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Is there an actual release date for the 2.2 source?
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Crankycoder said:
Is there an actual release date for the 2.2 source?
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No date. They have up to 60 days after they released the update to actually release the source code. They've been releasing source around 30 days or so usually for other builds
Awesome so its coming soon? Ish
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Awesome so its coming soon? Ish
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Hm, hopefully.
Yea I wouldn't hold my breath.
theexel said:
Hm, hopefully.
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Well they're bound by the GPL to release it within 60 days after the update goes public (I believe)....but yeah I wouldn't recommend holding your breath that long either.
thegreatcity said:
Well they're bound by the GPL to release it within 60 days after the update goes public (I believe)....but yeah I wouldn't recommend holding your breath that long either.
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Lol....I didn't know they had to.
fyi, March 23rd is 60 days.
That's not too bad... I can wait with miui
So is the source Eugene posted not the "official " source? ?
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I think it wad T959D (captivate) but correct me if im wrong
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Theres no such thing as a 60 day limit with the gpl v 2. I'm not sure why this rumor exists.
The gpl is pretty explicit, if you get compiled code, you also get rights to the source. At most, you have to ask for it and you have to pay cost of media.
Google for gpl 2 license, and just read it. I can't seem to post a link.
I thought the delay was just samsung being slow, not that they were in violation of the license.
If you've installed a kernel and you didn't get a copy of the gpl license agreement, that's also a violation.
If you haven't yet made a request, go to opensource dot samsung dot com and put in a formal request for the android 2.2 kernel source for your vibrant.
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Crankycoder said:
Theres no such thing as a 60 day limit with the gpl v 2. I'm not sure why this rumor exists.
The gpl is pretty explicit, if you get compiled code, you also get rights to the source. At most, you have to ask for it and you have to pay cost of media.
Google for gpl 2 license, and just read it. I can't seem to post a link.
I thought the delay was just samsung being slow, not that they were in violation of the license.
If you've installed a kernel and you didn't get a copy of the gpl license agreement, that's also a violation.
If you haven't yet made a request, go to opensource dot samsung dot com and put in a formal request for the android 2.2 kernel source for your vibrant.
Vic
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Uhhhhh....I'm not going to say you're wrong since I don't know out for sure...
bionix 1.2.1 with adw launcher ex
Has anyone received an OTA update?
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Has anyone received an OTA update?
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They are talking about the source of froyo that the devs use to compile kernels and such (which samsung has not given us... yet). The OTA was released on january 21
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Is the source code for 3.5 available? I can't tell if I'm blind or it doesn't exist.
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It appears the answer to my questions is "both". My brain totally ignored this sentence in the release notes.
Some of the Android code licensed under the Apache and other Open Source licenses for this alpha test version is not yet available to the general public.
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In lieu of all of these leaked ics roms from someone inside Samsung is this considered theft? And if we have this on our devices isn't there a chance we could potentially get in trouble if the right person were to find out?
With that said, xda does not support piracy because the software costs money and is given for free. The same goes with leaked roms that were stolen from samsung right? So xda mods, how can you support something like this and allow it on the forum? I'm neutral to this argument and would like your thoughts.
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The "leaked ROMs" are technically made up of open source material, so there is no theft issue. As for the person leaking them, they may be subject to disciplinary action by their employer, but there is no illegality for having said ROM on your phone. Most of these supposed "leaked ROMs" are actually leaked on purpose by the manufacturer as a way to get the flashing community to do their R&D for free. We are only too willing to help them in that.
haha yeah, samsung is just letting xda devs do some of the work!
akira02rex said:
In lieu of all of these leaked ics roms from someone inside Samsung is this considered theft? And if we have this on our devices isn't there a chance we could potentially get in trouble if the right person were to find out?
With that said, xda does not support piracy because the software costs money and is given for free. The same goes with leaked roms that were stolen from samsung right? So xda mods, how can you support something like this and allow it on the forum? I'm neutral to this argument and would like your thoughts.
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Its not theft per say. These are roms (or software if you will) that is build from free source code provided by Google and is made FOR OUR PHONES. They have to build several roms to make sure all the bugs are out. They send out these "leaked" roms to testing to find all the hidden (or non-obvious) bugs so they can fix them before the rom is considered gold (or stable, official). You know as well as I do that once something hits the internet it spreads like wildfire, so thats how they get out in the masses.
Since there is no price on the roms and they are built from free source code, XDA is not responsible for anything in this regard.
The Apache license is a grey area in this regard. Similarly, the ICS leaks technically ARE GPL violations in that kernel source hasn't been included - however again it's a grey area since technically we're not supposed to have the binaries in the first place.
Also, I believe most leaks are not obtained by "theft", but by using an undocumented firmware update mode that lets the leaks be downloaded directly from Samsung's Kies update servers.
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Its not theft per say. These are roms (or software if you will) that is build from free source code provided by Google and is made FOR OUR PHONES. They have to build several roms to make sure all the bugs are out. They send out these "leaked" roms to testing to find all the hidden (or non-obvious) bugs so they can fix them before the rom is considered gold (or stable, official). You know as well as I do that once something hits the internet it spreads like wildfire, so thats how they get out in the masses.
Since there is no price on the roms and they are built from free source code, XDA is not responsible for anything in this regard.
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Hmm it just seems like that argument wouldn't hold up in a court of law? Its being taken no matter how you slice it. It was built using source but where's the intent to distribute? If there's no intent (yet) then they aren't obligated to release it based on gpl.
Thoughts?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420996
Bam. Legal, official ROM. DONE.
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Entropy512 said:
The Apache license is a grey area in this regard. Similarly, the ICS leaks technically ARE GPL violations in that kernel source hasn't been included - however again it's a grey area since technically we're not supposed to have the binaries in the first place.
Also, I believe most leaks are not obtained by "theft", but by using an undocumented firmware update mode that lets the leaks be downloaded directly from Samsung's Kies update servers.
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akira02rex said:
Hmm it just seems like that argument wouldn't hold up in a court of law? Its being taken no matter how you slice it. It was built using source but where's the intent to distribute? If there's no intent (yet) then they aren't obligated to release it based on gpl.
Thoughts?
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As Entropy said, its a grey area. I guess technically it is a violation of GPL due to source not being released with the leak, but then the leak isnt being documented as gold or official, so since its still in its "testing" phase, it dosent count (which is why all leaked roms are required to say that they are leaked testing roms, not official and to flash at your own risk... official dropped roms will say official). Now if somebody took a leaked build with no source and distributed it as gold or official, then yes that would not hold up and would be in direct violation and could be held accountable.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420996
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No, not official, still a leak. The poster should not have used "Official" to describe a leak that happened to have a signed kernel.
Red5 said:
As Entropy said, its a grey area. I guess technically it is a violation of GPL due to source not being released with the leak, but then the leak isnt being documented as gold or official, so since its still in its "testing" phase, it dosent count (which is why all leaked roms are required to say that they are leaked testing roms, not official and to flash at your own risk... official dropped roms will say official). Now if somebody took a leaked build with no source and distributed it as gold or official, then yes that would not hold up and would be in direct violation and could be held accountable.
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Declaring that something is a test version does not permit you to withhold source code.
The main thing is that if you read the license, if you give the binary to someone, you are supposed to provide source. If you received a binary from someone with a written offer for source, you must pass on that written offer.
The problem is that Samsung is "providing" test versions to their testers - some people on XDA have just managed how to intercept this method of providing builds by polling Samsung's update servers, but NOT the method for intercepting the source or the source offer.
Entropy512 said:
No, not official, still a leak. The poster should not have used "Official" to describe a leak that happened to have a signed kernel.
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Buzzkill.
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Entropy512 said:
No, not official, still a leak. The poster should not have used "Official" to describe a leak that happened to have a signed kernel.
Declaring that something is a test version does not permit you to withhold source code.
The main thing is that if you read the license, if you give the binary to someone, you are supposed to provide source. If you received a binary from someone with a written offer for source, you must pass on that written offer.
The problem is that Samsung is "providing" test versions to their testers - some people on XDA have just managed how to intercept this method of providing builds by polling Samsung's update servers, but NOT the method for intercepting the source or the source offer.
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I should have been more clear. I didnt mean that it permitted anyone to have without source code... but merely that Samsung does not have to provide it yet since it isnt official. By Samsung giving out a test build to test for bugs, they do not have to give out source code yet (mainly why they kept testing in house so its blanketed under the same company because the company does in fact have the source code from Google) until they release it outside the company.
And yes, just because some members intercept the leaked test builds, they were not handed to by Samsung which is why they do not have the source code in the first place. People here distribute it to other members but it is not attached here on XDA, they upload it to a share site and simply post the links here at XDA.
I work for the FBI and it is illegal. This is a bust and you're all under arrest. Post your addresses so we can come and arrest you. kthxbai
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Red5 said:
I should have been more clear. I didnt mean that it permitted anyone to have without source code... but merely that Samsung does not have to provide it yet since it isnt official. By Samsung giving out a test build to test for bugs, they do not have to give out source code yet (mainly why they kept testing in house so its blanketed under the same company because the company does in fact have the source code from Google) until they release it outside the company.
And yes, just because some members intercept the leaked test builds, they were not handed to by Samsung which is why they do not have the source code in the first place. People here distribute it to other members but it is not attached here on XDA, they upload it to a share site and simply post the links here at XDA.
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Yup - that's basically it. The people whom Samsung is actually "providing" these builds to most likely have source code access.
We don't have source because they didn't really "provide" us the leak.
How u do dat
wonner said:
I work for the FBI and it is illegal. This is a bust and you're all under arrest. Post your addresses so we can come and arrest you. kthxbai
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I agree what a wasteful buzz kill post
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rboone18 said:
I agree what a wasteful buzz kill post
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Nobody asked you.
Who are you even responding too? What a wasteful post.
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OK guys this has gone on long enough. To respond to the OP. OEM have long allowed early builds to be leaked to XDA for bugging hunting and troubleshooting. Should do a little research before you start a thread like this.
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OK guys this has gone on long enough. To respond to the OP. OEM have long allowed early builds to be leaked to XDA for bugging hunting and troubleshooting. Should do a little research before you start a thread like this.
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Buzzkill...
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Red5 said:
Buzzkill...
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Yup
This is a Google+ post asking Samsung to release the source code for the bluetooth/audio/MHL/dock/display devices in our phone. If you're not aware, this code is NOT in the open source kernel. They are modules that load separately. We need this source code to make our phone the PERFECT Android phone. Cyanogenmod Dev Team can do wonders with this code! Please +1 this post or even make your own. We need to Samsung to hear us! Not all of us are programmers (definitely not me), so we need to contribute in other ways!
Jim
OccupySamsung!
I would say that the requested code might have some (if not all) proprietary code and even some "secret" code when it comes to the NHL part for the hdmi encryption...
But I could be completely wrong about that...
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Its possible, but any code drop would help. And the encryption you're thinking of would be HDCP and that should be handled by the chipset not the software.
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Just sent Samsung mobile USA a message on Facebook about the source code, hope they respond.
Please people, let's get Samsung to recognize us! We need this source to make our phones the best. I know I say that every couple of posts. I just hope that the guy above this post gets lots of 'likes' on his Facebook post to Sammy. Help him out guys/gals!
Jim
I actually once managed to get a message from a guy at Samsung Support telling me to reach out to SamsungJohn for developer needs...
I sent him a pretty nasty message back, going into post-by-post detail of SamsungJohn's complete failure to provide any help whatsoever to the developer community.
I'm seriously thinking that my next device will be a Sony - As much as I hate Sony in general, SE went above and beyond in terms of supporting the Cyanogenmod team, leading to their entire 2011 lineup being almost fully supported by CM. Meanwhile, Samsung sends a few CM team members devices as a publicity stunt and doesn't bother at all to provide any followup support.
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I actually once managed to get a message from a guy at Samsung Support telling me to reach out to SamsungJohn for developer needs...
I sent him a pretty nasty message back, going into post-by-post detail of SamsungJohn's complete failure to provide any help whatsoever to the developer community.
I'm seriously thinking that my next device will be a Sony - As much as I hate Sony in general, SE went above and beyond in terms of supporting the Cyanogenmod team, leading to their entire 2011 lineup being almost fully supported by CM. Meanwhile, Samsung sends a few CM team members devices as a publicity stunt and doesn't bother at all to provide any followup support.
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I saw the post you are talking about. And I sent a Twitter to SamsungJohn and never heard back. I know I keep talking about this, but something has to be changed. I'm on UnNamedROM right now, and while it's good, it's not CM. Maybe if Sammy releases ICS for the I9100/I777 then they'll release some more code for our phones. Probably don't want CM to show them up on releases. But either way, we need to make Samsung aware of our demands. And Entropy, thank you VERY much for your efforts with NFC, and WiFi tether. It's much appreciated!
Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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SII 2 Envy said:
Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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And the significance of that for our i777 would be....?
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Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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Maybe I missed it. I did a search and came up with nothing.
Kadin said:
And the significance of that for our i777 would be....?
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It might help us start to port it to our own device
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SII 2 Envy said:
Code was already released for S2 international version...see zedomax website.
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No, it hasn't been released (except for the GPL kernel source) - nothing ICS-related, none of the audio libraries or anything like that have source code.
zedomax.com has nothing but pages and pages of stupid Top Five posts.
Entropy512 said:
No, it hasn't been released (except for the GPL kernel source) - nothing ICS-related, none of the audio libraries or anything like that have source code.
zedomax.com has nothing but pages and pages of stupid Top Five posts.
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galaxys2root.com and YouTube
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I tried reaching out to samsungjohn, too. Obviously no response.
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If only they would...I'm sure they're planning some event around it.
lol we can only hope.
I need your help to petition against Xiaomi to release their mi3 kernel source code.
https://www.change.org/petitions/xiaomi-release-mi3-kernel-source
As you know, kernel source is mandatory as per GPL, but because Xiaomi refuses to obey said law, we, the users, must act. Along with this, development is really difficult without a proper kernel source from the manufacturers. So we need your help to make our community a bigger, more inviting place for developers so you can get all the options to run an unlimited choices of ROMs
So, in other words, help me bring this to their attention! Let's go and win the device for the community!
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I need your help to petition against Xiaomi to release their mi3 kernel source code.
https://www.change.org/petitions/xiaomi-release-mi3-kernel-source
As you know, kernel source is mandatory as per GPL, but because Xiaomi refuses to obey said law, we, the users, must act. Along with this, development is really difficult without a proper kernel source from the manufacturers. So we need your help to make our community a bigger, more inviting place for developers so you can get all the options to run an unlimited choices of ROMs
So, in other words, help me bring this to their attention! Let's go and win the device for the community!
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Signed it! :good:
Now let's hope...:fingers-crossed:
signed....
I don't own a mi3 but I signed too. Heh.
It's done
Done
Totally agree with you... Signed..
You're all doing spectacular! The next step is sharing. Keep posting this on every social media outlet you can!
DONE!:good:
Done
Done
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one more than the request joins!
Done
Done. But I think it‘ll take little effect。
pandasa123 said:
I need your help to petition against Xiaomi to release their mi3 kernel source code.
https://www.change.org/petitions/xiaomi-release-mi3-kernel-source
As you know, kernel source is mandatory as per GPL, but because Xiaomi refuses to obey said law, we, the users, must act. Along with this, development is really difficult without a proper kernel source from the manufacturers. So we need your help to make our community a bigger, more inviting place for developers so you can get all the options to run an unlimited choices of ROMs
So, in other words, help me bring this to their attention! Let's go and win the device for the community!
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Now here lies the problem, there is already a petition raised there with little less than 500 people already signed, rather than signing another petition earlier one could have been supported to make it more emphatic.
http://www.change.org/p/xiaomi-inc-...pt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
Done
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Its done. Also I sent a pm to Hugo Barra in Facebook to release the kernel source at earliest lol lol... ....will post here if he replied.
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Its done. Also I sent a pm to Hugo Barra in Facebook to release the kernel source at earliest lol lol... ....will post here if he replied.
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Hahahahha..i hope he do
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Signed the petition with 400+ signatures.
Me too signed the petition and shared in FB...
HEY GUYS. Lets do a troll here. Why not share this link to Hugo Barra's Facebook by Private Messaging?
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