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This saddens and excites me. I want it, but I just paid for my TP original. Bigger screen looks awesome! Here's the article I first found this info on:
HTC's Touch Diamond, and its QWERTY'd doppelganger the Touch Pro, have formally passed into their second generation:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5154108/htc-to...o2-feature-bigger-screens-better-battery-life
I've heard GSM only which really sucks. I would love that bigger screen!!
stanglifemike said:
I've heard GSM only which really sucks. I would love that bigger screen!!
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i hope not!!! cause i would buy it as soon as i can if its CDMA
stanglifemike said:
I've heard GSM only which really sucks. I would love that bigger screen!!
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From here: http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6872
Remember the HTC 2009 Roadmap leak back in January? Sure you do - it was a pretty big deal here in Windows Mobile land.
So, in what we've seen so far from MWC, was the leak right? Were the Touch Pro2 and Diamond2 on the roadmap? Yes, they were, and we can get a pretty good indication of what carrier is getting what through this roadmap.
The Diamond2 was the Topaz, and according to the leaked roadmap, AT&T will be getting this device, probably in time for holiday time 2009.
The Touch Pro2 is the Rhodium (or, a slight variation of it since it doesn't have a red keyboard). The Rhodium is going to Verizon, says the roadmap, though a variation of the Rhodium (perhaps without a tilting screen) called the Tungsten
, may be headed to Sprint and T-Mobile. Oh yes, and not picture here, the Saphire turned out to be the HTC Magic Android-based device.
Well isn't that just f'n dandy? They can't even realease proper working GPS without severe lag or improper tracking, of FM for that matter, but no less than 3 months after the release of the TP, which I also bought, they release the next big thing. Real smooth, HTC. I'm thinking this is my definite last HTC device.
They can now count me in as a very unhappy customer.
So far as I see the TP and TP2 are very similar:
Pluses Touch Pro:
+Dpad
-VGA Resolution
- VZW memory limited
Touch Pro 2:
+WVGA Screen
+Better Speakerphone (?)
+Zoom Slider (?)
-No Dpad
+Tilt Keyboard
Sooo...other than these, are all the changes software which we will see anyway?
PS - I just picked up Touch Pro today because I really do like the Dpad...
EvilDeadFan said:
Well isn't that just f'n dandy? They can't even realease proper working GPS without severe lag or improper tracking, of FM for that matter, but no less than 3 months after the release of the TP, which I also bought, they release the next big thing. Real smooth, HTC. I'm thinking this is my definite last HTC device.
They can now count me in as a very unhappy customer.
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You seem surprised. Do you not know that the time between generations is less than 6 months? Do you not understand anything about the shelf life of a computer?
MrTek said:
So far as I see the TP and TP2 are very similar:
Pluses Touch Pro:
+Dpad
-VGA Resolution
- VZW memory limited
Touch Pro 2:
+WVGA Screen
+Better Speakerphone (?)
+Zoom Slider (?)
-No Dpad
+Tilt Keyboard
Sooo...other than these, are all the changes software which we will see anyway?
PS - I just picked up Touch Pro today because I really do like the Dpad...
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The larger screen did it for me.
Dan76 said:
The larger screen did it for me.
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Funny, just a few short years ago, everyone wanted smaller phones. Now Bigger is better.
Just the opposite for laptops. Look at the massive sales of Netbooks over Laptops. Smaller is definitely "in" now there.
Not impressed
After i was done drooling over the new look of the the touch pro 2, i read the specs sheet and my burning desire to have it was put out. It does look really nice but i think that HTC could have done SOOO much better with it. The first thing i didnt understand was why they downgraded the camera. The kept it the same resolution but removed the flash!. I dont see why they couldnt up the tp2's camera to 5mp considering the fact the the diamond 2 and HD have5mp shooters. I know that the camera isnt evewrything in a phone but when a phone costs nearly 1000 unlocked, it should at least be passable. ANother thing was the lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack. The HD, which has been out for a while, is practically the same phone (-the keyboard) and has one. Hasnt HTC learned from the many letters that users want a standard headphone jack? I myself hate dealing with connectors. I also dont like how HTC only modified some of the phone programs. The file explorer is still as finger hating as ever and the only thing that saved me on my tp was the d-pad. HTC shouldve done something because when paying that much 4 a phone, one does not want to shell out another $30 for a finger friendly file explorer. Well that was my rant. Tp2 looks nice but isnt much better then the tp1 (besides screen size and tilt).
yea when i first seen the release of these two devices i was real pumped for them to actually come out. But.... after reading the specs on the TP2 the only major changes were the screen and tilt function. It still has same processor and memory so i can't see it be lightning fast without rom custimization. So for now I'm just going to stick with the fuze or maybe wait for att to release the diamond 2.
Who thinks the HTC Rose is, as of 2009, the absolute most beautiful phone to have?
the phone is nice but, there are much better phones
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Who thinks the HTC Rose is, as of 2009, the absolute most beautiful phone to have?
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hmmmmmmmmm i am also an x1 owner and a few other HTC phones and it is nice but thats it. got nothing on the others out there. also run wm6.1 std which means you lose all the flexibility of wm6.1 pro
Perhaps not the most beautiful, but it's the most useful smartphone I ever had. With Rose I have a Diamond and choice of software and functions of a Diamond in reduced size. It is not frail like a touch device, It is ergonomic and with a great battery. It has everything! It has a body of a phone with the heart of a pda phone. It is also really stylish but, speaking about beauty, I prefer bigger screens of little bricks...
i switched from WM Pro to WM Std more than year ago. I didn't lose flexibility, i've rather got much more flexibility with std. Now i can do most things with one hand and very quick.
May be, when WMPro devices will get capacitive touch-screen then i will try WMPro again. With resistive touch-screens - no, thanks!
thing of beauty
picked it up earlier today so update to my earlier post..........very beautiful device though fingerprint magnet. working awaty next week and taking it with me to see how it holds up. wm std is ok and after removing security most of my apps have loaded on........skyfire, core player, google maps, htc home etc. prefer the normal HTC plugin that comes a default. this is a newer device so why put older, outdated htc home on it!
I am in a purchasing dilemma since my Diamond died. I have HD2, Samsung Galaxy S and HTC Desire in my list.
Let me try to write what I have in mind. Pardon me if I offended anyone but these are purely my opinion.
Looks: HD2 has the sleekest design, Samsung Galaxy S isn't bad either but I don't like the curved corners in HTC Desire.
Winner: HD2
Screen: SGS has 4" S-AMOLED. HD2 doesn't but has got 4.3" gorgeous display. HTC Desire is somewhat in the middle, offering 3.7" SLCD.
Winner: SGS. Runnerup: HD2
Camera flash: SGS doesn't have a flash. I assume HD2 has a better dual LED flash than Desire.
Winner: HD2
OS: This part is what I hate and largely contributes to my dilemma. SGS and HTC Desire runs on Android natively, which I think these devices have a long time to be developed before they become obsolete. HTC Desire may have a leading edge compared to SGS because HTC devices have a great amount of developers working on it. HD2 is capable of running Android but its fundamental operating system is WM 6.5, which soon may become obsolete.
Winner: HTC Desire
Graphic performance: SGS has a better GPU than HTC Desire and HD2. I also wonder if the poorly implemented GPU driver in HD2 would hinder progress in future Android builds such as Gingerbread.
Winner: SGS
Price: SGS>Desire>HD2 in my country. HD2 wins.
Guys, help me decide. I could have waited for WP7 devices IF my Diamond did not unexpectedly give up, but I don't have a choice but to grab a phone now. Which device should I go for? Or could I have overlooked any potential models?
nice review but which uses u do with ur phone that what important
I use my phone for browsing, instant messaging and GPS. I prefer phones which I can modify its software to fit my needs, for example, ROM cooking. I am leaning towards Android, I have been using WM for too long and I'm a little bored with it.
....ive been a user of HD2 for the past year nd honestly.....i couldnt stand the msgng client in it! it just is plain frustrating........also from the momnet u buy the hd2 u cant but start installing stuff to change the whole phone experience!........same thng with my previous diamond 2!
i bought a SGS nd so far have been very impressed.....no lags.......no restarts........however i miss wm apps.......you have open source apps for wm which span all categories nd most are free or cracked.......android is still new but has potential if you bear the wait.......for ex you can't find a decent battery/clock/weather widget for your homescreen!!!! ..........already am looking forward for windows phone...........but i guess android it is for now.
As for SGS vs Desire, well to tell u the truth, i became very doubtful abt HTC support services...........they never target the right issues! they're just too lame......
If you happen to have any spare phone (smart or not) lying around then I'd suggest you use that phone until WP7 phones come out. They are coming really soon and you should give them a chance to be considered. You might regret if you buy a phone now and a month later a WP7 phone comes out with features that you really really like.
Well, Just my opinion - that's what I'd do anyway if I was in your situation. In any case, good luck with your decision
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Simple answer. NO!
The phone is quite old now and you will receive no support at all from HTC.
I think this is too important to ignore ...
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I am using HD2 and i'm very happy with it. If you wanna go HD2, be alarmed that the stock ROM from HTC won't be a satisfactory user experience. I would advise you to look for a custom ROM, that fulfills your user needs (battery power absorbtion, eye candy, crashing,...)
After that you get almost unlimited customisation ability. On the other side, HD2 won't gen any major official customer support, so if you are o.k. with that, there's no other trendemous downside.
One other thing...
if you are a regular customer, who prefers simplicity and no customization (iPhone), this is probably not suited for you
Sent from my HD2
downside if you get the hd2 is that, i doubt htc will release any further official updates for it however look how much this forum has to offer in regards with cooked roms,android port or eventually wm7 port(hopefully) but its fundamental o/s is pretty dire without the enhancements ie battery life and frezzing up ..your stated you been using windows o/s so in a way you know what to expect from a windows phone i havnt tried the desire but reviews are pretty sound..played with the sgs very briefly thought android alot smoother, i love the voice recognition aspect of it eg on goggle if you speak to it, it will fill in the google search field for you, i was impressed! personally i would hold on until the rumoured hd3 or hd7 comes out this year
I think you should buy a cheap replacement at for now. Since WP7 I think will be released soon(I hope), you can wait for it. Anyway in case you won't like WP7, you can still get the HD2(over SGS and Desire) and I think it will be lot cheaper but great overall.
I bought HD2 some time before Desire release.. I also was stuck a long time don't know if to wait or buy.. Then I sold it while Galaxy S hit the store cause I got good money for it.. Then I had the chance, Galaxy S or HD2 again.. I bought HD2 again and didn't regret it..
If I look at the price and the possibilities the HD2 is the winner for me.. Also the quality and display is really good.. Android for me is ready for daily use (Bangster 1.2A Build), no need for NAND atm love the possibility switch between WinMo and Android.. WP7 is coming for shure and Ubuntu also =) But if you don't want to change OS then buy Android phone, I came from Palm to Windows Mobile years ago but I never got an experience like Android, best usability you can get in my opinion..
Only advantage I see with Samsung is the better GPU, but in Quadrant benchmark I get a much higher CPU score, so don't know which is better.. NFS Shift runs smooth though =)
I have to agree with the last 2 posts, came from a Mytouch andriod phone to the HD2. If it wasn't for the fact that I can sync up my calander and contacts from my outlook, this phone would be have been sold 1 day after I bought it. 3 apps on the crappy windows market also make the phone ok. Being able to put different roms helps, but it really only changes screens around, it still runs on crappy windows
But if I had my choice I would have stayed with my Mytouch and spent $275 on a newer andriod phone then this POS.
Great replies. I've decided to go for Samsung Galaxy S. Cheers~
OK, so i have an LG optimus one, and i can trade it for a TG01. Is it worth it? Going from android to WM, and from capacitive to resistive?
But TG01 has 1gb procesor, and a 4.1 inch screen vs the 3.2 screen on the LG.
I did the opposite transition (from WM on an HTC Touch Diamond 2 to Optimus One) and advise you NOT to do this, WM is an OS on which no amount of patching can cover up its age, the Optimus One is a much better piece of kit from a software standpoint...if you only want to use your phone as a video player, the TG01 would be superior on account of the better resolution and screen size. For anything else, Optimus One.
+1 for that,
I had a TG01 a year ago as an upgrade on orange from a Diamond. After a couple of days I realized I'd made a big mistake, bad call audio, no custom roms at the time. I should have stayed with the diamond.
Talked to a few people at orange, finally got the right person who offered me a swap for three phones, one was a Hero and I haven't looked back, definitely don't miss WM.
Have now got work to provide my boss and I with P500's replacing the blackberries we had before and it's a great phone. Do not be tempted by the big screen on the tosh, there is so much bezel around the edge it looks ridiculous in your hand, managed to scratch the first one orange sent me with the supplied stylus.
And the P500 has UMA on orange, just need to get it working on the hero now.
Stick with the LG.
MG
Thank you for the posts. I decided to stick with my LG, even tough that 4.1 screen is tempting ).
Hello all,
I have grabbed a deal on ebay for a brand new htc 7 mozart for 205 GBP.. the phone is locked to orange uk (i intend to unlock it).. is there any cons I should know about this phone? pls advice me asap!
Thanks!
Biggest cons for me:
Xenon flash obviously doesnt work when shooting video
Slippery as hell (look at my other topic about dropping it. I dropped this phone more than 10 other phones I owned)
Touch buttons for search/home/back suck. I dont know how often I already hit the touch search button and had to think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GM4Lt5k24s
lol!! thx for the comment! so, do you think I should close the deal for that price or it doesn't worth the money? I wouldn't buy it for 400+ GBP that orange sells it, but for the half money I might do!
it is a good phone carmello, especially for that price. i'm using mozart over 2 months and (from hardware perspective) can't really blame it. whether or not wp7 will fit your needs/tastes is a different question...
basically if you feel confident getting a wp7 phone or want to give it a try in any case then mozart is a solid choice.
I am a pretty confident with wp7 because I've tried it before on my bricked focus! my concerns rely on htc's quality.. for me wp7 with nodo serves all my needs as what I seek is some time-wasting games (really liked xbox live), fast internet navigation, gps, office and some usefull apps.. and smoothness first of all! won't be a problem I guess to flash it with nodo as I read from other posts, right?
Cheers guys, appreciate it!
for less than 200 GBP I can find a new optimus 7 as well.. shall I choose that instead of mozart? any advice? pls?!
carmello1911 said:
for less than 200 GBP I can find a new optimus 7 as well.. shall I choose that instead of mozart? any advice? pls?!
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Even though the Xenon flash means you cant record video with light I would still go for the mozart above all phones for:
Looks, the body is sexy
Cam: 8Mpix instead of 5 and Xenon flash is great for pics (example) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22045001/mozpic.jpg
Uniqueness -> You will hardly see anyone else with a mozart.
I would really suggest a good casing/cover/pouch though cuz im not kidding when I say its slippery, specially if you have dry hands (which I do)
I've had the Mozart since January, and imo it's an excellent little phone =)
I agree with the others, I have dropped it quite a few times already, but so far not even a scratch so it's pretty resilient!
One bonus of the Mozart is that you can upgrade the memory on it (have already fitted one with a 16gb card, will be putting a 32gb card in mine once hardware warranty has expired!) but can be a bit fiddly...
Only bad point I've found is it has a tendency to freeze, or simply lose sound until I turn off and on again! If it freezes, only option sometimes is to pop the battery out for a minute or two...
But, this seems to be happening less with NoDo, so hopefully with more updates it will become even more stable =D
Sent from my now unlocked 7 Mozart using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
I'd go with the Mozart. It has gorgeous looks and the camera is quite excellent. The Optimus seems to be a more popular phone but I think it feels awkward in the hand.
I agree that the Mozart is a bit slippery and I have dropped it loads of times and it is still in one piece unlike some of my friends iphones.
The only downside in my opinion is the screen, it has good viewing angles but has some colour banding. Not sure of the screen quality of the Optimus so can't compare them.
already got the mozart in my hands.. its really beautiful and not regretting it at all (not yet at least!), and it only cost me 171 GBP from ebay! I gues this thread might close now! thanks everyone for your help! really appreciate it!
btw, I had unlocked it so I can use an O2 sim card on it and connected it to zune twice so I got instantly the feb and march updates without any chevron unlocks or whatsoever!
You can get the mozart from cex for £195 with a years warranty
http://uk.webuy.com/search/index.php?stext=htc+mozart&ispostback=1&mode=buy
I paid £166 BNIB! that's a deal i think! Point is to be satisfied and cert ainly I am with my Mozart!
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If you plan to use your phone as a music player, Mozart is arguably your choice over Optimus. And, as weird as it sounds, HTC is better than even Samsung in this area, while LG is subpar. I'm talking about WP7 devices here, obviously, not in general.
im so dumb i had to find out the meaning of subpar, typically state school education