I got a verizon samsung fascinate from ebay, But I was not aware that it is a cdma phone since the ebay buyer put it as Samsung galaxy S.
Now that I've a Samsung Fascinate, I want to use it on CDMA network in my country (india).
Questions :
Since it is a simless phone, I want to know how to make it work on reliance cdma network in india.
Is there anything like 'unlocking' as it is for gsm phones ?
Also the phone is running stock 2.1 OS. Want to upgrade it to 2.2, does this help anyway do away with lot of verizon apps and dependency ?
I know if rooted, you can change to some networks (I have seen Cricket Fascinates), but I'm not sure of the particulars.
Samsung Fascinate, Verizon
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There's a Reliance-branded i500 with the same CDMA bands (in fact, I think it's the exact same phone as our Fascinate), so yeah it should work hardware-wise.
CDMA doesn't require unlock per se, just proper setting alterations and activation by the carrier. The settings may require a tool like QPST to alter, or you could try flashing the Reliance i500 firmware (be careful with that, though).
Are there any Indian Android forums? Somebody who's hacked their i500 should be able to help.
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Theoretically would it be possible to snag the radio out of one US GS3 variant and swap it to another?
Example:
I have a Cricket S3, but have access to a VZW S3 donor. Can I snatch the VZW radio out and put it in my Cricket S3 to allow it to have the different LTE frequency ability or is the radio actually part of the main board?
I know I would have to flash the Cricket settings back to have a phone and possibly work out a completely custom kernel
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Hi All. Just got my hands on AT&T Galaxy Note LTE i717. So far, its Unlocked and rooted through Odin. Going to to CWM 10 soon. Projecting a ParanoidKANGdroid 2.3.3 rom too (or any other rom).
But my main concern would be, with my locality in mind (i'm in singapore):
1) Would I be able to clear all AT&T apps? Meaning is it a must for me to have at&t apps inside to keep the phone working?
2) Would the phone work in singapore after flashing? Currently, it is working fine unflashed and in AT&T stock.
3) would my LTE function work? (It does not have a mini sim card slot but a normal slot)
I've searched through but I might have missed some useful links. Apologies if I do. Do guide me to the right path if possible.
Thank you.
If you're going to CM, why are you even asking about AT&T apps?
As for working in Singapore, you'll have to compare frequencies between your carrier and AT&T's. And the i717 doesn't have a microsim.
You should be fine!
If you install a custom rom it won't have at&t bloat, or apps. You can download them if needed.
Take notice of what modem you're on now. It's in settings - about phone - baseband version. If it's working fine make a note of it. Installing custom roms shouldn't change your modem. I'd find a downloadable zip of it for peace of mind. Updating thru kies can change the modem. So if something goes wrong you can revert back to stock and still have the modem you desire.
Thanks lots guys! appreciate much!
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There's a galaxy note released for the Singapore market. It's called the n7005.
Novena is a Rom based on that firmware btw...and since its Singapore Rom, no AT&T apps.
As far as running an aosp Rom, no AT&T apps are needed, and as long as you copy down your apn data before flashing just to be safe, there's no reason you shouldn't get lte,
Singapore uses the same lte bands that American carriers use.
studacris said:
There's a galaxy note released for the Singapore market. It's called the n7005.
Novena is a Rom based on that firmware btw...and since its Singapore Rom, no AT&T apps.
As far as running an aosp Rom, no AT&T apps are needed, and as long as you copy down your apn data before flashing just to be safe, there's no reason you shouldn't get lte,
Singapore uses the same lte bands that American carriers use.
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I don't mean to contradict you sir, but are you sure about the LTE? according to this list of LTE networks AT&T uses 4 and 17 and Singapore uses 3 and 7.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Those numbers are bands and frequencies just for the LTE network but the frequencies are the same 900 and 1900 mhz for the 4G network. So, like a lot of at&t users, 4G is the more common network in Singapore.
Gotcha, the post said lte so I figured that's what we were focusing on, not 4g.my bad!
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For my phone listed in title, am I able to work this onto a wireless carrier such as Wind Mobile? I'm not sure if the phone itself will work on their AWS network. Wind says they use 1700/2100. I'm trying to unlock my phone and see if this will be a useful move.
Link (for my phone specs AFAIK): gsmarena.com/samsung_vibrant-3416.php
Note: I know it's the vibrant model, but in Canada they renamed it differently for no reason.
I live in a TERRIBLE LTE area they just turned it on and my phone perfers LTE over 3G and when on LTE the phone DOES NOT WORK AT ALL its annoying all phones in the house are like that.. But all the phones I can force to WCDMA only where it does not try to pull LTE.
But when I try to do it on the Note 1 it just resets back to default as soon as I choose WCDMA only. I know its a limitation of the AT&T Radio doing it. (current has the Jelly Bean international rom flashed to it)
Is there a CWM flashing Radio/Modem I could use to fix that? Maybe Telus or Rogers? I have the Note 1 when it first came out and forgotten.
ALL the Canadian radios are posted in the Canadian Firmware post in the Development section. I use the Rogers ROM and the Rogers radio in Pennsylvania and those options work 100%.
There is an international ROM for the I717? I don't think so. You may want to flash the Canadian ROM also.
Long story short my work has offered me cell phone service but they only have Verizon or ATT.
I have a tmob s4 ... rooted and custom rom. Are the phones "essentially" the same so with a kernel and modem would I be good on Verizon?
Any caveats to be concerned with? its been probably 8 years since I had a Verizon plan but it does offer better coverage than ATT in the places I need...
thansks!
Razzzzer said:
Long story short my work has offered me cell phone service but they only have Verizon or ATT.
I have a tmob s4 ... rooted and custom rom. Are the phones "essentially" the same so with a kernel and modem would I be good on Verizon?
Any caveats to be concerned with? its been probably 8 years since I had a Verizon plan but it does offer better coverage than ATT in the places I need...
thansks!
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Only the Verizon S4 will work with Verizon, you'll need to go to ATT.
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Only the Verizon S4 will work with Verizon, you'll need to go to ATT.
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I see others that have used the Verizon s4 on Tmob so not sure why the reverse wouldn't be true... ill research more but I am finding that all the s4 hardware is the same... only software differences.. (possible that its not possible to get the Verizon software on the phone the hardware should be the same)...
maybe get some more input
Razzzzer said:
I see others that have used the Verizon s4 on Tmob so not sure why the reverse wouldn't be true... ill research more but I am finding that all the s4 hardware is the same... only software differences.. (possible that its not possible to get the Verizon software on the phone the hardware should be the same)...
maybe get some more input
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I don't know where you're researching, but the S4 definitely has hardware differences.
Verizon is what's called a "CDMA" carrier. Their S4 includes hardware that can connect to both their CDMA and others' GSM networks.
T-Mobile has a GSM network. Their S4 includes only the GSM hardware, there is no possibility of using it with a CDMA carrier.
Most variations of the S4 also have slightly different sets of "bands" that they can connect to, so the speed you get will vary depending on both the network type and your S4's type. However, the S4 should be able to get at least 2G on any GSM network. Verizon's S4 has the widest possible area of use, because it includes both CDMA and GSM. It can be used on T-Mobile or ATT, but their S4s cannot be used on Verizon entirely because of the hardware differences.
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I don't know where you're researching, but the S4 definitely has hardware differences.
Verizon is what's called a "CDMA" carrier. Their S4 includes hardware that can connect to both their CDMA and others' GSM networks.
T-Mobile has a GSM network. Their S4 includes only the GSM hardware, there is no possibility of using it with a CDMA carrier.
Most variations of the S4 also have slightly different sets of "bands" that they can connect to, so the speed you get will vary depending on both the network type and your S4's type. However, the S4 should be able to get at least 2G on any GSM network. Verizon's S4 has the widest possible area of use, because it includes both CDMA and GSM. It can be used on T-Mobile or ATT, but their S4s cannot be used on Verizon entirely because of the hardware differences.
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I understand the networks are different.. what I am seeing is that the hardware is the same ... they all have the same chips.. the different carriers are just using software to use what they need
for example here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25953096&postcount=13
and this thread has examples of people who have used their Verizon on Tmob (voice, wifi, and 4g)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331131
long story short they say all the phones are the same... they just use different Radio software (plus kernel I assume)
The answer is simple: You will never use a T-Mobile S4 on Verizon.
Verizon S4 on T-Mobile is completely irrelevant, because they're designed to work that way.
Razzzzer said:
I understand the networks are different.. what I am seeing is that the hardware is the same ... they all have the same chips.. the different carriers are just using software to use what they need
for example here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25953096&postcount=13
and this thread has examples of people who have used their Verizon on Tmob (voice, wifi, and 4g)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331131
long story short they say all the phones are the same... they just use different Radio software (plus kernel I assume)
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There is NO CDMA radio in a T-Mobile GS4.
Even if it were, Verizon will not add foreign IMEID/ESN to their database. Without the IMEID/ESN added to the database you cannot get voice service. You could possibly take a provisioned SIM and get data only, but what good is that.
Sell the S4, buy an HTC M8 do S-Off, move on.
Your S4 will never work on Verizon.