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Hey there boys!
Now that HMA4 and Gullum has moved on, and therefore we don't see that much activity in the WM6 forum for prophet anymore, do you think it is time to get a new device ? Ofcouse it isn't if you just want to use a prophet but i mean if you want something that people are developing roms for, something for us flash o holics..
And.. Is there any chance that we will see more wm6 roms for Prophet? I honestly don't think Prophet Touch X is gonna come, as gullum has a hole new device, then who would actually develop anything for a old device ?
Just wanted to hear what you think.. And if anyone experienced cooker reads this please contact me as i need some help doing some few things..
~D
In France, we have a pub on TV where we can see G.Cloney in a bar, he meets a pretty girl in a bar ... and she ask him to go to drive her car !!!
Too old, time to change
But our Prophet has a beautiful GullumWM6, what else ?
Everything has an end I guess, and this end has come for our dear Prophet.
I'm glad to say that it has been one of the best devices I have used, the next device im switching to has got to have a VGA screen, it is more attractive and better looking.
I hope that the end isnt anytime though, all we can do is still hope that some ROM cooker emerges in a magical way and takes the legacy Gullum and hma4 left.
I wish I wouldnt have to say, Rest In Peace Dear. :*|
elFahd said:
Everything has an end I guess, and this end has come for our dear Prophet.
I'm glad to say that it has been one of the best devices I have used, the next device im switching to has got to have a VGA screen, it is more attractive and better looking.
I hope that the end isnt anytime though, all we can do is still hope that some ROM cooker emerges in a magical way and takes the legacy Gullum and hma4 left.
I wish I wouldnt have to say, Rest In Peace Dear. :*|
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Year its sad about the prophet.. I would really like to learn to cook, but there isn't many who can or will take the time to teach me..
But year.. The time for the prophet is over.. What VGA device is currently on the market ? Others than the Universal i haven't seen many
i went to see simple touch at my place the thing is it had same speed and cube worked the same way ,infact my prophet had album feature which single touch didn't have ,i do not know about dual or kaiser but they would be the same too.except for size of single touch i think its time to wait a bit more ,it money versus features balance ratio i guess and there is nothing super bug free ,i just hope htc have improved on answering machine softwares and call recording ,cameras ,which infact are gone way better on symbian platform from 4 years back onwards,that way we can't get everything in win mobile only ,time to change could mean time to keep an alternative platform handset too along with prophet.
Cooking time
Is it not time to do some cooking by ourselves?
At least I will give it a try, as soon as I get my hands on a good romdump. ;-)
Not yet
Nowadays HTC has no real improvements imho.
Latest Prophet roms are (almost) as good as recent official ones.
Kaiser is great (and heavy too) but lacks VGA or other things that compensate the price and size.
Touch = Prophet (more or less, so save your bucks)
Unless you're waiting for HSDPA, I see no need to change.
And if you consider to change now (and I don't, I don't even check other devices hehe), Samsung F700 (no M$ os) may be an tempting alternative. Or Imate, Toshiba, even Nokia.
Prophet is my first M$ phone and I really like it.
I also very very like this forum for apps and roms.
But I have got the feeling that my obsessive tweaking is somehow result of the os, which I consider not mature and buggy.
I think that the fact that M$ /HTC just refuses invest in updates for such an expensive device is a modern form of slavery.
So don't give in: Don't reward HTC for delivering phones without proper firmware-support by buying another (expensive!) new device from HTC.
I am eager to find out how long I'm able to stand up to my own opinion ....
I agree.
If I was to go for a new phone, it would have to be with these improvements:
- VGA or better screen
- Prosessor much faster that Prophet (I now run mine at 277 mhz without problems, can watch whole movies without glitch.)
- Much more ram and rom
- Smaller and maybe lighter
- Better connectivity
- Dedicated 3D graphic card?
- Large battery
I would also appreciate the device to be brain controlled, but you can not have it all...
My point is that the Prophet is ahead of its time, and today there is no tempting alternatives.
Lars
Hi guys,
i'm trying to build a rom but till now i just have boot loader screen
I have to read more carfuly how to build a rom but as soon as i guet it working i will post
Prophet Touch X
I will for shure release my X version and maybe I'll release some other rom after that.
I will also release the X version with rgu files so anyone can dump it and reconstruckt it. I might even release it as a kitchen so someone can continue making roms for my x-girlfriend (Prophet)
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I will for shure release my X version and maybe I'll release some other rom after that.
I will also release the X version with rgu files so anyone can dump it and reconstruckt it. I might even release it as a kitchen so someone can continue making roms for my x-girlfriend (Prophet)
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that's nice fo you.. I'll try to learn how to cook ROM too..
How about Kaiser.. is it really good?
gullum said:
I will for shure release my X version and maybe I'll release some other rom after that.
I will also release the X version with rgu files so anyone can dump it and reconstruckt it. I might even release it as a kitchen so someone can continue making roms for my x-girlfriend (Prophet)
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Great news gullum!
Looking forward to get my hands on the version with rgu files so that I can try my rom cooking skills. ;-)
Perhaps finally a Swedish WM6 Prophet rom will be possible???
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I will for shure release my X version and maybe I'll release some other rom after that.
I will also release the X version with rgu files so anyone can dump it and reconstruckt it. I might even release it as a kitchen so someone can continue making roms for my x-girlfriend (Prophet)
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this is really great news.
Thank you Gullum, you are a really good friend for all of us
gullum said:
I might even release it as a kitchen so someone can continue making roms for my x-girlfriend (Prophet)
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We all wish you a very long love story with your girlfriend
gullum said:
I will for shure release my X version and maybe I'll release some other rom after that.
I will also release the X version with rgu files so anyone can dump it and reconstruckt it. I might even release it as a kitchen so someone can continue making roms for my x-girlfriend (Prophet)
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thanks really waiting for kitchen although i will learn it later (how to cook but sure i would like to cook).
jullien said:
We all wish you a very long love story with your girlfriend
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Their Sex Life wasnt that great lol
if your r happy with prophet now..i think we should wait for devices with next version of windows mobile ( photon)..because its a huge update and current deviced can not run it..its deviced will be available by h2 of 2008
prophet is my 1st pda phone & i really love it. esp after updating to wm6 via gullum's and now hma4.
i was seriously thinking of getting a kaiser as well, but at almost $3000 local money & my prophet is working absolutely fine, i said no...
yes, there may not be a new rom for us, but as long as my prophet works ok, i will not give in & buy a kaiser....
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prophet is my 1st pda phone & i really love it. esp after updating to wm6 via gullum's and now hma4.
i was seriously thinking of getting a kaiser as well, but at almost $3000 local money & my prophet is working absolutely fine, i said no...
yes, there may not be a new rom for us, but as long as my prophet works ok, i will not give in & buy a kaiser....
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agree with you.. kaiser is to expensive for me..
gullum said:
I will for shure release my X version and maybe I'll release some other rom after that.
I will also release the X version with rgu files so anyone can dump it and reconstruckt it. I might even release it as a kitchen so someone can continue making roms for my x-girlfriend (Prophet)
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nobody forgets the x-girlfriends. We wait for you here.
Hi everybody,
I was looking around for some informations about getting wm7 for HTC HD2, but I found many results, some of them said that it will, some said not. So, do You know if there will be official update to WM7? If not - will be there any non-official ROMs? I've heard that someone already did it, but I don't know anything more about it.
Thanks
as far as i read there no wp7 for hd2 but its will ported in time by the community here
take a look in the windows phone 7 development forum. Da_G and a few others are actively working ok windows phone 7 with a couple of leak builds.
The other build you saw was never confirmed by the community.
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Hi everybody,
I was looking around for some informations about getting wm7 for HTC HD2, but I found many results, some of them said that it will, some said not. So, do You know if there will be official update to WM7?
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No official update to windows phone 7 is planned at this time.
If not - will be there any non-official ROMs?
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Maybe. It really depends on how compelling the unique features are in wp7 as to whether anyone will feel compelled to work on porting it to the HD2.
I've heard that someone already did it, but I don't know anything more about it.
Thanks
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Someone apparently faked a video at one time showing wp7 ported to an HD2. I think they used the remote desktop app to remote to a PC running some kind of wp7 emulator.
I don't have any links to any of this information. This is just stuff I read somewhere, at sometime but I would imagine you could find the sources if you did a search using the correct search criteria. You know, stuff like "WP7 HD2 faked" and stuff like that.
I 99% sure people will attempt to port window mobile 7 to the HD2.
How successful they'll be will be is uncertain.
That's a pity that HD2 won't get official update. I like this device, and I'm happy owner of it, but personally I think that WM is restriction for this mobile. Somewere it's ugly, and slows down terribly...
Well, WP7 rom for HD2 has been around xda forum for a few days now, and we all know who we should send a "thank you" to. However, I've been questioning that why Cotulla and DFT are still keeping silent about this launch then?
If you could remember that Cotulla was the first dev. announced the good new about Nandroid on HD2, and he was also the first dev. to post a NANDROID rom for us (here).
So do you know why he hasn't said anything about this very big achievement then?
I think it's because of (possible) legal issues with Microsoft... Don't quote me on that though.
I'm wondering the same
Legal issues ? maybe ..
One of the big reasons is because he is not ready to release it. The Devs are still making changes to the Magldr and will be releasing an updated version at a later point with more bugs ironed out.
As far as legal issues, its the same thing it was with WinMo 6.5...people cooked ROMS and there was no legal issue behind it.
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One of the big reasons is because he is not ready to release it. The Devs are still making changes to the Magldr and will be releasing an updated version at a later point with more bugs ironed out.
As far as legal issues, its the same thing it was with WinMo 6.5...people cooked ROMS and there was no legal issue behind it.
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but people cook wm 6.5 in phone that have wm 6.5 in the first place
hd2 is wm6.5 phone, not wp 7
there is no legal restriction for announcing this
they are waiting for the right time to give a fully working wp7
this i just a warming up release
Or they are waiting for this huge forum makeover to post they rom in proper WP7 section
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Or they are waiting for the this huge forum makeover to post they rom in proper WP7 section
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Yeah.you spot the light.
m2shakiba said:
there is no legal restriction for announcing this
they are waiting for the right time to give a fully working wp7
this i just a warming up release
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i hope you are right..
but i think the legal problem hurdle them to release here,,attorney from MS could be annoying..
it is possible that dft released wp7 in china and see what reaction of MS would be, and then step forword..
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One of the big reasons is because he is not ready to release it. The Devs are still making changes to the Magldr and will be releasing an updated version at a later point with more bugs ironed out.
As far as legal issues, its the same thing it was with WinMo 6.5...people cooked ROMS and there was no legal issue behind it.
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there is no legal restriction for announcing this
they are waiting for the right time to give a fully working wp7
this i just a warming up release
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Sorry but you guys are simply wrong.
It hasn't been directly released via XDA simply because xda is hosted on US servers, and XDA could be held liable if any posting or WP7 roms. M$ wants WP7 to be allot more locked down then the legacy version of OS.
It was released elsewhere because they are on Chinese servers.
I really do hope that we start getting dev going on on here and that custom roms are eventually released but from what ive been told its not likely atm. It will probably happen via 3rd parties willing to post like teh person who got permission to post the release here.
eg:- we buy car . we change tires , paint , tuned engine etc
we buy htc hd2 . we change boot loader , phone pouch , tuned os etc
we bourght than its ours .
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eg:- we buy car . we change tires , paint , tuned engine etc
we buy htc hd2 . we change boot loader , phone pouch , tuned os etc
we bourght than its ours .
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True. But you didnt buy the wp7 os. So micro$oft cant say anything to you about running andoid on your phone. But if you tried to run wp7 on the desire hd, they would be able to do something, because the os hasnt been liscensed to you to run on that phone. When someone purchases an hd7, they have permission to run wp7 on it, or anything else the may want without m$ stepping in. Its not like android which is open source, and free for all to meddle with.
sathara said:
eg:- we buy car . we change tires , paint , tuned engine etc
we buy htc hd2 . we change boot loader , phone pouch , tuned os etc
we bourght than its ours .
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Spot on! Exactly what i think!
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True. But you didnt buy the wp7 os. So micro$oft cant say anything to you about running andoid on your phone. But if you tried to run wp7 on the desire hd, they would be able to do something, because the os hasnt been liscensed to you to run on that phone. When someone purchases an hd7, they have permission to run wp7 on it, or anything else the may want without m$ stepping in. Its not like android which is open source, and free for all to meddle with.
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Don't use it!
It is your right to do whatever you want and not do a thing that you don't want to.
Why someone keeps poping these stupid threads.
There is a great conspiracy with the aliens and MS and Cotulla is hiding from them!
Guys dont get me wrong, I dont give a **** what M$ thinks and if I want it on my phone ill put it on my phone but..
Stop been naive about this, They own teh software and license it out via OEM, technically if they really want to do it they could sue anybody hosting the ROM or anybody supplying the rom, its as simple as that.
This is specifically why things have gone a bit quiet from XDA/DFT, well at least on here anyway.
You guys should just let it be and forget about it, we have our rom and thats all that matters.
All copyright/licensing restrictions are COMMERCIAL. All Commerce operates under Statute law. All statute law is not law at all but COLOR of law and only enforceable WITH YOUR CONSENT. Stop consenting.
Hey, you probably heard that WP7 has been ported on HD2.
Well, that's a great start. But I think we can try it out... Even it would be a lot buggy or slow or anything else... I think if we contact DFT (Dark Forces Team) they might help us out... I know it's near impossible (because of our ARMv6 CPU. == WP7 needs an ARMv7 CPU which HD2 has it.) But it's not impossible completely... Let's do something about it... What do you say devs?
I'm just waiting for the hackers team is to discuss about this. Because I am only new person in the world PHONE.
im will suporter to u all
Come on ,it will be great to run wp7 on topaz
Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a port for the Topaz, and I'd probly try it out... But I'm looking forward to the cracking of WP7 on WP7 phones so that I can upgrade to a new phone and not be stuck with that horrible start screen
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I appreciate that... But as I mentioned above, it's near impossible... Not completely. Your'e right... Topaz has ARMv6 processor... WP7 requires ARMv7. But i'm talking about experiencing it on Topaz... By the way, I agree with oldness of Topaz... I'm gonna buy a Desire HD
It's wishfull thinking and never going to happen. The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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And wouldn't that be great!!!!
That ain't true I find that the ui from wp7 is lite and simple. This can easily be ported to our devices with a little magic. But The part of windows live games or xbox live is the part that our devices cant handle. Our devices aren't old they where made cheap by htc and att to cover some sectors of the market. But our devices could have been easily been made with the same stuff as hd2, as few months passed since each launched.
The ui is simpler than ours and faster I think it could be done......just that I need to finish studying by then to make this. And I don't think of waiting is another great idea. As we are shadowed by what could have been if we had a twin processor to hd2's. But, we bought this and I find it great!
And please respect each other!!!!!
I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
wp7 requires ARMv7 instruction set on cpu. but topaz is just ARMv6 i think. that's why I think it's not possible
Moreover, why would you want WP7? The only thing it has going for it is that it runs smoothly and doesn't crash, which it would NOT do if someone did manage to port it. Better off building skins over 6.5.x; that way you could at least retain functionality...
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
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I am waiting, good luck man
Black.Heart said:
I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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I agree. I'm moving to iPhone 4 or Sensation or EVO 3D...
Update!!!!
RUU_Schubert_HTC_Europe_1.69.401.01_Radio_5.54.09.21_22.33b.50.10_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE WITH NoDo
RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_1.30.401.01_5.54.09.21_22.33b.50_RELEASE WITH NoDo
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New Build on XDA original thread. perhaps some chefs can go hands on ^^
Confirmation leaked from HTC 7 PRO
source of the leak
this relates to DEVELOPMENT before anybody can flame me
cheers
EDIT: seems like a reloc tool is used to get it booted. DFT will release it but it isn't clear when it will be.
Cool, hopefully DFT will release a port soon so we can test it out
Nice to hear it's leaked already, time for devs to do there work.
CrAzYiaN said:
Nice to hear it's leaked already, time for devs to do there work.
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They can't as long as cotulla/dft doesn't release the reloc tool...
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They can't as long as cotulla/dft doesn't release the reloc tool...
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my mistake, meant time for the DFT to crack it up and make a new rom
Sounds interesting.
i thing new update is coming soon..........
Does someone has any update about the developpement?
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Does someone has any update about the developpement?
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we are still waiting for this reloc tool afaik...
Great news, excellent effort reading Chinese
tnx mate
jianototi said:
Great news, excellent effort reading Chinese
tnx mate
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Chrome translates it and the op of the other thread is working on his own reloc tool as he don't wanna wait for cotulla. Cotulla has some lose view on etas
I am trying to work on reloc, but I need someone who knows a bit about it, as there are some questions that can't be answered from US patents or MSDN or anything probably.
The questions is, if I have to just adjust the imageinfo.bin or I have to go through .reloc section and reloc by the content of this section all the other sections (just more trouble in the way, but it wouldn't take that much time still) too.
Waiting for this, to start using WP7s like is supose to be, with copy/past feature.... give me some juice
let's expecting
Is multitasking suppose to be in the Nodo update? Or is that for the following update. When I was reading about it, it sounded like multitasking would be coming soon.
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Is multitasking suppose to be in the Nodo update? Or is that for the following update. When I was reading about it, it sounded like multitasking would be coming soon.
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i think it is in the update after NoDo. That big one of which i forgot the name sth strange with m...
EDIT: mango ^^
Is there a switch to turn off backup before update on the HD2? Just an idea...
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Is there a switch to turn off backup before update on the HD2? Just an idea...
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I never would try to update the regular way as some official wp7 samsung phones were bricked.
I don't think there is a switch and I would wait until the devs make a rom.
Any news concerning the port for HD2 ?
Thought MS wanted to officially release NoDo yesterday?
Maxey said:
Any news concerning the port for HD2 ?
Thought MS wanted to officially release NoDo yesterday?
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It didn't announce it, they were rumours