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Hi everyone,
I'm a long time viewer, first time poster. I plan on buying the Cingular 3125 this weekend (the refurbished model for $29.99), however I'd like to consult the experts (that would be anyone other than myself) prior to my purchase.
I feel like it's a good fit for me, but my knowledge of PPC's and smartphones is limited. Is there any reason I shouldn't buy this phone? I was originally planning on the 8525 when it was down at $99.99 for a couple days, however that's no longer an option. That, and I think I'd prefer a flip phone and a dedicated keypad.
There were a couple things I didn't truly find in any reviews.
First off, how rugged is the phone?
Is the ringer loud enough/is vibration sufficient? My current phone is barely audible in slightly loud places, and I sometimes hear it vibrate before I feel it.
Upon opening for a phone call, does it pick up right away? I can't stand phones that lag through this process.
If there is a phone out there that is (unlikely) $100 or so that would suit me better , please let me know.
The only things I truly look for in a phone are call quality, customization (ringtones, themes, etc...), decent battery life, Wi-fi is a huge plus, but not mandatory. I don't use any extraneous services.
Any input or advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
for 29.99 i would take my chances. I just bought a brand new one for 199 off ebay and it had problems. so i sent it back and they promptly replaced it with a new one. worse part is now i have to pay again to simunlock it but oh well atleast the phone functions right. it does have a weak speaker for the ring it is not very loud and it answers right away for me.
Thanks for the input.
Oh and one more thing. Is there a fast one/two button way to activate a silent and/or vibrate mode?
Offspring said:
Thanks for the input.
Oh and one more thing. Is there a fast one/two button way to activate a silent and/or vibrate mode?
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yep... more or less. clicking on the operator id opens the comm manager, #5 enables/disables the ringer (puts it into "meeting mode")...
mostly thats unnecessary. if you have an appointment, set your profile to "automatic" and set the appointment (in your calendar) so that your status is busy.
automatic sets you to "meeting" mode every time your calendar status is "busy"
beyond that... 29.99? you crazy? is that a contract? better have a backup phone then. contracts are never good... if you brick your phone on a 3 yr contract because you were modding it (or whatever)... you still have a 3 yr contract. with or without the phone.
look into it. weigh your options. don't go headlong into something that will financially rape you.
Mystik said:
yep... more or less. clicking on the operator id opens the comm manager, #5 enables/disables the ringer (puts it into "meeting mode")...
mostly thats unnecessary. if you have an appointment, set your profile to "automatic" and set the appointment (in your calendar) so that your status is busy.
automatic sets you to "meeting" mode every time your calendar status is "busy"
beyond that... 29.99? you crazy? is that a contract? better have a backup phone then. contracts are never good... if you brick your phone on a 3 yr contract because you were modding it (or whatever)... you still have a 3 yr contract. with or without the phone.
look into it. weigh your options. don't go headlong into something that will financially rape you.
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I still have my phone right now. I could easily keep it as a back up. I've never heard bad reports of refurb phones from Cingular/AT&T. It's $29.99 due to the 2 year extension contract on top of it being a refurbished model. That's how I've gotten my phones in the past.
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I forgot to mention that I most likely wouldn't be hacking/modding it, unless there is something that really makes a big difference.
well then. it's a good phone. i have the 3100. i intended on buying the 3125, but somehow missed that it wasn't the 3125 in the auction (i bought mine on ebay)..
my real challenges were to rid myself of the cingular store (something which you might want to keep), re-do settings for MMS (as i'm not on cingular's network), and beyond that, my only beef is the BT Restrictions on the phone...
the only allowed incoming BT connection is for wireless modem.
i'd like to fix it... but meh. if you don't do much with BT, then you're okay. A2DP headsets seem to work though... but some registry mods are needed to do full stereo, and high quality A2DP... nothing serious, just some value modding.
if you're okay with the contract, go for it. nearly no mods are needed for this phone to kick some serious butt. i've honestly never had a phone that gave me as much detailed information about stuff as this one... it seems to satisfy my need for unnecessary information. haha.
I say DONT buy... FLip phones suck.
Thanks for the advice. I'll probably purchase it tomorrow if not sooner. I don't use any bluetooth at the moment, and can't see myself using it in the next 2 years.
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Is that the only reason Madcap? In that case, I'll stick with the phone.
could also check out a sda which adds wifi and infared in a candy bar package. I own that phone too and really they all the same just different form factors.
nkognegr0 said:
could also check out a sda which adds wifi and infared in a candy bar package. I own that phone too and really they all the same just different form factors.
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Too bad the SDA isn't made for Cingular/AT&T. It looks similar to the 2125, however that doesn't have wifi either.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
Alright, I have one more question.
I read somewhere that the newest Cingular ROM doesn't allow you to install 3rd party apps. I also read that there's a way to unlock it. Could someone lead me in the right direction?
Thanks!
yes, there is a way to make application unlock via registry editing and SDA Application Unlock utility
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yes, there is a way to make application unlock via registry editing and SDA Application Unlock utility
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Would I just have to follow the first two steps according to this post?
So from what I understand, installing the latest 3125 ROM disallows any use of 3rd party software apps without doing this?
Offspring said:
Would I just have to follow the first two steps according to this post?
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Yes, your device will be fully unlocked, and you will be able to flash any startrek cingular/qtek/imate/dopod roms
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So from what I understand, installing the latest 3125 ROM disallows any use of 3rd party software apps without doing this?
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No, some apps will work
And this lock is in any official rom
Alright, thanks for the tips. I understand what Application Unlock does, and I understand SIM unlock, but what exactly does CID Unlock do? Is that what allows custom ROM's to be installed?
CID unlock is allows you to flash with any vendor's rom (any of qtek 8500, cingular 3125, dopod s300 and i-mate Smartflip roms)
ha! Yes offspring, thats the only reason.. lol
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CID unlock is allows you to flash with any vendor's rom (any of qtek 8500, cingular 3125, dopod s300 and i-mate Smartflip roms)
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Thanks for all of the help. It's greatly appreciated. I doubt I'll need anything other than Application Unlock, but at least I know for future reference.
Hopefully I'll get around to purchasing tonight.
No further questions at this point in time. Thanks to everyone who contributed their thoughts/opinions/ideas.
1. Application unlock your phone using regeditstg and do the following :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\0000 1001 = 2 -->Change the value data from 2 to 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\0000 1005 = 16 --> Change the value data from 16 to 40
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\0000 1017 = 128 --> Change the value data from 128 to 144
Reboot the phone
2. Run SDA_ApplicationUnlock tool. Reboot the phone after it finishes.
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2Offspring
Application unlock is only first 2 points of this post.
Madcap180 said:
ha! Yes offspring, thats the only reason.. lol
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On our devices - yes...
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2Offspring
Application unlock is only first 2 points of this post.
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Yeah, I noticed that. Thanks for looking out for me.
Oh, and I may as well ask out of curiosity: What is superCID? I couldn't find a 'definition' per say. Just a place saying it allows the installation of ROM's.
Hi Guys,
i am new to flashing Ameo/Advantage/Athena, but am an experianced hardware "tweaker" with Pc's so am not too afraid to mess about a little, having bricked a few GFX cards in my past not too mention a few stern looks for the mrs when doing so
I need some help, i have just got an Ameo a standard T-mob one, brought 2nd hand, was formatted to factory standard when i got it
Want a hand i have heard from a few in the know that black touch is the way to go?
Is there a simple process to follow, i have looked at the threads above but they are over 50 pages long!?
perhaps just a simple 1.2.3.4... something to point me in the right direction?
Any help i am grateful for, Many thanks in advance
Pete
Step 1 Download Olipro Unlocker
Step 2 Run all 3 steps to unlock your phone comnpletely
Step3 Download APTouch Dual
Step 4 Run
Step 5 Enjoy!
Good instructions
I did mine last week with no problems. The only thing I would add is;
1. Make sure all your devices Ameo and laptop have a full charge before starting. Loosing power half way is a good way to get a brick.
2. Read, reread and print out the steps so that you can tick them off as you go along.
3. Keep wife, dog, kids etc. out of the way. You do not want to be distracted.
Good luck and enjoy your vastly improved device.
Thanks alot
i just have one further query, what is this radio 1.5 i have spotted being mentioned, i assume its not like fm radio and is actually reffering the the comms unit in the device, for gps or calls?
is this something i should consider or be thinking about?
Many Thanks
Pete
Paultnl said:
I did mine last week with no problems. The only thing I would add is;
1. Make sure all your devices Ameo and laptop have a full charge before starting. Loosing power half way is a good way to get a brick.
2. Read, reread and print out the steps so that you can tick them off as you go along.
3. Keep wife, dog, kids etc. out of the way. You do not want to be distracted.
Good luck and enjoy your vastly improved device.
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Did mine with no probs too. It is worth adding to the list:
- take out any memory cards
- stop any other programs running after boot - ie firewall/virus checker
It really is improved. The radio mentioned is the internal one. Flash the earlier version of the ROM which includes Radio v1.5, then follow with the later version which doesn't include it
Take a deep breath .....
Hi
Where does one get the APTouch Dual rom ???
mw22 said:
Hi
Where does one get the APTouch Dual rom ???
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3 threads above this one!
spacecat said:
3 threads above this one!
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lol, rotfl
dieter
Hello all!
Looking for some advice from Android experts on potentially utilizing Android for a super simple but small mobile device.
Particularly looking for advice and/or a direction on which base will probably be best 2.X, 3.X, 4.X as well as what's even possible.
Think of a device the size as an iPod Nano Touch with all the bells and whistles of a smart phone (no screen). Trying to aim for a standby time of 180 hours.
Help!
AK-shay said:
wow 180 hours??
now thats definitely impossible..
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~180 hours standby! this potential device won't see much use, but will still have all the bells and whistles to be utilized by apps/services later down the road.
Goodluck with that
flyrocket said:
Goodluck with that
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it's going to happen, just a matter of tweaking and hardware specs.
the device will be on the market in under 12 months. want to embrace the culture here at xda to help it along its way =)
Not ready yet, may be in the future (5 years) for smartphone.
Good
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wow 180 hours??
now thats definitely impossible..
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Its very good!
from the research i've gathered, the technology is already there (hardware-wise) - it's all about software/OS and i'm interested in trying Android (if possible) instead of a Real Time OS like ThreadX - due to sheer amount of support
@androidpros would love for some advice!
How minimal are you talking? If you just want great battery life and some texting, why not just get a dumb phone?
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How minimal are you talking? If you just want great battery life and some texting, why not just get a dumb phone?
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the target customer can't use a phone. (even a dumb one)
and dont even think about a smartphone w/ a screen. xD
its tough to see the market potential if you aren't in the market, but think of your grandparents or maybe even parents. as young tech savvy ppl, its easy to say "just make an app for it" but for them, you have to put yourself in their shoes.
imagine putting oven mitts, ear plugs, and have allergies (eyes) at all times and try to work a dumb phone, let a lone a smartphone.
hence - I reiterate: looking to use android but want to get a feel from experts to see if it's possible to strip it down as bare as possible but still be able to be activated to use all of the components in a smartphone (gps, accelerometer, camera, etc...) at a moments notice.
the device would be in standby pretty much at all times, but must either always be somewhat connected to the mobile network (2G, 3G) or connect periodically to the network. all other components would be on demand so not really worried about their battery consumption.
its a very interesting project and if it's possible and we get to product launch. we'll be giving away devices to xda members to hack away at. =D
I think it is impossible! unless u don't use anything except processor
that's the intent. device should last as long as possible in a standby/hibernation state where the processor is in a super low power state(just enough to stay connected to the mobile network)
there are plenty of dumb phones out there that had 300 hours of standby (untouched phone but still connected to network) now of course they had relatively big batteries, but these phones were manufactured years ago. i'd hope by today, we can put together a combination of hardware and software innovation to achieve this goal.
does it need to stay connected to mobile network, or could it just powerup the radio on event?
I am thinking something along the lines of a 3g based safety device, eg device wakes up and calls in to indicate an emergency condition.
something like this would not need to power more than the CPU and some sensors, till the "event" then it could powerup additional hardware.
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does it need to stay connected to mobile network, or could it just powerup the radio on event?
I am thinking something along the lines of a 3g based safety device, eg device wakes up and calls in to indicate an emergency condition.
something like this would not need to power more than the CPU and some sensors, till the "event" then it could powerup additional hardware.
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on the right track. you hit it on the nail in regards to the usecase of the device, however there is a need to be able to ping a device at any time and get a timely status update (including location info) which makes things a little more difficult.
we see two potential routes
1. keep the radio always on and connected (of course battery drain but how bad is it really? - examples being the dumb phones in the past with 300h of standby but still being connected to the networks)
2. have the radios power up every so often to check to see if there is a command awaiting it, if so, execute, if not, power back down.
going route 2 would mean you can't get an on demand ping ability, but worst case, longest wait time = one power down-up cycle of the radio (let's use an example of 5 minutes)
of course, we'd like to go with route 1, but typically in an emergency, its the user of the device that initiates whereas a ping is more for information (parent looking for child or device - yes it might be an emergency, but probably not life-threatening)
You might want to have a look at SONY's $150 android watch.
try "One Power Guard" download from onexuan.com,It can help you extend battery life .
Discuss from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889740
Hi
I dropped my galaxy tab s and wondered if their was any ways I could check if any internal parts were damaged ?
Chips etc
asustf700t said:
Hi
I dropped my galaxy tab s and wondered if their was any ways I could check if any internal parts were damaged ?
Chips etc
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Does it function normally? If so, it's probably fine.
Evolution_Tech said:
Does it function normally? If so, it's probably fine.
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It seems to be heating up pretty quickly.
But I've just got it so don't know if this is normal..?
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It seems to be heating up pretty quickly.
But I've just got it so don't know if this is normal..?
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Several things can cause a rise in temperature. Multiple apps running, using browser with multiple tabs open or high data usage. Also games can cause heating. It's probably normal but keep an eye on it for a bit.
Evolution_Tech said:
Several things can cause a rise in temperature. Multiple apps running, using browser with multiple tabs open or high data usage. Also games can cause heating. It's probably normal but keep an eye on it for a bit.
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Okay sure will do thanks.
Since I have yur attention if you get a minute PLEASE could you take a look at this and tell me if you know a solution it's driving me crazy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/ohhh-goddddddd-swirls-everywhere-t3167432
asustf700t said:
Okay sure will do thanks.
Since I have yur attention if you get a minute PLEASE could you take a look at this and tell me if you know a solution it's driving me crazy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/ohhh-goddddddd-swirls-everywhere-t3167432
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Have you tried clearing your browser cache and lastly browser data?
Yes absolutely.
It is on all my devices whether I'm in a browser or not, my note 4 my tab s.... it's like these swirls embedded in the screen
I got a response from Samsung saying
"In regard to your recent query, I can confirm that what you are seeing is part of the background display and is embedded into the device and the software.
Please accept my apologies for any disappointment caused.
If you have any further questions or require additional assistance please contact us on 0330 726 7864 (UK) or 0818 717 100 (EIRE).
Alternatively you can visit our Support website where you will find FAQs, How-To-Videos and other useful information for Samsung products.
Kind regards,
Daniel
Customer Service Representative"
Damn it is their anyway I can reduce it
Hi everyone!
I am thinking about making an app that would increase screen on time at lower cost to battery life.
It would do this simply by allowing a user to manually set how long your screen stays in super dim mode.
Whenever your display is about to switch off it dims dramatically for a short time, giving you a chance to reset the dim timer. The app would let you adjust how long this takes.
This is especially useful for tablets, which are a pick-ip put-down device where you often need to switch the screen back on after getting distracted with something, so it would, for example, allow you to set an overall time of 3 minutes, with a period of super-dimness of 1 minute. This will save significant amounts of battery.
Before i commit to it, id like to know if this is something people would be interested in. Please let me know below!
vshapke said:
Hi everyone!
I am thinking about making an app that would increase screen on time at lower cost to battery life.
It would do this simply by allowing a user to manually set how long your screen stays in super dim mode.
Whenever your display is about to switch off it dims dramatically for a short time, giving you a chance to reset the dim timer. The app would let you adjust how long this takes.
This is especially useful for tablets, which are a pick-ip put-down device where you often need to switch the screen back on after getting distracted with something, so it would, for example, allow you to set an overall time of 3 minutes, with a period of super-dimness of 1 minute. This will save significant amounts of battery.
Before i commit to it, id like to know if this is something people would be interested in. Please let me know below!
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good thinking <> go for it!
once you get famous/rich ---- don't forget i pressed the first thanks
I would use this app as my phone does not last forever. Again, if you get famous don't forget I was the second guy who gave a huge thanks
crullick said:
good thinking <> go for it!
once you get famous/rich ---- don't forget i pressed the first thanks
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Thanks for your thoughts!
I hope many more people post here so i know i can start without worrying that im wasting my time
PS... i wonder what kind of person would rate a thread like this 1* - all im doing is asking whether people are interested in this functionality. And im willing to make the app in question. Crazy...
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I would use this app as my phone does not last forever. Again, if you get famous don't forget I was the second guy who gave a huge thanks
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Thanks a lot for your thoughts as well. If it takes off ill ask mods to move threads and you two will defo be first forever
I hope that you will be susccesfull
Sounds awesome!!
Any progress with the app
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Any progress with the app
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Ill need more people to voice their support before i start...
Sounds good, so I think it already exists.