This may sound odd, but I need to "destroy" my hd2 so I can turn it in for warranty reasons. I currently have a custom ROM, and am going to flash back to stock ROM and spl, then do whatever is needed to "break" it.
I just need to make sure that they can't fix it...would pulling the USB cable while flashing a ROM do the trick? I don't want the damn thing "fixed" and sent back to me!!!
Any/best ideas on permanently bricking this phone?
(I have a warranty that will refund me the ORIGINAL value of this phone ($500+), that is why I am doing this. I am tired of WM issues, and having to go through the BS of loading Android (and the lags/freezes that go with that also)...just in case you were wondering why I want to do this )
So your looking for advice on how to commit fraud?
Should take you about 10 seconds to search for "brick tmous hd2" and find the answer...........
By the looks of this thread, it isn't the first time you want to do some fishy stuff....
If you're so desperate in bricking your phone, why don't you just sell it to someone??
Grtz,
Degake
conantroutman said:
So your looking for advice on how to commit fraud?
Should take you about 10 seconds to search for "brick tmous hd2" and find the answer...........
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How is it fraud? If its broke...ITS BROKE! Does it really matter how?
degake said:
By the looks of this thread, it isn't the first time you want to do some fishy stuff....
If you're so desperate in bricking your phone, why don't you just sell it to someone??
Grtz,
Degake
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Hey, thanks for checkin up on me man! No it isnt,,,and that worked grat last time as well!
Why dont I sell it....hmmm...know anyone who will give me $500 for a used HD2? Didnt think so...thats why!
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How is it fraud? If its broke...ITS BROKE! Does it really matter how?
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Normally, warranty will only cover damage/problems that aren't user-invoked, so....
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Do you think we can unlock a t-mobile ameo with this tread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=240784
If it doesn't work can you explain me why. And do you think we can modified this method to unlock the Ameo? If yes how? Thanks
Well, it looks like nobody has tried it on Ameo yet....
I have TMob anyway, so I certainly will not be the first to test it
Hello, do you think I can brick my Ameo if I try this method? Thanks
I am not aware of Brickage from this, but a few people reported odd radio problems or strange sim problems when it didnt work.
The biggest problem would be locking the phone completely from all sims!
I guess its a gamble somebody will have to take, but I dont expect it to work.
HTC have done some major work since the older handsets this was written for.
So do you think I can try this or not? thanks
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So do you think I can try this or not? thanks
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Are you looking for someone to blame if it breaks your Athena?
If you can afford to buy another unit if you brick yours, then the answer is yes, go ahead and try it.
As Pantaloonie says, Its up to you.
I can say this, I will NOT try it on my Ameo.
Many HTC phones have been bricked during the development of roms and tools on this site, a lot of them have then been recovered by later tools developed to save the early testers from bricked devices while others stayed as hardware donors.
We all owe these pioneers a lot, without people willing to take the jump/plunge/leap whatever we wouldnt have half this stuff.
That doesnt mean you have to be one of them though.
This is a rogers rom I was wondering if anyone has it out there or a program that could extract it cause I have a friend who has that rom and I would like it on my phone thanks.
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This is a rogers rom I was wondering if anyone has it out there or a program that could extract it cause I have a friend who has that rom and I would like it on my phone thanks.
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Rogers Canada doesn't even sell a Hermes Device, you need to figure out what kind of device you have and then see if there is a forum for it.
yes they do check the website http://www.shoprogers.com/business/...BPRB7CKGVECV4DAK5&PRODUCTID=TYTNREN&summary=1
GUESS WHAT N00b 1.40.30.00 is not a ROM but a radio .nb so why dont you go read the wiki before you ask foolish questions and make a fool out yourself on this forum or end up bricking your device!!!! better yet just ship me your hermes and i'll take good care of it unlike you !!!!!!!!
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yes they do check the website http://www.shoprogers.com/business/...BPRB7CKGVECV4DAK5&PRODUCTID=TYTNREN&summary=1
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They just came out with one then, I was in Rogers 2 weeks ago and they had no idea what I was talking about.
I have to agree with austinsync, you have days of reading ahead of you before you should be doing anything unless you prefer to try and make calls with a paper weight.
Thanks for the info re:rogers having HTC hermes.
Hi there. I have/had wizard g4, but after upgradin' rom by ruu my phone is bricked. he doesn't even respone to charger.
Now technical details: upgrade was done on i/spl 2.21.001/olip, so after hardspl'ing him. Everythin' went just fine, but in 73% i've realised that i'm uploadin' g3 rom... So i let ruu finish his job and now my pda is completly dead.
I won't be askin' for HELP, i will ask for info. Will anyone can tell me: if i take out 'disk on chip' (cause i think that's the flashrom chip), how i can reflash it? I mean: should i just put nk.nbf from 0x0000 or split rom image onto bootloader, radio and os and put it partially? what are adressess of those thinx and lenght of code? and how can i split nk.nbf?
Congrats !
What your are asking is not easy to do,it requires special flashing tools and connectors,which only the manufacturers and vendors have,It needs new bootloaders,you cannot do it yourself.DOC chip might have to be replaced,it means an almost new phone
Btw,have you tried to force it into bootloaders ? might be lucky,if it gets into bootloaders.well there's no harm in trying,if it does,then you might in luck and safe.
whatdy'a mean sayin' 'force it into bootloader'? if you mean pressing cam button while poweing it on- yes i've tried. i even tried to boot linux on desktop computer, connectin' wizard and typin' 'lsusb' in console, hoping that something like 'xxxx:xxxx unkown vendor' occurs. But, still no luck. even linux thoughts that usb port with connected wiz is free.
I know that only vendors and sevice-guyz know 'tricks' about connecting directly to DOC chip... but i'm still hopeing, cause i've found two unused connector places on mainboard(after disassemblin' of corse)- one in the middle, second next to sim card connector and i'm wondering if there's any chance to ommit BGA-welding(sorry 4 my english).
Have you heard about conspiracy theory ? i begun to belive in it... I think that many people know what 2 do, but noone want to help me from one particular reason: if someone helps me, i wouldn't need to pay in service, so someone will not earn money...
anyway, what do you mean about 'force in2 bl'?
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whatdy'a mean sayin' 'force it into bootloader'? if you mean pressing cam button while poweing it on- yes i've tried. i even tried to boot linux on desktop computer, connectin' wizard and typin' 'lsusb' in console, hoping that something like 'xxxx:xxxx unkown vendor' occurs. But, still no luck. even linux thoughts that usb port with connected wiz is free.
I know that only vendors and sevice-guyz know 'tricks' about connecting directly to DOC chip... but i'm still hopeing, cause i've found two unused connector places on mainboard(after disassemblin' of corse)- one in the middle, second next to sim card connector and i'm wondering if there's any chance to ommit BGA-welding(sorry 4 my english).
Have you heard about conspiracy theory ? i begun to belive in it... I think that many people know what 2 do, but noone want to help me from one particular reason: if someone helps me, i wouldn't need to pay in service, so someone will not earn money...
anyway, what do you mean about 'force in2 bl'?
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First,let me clear you here, There's no such "Conspiracy theory" being practiced here in this Forum.It's a development Forum and not a Technical Advisory Service of some sort,where experts give advise and earn money.Its a free forum to help the newbies about the problem regarding their phones,We here believe in "Help & Support".The guys and gurus are not trained technical experts,its a voluntary website,where guys help and advise what they have learned and gained to the new guys joining and asking for help and they do it with honesty and to the best of their knowledge without any monetary benefits.
Secondly,Yes ! thats exactly what I meant for 'Force into booltloaders',cuz,may be if it does boot in the bootloaders,then it might be recovered,just a haunch,but if it doesn't,then its another dead paper weight on the desk.
Cheers!
I think it's a misunderstood there. I mean that maybe someone know what to do, but if it would leak to internet then services can lost money, cause what to pay 50$ i.e. if you can repair PDA by yourself?. I mean also that i've searched whole wide web... My polish sites of electronics, pda forums, even those forums where volunteers helps guys who crashed their bioses on PC's. And nothin', no one replies to mails, and if i ask someone directly they say thats no hope for me and my PDA.
I just cannot believe it... Even old PC had protection, if you uploaded wrong code into BIOS and PC cannot boot you always could ISA graphic card and boot from floppy.
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I think it's a misunderstood there. I mean that maybe someone know what to do, but if it would leak to internet then services can lost money, cause what to pay 50$ i.e. if you can repair PDA by yourself?. I mean also that i've searched whole wide web... My polish sites of electronics, pda forums, even those forums where volunteers helps guys who crashed their bioses on PC's. And nothin', no one replies to mails, and if i ask someone directly they say thats no hope for me and my PDA.
I just cannot believe it... Even old PC had protection, if you uploaded wrong code into BIOS and PC cannot boot you always could ISA graphic card and boot from floppy.
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focus on the problem:
tell me if u can at least see the bootloader ? If yes then u can have a fair chance of bringing urs back to life
It is because you are not supposed to flash a ROM that is not for your device!
For example, what will happen if you flash a AMIBIOS to a motherboard that uses AWARDBIOS (By your own way for sure)? Flashing G3-only ROMs to G4 device is just like that.
The protection for htc device is not letting you to flash a G3 only RUU in the usual way, you cracked to let it allow any ROM is your own problem, not problem of htc, and htc doesn't have to take care of it.
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focus on the problem:
tell me if u can at least see the bootloader ?
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few posts ago i've wrote, that i cannot even see red led when pluggin' onto charger. BL mode doesn't work either (cam+ sr or cam+pwr).
i've found another way to resurrect my wiza200. JTAG.
But ofcoz noone knows where are testpoints located. But i'll find it. BTW someone can e-mail me fubu of working g4 wizard? lis6502 (at) gmail (dot) com
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For example, what will happen if you flash a AMIBIOS to a motherboard that uses AWARDBIOS (By your own way for sure)? Flashing G3-only ROMs to G4 device is just like that.
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yeah, i know what i did. i understand example of bioses misupload. i've explained in that way to some guys who doesn't understand what i did
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The protection for htc device is not letting you to flash a G3 only RUU in the usual way, you cracked to let it allow any ROM is your own problem, not problem of htc, and htc doesn't have to take care of it.
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Do i cracked it? i just found ONE working ruu which allowed me to upload any rom to my device. i've switched nk.nbf files in folder wich ruu was in.
I know also that HTC wouldn't help mi, i'm not counting on warranty or manufacturer help.
No No...
You installed HardSPL to your device, so your device is already cracked (say patched may be better) by you.
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No No...
You installed HardSPL to your device, so your device is already cracked (say patched may be better) by you.
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uhm, it may be infatile question, but is it illegal? i know thah chaging IMEI is illegal, but is hardspl'ing too?
Cracking SPL is not an offense in law, just violate the warranty terms only.
2 starwonk: man, i'm from poland. i've bought my spv on polish eqiuvalent of e-bay. It's o2 xda mini s, so warranty is only valid in UK. i've told that i'm not counting on warranty. i need and must do it all by myself. and i will do it. Wish me luck
i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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Sounds like you have bricked your phone big time.
Where on your Raphael does it say Diamond or Athena, all unlockers are device specific.
Can you enter the bootloader at all?
Ta
Dave
NO i can't enter bootloader. I can't even power up. I was testing unlocker programs and I found a program called "diamond unlocker". I thought I give it a shot and next thing you know the phone blanks out. Hard-reset doesn't work because I can't even power up.
I knew this thing cooking thing was playing with fire. What should I do now?? Stressing out big time.
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NO i can't enter bootloader. I can't even power up. I was testing unlocker programs and I found a program called "diamond unlocker". I thought I give it a shot and next thing you know the phone blanks out. Hard-reset doesn't work because I can't even power up.
I knew this thing cooking thing was playing with fire. What should I do now?? Stressing out big time.
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Hmm ok i will sidestep the "what were you thinking flashing a diamond unlocker to your raphael when your device is NOT a diamond" lecture and simply state that you have most likely messed up your device totally...unless there is something olipro/cmonex can do to help you you have a paperweight.
Sorry sir.
Would the phone be covered by warranty? I can't power it up, so i assume the techies would just replace the whole phone. Has anyone return a brick phone to technicans and what was the outcome?
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Hmm ok i will sidestep the "what were you thinking flashing a diamond unlocker to your raphael when your device is NOT a diamond" lecture and simply state that you have most likely messed up your device totally...unless there is something olipro/cmonex can do to help you you have a paperweight.
Sorry sir.
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Maybe, ViperBJK might also be able to help.
You could try PM'ing one of those three, if they can't fix it then your pretty much done for.
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jimmymob said:
i was experimenting on my htc touch pro and I flashed a program called diamond unlocker. I think it might be another name for athena unlocker. Now phone wouldn't even power up. freaking out big time. please help!!
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Let met guess,you downloaded that on a torrent site,if you donated 15 euro to olipro you did not have this problem you have now.
tinuz97 said:
Let met guess,you downloaded that on a torrent site,if you donated 15 euro to olipro you did not have this problem you have now.
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If that is the case I wouldn't hold out for help from Olipro or cmonex.
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Would the phone be covered by warranty? I can't power it up, so i assume the techies would just replace the whole phone. Has anyone return a brick phone to technicans and what was the outcome?
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Its been stated here so many times, read the instructions before you flash/do anything...
Warranty the device, maybe they dont realize what you did...
You can also admit that you didnt donate for the unlocker...
My phone was already unlocked before I install the offending program. And No I didn't download it from a torrent site or illegal warez site.
How did you get it then?
hmmmm . . . Did you try the most stupid and simple stuff, like taking the battery out for a couple of hours, taking the sim and SD card if any, etc...
I will be joining Fuze group today...
Maybe I can offer a little help, I don't know the Fuze yet, won't have one for a few hours, but I had some great success unbricking hundreds of Tilts & this led to a cooperative project ending with Jocky putting everything learned into FrankenKaiser.
I will take a look at the firmware when I get my device, after much research of course, & let you know what I think. It may be a tedious project though as it might require a redio hack to allow DL mode to be entered from OEMSBL.
Oli, Viper & Jockey are all great resources, but they get a lot of PM's so it may take some time. Once I get a feeling for it & you answer a few questions for me, I can then go to them with more than just symptoms.
Be patient & we'll get it working as we've done for hundreds of Kaiser owners.
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I will be joining the Fuze group today.
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Well that's just great. There goes the neigborhood.
GSLEON3 said:
Maybe I can offer a little help, I don't know the Fuze yet, won't have one for a few hours, but I had some great success unbricking hundreds of Tilts & this led to a cooperative project ending with Jocky putting everything learned into FrankenKaiser.
I will take a look at the firmware when I get my device, after much research of course, & let you know what I think. It may be a tedious project though as it might require a redio hack to allow DL mode to be entered from OEMSBL.
Oli, Viper & Jockey are all great resources, but they get a lot of PM's so it may take some time. Once I get a feeling for it & you answer a few questions for me, I can then go to them with more than just symptoms.
Be patient & we'll get it working as we've done for hundreds of Kaiser owners.
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unfortunately there is no access to download mode on diamond and raphael and any newer devices.
the USB interface is simply disabled, we don't know how to get around that - yet.
the other thing is, on new radios (HD, xperia, G1, etc...), the radio is locked for flashing. kaiser radio wasn't supposed to allow flashing unsigned code either, just HTC left a nice bug in the rsa check.
trust me the kaiser was heaven compared to the days now... but we like challenge don't we
so this device is a brick - he can RMA it or jtag it.
Wow, I am shocked. I've never heard a response quite like that from the esteemed cmonex That means if it is even possible, then it's burried & will take some time to finess out.
I'll tell you one thing though buddy, if its under the mfg warrentee then that's gonna be your fastest way. I know that Cmonex & Oli have spent some time poking around this area for sure, so if she says there's no way & says to RMA it, well that means we're still a good way off from finding the doorway into dload mode.
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My phone was already unlocked before I install the offending program. And No I didn't download it from a torrent site or illegal warez site.
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probably you got it from ppcgeeks site eh? the instructions says it's only for cdma :/
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Wow, I am shocked. I've never heard a response quite like that from the esteemed cmonex That means if it is even possible, then it's burried & will take some time to finess out.
I'll tell you one thing though buddy, if its under the mfg warrentee then that's gonna be your fastest way. I know that Cmonex & Oli have spent some time poking around this area for sure, so if she says there's no way & says to RMA it, well that means we're still a good way off from finding the doorway into dload mode.
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yes this will be a big challenge is what i meant above BTW it would be cool to work together =) have you got your Fuze yet?
Jup, this is also my answer :
RMA or Jtag. No other way.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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Jup, this is also my answer :
RMA or Jtag. No other way.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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No you forgot 1,still the option of trashcan
Mine is still unfder warrenty, I managed to brick it once so good that I couldnt even get into download mode, or recovery, now that the prime is gone and out of stock, if I brick it I could get credit towards a newer one. I know this is not the best thing to do but im on .21 from factory and really tired of coming back here to see no way to root it, well not without of hours of reading. So yes I actually do want to brick it. Best Buy will no longer fix them. Sorry if I sound evil.
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Mine is still unfder warrenty, I managed to brick it once so good that I couldnt even get into download mode, or recovery, now that the prime is gone and out of stock, if I brick it I could get credit towards a newer one. I know this is not the best thing to do but im on .21 from factory and really tired of coming back here to see no way to root it, well not without of hours of reading. So yes I actually do want to brick it. Best Buy will no longer fix them. Sorry if I sound evil.
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what are you talking about??? There are several or click methods for rooting older versions..... The only one not currently rootable after the fact is 4.1.
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Mine is still unfder warrenty, I managed to brick it once so good that I couldnt even get into download mode, or recovery, now that the prime is gone and out of stock, if I brick it I could get credit towards a newer one. I know this is not the best thing to do but im on .21 from factory and really tired of coming back here to see no way to root it, well not without of hours of reading. So yes I actually do want to brick it. Best Buy will no longer fix them. Sorry if I sound evil.
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So you are basically asking for help to commit fraud on Best Buy by purposefully killing your tablet so you can claim " it doesn't work and I don't know why" so as to get a replacement? Sorry can't help you.
why don't u just read the brick recovery thread and see for yourself how people got bricked.
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Sorry, I had to close this thread. It is not acceptable to ask for guidance to commit illegal acts on xda.
Please stick to the rules, guys.