What is rmnet and ppp ??? - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

please explain what it stands for and what they both me.. im so clue less

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=776249&highlight=rmnet+ppp

that still doesnt explain anything.. wat do it stand for? and what does it do? Im a noob so can you please explain as if you are teaching a 10year old

Let me get you started and hopefully you can catch on from there:
http://tinyurl.com/2uwmu46

quality
Svegetto said:
Let me get you started and hopefully you can catch on from there:
great link to a lazy question
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PPP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Protocol and http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3713
RMNet: . RmNet is a proprietary USB virtual Ethernet framework developed by Qualcomm for its mobile phone platforms. RmNet provides for improved throughput via the Thin Layer Protocol (TLP) and allows for Quality of Service flow control, which is necessary for a quality end-user experience in today's mobile network
But if you don't know, then it really does not matter to you.
RMNet and PPP both have their problems right now as far as which is used for data connection on a ported android build. All that should matter is when they get one of them 100%, choose that one.

PPP
ha I found it
http://www.pppinc.net/
hmm hmm hmm

Svegetto said:
Let me get you started and hopefully you can catch on from there:
http://tinyurl.com/2uwmu46
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lol i totally forgot about that google thing

This is by far one of the best answers I've read to this question........this week lol.
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How do i choose which one i wanna use

flyboyzeya said:
How do i choose which one i wanna use
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Usually the chef will tell you in his thread post which one it is.
In pongsters if you edit the startup.txt you can decide there. So if your like me and wanted to tether which can only be done using rmnet. You could change the startup.txt to reflet the usage of rmnet. On the flipside if you were out and about and wanted to use ppp you would do the same with the startup.txt
Pongsters build is awesome but If you dont pay attention to what your doing things may not work correctly.

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Bluetooth GPS - Which one?

Hi altogether,
I want to buy a bluetooth GPS Mouse to use with my Wizard.
Actually I ogle with the CMJ-1000.
Has someone experiences with this one or can recommend me another one?
Should be not that expensive.
I want to use it in the car, while biking and walking/hiking.
Thanks in advance.
bmueller77 said:
Hi altogether,
I want to buy a bluetooth GPS Mouse to use with my Wizard.
Actually I ogle with the CMJ-1000.
Has someone experiences with this one or can recommend me another one?
Should be not that expensive.
I want to use it in the car, while biking and walking/hiking.
Thanks in advance.
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Search just a little please... this is a thread just a few down from your new one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295300 I personally have given up on recommending accessories as someone will always have a new/better/different suggestion. Read the thread, you'll see some ideas. Let us know what you end up doing so others can benefit.
--M
demontefixo said:
Search just a little please... this is a thread just a few down from your new one... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295300 I personally have given up on recommending accessories as someone will always have a new/better/different suggestion. Read the thread, you'll see some ideas. Let us know what you end up doing so others can benefit.
--M
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Sorry, but I read this thread before I posted this one ;-). First, the thread is quite old and did not contain the information I am looking for.
Perhaps I didn't specify my question good enough. "This device xy works fine for me" doesn't help me, because I don't know the needs of the user who is posting.
Perhaps someone who knows, could give some information, which Specs are needed/recommended/needless to different usages.
bmueller77 said:
Sorry, but I read this thread before I posted this one ;-). First, the thread is quite old and did not contain the information I am looking for.
Perhaps I didn't specify my question good enough. "This device xy works fine for me" doesn't help me, because I don't know the needs of the user who is posting.
Perhaps someone who knows, could give some information, which Specs are needed/recommended/needless to different usages.
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Well... just about any BT GPS receiver will work, so look for the form factor that suits your needs. Buy a receiver that has at least a SiRF III chip. Here is a site that has a bunch of receivers http://www.usglobalsat.com/ I use the BT359, I drive, I walk, I use it biking but not while I am riding (electronics, biking, death...all too related ) Someone else suggested the iBlue 737 as seen here http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=175&page=5
Something you'll have to decide is whether you want data logging. That is useful if you are using the receiver without a live BT-phone connection.
Mostly you need to think about what mode you are going to use it in most frequently. For me, its the car (where I have power so I can overclock the phone), but I do use it elsewhere but it just "depends".
--M
PS you could have added to the old thread and it would have "become new again".
just thought I'd give an update
BT-359 with TomTom 7 works absolutely perfect on WM 6.1 ROM
indeed
eghoti1 said:
just thought I'd give an update
BT-359 with TomTom 7 works absolutely perfect on WM 6.1 ROM
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as you said it works perfect smooth.... fast.... enough to use while driving a car so if some one looks for a little help (im no expert but like to help) you are welcome
GOOD LUCK
Check these guys out for great price and quality bluetooth GPS
This site has a lot of great options bluetooth including bury and a a lot more..... I got min here [http://www.myphonetrader.com/shop_by_price.php?range=14

[Q] Bluetooth 3.0..... So now what?

Other than ofcourse Wikipedia, which was hard to understand..my Google search results came up empty!
From what I've seen Galaxy S is th only phone with Bluetooth 3.0..
I'm just curious as to what this will bring to the table that other phones will not be able to...
I hope there are some nifty bluetooth gadgets in production for our vibrant!
faster data transfer through bluetooth.
You will be prevented from using the Ryan Frawley's Wiimote App! Congratulations on your bluetooth 3.0 phone!
(And to provide at least some helpful information, he has not responded to any questions about the galaxy s line, our future froyo update may fix this for us).
@PathogenX, Yes I knew that...
@SquareBare yes i'm also aware of that.. i'll just have to wait... i'm liking the multi touch control... which works perfectly so i don't mind waiting til froyo to see what happends ...
i guess i was looking to see if this will mean video streaming or something... i think i saw an article like that b4.. but can't remember
anyways Thank you both for ur fast replies ...!!
The SGS family is the only smartphones in the world (if i'm not mistaken) to have BT 3.0. Okay, the Samsung Wave had it first.
solidkundi said:
@PathogenX, Yes I knew that...
@SquareBare yes i'm also aware of that.. i'll just have to wait... i'm liking the multi touch control... which works perfectly so i don't mind waiting til froyo to see what happends ...
i guess i was looking to see if this will mean video streaming or something... i think i saw an article like that b4.. but can't remember
anyways Thank you both for ur fast replies ...!!
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There's these things called quotes, you know
i hope this is not breaking xda rules or something...
i usually use them when my replies are not on the same page as the reply...
SquareBare said:
You will be prevented from using the Ryan Frawley's Wiimote App! Congratulations on your bluetooth 3.0 phone!
(And to provide at least some helpful information, he has not responded to any questions about the galaxy s line, our future froyo update may fix this for us).
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Amen! At least I'm not the only one upset that he refuses to find a work around for this!
briguydj32 said:
Amen! At least I'm not the only one upset that he refuses to find a work around for this!
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Well, more of the blame lies on samsung than Mr. Frawley.
I read somewhere on these forums that Samsung implemented the bluetooth standard in a somewhat bizarre way. Kind of like how you have to swap wires around when you are connecting the video cable to your TV.
From what I see though, Samsung has acknowledged the issue and will correct it with the upcoming froyo update.
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Well, more of the blame lies on samsung than Mr. Frawley.
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Samsung gets the blame for using the latest technology? How does that work?
I read in a press release from January of last year that the two main features of 3.0 is faster transfer and better battery life. In addition there is suppose to be some security enhancements.
It uses 802.11 to transfer the files like wifi does to transfer files to and from you phone.
http://www.gsmarena.com/bluetooth_30_specs_revealed_goes_up_to_11_thanks_to_80211-news-885.php
This isn't the article that I found before but this is one from the source.
http://www.bluetooth.com/English/Press/Pages/PressReleasesDetail.aspx?ID=16
The article I seen explained the bt/wifi thing better and said that bt 4.0 should be out by the end of this year.

[Q] Wireless Tether/Sharing Killed By Tmobile!

Hey Guys a problem just occured. I was surfing via wireless tether on my awesome rooted vibrant...... when all of the sudden i opened or changed a page at 12:00am 11/15/2010 when a lovely new page from Tmobile Popped up "GET A TETHERING/ Wifi Sharing plan for only $14.99 a month" and was obv garnished in pink and blue as tmobile is.
10 minutes previous to 12:00 am. I recieved a "free mobile message: Tethering & Wi-fi sharing access will be blocked unless you add a Phone tethering & wi-fi Sharing plan available at my.tmobile.com"
12:00am "free tmobile message: Tethering & Wi-fi sharing has been blocked" Please go spend all your goddamned money on more of our services because you dont pay us enough yet for your not quite... but paying for -- 4g service....
I am rooted with clockwork 2.5.1.2.. . . WTF is my question to tmobile... and Gents what can we do about this situation?
How do they know you are tethering? Since they can't see what your doing on your phone...
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fenixnr said:
How do they know you are tethering? Since they can't see what your doing on your phone...
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Ya know... Great question and i seriously wish i knew. I believe that wireless tethering for the vibrant was originally loaded on all the "vibrants" and tmo took them off because they did not like the idea of their well invested bandwidth going into a NON-tmobile product. So a remnant of that SW might have a database. I'm just throwing out conjecture. But i need that back w/o paying out the ass.
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I quite disagree. If i post this in APPS then it will eventually make it here for "Android development" also known as modified hacking. I would much rather pay a person on this forum a generous donation as i have times so far to fix this situation.
Ahardin said:
I quite disagree. If i post this in APPS then it will eventually make it here for "Android development" also known as modified hacking. I would much rather pay a person on this forum a generous donation as i have times so far to fix this situation.
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i beleive a "[Q]" is suppose to belong in Q&A section. maybe its just me. oh well.
fenixnr said:
How do they know you are tethering? Since they can't see what your doing on your phone...
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If they force all internet traffic to go through a proxy, they can easily check that.
Ahardin said:
I quite disagree. If i post this in APPS then it will eventually make it here for "Android development" also known as modified hacking. I would much rather pay a person on this forum a generous donation as i have times so far to fix this situation.
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And you'd be quite wrong. The development section is for discussion of development on the device, not questions that might eventually lead to development.
So, unless you're starting this thread with the intent of writing an app that gets around T-Mobile's tethering block, it's the wrong section.
What rom & tethering app were you using? Mobile ap still worked when I was tethering at 2 am pst today. (using unofficial stock jk2)
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AFAIK your not a mod as you?
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Bionix Fusion 1.2 [yes, i gotta update my signature].
MobileAP was working last night.
MobileAP still works fine for me. Currently usind Anderdroids AOSPish JK2 1.1 rom.
First of all, specifying a time (12am) does no good unless you give us a time zone.
Secondly, I dont understand what you are complaining about. You are not paying for the tethering, correct? So why are you expecting to tether? If you don't like this, why not try another carrier... Please let us know when you find a carrier that offers free tethering.
Third, it is trivial for tmobile to detect tethering. If you don't know why, that is your problem - not theirs.
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wrong section. plz post in Q&A. and i am tethering right now.
I did a quick test and wireless tethering still works for me. I'm using the loyalty android plan on a rooted JI6.
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Wrong Section. . . . . . . . . . . .
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didyourecognize said:
wrong section. plz post in Q&A. and i am tethering right now.
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nerdcorerising said:
And you'd be quite wrong. The development section is for discussion of development on the device, not questions that might eventually lead to development.
So, unless you're starting this thread with the intent of writing an app that gets around T-Mobile's tethering block, it's the wrong section.
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^^^
If: above posters < moderators
Then: above posters = non-moderators
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And also, the OP is not asking if Tethering is working for us! What hes asking is if theres any other way to Tether, or bypass the transfer limit!
At OP: Im not sure how exactly they keep track of tethering, but i do know that they have incorporated a transfer limit that will allow us to tether for free for only so long. I understand your frustration as I came from the MotoCliq and we were able to unlimited tether for free using the WiFi Tethering app or Barnacle....i do believe those do not work one our phone, so there really is much you can do as of right now
TopShelf10 said:
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If: above posters < moderators
Then: above posters = non-moderators
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And also, the OP is not asking if Tethering is working for us! What hes asking is if theres any other way to Tether, or bypass the transfer limit!
At OP: Im not sure how exactly they keep track of tethering, but i do know that they have incorporated a transfer limit that will allow us to tether for free for only so long. I understand your frustration as I came from the MotoCliq and we were able to unlimited tether for free using the WiFi Tethering app or Barnacle....i do believe those do not work one our phone, so there really is much you can do as of right now
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FWIW, both Barnacle and Android Wi-Fi tether do indeed work (at least on Eclair, not sure about Froyo).
I'd be curious to know how exactly T-mo is detecting this as well. Sniffing traffic and looking for http user agents? Seems like a lot of work to go through just to catch the small percentage of users who tether without their plan, especially seeing as how everybody is capped anyway.
Of course, if T-mo is actually sniffing your traffic and inspecting packets, Barnacle and Wi-Fi tether wouldn't help you hide what you're doing anyway. One option would be to use a tunnel or a VPN to obfuscate what you're doing whenever you're tethering.
I'm contractless on T-Mo now, and if I lose the ability to tether I'm definitely going to be frustrated, maybe to the point where I'll jump ship. That's not worth $15/mo when I'm already capped at 5GB!
I just checked via wireless tethering on a rooted bionix fusion 1.2 build and it worked just fine for me at 730am MST. Have you tried any proxy pages? So far it seems to be just your phoen OP that isn't tethering.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9223455#post9223455
Reported in G2 forum also, with PDANet.
Barnacle is working great for me, what program are you using?

[Q] Override Throttling

Hey!
Has anyone tried this services.jar modification to override throttling? I wanted to see if anyone had compiled it for the Galaxy\Vibrant and if it worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
Thanks!
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beren28 said:
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how nice of u.......
anyways op, yes it has been discussed a couple times, best bet try looking a couple pages back..or just get root explorer and delete the throttle folder
Here is the link OP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872570
T.C.P said:
how nice of u.......
anyways op, yes it has been discussed a couple times, best bet try looking a couple pages back..or just get root explorer and delete the throttle folder
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this does not work... at least on my phones... trust me once you delete the throttle folder and contents inside 30 mins later its back... and deleting it DOES NOT REMOVE THROTTLE!
one of my lines has been throttled OVER a month and a half... tmobile gave me a 60 dollar credit because of network problems... get over it... you cant stop throttling and if you think you did or (improve it by deleting the throttle files) i want a video of it actually getting 3g again NOT 70kbs or 80kbs
currently throttled on two phones
tried everything under the sun even the service.jar doesnt work
best of luck
To answer your question though... no it doesn't work.
My friend uses my old touch pro2 since he lost his hd2 and his data plan says something else... it doesn't say 3g or 4g unlimited data. Just says something weird like internet... but be gets the same speeds as I do.
My plan says 4G (for some reason, never changed it from whe I used to use my tp2 but those assholes at t mobile did) but my friends data NEVER gets throttled NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES! Even on his t mobile account when you go to data usage it says 0/0 "this information is not available" so they don't even monitor his data use!
It's bull**** because my plan should be the exact same as his! I had my plan grandfathered too! There should be no difference... ugh hate T Mobile.
To those that actually answered, thank you for the responses!
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To Mr. "I'm a stereotypical XDA flamer, wrong section yada yada", this is NOT a typical Q&A post, but a developer related question regarding compatibility of a service.jar mod for our phone. I needed an answer for someone who knew there stuff........ BTW, my avatar is sure better than yours . Why don't you contribute instead of making a useless 1st response...... It's for reasons like your post that we need an anti-thanks button now
Everyone else: thanks for confirming my hunch, I had a feeling it wouldnt work, but I figured I'd see if anyone else had any luck.
The services.jar mod was actually tested in "private beta test" on several versions of Trigger by myself and several other testers (with mod help from Birg). I can tell you that in all cases we were not successful. Our methods included the services.jar mod, deletion of the throttle folder completely, deletion of the files inside the throttle folder and permissions change of that folder, and modification of the files in the throttle folder.
The project was abandoned.
rorycs said:
The services.jar mod was actually tested in "private beta test" on several versions of Trigger by myself and several other testers (with mod help from Birg). I can tell you that in all cases we were not successful. Our methods included the services.jar mod, deletion of the throttle folder completely, deletion of the files inside the throttle folder and permissions change of that folder, and modification of the files in the throttle folder.
The project was abandoned.
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Now this is what I'm talking about!. Thanks a lot for the information, Rorycs . Its unfortunate that no one found a way around it, but its great to know that people already tried....no use reinventing the wheel
Um? You guys know you have to break the throttle settings in the Phone.apk as well right.
eugene373 said:
Um? You guys know you have to break the throttle settings in the Phone.apk as well right.
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Give it a try Eugene. You seem to know.
That mod didn't work. It did increase my upload speed though but decreasing my download speeds.
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eugene373 said:
Um? You guys know you have to break the throttle settings in the Phone.apk as well right.
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Hey Eugene,
Actually from what I know and have seen this is the first time phone.apk has been mentioned. I was coordinating the test, but I am not a dev by any means. If you would care to help out and give it a shot, I'd be happy to reconstitute the beta team.
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rorycs said:
Hey Eugene,
Actually from what I know and have seen this is the first time phone.apk has been mentioned. I was coordinating the test, but I am not a dev by any means. If you would care to help out and give it a shot, I'd be happy to reconstitute the beta team.
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Honestly I don't have the time to invest on this... But you can't just break the throttle in service.jar & expect it to work.. You have to break the Throttle settings completely to over ride this or enter in your own Values to make it work...
Currently though, even this hack with be done away with shortly as monitoring will be done on the server side from what I hear.
~Eugene
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take it easy dude...he's been longtime xda user and usually knows what he's doing...check out his helpful posts in the past.
Yes, that is what I was given to understand as well. Currently my source tells me that they basically are "pinging" the device to check if a flag is set so that it can be turned on and off during and at the end of the bill cycle. I have not been able to get a projected date for a full server side implementation though. If it is a short term switch I agree that it might not be worth all the development and testing....
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eugene373 said:
Honestly I don't have the time to invest on this... But you can't just break the throttle in service.jar & expect it to work.. You have to break the Throttle settings completely to over ride this or enter in your own Values to make it work...
Currently though, even this hack with be done away with shortly as monitoring will be done on the server side from what I hear.
~Eugene
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Thanks for the info, Eugene. This is a new area of experimentation for me, so I wasn't sure how deep the "throttle" setting was embedded within service.jar & Android (seems its a lot deeper than I thought). I figured they would eventually switch to a server based throttling like Verizon, but I had hopes.....
Always appreciate your advice!
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take it easy dude...he's been longtime xda user and usually knows what he's doing...check out his helpful posts in the past.
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Appreciate the "support" man. Goes to show, you are always learning......

Any programmers have some time to burn?

I have googled the possibility and existences of an app that allows your phone to be used as an earpiece for your tablet/computer/ps3 but although i have found alot of interest in the topic, no one has an answer. so now i'm asking the great xda minds for their help. i will donate 20 dollars to working app that i can put on my tablet that allows my phone to take calls and be use as an "earpiece" for the tablet. i don't care if it's an app that turns the phone into an assessery or simply uses BT to transfer the voice data to the phone via two apps. my final goal is this:
have a tablet with my number/data plan
use tether to my phone/laptop
use phone to take/make calls on the lapdock
simply leave the tablet in my bag to use as a "cool" assessory but use the phone and laptop to do my work.
and, yes, i know i can use a BT earpiece as a replacment for for all this, but i hate something attached to my ear and i think that people talking to air is kinda goofy (i would say nerdy but this is obviously more nerdy ).
thanks for your time
this is NOT a question, this is a development request. please don't move to thread that developers won't read...
So essentially an a2dp app? Or... can't recall the protocol name. Starts with an H. Its like HVDO or something.
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
Aha!!!??!!
So your Tablet is your Networked device, you tether a laptop for internet as-well as your phone......
This is because you only want to pay for one internet/calling network account i guess???
You'll find some interesting stuff on SourceForge.net essentially your windows laptop is capable of doing this, so i'm definite there is a linux version witch you can port to your Android device... And then simply code a nice GUI in Java......
Well Im studying atm so I can't help lol
It's HSP/HFP/AVRCP profiles for bluetooth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#Advanced_Audio_Distribution_Profile_.28A2DP.29
OP - this doesnt belong here. Devs read all sections of the forum. Reported.
jgc121 said:
OP - this doesnt belong here. Devs read all sections of the forum. Reported.
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How is it not development? It's not really a question, theme, or general talk. But, whatever the deb's decide.
chaosjh said:
How is it not development? It's not really a question, theme, or general talk. But, whatever the deb's decide.
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"Any programmers have some time to burn?" sounds like a question to me. Just saying.
knigitz said:
"Any programmers have some time to burn?" sounds like a question to me. Just saying.
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this is NOT a question, this is a development request. please don't move to thread that developers won't read...
he said it in his first post

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