Hi all. I've been looking for this issue around the net and haven't found anything.
I've sent 1 sms with 175 letters (it's not much) and the phone divided it in 4 and charged me for 4 sms's. I have the maximum size for messages set on 300k (I guess it means 300 letters or dots or whatever).
Does anyone gets this in their HERO?
Anyone has a solution?
Thanks in advance
sms messages contain a maximum of 160 characters including spaces, if you sent 175 characters including spaces you would have been charged for 2 sms messages.
The 300k limit you are talking about is for mms messages. If you sent the sms as a mms then the charges you would incur would be dependant on your provider.
You have to pick either sms or mms depending on what your sending the software will not guess for you.
Also if you sent an SMS containing any 'special' characters it would have been sent in Unicode which in this case each character will occupy 2 bytes. I can see how you ended up with 4 messages.
by your user name, i suppose your Polish? Using Polish characters (ąęółńżź) uses up more "sms space" just like TheBrit wrote.
I didn't use any special characters, only letters, dots, spaces and comas. I'm Portuguese, so I use regular characters.
I would accept to be charged for 2 sms´s, but 4?? it's ridiculous.
This must be some kind of a bug, this has happened before, but only now I realised something was wrong.
Thanks for the replies.
I have a similar problem... when I type normal sentences, the letter-count is ok.. but when I type a letter that you can select when holding a letter (e.g. you hold the letter "o" and you select ô) the message-count jumps automatically to 2 or 3... it's really annoying... is this also a bug?
No, it is correct behaviour if you are using a character that isn't represented in the 8-bit ASCII character set. As has been previously mentioned, unicode characters effectively take up more "space" than a regular character - the SMS 160 character limit is based on using 8-bit characters.
Regards,
Dave
that's pretty sh**y
thanks anyway
I found out that the limit in my Hero is 145 characters, but if I type only 3 special characters like é â ç, the limit drops to 63 characters in 1 sms. Just by typing 3 letters like those (ê ç ô) I lose 82 characters. Could this be a network provider limitation for sms's when using non 8-bit ASCII characters? Or is it the phone?
Anyway, this very annoying we have to type incorrectly to be able to send a bigger sms.
zbrinski said:
I found out that the limit in my Hero is 145 characters, but if I type only 3 special characters like é â ç, the limit drops to 63 characters in 1 sms. Just by typing 3 letters like those (ê ç ô) I lose 82 characters. Could this be a network provider limitation for sms's when using non 8-bit ASCII characters? Or is it the phone?
Anyway, this very annoying we have to type incorrectly to be able to send a bigger sms.
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Because they are non-ascii characters the whole message has to be in unicode. Unicode can have characters up to 8 bytes to cope with things like chinese or japanese charcters. When using the extra characters used in some european languages the character set uses all 2 byte characters - even for 'normal' ascii chacters. The 2 byte charcter set is part of Unicode and is known as UTF-16. Normal ascii is also known as UTF-8.
This is not your phone's fault or even the network's fault. It's just the way things are. Read about it here.
In my hero i dont see the number of characters during I write the SMS!!!
Why? Where is the settings to show it??
Bye
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Because they are non-ascii characters the whole message has to be in unicode. Unicode can have characters up to 8 bytes to cope with things like chinese or japanese charcters. When using the extra characters used in some european languages the character set uses all 2 byte characters - even for 'normal' ascii chacters. The 2 byte charcter set is part of Unicode and is known as UTF-16. Normal ascii is also known as UTF-8.
This is not your phone's fault or even the network's fault. It's just the way things are. Read about it here.
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No, it's not. With other terminals this isn't happening. It's a bug in Android code and it's supposed to be fixed in donut. Let's see when the fix arrives to the Hero.
More info here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2719
That is *not* the same issue! Related in a way, yes, but otherwise different.
The point that "TheBrit" and others are making is that use of a unicode character set effectively means each SMS is going to be less than 160 characters. The fact that there is a bug in Android when a long SMS message is split is a different issue.
Regards,
Dave
I think it's the same issue.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2600
This one is merged with issue 2719. Two different problems only one Android bug.The SMS application does not manage extended characters (accented chars, ñ
char and others) correctly. A extended character takes more space than a
normal character. Don't know how other handsets do this, but you can use extended characters and be within 160 chars! No need for unicode eating the chars.
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In my hero i dont see the number of characters during I write the SMS!!!
Why? Where is the settings to show it??
Bye
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The phone only shows the number of characters left, when you are near the limit of the number of characters the message has , it shows the count of the last 10 characters to make a total of 145.
If you pass the 145 ch it will always show the the character counter in the up right corner of the typing box.(but if you type in landscape mode, it doesn't show the count)
anyone know how to increase sms group limit of 10
Just been searching for a fix for this, any luck?
Maybe I need to change my search terms?
Yes, a fix is in vrtweaks for villainrom 1.4. Also lets you send over 4 sms without it converting to mms
Thx for tweaking pulsar!
What i also find very anoying is when sending group sms and one recepient has only a email saved, the whole sms is send to all recepients as an mms! Produced me some unwanted extra costs..
Just wanted to let you know
you can also use "handcent sms" oder "gosms" from the market.
they're much prettier than the stock sms app and you can send group sms to all the phonebook eg or tick off the conversion to mms and stuff like that
I changed max sent from 10 to 100, and sms convert to mms after 40
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144354
Hello guys
Does the HTC Mozart have a maximum capacity for conversation size?
I have just started receiving messages from the person I text the most (probably a few hundred texts a month for 9 months) that appear at the top as normal but when entering the conversation it shows the previous message she sent. I also does not add my texts on at the end of the conversation.
The phone has plenty of storage space (nearly 2gb free) so the only other thing (unless the phone is on the blink must be it can only handle conversations of a certain size?
Secondly, hundreds have asked but has anyone found a way of removing and saving texts/conversations off the phone with paying a fortune for developer access. Even removing the core file or making a copy of it through a PC would be handy? then I can delete texts in the knowledge I have the atleast back up in a file I cannot access
I am bothered with the 160 sms character limit on my P768 perhaps somebody could figure out how to make it unlimitted. by the way my phone is already rooted and downgraded from 10d to 10a
It is the nature of SMS standard, it limited to 160 characters per message.
SMS means "Short Message System".
you need write something "short"
that is point!
Longer than 160 characters will split to multiple messages.
or use email to send long message
Lolz. Are you confused with SMS and Email? No matter you write any length SMS, yr mobile operator will split it into many SMS and will charge for each 160 chars SMS. Some phones allow longer SMS but they are split and charged for each slice.
Sent from my LG-P765 using xda app-developers app
As title indicates, when I send long text messages using the default Samsung app, it splits them up, even when the message is above 85 but below 100 characters. I have verified this happens when sending to 2 different Verizon phones. Both Samsung, 1 using Samsung messages the other Verizon Messages+.
I did test by sending messages with Android messages, and those send fine, don't split. So it seems that Samsung Messages isn't converting the sms to mms? Why is it splitting when the message is well below 160 characters?
I guess you are using unicode (ie non-us) characters. Such characters are two bytes in length so it splits it in half
Actually I have it set to Automatic, I did test with GSM Alphabet and Unicode just to look for differences, there were no changes.