critically low Device memory...Now, that's sad ....
ivona7 said:
Thanks for the advice! I've found Cleartemp, installed it, and cleared junk...gain about 7MB of space :/ :S (OMG, I'm going to kill myself)...and just found out that the international HD2 (the one I have) has only 448MB of RAM, and 512 ROM, that can't be increased ... While USA Version has 576MB of RAM, and 1GB ROM which is much more cheerful..And what's the point of my SD 16 GB (with 6 GB of free space), when my phone isn't working properly with critically low Device memory...Now, that's sad ....
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don't get depressed, you can install most of the apps to the storage card (and keep in device memory only the system ones, as e.g. cookies home tab etc.), then search xda forums for tweaks to move internet explorer and opera cache files to storage card, use clearttemp from time to time (or invest in MemMaid), and you should not lack memory any more
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Is there ANY way to increase Device storage on HD 2 (Windows 6.5), and not to hard reset the phone after that? I really love apps, and I've installed pretty much all the neat cabs that I've found among tips and tweaks here (and elsewhere too), and when it was possible - I've installed them on storage card, but some of them doesn't work that way, so I had to install them on Device...And add to that bunch of programs as Freda, BsB, Cookie Home Tab and Editor, SlovoEd Dictionary etc....And, I've already taken care that all of my music, videos and pictures are placed in SD, My documents. But, whatever I do, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MEMORY ON MY DEVICE STORAGE ((((((((( !!!!!And it's always critical...HELP ((please.....
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you should install cleanram as it helps free some ram...also get cleartemp as it'll show you what's eating your space up like googlemap and youtube caches so you can delete them easily...and finally don't forget to soft reset
the next tip helps MOST
one more very important thing which saves a LOT of space if you're on stock rom or your cooked rom doesnt have it(highly unlikely) is moving the album cache...read the thread here and look out for 4tune's cab
you should also read tboy200's thread and look at tips 65 and 67
Thanks, this was very helpful ... I'm happy again ! I've already got tired of reseting my phone..twice a day minimum
This is my first tablet and I'm new to Android (always had Windows Mobile phones) so maybe this is common knowledge to Android users but I sure as hell can't find the answer via searching.
I finally bought a microSD card for my Prime but can't figure out how to use it efficiently. I can access it an copy files and folders to it via the File Manager so I know it works. However, I can't figure out how to make the camera save pictures and videos to it by default. After looking at that for a while I looked at my other apps and none of my programs seem to have an option to make use of the microSD card. Took me a while to figure out I can't even install programs to the SD card like I can with my Windows Mobile phone. I can deal with that last part though with 32 gigs on the internal card but if the only way to use the microSD card is to manually copy files over to it where those files are then inaccessible for all the apps so I have to manually copy them back over every time I need to use them, that's not acceptable.
What am I missing here? I can't believe this was intentionally designed this way. Is there some global setting that I'm missing to open things up?
I think most use the external card for music & vids and such that they carry over TO the tablet. I also noticed you cannot set apps to save there and I have an app that monitors apps when they install. & if they are SD compatible it alerts you.... it never works in this setup. No doubt you could - if rooted - move apps to SD card as I do this on my Droid all the time.
As for camera & vids no way to set SD as default.
Unless there been a change since honeycomb saving and running apps to sd is not native. Most people state that due to all the space the device comes with you don't need it since apk are so small. But I had 4 games take up 4.5 gb of space on my device so that rational does not float.
If you ever root your device there is app called gl to sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328053
worked great on honycomb (waiting till i get home to use new root so have not tried on ICS yet) I moved all my games to SD and they ran fine .. games like shadow Gun GTA III DeadSpace Backstab 9mm.
Just my two cents if there is way for using the sd card natively in ICS I also wold love to know.
On my measly 512mb OG Droid I have 110 apps on the SD card. Ahhhh thank God root.
For this 32gb beast I decided to forgo SD card apps as it does slow the app down (has to r/w from slower card) and Widgets can bust.
It is lame though that we cannot set cameras & vids to auto save but again you'd get a performance hit to a small degree.
The situation was worse before Honeycomb, in Gingerbread you could have a 16GB phone but the way it was partitioned only 1GB to 2GB was considered "internal memory" for app installation space/data while the rest was partitioned into a virtual "sdcard" folder that you needed things like App2SD to move over to that parition space (and not even fully, portions of app/data/cache would stay in the internal memory space). With HoneyComb/ICS the full 32GB or 64GB storage space is visible and useable between the internal/sdcard mounts. I got the 64GB Prime so I wouldn't have to worry about app install space any more since I like to load hundreds of apps/games. I also have a 64GB microSDHC card which I use to store a bunch of videos/music.
Thanks for the reply guys. Surprised that Android is built to limit itself like that. Really though, 32 gigs is a lot of space for the apps themselves. If it was just a matter of having to install the apps on the internal card, I wouldn't even bother cause I know with my use I'd never approach the limit if that was the only limitation.
However, not being able to save data used by the apps to external SD card is an issue as I see it. Will probably get around to rooting my Prime just so I can move some of the apps to the external SD card so they'll, hopefully, save and use the data there to keep my internal card free. I have a few aviation chart based apps that will be taking up quite a bit of space. I don't think it will max it out on their own but I like having plenty of extra space.
Not being able to save the video and pics from the camera directly to the external card is a bit ridiculous though. Perhaps a developer can fix that? In the mean time, I've thought of a work around that, while not perfect, will work for me I think in regards to keeping the camera videos and pics from clogging up my internal drive. I've installed an app called SyncMe that syncs via wifi network to my computer. I'll set it automatically to move all the camera data from my internal card to my computer and then I'll have another event that syncs the files on my computer to my tablet external SD card. The effect will be a daily transfer of all my camera activity to my external SD card while also making them available on my computer until I have time to sort through them.
Yea, once you play around with it a bit you'll find what works best for you. Some apps wont install on the external sd card and a lot of apps behave better when install on internal memory. Apps to SD is great for some but not all apps. Now separating the data from the apps that are internal to the external ? I'm not sure how well that will work.
Oh wait. I just re-read what you wrote. Yes - you can save the data to the external sd card and you will want to. There are lots of apps that do that, our Primes came with a backup app that will allow you to select apps to backup and/or apps with data. Sometimes you only want to restore apps and not data.
Your work around for storing pictures and video to external sd sounds like it will work well. 32gb is a lot of space. It's also really easy to use the File Manager to copy them over. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm guessing a lot of us here, especially if we rooted our phones, have grown accustom to setting schedules for apps to backup or data and for me - that includes things like pictures. Some of these backups will sync to a cloud so the data/pictures are safe and wont get lost. With 32gb I'm not concerned about space.
I wasn't really concerned about space that much until I recorded some video of my son's basketball game. Just over 6 min and the video was well over 800mb.
I could see that adding up real quick if I didn't stay on top of it and I know I won't without some 'auto' help. Got concerned that I might clog up my internal card with personal stuff that would inhibit my work stuff, which is what this is was for in the first place.
Haven't looked at the backup utility yet but every other app I've tried, I can't see a selectable option for getting choosing where to save and access data. Well, except for the SyncMe and File Manager I already mentioned. Oh, and I noticed that the gallery can see the photos and videos I moved to the external card so that's good.
Well, I found another reason to not like the microSD card option but this time, it's directly related to the Prime rather than a generic Android problem.
Took my prime out for work. First full day with hotel stay since buying the microSD card. By the time I get back to the hotel to settle in for the night, I notice the microSD card is missing. WTH!!!
Now, there wasn't anything on it that I don't have on the computer at home BUT, that card wasn't cheap. If it comes out of that slot so easy as to be gone after my first full day away from home with the Prime, I can't trust it at all.
First question, is there an easily accecible log file that would show when the card was unmounted? If so, that might narrow down where to look for it. Might actually be able to find it if I know when it came out.
Second question, does anyone know if the SD card slot on the dock is more secure? I would really like more space but I'm not paying for another microSD card.
To answer one of your questions, the dock SD card is much more secure, it does not stick out of the dock at all unlike the Micro SD in the tablet
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I would definitely recommend you have at least a sleeve for your Prime. That will help with the microSD not popping out, too. I have been carrying mine with me for weeks and haven't had mine pop out at all. No, I'm not aware of a way to find out when it was unmounted.
And yes - the dock has a SD card reader, so it's bigger and it will insert flush as opposed to sticking out a little due to the beveled design of the sides of the Prime. And with the usb port......well it's limitless really - maybe not to carry for every outing, but at home it's so easy to contect to the external hard drive and transfer movies and pictures that way. I really like the dock. Also, the prices of microSD cards have come waaaaay down. Sandisk, class 6, 16gb, $20.
"Haven't looked at the backup utility yet but every other app I've tried, I can't see a selectable option for getting choosing where to save and access data. Well, except for the SyncMe and File Manager I already mentioned. Oh, and I noticed that the gallery can see the photos and videos I moved to the external card so that's good."
The built in app backup does save your data to either or both places. This is data from your apps. Not things like downloads or pictures. It saves your apps too but you don't really have to do that since as soon as you sign into the market your apps are there. I have 2 other 3rd party apps that do the same thing with more features (schedules, bookmarks, etc)
Yep - the gallery and video player are going to find the pictures and videos/movies that you put on the removable sd card. The built in media player lets you tell it where to look for movies/videos. There really is plenty of room in the 32gb for most of your needs. Unless you root and start storing multiple weekly nandroid backups, you'll likely only need to manage your files when you "want to" - i.e. when you want to transfer pictures and videos on and off the Prime and/or when you back the Prime up. I have a 16gb $20 sandisk class 6 microsd that I've loaded up with 10 movies, but now I only have 4 gb left. I have over 80 3rd party apps installed to internal, that combined with the apps that came with it amount to only about 5gb, (plus misc pictures, videos, several hundred books, etc) and I still have 22 gb left. So I'm moving more movies to internal. I didn't get a 32gb tablet to leave a bunch of dead air
I have a TON of pictures and videos in my gallery. TONS. Thousands. But I've been using an android phone for several years so I'm synced with Google and the Cloud. Every picture I take with my phone or tablet is stored in the Cloud, private, available only to me unless I choose to make it public. I can access them anywhere from any computer within seconds of taking them. So they don't take up any space at all on any of my devices. Neither does my music anymore
Yeah, the 32 gigs is good for my needs. Not for my wants. I justified buying this thing to carry aeronautical chart which takes up several gigabits of space. Quite a bit of space but not so much that it overwhelms the internal card. However, when using it for secondary tasks like an HD video recorder, that space get chewed up fast. MicroSD was my plan for stuff like that. Will have to rethink that now.
Was planning on getting a sleeve or a case once I had the tab and keyboard and could figure out exaclty what I wanted for it (just got the keyboard) but that card got lost way too easy. Not buying another one even with the sleeve/case.
Well, the card showed up. Well, more accurately, it was sitting in a convenient place for me to stumble across it this morning.
Lucky for me for now.
Greetings.
I've had the pleasure to deal with many android devices, ranging from the very first EVO 4G to a rooted nook and KFire, galaxy tab, and my current GAlaxy S4. Nonetheless I've noted a pattern that hopefully one or several of you can help with...
I usually have SD cards that are larger than the native storage of most of my devices however.... I always run out of room for apps. I wouldn't say I install everything I See but I do install apps I need for work (medical apps) which for the most part don't exactly take much space but some are known to take 300-1Gb at most. Anyway, my devices always seem to fill the native storage while the SD Card remains fairly unused. Here is an example of my phone.
So my main gripe/issue is: My SD cards are always fairly empty and only have contents I've actively copied over to them from my desktop or notebook. I am under the impression that most programs do not install the data to SD Card and use the native storage instead. Is there anyway this can change? Any tips to get more space (besides backing up pictures and deleting those, 700+ mb!).
Thank you in advance!
good question.
theartofbone said:
Greetings.
I've had the pleasure to deal with many android devices, ranging from the very first EVO 4G to a rooted nook and KFire, galaxy tab, and my current GAlaxy S4. Nonetheless I've noted a pattern that hopefully one or several of you can help with...
I usually have SD cards that are larger than the native storage of most of my devices however.... I always run out of room for apps. I wouldn't say I install everything I See but I do install apps I need for work (medical apps) which for the most part don't exactly take much space but some are known to take 300-1Gb at most. Anyway, my devices always seem to fill the native storage while the SD Card remains fairly unused. Here is an example of my phone.
So my main gripe/issue is: My SD cards are always fairly empty and only have contents I've actively copied over to them from my desktop or notebook. I am under the impression that most programs do not install the data to SD Card and use the native storage instead. Is there anyway this can change? Any tips to get more space (besides backing up pictures and deleting those, 700+ mb!).
Thank you in advance!
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I am in agreement with you, as I have progressed thru numerous phones too. After going the route of the first moto linux phone and then jumping aboard the Android system when the first G1 came out from HTC and have always had similiar problems.
There original solution was special purpose apps that would allow you to backup your apps to SD card, then other apps came along to allow you to actually run apps from SD Card but seems that not all apps can actually be accessed from SD card. I havent kept up with it all like I first did and have become rather lazy and carefree or even sloppy with how I maintain my devices files and apps organized. Much now to an overwhelming large mess of old devices and storage media not to mention profiles tied to email google accounts. Its difficult to even start over as every device wants to have a profile to sync to. It could entirely be possible to top out the memory on a brand new device after snyc to one or two profiles.
Also it seems for the average consumer that has a unrooted device it is impossible to thoroughly clean or interrogate the internal device memory . seems like the revisions of the android operating system makes file management of internal memory even more difficult to manage.
I didnt want to get too carried away but I totally feel frustrated as you do, sorry I dont have a solid technical answer to resolve your problem. I am asked all the time to fix my girlfriends tablet and I cant explain it to her where all her memory has disapeared to after a few factory resets. Doesnt seem to matter, if you load alot of apps to just give them a spin for a test ride. Even if you delete or move them to store on sd card . It seems alot of junk files still seem to reside in the internal storage and eventually will eat away at the memory until it gets to the point of inoperability. App managers can make the situatin worse by creating even more orphaned files and junk too. All this stuff is not accessible to view and review and manage.
The only answer is to have a rooted device and the expertise to properly manage this inaccessible memory?
Is there a decent file management that a nonpower consumer can rely upon?
I have a rooted Moto X Pure (XT1575) running CM13. I did all of my migration/installation prior to installing an external SD card.
Today, I popped in and formatted an external SD card. I haven't done much of anything with the phone since doing that. About 1-2 hours later, I was browsing the external storage, and noticed that an Android/data directory was created, with about 10 subdirs. They are empty for the most part. But some (possibly all) of those subdirs were already also present, with data, in the internal storage (under Android/data of course).
Why does this happen, and should I be concerned about it? Putting my OCD hat on, I can't see why it would make sense for one app to have its data spanned across both volumes. For one, it seems like a waste of space. Second, how would the app know where to find what resources? And third, it's just sloppy to have this data managed across both volumes.
I have tried searching for this phenomenon, but it is a difficult thing to search on. There are so many questions about Android internal/external storage, that there is nothing could see that would clearly distinguish mine from the others, in the eyes of a search engine.
Your help is much appreciated.
Regards.