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Does the BlueAngel use the same screen as the Himalaya? I need to know cos I've checked ebay and the only screens available are for the xda II which is the Himalaya... I have been to ppctechs.com but because I am based in the UK I don't want to risk sending my unit all the way to the US + it's a stupid price to fix the phone.
Well, either that or I'm getting a new phone...
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Does the BlueAngel use the same screen as the Himalaya?
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No. At least not the same as a complete "product", because the cable is different.
Well, either that or I'm getting a new phone...
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Don't throw away your old one I was told that my
replacement LCD will be delivered at the end
of October, maybe there will be the second one.
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richardlai said:
Well, either that or I'm getting a new phone...
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Don't throw away your old one I was told that my
replacement LCD will be delivered at the end
of October, maybe there will be the second one.
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So what you're saying is that you may have a spare screen for me?
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So what you're saying is that you may have a spare screen for me?
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This page claims that there are 2 LCDs used in Blueangel
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
You should check your board ID first
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs
Glad I stumbled across this then....
Just to throw in another extra; how's about the Alpine (XDA 2i?). That seems to be from the outside anyways a himalaya with WiFi and a faster CPU + bigger camera... can I transfer a himalaya screen to an Alpine?
I know that all screens past the wallaby have the same res and number of colours (I must confess, I thought they would be all interchangeable! ) Screens are appearing from foreign lands on Ebay for about £80 I think there was one for the 2s - just to help OP!
So in round-up. Can I use a himalaya screen in an alpine, as I now know I can't put one in a BA? Or can I use a BA in an alpine? so in even shorter roundup =- are ANY of these screens swappable?! :shock:
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Can I use a himalaya screen in an alpine, as I now know I can't put one in a BA? Or can I use a BA in an alpine?
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There is no hardware information on Alpine available No motherboard pictures, nothing.
Probably some information can be gathered from the haret.exe program
available here
http://sdgsystems.com/pub/ipaq/hx4700/starterkit/20050611
Hi all,
I see a lot of familiar/famous faces here allready.
Would be good to know which Devs are porting over to the Raphael.
May also help with Development work if we have a list of Developers that will be here from the beginning.
So far I believe we have
Mamaich
Bepe
Olipro
CMonex
JJ
Dutty
Laurentius
myself
Who else will be joining us?
Cheers,
Beasty
I'll be too.
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I'll be too.
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Count me in sir.
Heee ... Beasty, yes you can count me in!
I'm looking forward to Rapheal!
Regards,
Leo
Looks like the old Universal team is back together
Myself included!
You can count me in for any help with ROM testing - my upgrade is due in 4 weeks and counting...
Well whenever this comes to ATT I'll compile another thread devoted to tweaking and removing all of the random crap that is bound to come with the ATT version...
Upgrade or no upgrade available on my contract, I'm getting this phone (but I can wait for a non-front camera version for about $200 less than the $904 price it's at right now.)
I'm certainly ready to jump on the Raphael bandwagon, but the details for the 3G radio for us yankees are still questionable. Until I see what the US version is, I'm not getting really excited about it. Other than a RAM/ROM/Processor upgrade, there isn't much of a gain. Also, until this thing gets in the hands of some XDA users, we won't know if they made a similar mistake as they did with the Kaiser in terms of drivers and hardware implementation.
HTC Omni with Android - yes. Another rehash of the Wizard, meh.
-Mc
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I'm certainly ready to jump on the Raphael bandwagon, but the details for the 3G radio for us yankees are still questionable. Until I see what the US version is, I'm not getting really excited about it. Other than a RAM/ROM/Processor upgrade, there isn't much of a gain. Also, until this thing gets in the hands of some XDA users, we won't know if they made a similar mistake as they did with the Kaiser in terms of drivers and hardware implementation.
HTC Omni with Android - yes. Another rehash of the Wizard, meh.
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Pretty sure that TouchFlo 3D needs D3D acceleration to work?? The GFX drivers situation should be almost identical to the diamond, so best to take a gander at the diamond forum and see if any issues are apparent?
You're absolutely correct.
But let us not forget that HTC's devices from years ago perform better graphically then the Kaiser. Who'd have ever thought THAT would happen (especially considering the vast technological improvements)?!?!
I have been lurking on the Diamond forums keeping an eye on how things play out. We still haven't seen a US-based Diamond variant yet.
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You're absolutely correct.
But let us not forget that HTC's devices from years ago perform better graphically then the Kaiser. Who'd have ever thought THAT would happen (especially considering the vast technological improvements)?!?!
I have been lurking on the Diamond forums keeping an eye on how things play out. We still haven't seen a US-based Diamond variant yet.
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Yes McHale but even if that is the case the Touch Pro is running the same chipset as the Diamond (7201A) so people could just make hybrid ROMs incorporating the best of both devices. Next question.
I'm not talking about the video specifically, I'm talking about support and proper implementation of hardware. Believe me, I'm not bashing HTC. I have enough devices I can say I supported them quite a little. I'm saying we haven't seen a US model yet and until I see the model that will work in the states, we don't know how well it will be implemented.
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You guys make me feel like A Noob again.
Not a Dev, but come agust 28th, i'll be switching to my new Baby and thread.
ill be here also,,,, full throttle.
Still debating when to get the ***** purchased, get it before holiday......or after?? hmmm
(bearing in mind i chose day before holidays to get my Hermes back in 2k6 lol)
i will switch over when at&t comes out with their version.
hope soon cause i can't stand the wait.
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Still debating when to get the ***** purchased, get it before holiday......or after?? hmmm
(bearing in mind i chose day before holidays to get my Hermes back in 2k6 lol)
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I've done the same mate, the Raphael should arrive just before we fly off to Florida (hopefully) gives me plenty of time to work on some Roms whilst away (and a new toy to play with on the plane)
Stocks for pre-orders are running a bit low on most UK sites now though, so be quick if you do want one. Expansys did me one for £460 with case and cables TV Out etc. I imagine prices will rise slightly after release and demand will be pretty high. The Uni finally gets chance to have a rest in the Bottom-Drawer Beasty PDA vault.
Cheers,
Beasty
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You guys make me feel like A Noob again.
Not a Dev, but come agust 28th, i'll be switching to my new Baby and thread.
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is 28th Aug the official release to retail date?
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is 28th Aug the official release to retail date?
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Since this isn't about the release, (that's another thread)
No the 28th is not the release date, It's when "I" get my Baby.
i so happy that i see some of my fav devs getting ready for my new HTC!!.
i was hoping to stay with the original Rom at least 6 months but i dont thing this will happen with u all!!
good luck
yup just putting the word out. pictures and more info here http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3018 lol I wonder how long it will takes us to get our hands on this one
windows mobile 6.5 walk thru for video click link http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/255/71.733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474406
my friend the link I already knew about, Da_G is doing his best to get a BETA version of 6.5. I am talking about the "official" release. Which microsoft has made it official to have devices come out the end of 2009. But that doesnt mean we wont have it sooner, all we need is a leak and then DA_G wont have to work as hard
I'm surprised to read
Microsoft said. "Manufacturer’s will not be able to customise the interface as much as they have done in the past
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Tell me if I'm wrong but visual layers as manilla are an add-on software, not a modification of the OS. So how could microsoft no allow such UI
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Microsoft said. "Manufacturer’s will not be able to customise the interface as much as they have done in the past
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Tell me if I'm wrong but visual layers as manilla are an add-on software, not a modification of the OS. So how could microsoft no allow such UI
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That explains alot in regard to the difficulties surrounding the issues Da_G and others have had getting things to work correctly on the betas. It is not a good sign that Microsoft is taking this approach. This tells me that the issues with the ui breaking with lots of third party software are only going to get worse. I have a feeling we are going to have alot more problems with 6.5 than we would like before its all over.
It saying late 2009 so that means windows mobile 7 prolly wont be out until 2011 maybe cause i doubt if they release it 2010 after releasing 6.5 late in 2009.
Yea im cant wait for the not beat leak for 6.5 for the fuze
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That explains alot in regard to the difficulties surrounding the issues Da_G and others have had getting things to work correctly on the betas. It is not a good sign that Microsoft is taking this approach. This tells me that the issues with the ui breaking with lots of third party software are only going to get worse. I have a feeling we are going to have alot more problems with 6.5 than we would like before its all over.
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My guess is that they're trying to establish a more consistent appearance of the operating system for branding purpose. It's hard to say "this is what a windows phone looks like" when every manufacturer makes it look different. My guess is that 3rd party UI's will still be around though, and they're just talking about what a stock phone looks like.
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Yea im cant wait for the not beat leak for 6.5 for the fuze
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Its not happening:
Sadly, Microsoft's saying that no devices in the market today will receive official 6.5 updates, but don't pull out your wallets just yet, though -- the first devices with Windows Mobile 6.5 preinstalled should be available in the fourth quarter of the year.
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/02/16/microsoft-announces-windows-mobile-6-5/
So it won't be leaking for the Raph. The leak will probably be a generic leak, not customized for any specific (or maybe customized for another new phone) phone so the guys here will play/work extra hard to make it work on the Raph.
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My guess is that they're trying to establish a more consistent appearance of the operating system for branding purpose. It's hard to say "this is what a windows phone looks like" when every manufacturer makes it look different. My guess is that 3rd party UI's will still be around though, and they're just talking about what a stock phone looks like.
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I hear what your saying and I agree with Microsofts idea to some extent. I hope your right about the UI's Scotchua.
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Sadly, Microsoft's saying that no devices in the market today will receive official 6.5 updates, but don't pull out your wallets just yet, though -- the first devices with Windows Mobile 6.5 preinstalled should be available in the fourth quarter of the year.
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So it won't be leaking for the Raph. The leak will probably be a generic leak, not customized for any specific (or maybe customized for another new phone) phone so the guys here will play/work extra hard to make it work on the Raph.
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My guess is this is why HTC's leaked roadmap shows att coming out with a new phone called the barium that is almost identical to the fuze. That will be the 6.5 variant.
What the heck, is it just me or is there not a picture of an "OK" button anywhere...
at least now I know what my "X" button is supposed to look like..
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What the heck, is it just me or is there not a picture of an "OK" button anywhere...
at least now I know what my "X" button is supposed to look like..
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LOL ... Theirs is a little small than yours just a little. Im amazed at how far IE has come. SPEECHLESS>.
Now I want a Touch Pro 2. Ill be drooling for the next 6-8 months waiting for it
What I read none of the older devices will get 6.5. The only ones released with 6.1 that will get 6.5 are the TP2 and Diamond 2 due out in late Q2
I'm kind of intrigued by 6.5 but its not a huge deal for me the news apps look cool, most of the improved functionality I can get with fingermenu and manilla, IMHO Manilla with fingermenu > then 6.5 (though if we could have all together that would be great). What I really want (and I'm searching for on all kinds of asian boards) is the latest version of manilla the TP2 runs. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
can we have a confirmation if we will have a wm 6.5 rom upgrade from htc?
in terms of processor both touch pro and touch pro 2 have same MHz (different chipset though).... only higher resolution.
And during the livecast i think steve ballmer said something about wm6.5 being available on phones in all price ranges... that could mean our touch pro will be able to do wm 6.5 as it has some horsepower underneath
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can we have a confirmation if we will have a wm 6.5 rom upgrade from htc?
in terms of processor both touch pro and touch pro 2 have same MHz (different chipset though).... only higher resolution.
And during the livecast i think steve ballmer said something about wm6.5 being available on phones in all price ranges... that could mean our touch pro will be able to do wm 6.5 as it has some horsepower underneath
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Everything I have read thus far says no that touch pro will not get a upgrade to 6.5.
Hopefully we will see different over the coming weeks.
we even have on our toch pro (and touch diamond) the required windows button: in our case it is the home button... it could have same functionality.. and the back, call end/start buttons too.. so that is checked, like the processor speed.. lol its only up to htc's decision to prolong the life of an "outdated" product or not (in their vision, as on some us carriers it just got launched)
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Everything I have read thus far says no that touch pro will not get a upgrade to 6.5.
Hopefully we will see different over the coming weeks.
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It wont cause of the fact touch pro 2 rumor to be release in 2nd quarter. Which has the tilt screen again. Which i loved my at&t tilt. plus tp2 looks thinner.
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Now I want a Touch Pro 2. Ill be drooling for the next 6-8 months waiting for it
What I read none of the older devices will get 6.5. The only ones released with 6.1 that will get 6.5 are the TP2 and Diamond 2 due out in late Q2
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The manufacturers and software engineers are killing me!! Just about the time I think I have a great phone and become satisfied with a cooked ROM, they go and tease me with a newer, better version of what I already have. Don’t these people know the state of the world economy?!
I agree about tp2
I already told my fiance that I am getting it and she was like you just brought that phone, so we came to the conclusion I had buy her a new X-Pole. I think the tp2 looks alot like the nokia teaser I saw a couple of months ago http://mashable.com/2008/12/02/nokia-n97-facebook/ I may try to get both.
Wondering if MS said anything about their first gen of wp7 are guaranteed to get mango update? I dont recall that upgrade from 6.1 to 6.5 was rolled out to all of their past devices. To give MS justice though, the update took a lot of time and there could be devices more than 1 years old.
Another thing, how come i notice in singapore, mozart is less cheaper compared to trophy.. Whats the upside of throphy compared to mozart?
every windows phoine 7 wil get mango
Trophy is a cheaper phone.
My wife has one, and I a Mozart - the only real difference is the camera and single mold case.
Otherwise, the Mozart is a little smaller - but is much more expensive in Australia (60% more or so).
I kinda like the trophy though..
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i haven't heard MS confirm this - i'm HOPING it's true but i haven't seen anything official. Have you?
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i haven't heard MS confirm this - i'm HOPING it's true but i haven't seen anything official. Have you?
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Yes, in MIX11 they have stated that. Some hardware options embedded in the new hardware chassis won't be available in the 1 GEN of WP7 like gyroscope, but MS also stated they will develop some kind of emulator for this to the current devices. It wont be as good as the hardware ones, but it will work.
All current devices will get Mando for sure.
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Yes, in MIX11 they have stated that.
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That's good to hear - i followed the MIX11 updates specifically looking for this information and didn't hear them say it - have you got a link?
i know they said about the gyro but i didn't hear anything where they specifically said that all current devices would DEFINATELY be getting mango.
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Trophy is a cheaper phone.
My wife has one, and I a Mozart - the only real difference is the camera and single mold case.
Otherwise, the Mozart is a little smaller - but is much more expensive in Australia (60% more or so).
I kinda like the trophy though..
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in hong kong windows 7 phones are droping prices like mad, it's because there are no chinese language for the main menu, and the price for the mozart 7, some shops are selling them more than the HD7.
I don't have any link right now, but its "common sense" that all current devices will have the updates, MS stated that even before they launched WP7...
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I don't have any link right now, but its "common sense" that all current devices will have the updates, MS stated that even before they launched WP7...
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i know it's 'common sense' - but that doesn't mean anything
Because they've bumped the release number up to 7.5 - this is technically NOT an update but a new version - historically for MS this means no upgrades and until i see or hear one of them say that "current devices will get this as an update" i'm not going to hold my breath.
The OP was looking for someone with DEFINITE PROOF - not just speculating.
at which point do we STOP expecting updates? wp8? WP8.5? wp9? wp10?
In Thailand, the price drop from over 630 USD to 230 USD within 3 months.
WTF HCT marketing.
Even the price are low but no one want to buy its, cuz they don't guarantee mango for this device.
What do you think?
I don't have an official link, i have read on lots of websites that the current devices will have Mango update, and i support this.
On MIX11, they even stated that since hardware gyroscope probably isn't available on current devices, the Mango update will have an emulation mode for these devices.
Also, several hardware specs were added or improved, but not removed.
Microsoft is in this for the long run and they wan't the OS to be successful. I'm sure they will provide future updates to current devices as long as it will be a good experience on current devices. Updates for all devices was also a big spec announced for WP and even if this could be a different version in number, i don't think that would change anything, this is not computers and Windows usually have a minimum 2 year between major versions.
Although this is considered "the next major version of Windows Phone" it is also being treated like an update, and traditionally MS releases the updates for free.
I'm not sure on Windows 8 thought, but i believe that will come at the end of 2012
EDIT: So now that Mango was officially presented by Microsoft and announced as free to all current devices and being available on fall, do you believe me?
I am waiting for my htc hd2 to get mango, so far DFT NODO rom is working perfect.
Every wp7 phone
It is said that "Every existing WP7 phone in the market will get the Mango Update" and the update is in this coming Fall.
MS is now making WP7 just like iPhone iOS where every WP7 phones will get the update just like how NoDo Updates is......for every WP7 phone.
i told you lot before. jsut listen and stop doubting. This is not andoroid (howver not saying android is bad, as its not as a previous user). But I have a feeling mango and the update after that and possible the one after that will be compatiable, until they focus on dual core phones and optimizing them. As whats the point of have a dual core phone if the software only uses on core
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In Thailand, the price drop from over 630 USD to 230 USD within 3 months.
WTF HCT marketing.
Even the price are low but no one want to buy its, cuz they don't guarantee mango for this device.
What do you think?
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this is a good one.
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I don't have an official link, i have read on lots of websites that the current devices will have Mango update, and i support this.
Microsoft is in this for the long run and they wan't the OS to be successful.
EDIT: So now that Mango was officially presented by Microsoft and announced as free to all current devices and being available on fall, do you believe me?
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are you working with M/s?
ecez said:
...are you working with M/s?
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No! Why do you ask?
WP7 devices will get the Mango update . i read this some where but should happen ...
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No! Why do you ask?
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juz ask, cos from the way U wrote made me wonder U worked in M/S.
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WP7 devices will get the Mango update . i read this some where but should happen ...
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yeah, shld happen . . . . .
still waiting, . . . . .
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i hope thats right
That have been confirmed several times now: ALL current WP7 devices will get the Mango update
Not sure about the right forum for this one, so posting it here... mods, move if you need to.
I am interested in buying an HP Pre 3 if I can get my hands on a cheap one... and/or an HP Veer. Seeing as HP has announced $75 for the Pre3 in UK and France, I hope the Veer would also see a similar price drop.
But the real question is: is Android going to be ported to the Pre3 and/or Veer? Afaik, both phones' hardware should be capable of running it, in principle.
Price drop announced in France... I would also like to know if we could have Android on Pre3.
If it's ported to the Touchpad, It could very well be added to the Pre, the only thing is how the Home/Menu/Back Buttons would work.
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Price drop announced in France... I would also like to know if we could have Android on Pre3.
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Where I can buy this pre 3 ? In italy/france/germany ?
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Where I can buy this pre 3 ? In italy/france/germany ?
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Announcement has been made in France, we're now waiting... I heard Germany went out of phones, they sold everything... I don't know about Italy.
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Announcement has been made in France, we're now waiting... I heard Germany went out of phones, they sold everything... I don't know about Italy.
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Germany went out of phones on Monday morning.
France discount announced Tuesday afternoon
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Britain discount announced Wednesday 24th August at 9am...
Now we wait...
When it'll be available, please buy one (cheap) for me
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When it'll be available, please buy one (cheap) for me
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OK, Just give me your credit card details and your account password. Thanks
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OK, Just give me your credit card details and your account password. Thanks
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I'm serious about this. Calculate the price after its change (phone cost + shipping cost to Macedonia), and if reasonable, buy me +1.
I must be the only guy in the world that actually had a Pre3 on Preorder. If I can pick up another few in the firesale then i'm happy to ship them out to people at cost. Drop me a PM and I'll do firstcome first serve.
When's it due on sale in the uk?
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I must be the only guy in the world that actually had a Pre3 on Preorder. If I can pick up another few in the firesale then i'm happy to ship them out to people at cost. Drop me a PM and I'll do firstcome first serve.
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I had one, but just got an email from the supplier saying that HP recalled the stock which was going to be sent to them, so my order was cancelled.
Shame, I was really looking forward to getting one... I hope I can grab one in the fire sale, but I probably won't...
I wish someone could make this happen for the Veer. I saw an article on precentral that someone was able to port a semi-working version of android to the original pre and pre plus. should be able to do the same for the Veer if someone put their mind to it. PLZ!
would be interested in running android on my pre3.
missing the android market a lot.
pre3 should have some potential for developers I guess.
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If it's ported to the Touchpad, It could very well be added to the Pre, the only thing is how the Home/Menu/Back Buttons would work.
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I think it would be easier to handle these buttons when Ice Cream Sandwich reaches AOSP
Or SB develop driver to handle gestures like swipe to left = "back", swipe to right = "menu" and just tap = "home".
Any news?
XDA-developers has Beta MIUI.us Tenderloin HP TouchPad 2.3.7 by scott951 done, does anybody know if i can use this ROM to install android on HP Veer 4G?
I tried with alpha releases and nothing.
I'm curious about buying an HP phone too. The Pre3 looks nice but I think I want the Veer.
Maybe someone will develop an Android version to work on them. The issue with the home/back/menu buttons would be solved if they used 4.0. I think there's an app in the market that uses on screen buttons too.
~100 Euros for such a nice piece of hardware, the only thing holding me back is the fact that my whole life works around my android handset
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I own a Touchpad and a Pre3, running one of the latest ICS nightlies from Eyeballer on the Touchpad and it rocks dual boot with WebOS.
It would rock to have it on the Pre3 too, as WebOS doesn't have whatsapp, which is needed on a phone these days.
As the Pre and Pre2 had some Android version running, I was hoping the Touchpad ICS could be ported to Pre3 pretty easily.
Not as many Pre3's out there as there are Touchpads, but still reasonable numbers I think as they were sold in UK, France, Germany and some other countries. If I look at this picture the Pre3 would be a candidate for ICS/CM9
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ps: this topic has over 20.000 views... There IS interest for such a rom!
ps2: poll for ICS/CM9 on Pre3 --> forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/46686-porting-cm7cm9-to-hp-pre-3/