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I don't know who's going to read this and/or if there will be any comments to it. I just want to take this horrible frustration and downheartedness out of my chest. I hope this will be of some help for anybody out there trying the same.
Today, I've hit what I hope will be the lowest most bitter point for me as an Android aficionado. Ever since the G1 was announced and came out, I jumped on the wagon and pre-ordered from Tmo (I was a customer at that time). As soon as I had it in my hands, I began learning about its customization, user experience, etc. I came here and learned how to root it (although I registered a bit later). I've owned four G1s, two G2s, an HTC Sensation and two Tbolts. All of them motivated me to dare tweaking and customizing more and more. Always with more or less satisfying results at the end, after overcoming the always present unexpected troubles. This time, however... I feel like I've got a pretty ugly dose of failure.
<s>I'll try to make it short.</s> My in-laws came from China. They had very old phones and wanted to get iPhones. However, the screen ended up seeming pretty small for them compared to my Tbolt. They asked me if I could help them get a good phone. I came up with a couple of choices. The HTC One X and the Samsung Galaxy S2. After thinking about it, I went for the S2. Now, it was a matter of picking the right (GSM) one. Either the ATT or Tmo version. I did more research and picked the ATT (I777) version, since "that's closer" to the international version.
I purchased two of them, still sealed, from Craigslist. I just loved them! Immediately, I purchased the unlocking codes for both. I got home and inserted a Tmo SIM to test them. I couldn't wait to hand them over to them. Then, things started to go just wrong in every way...
I was shocked to see the S2 had no Chinese option in language. The only Asian language available was Korean. At some point later, I realized that the Chinese options in my other phones were probably due to HTC being a Taiwanese company. I kept searching for an answer and ended up trying a couple of apps from the market like Morelocale2, etc. But they only translated about %30 of the whole. Failure.
I kept reading and learned I could flash a ROM with the language included. After more and more reading and rooting it, I had two choices. I could flash the Hong Kong or Singapore version of the phone. Those two come with the language already installed. Even though I don't know Chinese, I managed to get some help from a dev acquaintance and found the HK (I9100) version that even had the ICS version. I followed the tut and flashed it using Odin. When it booted it looked all good. Looking at that Chinese all over the place even made me smile. I sighed and said "I'm done"... little did I know my failure was far from avoided.
First of all, I learned that only two of the four buttons work due to the kernel. Only Back and menu work. I tried to see the good side. It'd be easier for them to get used to using only two buttons. I started installing more goodies, like Chinese input (by strokes, not by keyboard), even a wonderful app I found called Buttonsavior to replace the physical buttons. I was "done" and handed over the phone; only one of them. I wanted to be sure of the procedure to go, before doing the other. Then, I realized something horrific...
As they were trying the phone, poking menus here and there to become familiar with the UI; suddenly, while testing making a phone call, I heard that phrase: "It has no sound!" I wanted to kick myself out of my own disbelief... I thought "OMG! It was so hard hard to get a hold of that ROM. Now what?" I sadly understood I'd have to restore and go back to trying to find a solution to the partially translated gingerbread version. Then, I restored and went cold when I realized what had happened.
During the restoring, I was quite glad I had backed up in case of a disaster. When I booted up and just out of curiosity of how good the sound of the call was supposed to sound, I made a call. Guess what? IT DIDN'T WORK EITHER! This is when I started panicking! I thought "OK, I restored, now what?" I quickly did a wipe, factory reset, even unrooting back to the stock ROM. Did it work? No!! No audio call! "OMG!! The phone I just bought on Craigslist it's defective!"
I didn't give up and let that make me feel down (completely). I said "OK, after all this struggle and time, at least I'm going to make the other one work." I took the other phone and made a call to finally hear the quality of the audio call. It was very good to say the least. It was very nice and clear. At this point I started to feel half of an epic failure. In less than 5 mins the phone was rooted and being updated to the HK ICS ROM. I went as quickly as I could through the initial setup. I hit the home screen and the first thing I touched was the phone call icon, dialed and waited to see what the phone was supposed to be like. Then, the half failure, became full failure. I don't remember feeling that down for something before. I threw in the towel...
The audio didn't work... that's when I realized I had just messed up two brand new S2s I bought out of a stranger's hands. I've thought about it, and I got the feeling something can be done, but at this point I'm not sure what. I feel like my brain has dried up. I struggled with this for about a week, having a massive headache at least three times. But the story didn't end there...
In a feeling of total defeat, I did the last thing I could think of... I called tech support and tell them about the lack of sound. After lot of talking and pushing for some solution (they wanted me to take it back to the 'store'), they said the warranty was good for another eleven months. They've got my info and emailed me a prepaid UPS label. You think think it's a happy ending? No. You want to know why? I can't even reset the binary counter. I even got a jig connector to do the job, but of course 'for some strange reason', it won't do it. If this isn't an example of a perfect failure, then what is it? Total lost: $900.
I'm not as good as most guys here, but I like to read and use common sense as much as I can. This time I thought to my self "I'm a dumbass, what else can I say?" Aren't I?
Thanks for reading,
Edit: Yes, I did flash a stock ROM.
Hi buddy,
I just read your story.. U will both phone work again, I am pretty sure! Try to get some experienced help! Fully restoring by flashing a stocks rom should be the help... Make sure I do it correct!
Good luck!!!
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*you do it right..
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I can tell you right off the bat that the reason the Home and Search buttons didn't work on your i777 (AT&T S2) is because you flashed an i9100 ROM. The i9100 has a physical home button and no search button. i9100 ROMs ARE compatible with the i777 since other than that they are identical phones, but you need to fix the key mappings. As for the audio, I'm not sure.
I don't know if I forgot to mention it, but I did flash a stock ROM.
I may not have the greatest knowledge of these things but are you sure it's not a radio issue? Have you tried flashing a different radio (one that's compatible with the ROM and region you want to install)? I know I mate who had an issue with calls after flashing a new ROM to his new S2 and the problem turned out to be the radio. Once he flashed a new one (it may have been the factory one he flashed back on to it) it all worked.
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Man that's a crazy story. Not sure if I over read it or not cuz I'm baked or not but maybe they were tinkered with before you got them? Like did audio work originally? I know I'm sure glad I found the sbf files for my old OG, since they've saved me numerous times being able to flash to out of the box status. Sounds like you might've jumped into it too quickly without ironing out all the details. Shoot I know it took me like 2 weeks thinking about just rooting my phone to finally do it a couple years ago.
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Yes, that was my first thought after flashing that ICS regional ROM: the radio. And that was the reason why I decided to flash the unrooted stock ROM. But like I said, nothing! I'm sure there was nothing wrong with the phones. The second was working fine before I did it. I actually tested it over and over, kind of like to make me feel better that at least that one of them was going to work.
Hi, are you getting no sound at all or just no sound in call.
I would suggest flashing back using Odin. I've had some issue's when flashing using Odin for customers. Some have had non EU devices and wanted EU firmware flashed. After flashing i also experienced sound issues.
I found that flashing back to the earliest possible stock Samsung Rom helped in my case.
hope this help you out bro
gazlufc said:
Hi, are you getting no sound at all or just no sound in call.
I would suggest flashing back using Odin. I've had some issue's when flashing using Odin for customers. Some have had non EU devices and wanted EU firmware flashed. After flashing i also experienced sound issues.
I found that flashing back to the earliest possible stock Samsung Rom helped in my case.
hope this help you out bro
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Like I said. The reason why I thought it was a radio issue (and flashed a stock ROM via Odin) was because they do have sound, but no during a call.
gazlufc said:
Hi, are you getting no sound at all or just no sound in call.
I would suggest flashing back using Odin. I've had some issue's when flashing using Odin for customers. Some have had non EU devices and wanted EU firmware flashed. After flashing i also experienced sound issues.
I found that flashing back to the earliest possible stock Samsung Rom helped in my case.
hope this help you out bro
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I'd still suggest trying to flash a radio separately. When it happened to my mate he still had sound issues after flashing back to a stock ROM and it was only fixed by flashing a separate radio zip.
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GraphicGoose said:
I'd still suggest trying to flash a radio separately. When it happened to my mate he still had sound issues after flashing back to a stock ROM and it was only fixed by flashing a separate radio zip.
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I think trying that is the only thing that separates me from having spent $900 in, virtually, two paper weights. I got this strange feeling it might be a fate prank. If so, I'll probably take a break from this kind of endeavors.
The only time I've done a radio update was when updating my G1 to 1.6. The radio file was hard to find though...
The_Forastero said:
I think trying that is the only thing that separates me from having spent $900 in, virtually, two paper weights. I got this strange feeling it might be a fate prank. If so, I'll probably take a break from this kind of endeavors.
The only time I've done a radio update was when updating my G1 to 1.6. The radio file was hard to find though...
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This could be a start:
http://www.veyka.co.uk/radios/
http://www.mofirouz.com/wordpress/2011/11/samsung-galaxy-s2-radios/
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GraphicGoose said:
This could be a start:
http://www.veyka.co.uk/radios/
http://www.mofirouz.com/wordpress/2011/11/samsung-galaxy-s2-radios/
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Thank you very much mate! Really, I really appreciate it. The clock is ticking back. They're leaving tomorrow. I'll get into it and report back.
Thanks again,
While trying to find the right radio, it just hit me. Should I use a chinese (ZS, ZC) version? I feel like a total n00b asking this, but... does the baseband has to do with roaming or something like that?
Thanks,
The_Forastero said:
While trying to find the right radio, it just hit me. Should I use a chinese (ZS, ZC) version? I feel like a total n00b asking this, but... does the baseband has to do with roaming or something like that?
Thanks,
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That one I'm not overly sure about sorry mate. Someone else might be able to chime in? But hey, considering they don't work in their current state it can't hurt to give it a try?
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The modem firmware has to match the hardware. You need to the one that came with the phone. The frequencies are physically programmed into the radio and flashing a radio with a different frequency will make it not work until you flash the correct one.
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Product F(RED) said:
The modem firmware has to match the hardware. You need to the one that came with the phone. The frequencies are physically programmed into the radio and flashing a radio with a different frequency will make it not work until you flash the correct one.
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Does that mean, that there are worldwide phones with different hardware chips? Isn't there any chance to reconfigure these chips?
KanocX said:
Does that mean, that there are worldwide phones with different hardware chips? Isn't there any chance to reconfigure these chips?
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The phones are identical in terms of hardware specs (i9100s I mean) but each region may have one that picks up different frequencies. No you can't reconfigure it unless the radio supports it which is rare and not the case for the S2. Like I said flash the radio that came with the phone. You most likely flashed a ROM for an S2 that was a different region and came with a different radio. The software for the radio is trying to tell the radio to tune to a frequency it doesn't support. Get it?
Hopefully you made a nandroid backup before you did anything and can restore it. Also you can always play around with it in English and then change the language to Chinese when you are done if you are able to find a rom that has the language support.
Hey guys, first post, first real major issue I've encountered well rooting a phablet.
I have a ATT galaxy note, yesterday I rooted it and installed the Saurom ROM, everything was a breeze, I decided to try out ICS, I accidentally installed Criskelo onto the device before finding out it wasn't okay for the ATT note.
It hung on installing the rom itself and so I removed the battery imagining I could just revert to Saurom til I found a new ICS rom. But after I interuppted the ROM from installing, I get NO POWER! No download mode, nothing whatsoever on the screen =[ I'm ultra sad, best solution I find for the note is possibly a USB jig but I don't know if it will bring me back from this...
ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED! I'm sitting here with a bricked note and a broken heart.
Don't be heartbroken just yet. This just happened to a friend of mine with his Note. I'm sending him your way. He's working today so I doubt he can get to you right away but I'm pretty sure he has the answer you need.
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Have you tried accessing the phone with odin to see if it shows up there?
did you install CWM prior to flashing? try the three button combo to boot into recovery
did you backup prior to flashing ICS?
erikistehsex said:
Hey guys, first post, first real major issue I've encountered well rooting a phablet.
I have a ATT galaxy note, yesterday I rooted it and installed the Saurom ROM, everything was a breeze, I decided to try out ICS, I accidentally installed Criskelo onto the device before finding out it wasn't okay for the ATT note.
It hung on installing the rom itself and so I removed the battery imagining I could just revert to Saurom til I found a new ICS rom. But after I interuppted the ROM from installing, I get NO POWER! No download mode, nothing whatsoever on the screen =[ I'm ultra sad, best solution I find for the note is possibly a USB jig but I don't know if it will bring me back from this...
ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED! I'm sitting here with a bricked note and a broken heart.
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Some ROMs can damage the device's onboard flash. Surprisingly the Note is one of the few devices that you can actually physically break by flashing the wrong ROM.
erikistehsex said:
Hey guys, first post, first real major issue I've encountered well rooting a phablet.
I have a ATT galaxy note, yesterday I rooted it and installed the Saurom ROM, everything was a breeze, I decided to try out ICS, I accidentally installed Criskelo onto the device before finding out it wasn't okay for the ATT note.
It hung on installing the rom itself and so I removed the battery imagining I could just revert to Saurom til I found a new ICS rom. But after I interuppted the ROM from installing, I get NO POWER! No download mode, nothing whatsoever on the screen =[ I'm ultra sad, best solution I find for the note is possibly a USB jig but I don't know if it will bring me back from this...
ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED! I'm sitting here with a bricked note and a broken heart.
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You may need to contact mobile tech videos and get jtag unbricking service.
A bad flash happened to me in my first week of owning the phone so I was under the 30 day return policy with AT&T. I told them I was updating apps in the market, it got super hot, shut off, and would not power up.
They couldn't get it to turn on either, for obvious reasons, and they exchanged it no further questions asked. Hopefully your still in the return period.
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I done the same thing..odin should pick it up kust flash att recovery
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I'm sorry to say you probably have a hard brick on your hands. There's more info in this thread. I did the same thing myself. studacris's answer is the only option, you'll need to send it to someone who can do a JTAG repair on it, or you need to hope it's under warranty and send it back to AT&T and tell them that it just plain broke.
All notes are under warranty from Samsung still. They are for a year of purchase date. note has not been out a year.
Normally when I've had a a phone brick on me or a friends phone when out of the 30 day period, I would call 611 and have them send me a phone and when I received the new one I would mail the bricked one. It wasn't a big issue since the phones have manufacture warranties. Now they opened a device support center near buy and you can go and get a new one that same day.
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question for the OP's question, Samsung has that flash counter on the phone, I'm assuming with a bad flash like this it doesn't go up. But does it? And it if does, would Samsung be able to tell what happened? I know Samsung has a hard stance on flashers. To OP, I did the same thing, and I resorted to getting the JTAG thing done, the few places I've came across won't charge unless they can fix it. And they only charge like $50.
I tried jtag. Waste of money. They could not save my phone, plus they charged me $30 for looking at it.
Not to mention I lost out on my shipping.
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The last resort is to try a Jig to force download mode. If that fails, you are done. You can look on your PC in the Device Manager. In there it will show you an "state" when you connect the device trying to get into Download Mode. Google that state. I am guessing you are getting the bad one which at this time is a device exchange.
the bottom 2 mm of my sprint evo 3d is not working right. by that, i mean that its sorta uncalibrated. my phone is rooted and it was normal until yesterday. now, if i put my finger on the bottom to mms of the screen then it claims it to be higher that it is.
for example, the dev options gives me a screen pointer overlay option and if i have my phone on the very bottom possible it says its at 888.5 on the Y. my finger trace is followed but higher.
thats a really bad explanation so ill try using a picture from paint
http://imgur.com/lAR48
any questions (i know i did i bad job of explaining it, but its hard to explain.. for me atleast) just ask..
thanks,
colin
That is the most funny drawing I've ever seen. LOL!!!! However, must give you some points for the try. lol *gives you a Thanks point for making me laugh*
haha thanks
my photoshop trial ended a month ago so im making due on paint for this
but i think im just gunna take it in to sprint... i already flashed an ruu and unrooted and got s-on... on the bright-side hopefully ill get a new phone!
same thing happened to my phone. took it to a sprint repair store they told me to come bak in 2 hrs i did and they replaced my phone with a refurb. unfortunatly my refurb is also borked and will restart whenever i connect to wifi. anyways best of luck to u =)
uh oh. i hope i dont get one of those... i never turn wifi off! :O
i plan on re-rooting or rooting whatever phone i get, so hope its not messed up and is in good condition...
you think theyll give me a refurbed white one if i ask?
They originally told me that they didn't have any refurbs at the store and would have to order one but theymagically found one...
I called sprint and complained and they helped me out with a loop hole to get a new phone a year ahead of time and I got the s3. I wasn't dealing with any more crap phones from them even tho they say they r HTC certified
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Maybe the digitizer? If it's under warranty, take it to sprint. If not, you can get one on eBay not to pricey.
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So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
CM7 is very stable. As for it being "beta" cyanogen won't support it so until DZK figures a way to get around the bootloader it will keep the "beta" label.
Regarding the problems your having with your phone it sounds like it could be just that, problems with the phone, not the ROM. Eclipse and CM7 are the two most stable ROM's we have available and should not be the source of the kind of problems you describe.
And lastly remember CM7 runs on 2.3.4, it will give you fits if you try flashing it on 2.3.5.
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CM7 is quicker and more stable than any of the blur-based roms ever were on my phone, and all of them had a really irritating issue with bluetooth volume that CM7 fixed. I've been running on the same flash of beta 1 since January.
thanks for the replies guys, guess ill just flash cm7, and if I still have the same problems I can go talk to a verizon rep and see if I can get a replacement or somthing =/
this is actually making me laugh the stupid **** it's doing right now, I press play on a song, and the screen starts distorting, i exit and 90 seconds later the song starts playing, but then it pauses and the phone gets hot all of a sudden
how do you manage to **** up a phone this badly I just don't understand(I have owned this since 2011 may, it can't be a phone problem it just started happening 2-3 months ago)
Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Personally i hate people like you.... Why the hell should verizon send you a replacement for something youve ruined by throwing at a wall or across a room... Cm7 works fine but nothing will change the fact that abusing your electronics is your problem... You cant treat tech like that and expect it to keep working
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Oh please. The droid x2 is one of the WORST developed android phones out right now. Not only that, the issues I have had with it came LONG before I actually "threw" it. Obviously I didn't baseball throw it into a concrete wall, but it wasn't even close enough to do damage. Verizon should send me a replacement because motorola has created a pretty pathetic excuse for a phone, or because I received a defective phone. Like I said, these issues have been going for FOREVER, and this phone in general has had issues since its release.
The phone isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. You would think that we got a brick in A box. But cm7 is very stable and works well for DD.
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I agree that the Droid X2 isnt as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Any problems you have is either a defective phone or you flashed something the wrong way. Almost everyone who have these ROMs on their phones have no problems. So instead of blaming the phone and calling it crap, let us help you fix it.
First of all, as was mentioned already, CM7 and Eclipse are two of the most stable ROMs for this phone. Liberty was just a quick port and has not had any updates since its release. Honestly, I dont know why people still use it. The problem with Eclipse is that it is on a different kernel than every other ROM we have. So if you went from liberty to eclipse without changing the kernel to 2.3.5 first, you will experience problems. Did you install Eclipse by using the 2.3.5 SBF file first?
Or if you want the best of both world's I have eclipse 1.3. It runs on 2.3.4 kernel. These phones do get hot. What do you mean by overheat? Does it shut down or just feel hot?
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Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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RoyJ said:
Sounds like luck of the draw to me. I for one do my very best not to abuse electronics because they are 1) fragile and 2) expensive to buy/repair. Keeping that in mind, I did, ONE TIME, get blackout drunk and from what I'm told, chucked my X2 at someone's head and then they stomped on it, screen facing up. Absolutely no physical damage at all. That however is very, very, very rare.
Generally in my personal experience, Motorola makes some solid phones. I've put the Droid X, X2, Droid 3 and the new RAZR through hell and they all held up on performance after being dropped, kicked and being tossed onto asphalt and concrete. The only one I actually got the break with a reasonable amount of force was the Droid 3.
I can also tell you that no two phones are created equally, ever. Why do you think every single person who owns a Nexus isn't currently on the same ROM/kernel combo? What is fast, smooth & has good battery for me might be choppy and fast to discharge for someone else. Just because your phone doesn't act how it should doesn't mean its the ROM. You could have gotten a lemon (it happens) or maybe you just damaged internals when you chucked it. Doesn't matter if you didn't throw it like a baseball. All you need to do is hit the right part with the right amount of force. That's all it takes.
Hell when I got Verizon to exchange my X2, they sent me a Stratosphere. The same day I got the phone I put it on silent and went to bed. Some asshole called me at 2:30am that night. I did not answer it. instead, I rolled back over and went to bed. The phone vibrated off of my nightstand. It fell all of about 2.5 feet onto my BED then another 5 or so inches onto my carpeted floor. The screen was completely cracked and totally 100% unresponsive. There absolutely is no minimum requirement for force or distance needed to break your phone. Simple as that.
I can relate to you in the sense that I went through a phase where I hated the X2 as well, so I'm not trying to bash you. Keep that in mind . Also keep in mind that ICS wasn't even out yet. In fact CM9 wasn't much more than a rumor. The only ROMs I had to chose from were Molten & Liberty (both unsupported), Eclipse and CM7. I guess MIUI was out already, but it was so far down in the dev forum I didn't even know it existed months after I got the phone. Now you guys have ports for Paranoid Android and AOKP? Come on man. If I'd known they were coming I would have never left and got a Stratosphere.
Not to mention that the famous X2 developer, Dragonzkiller, is not only working on kexec for your phone, he's making progress with it. If he happens to get it working and you could load any kernels you wanted that would open up development around here and you would see a lot more, fully functional ROMs. It isn't so bad. When dzk gets kexec working you will have a great phone in terms of specs and ROMs, man.
You think a locked bootloader is bad?? Haha at least you have ROMs besides stock. My stratosphere? Sure the BL wasn't locked, but the radio interface layer was. In case you didn't know, ROMs like cyanogen, aokp, paranoid android, miui, eclipse, etc. use custom RILs. What this means is that the less than 7 month old 4g phone I got as a replacement for my X2 had much less going on for it than your phone. We had a grand total of TWO ROMs and they were both based off of stock. Just mostly theme changes. Plus only 1 kernel that would let us over clock. Barely.
To answer your first question, yes. Dragonzkiller's release of cyanogen mod 7 is stable enough to be used as a daily driver for your X2. I used it as my daily ROM for about 99% of the time I owned the phone. The other 1% was me trying other ROMs. Generally in CM7, everything works. The only issue I had (from memory) was the WiFi sleep issue. However, another one of the talented X2 developers released a new build.prop mash up which helped. It didn't keep WiFi from disconnecting when the phone slept for long periods of time, but it did reconnect it before I had a chance to get a "No Data" error message.
So you're stuck with the X2 for another year. So what? I don't see what *****ing about it here will do you. What do you want us to say? You don't like the phone? Sorry.. We can't change that for you. If you had posted this topic in any other phones forum, they would have flamed the living sh*t out of you by now lol. So that's another plus. You're a part of the best forum on XDA. Hands down.:thumbup:. If you have any issues with your phone... something isn't working, you soft bricked it, you flashed cm7 over 2.3.5 and you don't know what to do, etc., there will be someone here 24/7 to KINDLY assist you and get you back up and running again. Why do you think all of us who got Dinc2's or GNex's still come around here? Great community with kind, helpful people. I dare you to go to another forum and post a noob "help me" thread somewhere and watch how many hateful, unhelpful, "search next time noob, there's stickies for a reason" replies you get. I missed the X2 so much when I was stuck on my Stratosphere. You think your phone lags? Try going from a dual core to a single core. Hahahahaha, THEN come talk to me about lag. XD.
The best I can do for you is say call Verizon and tell them you're having issues with the phone. As long as it's not visibly noticeable that you damaged it, go through tech supports steps and have them replace it with another X2 and give these ROMs another go. I would have been pissed if I had year to go on stock motoblur, but luckily I had cm7 to make things okay.
And hey, maybe you can get it exchanged. Who knows? Quite a few of us did. Just be careful as to what phone you accept. They sold the Strat to me like it was a brand new, top of the line phone. I stupidly accepted it right away, just happy to get off of the X2 only to realize I screwed myself. I pretty much had to give Verizon my left nut to get this GNex, and that was my favorite one.
Besides "sorry for the long post" - that's all i have to say. Good luck.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Check this thread out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707
If you are going to take your phone into Verizon, follow these instructions to get your phone back to stock. This will remove root and make it like you just bought your phone. Who knows, maybe it will fix the problems you have as well. Try it out and if your issues continue, take it in.
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Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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**** run aokp on this phone and tell me if u dont like it
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morlakai said:
Thanks for the long reply, I realize what I did/posted what a bit childish (I am 20 years old, I shouldn't be crying over stuff like this) but I really have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life, even my moto razr that I had years ago functioned better!
I guess my only plan is to go to verizon to get it exchanged, only thing is I am not sure how to approach them with a rooted phone. Do I unroot it and then go in to the store, or do I just tell them I rooted it...Plus I have had the phone for a year, so I am not sure how they will respond to that.
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Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senseless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
tallyforeman said:
Getting frustrated is very easy to do and really don't help much. Want some senless humor, read a few pages back in Off Topic and read my rants. I was ready to trash my new Gnex.
Just take a breather and ask for a hand. We are all like one big dysfunctional family. I've yet to see anyone be neglected that has needed help.
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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What was the problem with the nexus?
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To this day I still don't know. Maybe user error, but I think it is tempermental. I literally had to wipe the hell out of it before I could flash the first rom. At one point I wiped everything so many times, I really thought it was over. But all of a sudden it decided to work and hasn't missed a beat since. Now, I don't wipe anything on it anymore. It runs like a sewing machine.
CM7 is still rockin' on 2 of the X2's that I loaded and themed out.
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So currently I am running liberty3, and I don't know if it is the rom or not, but my phone has been overheating, freezing, and just being really god damn slow. It has been like this for a while now, I have even throw my phone out of frustration(because eclipse was the same way) and I have no what to do.
I am debating to just flash cm7, but heard it is still in beta, and I was wondering if people are using it even though there are bugs.
Really frustrated at the moment would appreciate some info...(1 more year on this contract before I can get rid of this POS...=/)
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As far as overheating is concerned you may want to look at adobe flash. Using the latest version caused issues for me and I gave had to revert back to a previous version. As others have mentioned going with CM7 or eclipse will make a huge difference. I have had 3 other smartphones with vzw and this was the best one so far.
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RoyJ said:
Basically you would need to SBF your phone. SBF stands for system boot file, I believe. It is the complete stock factory image for your phone. That plus a data wipe/factory reset and they will have no idea you ever rooted it.
As for having it for a year, you may run into a problem there. Motorola might cover the X2 for two years, I'm not sure. Your warranty could be expired. You have to call Verizon to know for sure. If it's not expired just tell them that you're having whatever issues. They will run you through some steps, probably a data wipe, amongst other things. You tell them that no, none of the steps were able to fix the problems you are currently facing. At this point, if the phone is still under warranty they will go ahead and replace it for you. If not they will tell you to go through insurance, if you have it.
If not you're either going to have to pay for another phone off contract from a third party or stick with the one you have now.
If you still have warranty and really want to get a different phone, just tell them that you did plenty of research independently online and it would seem that no amount of X2s will fix the problems you have. That they seem to be due to poor coding at Motorola's end. That's what I did. Just remember to look up the phone they offer you as a replacement so you don't get burned like me. Not just the specs, but here on xda and rootzwiki as well. Make sure there's a development forum for it with plenty of selections for ROMs and kernels before you make your choice.
I was able to not only get rid of my X2 like that, but the Stratosphere as well. The one I had less than a month hahaha. If you're covered by warranty give it a shot.
P.S. The most frustrated I have ever been with a piece of electronics? My PlayStation 2 slim. I had a few of them, but there was one in particular that pissed me off. It slowly but surely stopped reading my discs. 1 at a time. It would read a game, I'd go to bed and the next day it wouldn't read that game anymore. It could play other games, but not that one. It got progressively worse until the only disc of any format it would read was SOCOM: Combined Assault. Wasn't too bad, it'd give me trouble every now and then, but it was the only disc it would play for months. Socom also happened to be my favorite game at the time and I played it all the time with my cousins and friends from school. We were all in a clan and we ran that game. Anyways I was with a bunch of guys one day and we were in the middle of a clan war. Ladder match. We made it all the way to the top, and my PS2 stopped reading socom. I tried frantically to get it working again, but it was useless. The laser finally crapped out. In a blind rage knowing the PS2 just cost us our biggest clan war ever, I threw it out of my second story window. I then proceeded to go outside with a hammer and utterly destroy it.
I had just gotten a job and was working, so I had to buy a new one. Lesson learned. Those *****es were expensive lol. Never did anything like that again.
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ah ok, yeah I know how to SBF, so I will most likely do that and go to the verizon store to see what's up
if they offer me a replacement phone, I guess ill just ask them to give me a few days to make a decision so I can do research and find out if I am getting ripped off or not
thanks for all the replies guys, I know I come off as kind of an ass(ill be honest im pretty douchey) but this phone has transformed me into something T_T
cm7 is a good rom. Fast too! Since it is still based on the 2.3.4 kernel it has the orientation sensor bug too though.
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Well everybody my Mega is there at Samsung in Plano, TX hopefully getting reflashed or repaired or whatever the hell they're gonna do to it. Hopefully it's FUBAR and they can't tell it's been rooted lol.
Sub'd. I need to know how this goes, because I am getting sick of not having my phone work. I don't trust them, but my distrust is being outweighed by my massive lack of patience.
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Sub'd. I need to know how this goes, because I am getting sick of not having my phone work. I don't trust them, but my distrust is being outweighed by my massive lack of patience.
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The lack of patience is why I didn't wait more than a day before sending it lol. I'll keep ya posted for sure. If it works, i'll tell you exactly what I did to mess it up as bad as I did.
I think you'll be fine. Like three years ago when I was a android rookie I had brick my vibrant and couldn't figure out how to fix it. It was rooted and bricked and I couldn't fix it so I said **** it and I sent it to samsung on the hopes they wouldn't discover my unlawfulness. Well two weeks after I got it back fresh in a new box. Perfectly fixed.
Also one time I had an iPhone 3gs that was jailbroken but the screen was broken and wouldn't recognize any touching on it. So I just handed it to the guy and he couldn't slide to unlock it to check it out so they gave me a refurbished one without even checking if I had messed with it. Got lucky on both days I guess haha :good:
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I sent mine out monday morning,got there today.Its already fixed and being sent out today,should be back by monday.I soft bricked mine trying to achieve root and it wouldn't boot passed the samsung galaxy mega statup.They fixed with just a stock firmware update,which I could of done myself if I had the stock odin firmware tar file,o well at least it ffixed and ill have it back within 7 days,not bad thought it would take at least two weeks
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I sent mine out monday morning,got there today.Its already fixed and being sent out today,should be back by monday.I soft bricked mine trying to achieve root and it wouldn't boot passed the samsung galaxy mega statup.They fixed with just a stock firmware update,which I could of done myself if I had the stock odin firmware tar file,o well at least it ffixed and ill have it back within 7 days,not bad thought it would take at least two weeks
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Oh nice! How the hell is yours fixed and all the way back to you? I even called to expedite mine lol.
PhilupBlunts said:
I think you'll be fine. Like three years ago when I was a android rookie I had brick my vibrant and couldn't figure out how to fix it. It was rooted and bricked and I couldn't fix it so I said **** it and I sent it to samsung on the hopes they wouldn't discover my unlawfulness. Well two weeks after I got it back fresh in a new box. Perfectly fixed.
Also one time I had an iPhone 3gs that was jailbroken but the screen was broken and wouldn't recognize any touching on it. So I just handed it to the guy and he couldn't slide to unlock it to check it out so they gave me a refurbished one without even checking if I had messed with it. Got lucky on both days I guess haha :good:
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Yeah but back then I dont think samsung had the counter flash... If you send a phone witch is brick and wont go to download mode is possible they will never find out but it is obvious that if JTAG works it was not a hardware issue
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Oh nice! How the hell is yours fixed and all the way back to you? I even called to expedite mine lol.
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Any updates? I'm really not stoked on how long this entire process is taking, and I'm not even the guy whose phone they have!
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Any updates? I'm really not stoked on how long this entire process is taking, and I'm not even the guy whose phone they have!
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Maaaaaaan I've been checking on this crap every day lol. On Friday afternoon I got a call saying that my LCD was damaged and had to be replaced. That fee was $200, but I raised hell for like 30 minutes telling them to just use my old LCD because it still worked and I just wanted my phone reflashed. Needless to say, my LCD was replaced free of charge and that I should have my phone back by Friday 11-1-13 or before. This was on Friday and I called yesterday and they couldn't tell me anything because there were no updates in the system. I checked today and still no updates in their system.
Side note: Did you see a message in Kies saying that the firmware was now available for our device? I swear I saw something to that effect the last time I got on my computer. Would that help you out at all?
ODIN flashable firmware is my last hope, i suspect it will work, but only time will tell. I keep searching, checking sammobile, but nothing yet.
I'm to the point where I am holding off on buying car mods to do this winter because I have a sinking feeling I will be buying a new phone in the near future.
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ODIN flashable firmware is my last hope, i suspect it will work, but only time will tell. I keep searching, checking sammobile, but nothing yet.
I'm to the point where I am holding off on buying car mods to do this winter because I have a sinking feeling I will be buying a new phone in the near future.
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Just checked on my phone and it should be shipping back to me today so I hope like hell i'll get it tomorrow. I honestly think you'll be ok. Two of the CSRs mentioned to me that they reflash the devices before they even inspect them.
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Side note: Did you see a message in Kies saying that the firmware was now available for our device? I swear I saw something to that effect the last time I got on my computer. Would that help you out at all?
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There is a new firmware update, but it's not supported by AT&T due to the locked bootloader.
Send it on!!!!!!
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ODIN flashable firmware is my last hope, i suspect it will work, but only time will tell. I keep searching, checking sammobile, but nothing yet.
I'm to the point where I am holding off on buying car mods to do this winter because I have a sinking feeling I will be buying a new phone in the near future.
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Hey i got my phone back. It took 8 business days, but because i was refuising to pay for the lcd repair. I have my phone back. They reflashed it at no charge and all that. They told me they do that before they inspect anything. I would imagine your would be reflashed and returned fairly quickly.
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Hey i got my phone back. It took 8 business days, but because i was refuising to pay for the lcd repair. I have my phone back. They reflashed it at no charge and all that. They told me they do that before they inspect anything. I would imagine your would be reflashed and returned fairly quickly.
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Nice to hear and it works likes it should again. :good: