These dumpstate_app & dumpstate_sys files on my SD card root? I have no clue..lots of em though.
They are from an app or process force closing. Not all apps create them. If you don't feel like debugging an app closing, then you can get rid of them.
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Most of us are somewhat familiar with how apps2sd works on Froyo. It does not use a sd card partition like the ones we are used to. All system apps, apps you run widgets from, homelaunchers, etc need to be saved on internal memory (you don't have a choice with the system apps) to avoid errors when you reboot or connect via usb. Since the apps are physically located on the sd they become unmounted when the sd card is no longer mounted.
What I'm curious of is where the apps are saved on the sd? I imagine they would save to a hidden file. If this is the case, is it possible to manually move system apps with root explorer or adb commands from internal to the sd card? Obviously, you wouldn't want to move anything crucial to the boot or remount but apps such as e-mail and maps (memory hogs)?
I've noticed when moving apps to the sd from internal that only about half of the file size is actually moved. So does this mean my above question is impossible?
Does anyone REALLY understand how apps2sd works on Froyo?
Is it possible to install another apps2sd (one that allows an sd partition)?
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All you need to do to move apps manually to sd is from home go menu> settings> applications> manage applications, then you can select the app you want to move and select move to sd. This works for any app. If the "move to sd" button is grayed, make sure you check the box in "cyanogenmod settings" to allow moving any app to sd.
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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When using froyo apps2sd you cant have an EXT partition on your SD card also if that isnt the issue check the space on your SD card, also turn on both "save to" settings in Cyanogen Settings to external and also in the applications settings
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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I too am on KaosFroyo and have no problems doing this. Not sure why it's not working for you but I hope ya figure it out!
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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Oops, sorry... must have read too fast. I can't move them neither.
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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Thats what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up.
So I was thinking, maybe we can get around this. What if we delete the file for whatever system app (we'll say FB for this example) and re-download it from the market (or install from a file on your sd card). Would it still be a system app? Could we then save it to the sd?
I think I'm going to try it. I'll report success or failure.
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SUCCESS! Using root explorer, I moved the facebook files located in system/app and data/app to my sd card. I then used linda manager and installed facebook.apk. I opened the app and all seems well. I then went into manage applications in settings and moved it to the sd card.
I'm going to do some more testing and post a new thread for guys like me who can't have TOO MUCH free internal memory.
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I just got a new sd card with more memory space(had 2g now 16g). Now that i have the room i would like to transfer all my apps to sd. The thing is a lot of the apps i have ive made into widgets that way i dont have to scroll thru my app drawer every time. My bf was telling that if it is an app that i made a widget then i cant transfer it to sd. He says that the app ends up failing or having issues. I transferred my titanium a little while ago and have not had any issues. So im wondering if what he told me is true or that i can transfer to sd without encountering issues down the road??
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I just got a new sd card with more memory space(had 2g now 16g). Now that i have the room i would like to transfer all my apps to sd. The thing is a lot of the apps i have ive made into widgets that way i dont have to scroll thru my app drawer every time. My bf was telling that if it is an app that i made a widget then i cant transfer it to sd. He says that the app ends up failing or having issues. I transferred my titanium a little while ago and have not had any issues. So im wondering if what he told me is true or that i can transfer to sd without encountering issues down the road??
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As long as your not using built Widgets but an app shortcut (which is what it sounds like your doing) you maybe OK. But yes apps stored on SD cards with Widgets do get messes up.
If you need the widgets you'll need to leave on the phone memory. Most of these apps state this in their documentation.
Sometimes apps requires you to download a widget if you plan on moving the app to the sd card.
Hello Folks! I've been lurking these forums for a few months now, but now it's time to join up! You guys are awesome.
I've got a question relating to the CM10 A2 ROM. Install went smoothly from a fresh SBF/Root/Flash. I got all my applications installed and moved them all to the phone. I have a problem that occurs when connecting the phone to my computer via USB. If I leave it in charge mode, no problem. Upon clicking the option to allow USB Mass Storage, I get quite a few apps that FC. The list is as follows:
sManager
AutomateIt Pro
App Protector Pro
ROM Toolbox Pro
TiBu
I get popup notifications that the apps' processes have stopped and upon going to the app drawer, the icons have been replaced with the Android Robot. The problem persists after disabling mass storage and the apps FC on attempting to launch them. The only thing to fix them seems to be rebooting. I know each of these apps have permission req's that read/write the SD card, is that what is causing the problem? Any way to fix? Thanks a bunch!
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Hello Folks! I've been lurking these forums for a few months now, but now it's time to join up! You guys are awesome.
I've got a question relating to the CM10 A2 ROM. Install went smoothly from a fresh SBF/Root/Flash. I got all my applications installed and moved them all to the phone. I have a problem that occurs when connecting the phone to my computer via USB. If I leave it in charge mode, no problem. Upon clicking the option to allow USB Mass Storage, I get quite a few apps that FC. The list is as follows:
sManager
AutomateIt Pro
App Protector Pro
ROM Toolbox Pro
TiBu
I get popup notifications that the apps' processes have stopped and upon going to the app drawer, the icons have been replaced with the Android Robot. The problem persists after disabling mass storage and the apps FC on attempting to launch them. The only thing to fix them seems to be rebooting. I know each of these apps have permission req's that read/write the SD card, is that what is causing the problem? Any way to fix? Thanks a bunch!
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Maybe because the apps are installed on your SD card and when you turn on USB storage, it cant display on your phone anymore. Are they installed on your SD card?
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Maybe because the apps are installed on your SD card and when you turn on USB storage, it cant display on your phone anymore. Are they installed on your SD card?
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That was the first thing I checked and unfortunately they aren't installed on the SD. I moved all my apps to the phone.
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That was the first thing I checked and unfortunately they aren't installed on the SD. I moved all my apps to the phone.
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I cant think of any other reason why they would stop working in USB mode. Maybe there are certain things they use that are on the SD Card and not necessarily the app itself. It does warn you that some apps will not work when you select USB mode.
IMHO I think it has something to do with the new SD card directory. I've used almost all the ROMs for the x2 including the cm7 and cm9. This seems to only occur with cm10.
Edit: I noticed some of these apps have folders located on the internal SD. I doubt that has changed across ROM's, any idea why it would change with this one?
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Alright. So it appears that the problem is caused by a new way the play store distributes paid apps to JB. From reading around in various sites, these apps are sent to the "app-asec" folder as .asec files instead of .apk. When connecting to USB, CM10 seems to go through some internal trouble (i.e. lots of screen flickering/redrawing and sometimes it seems to soft reboot). My theory is that how the play store is installing is causing the issues app developers are seeing. The app is attempting to start before the app-asec folder is mounted, causing FC's.
Edit: Other users have reported a workaround that if you restore the apps with TiBu or something similar it places the actual .apk file in the correct directory. The issue only seems to affect paid apps installed by the play store.
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Sorry to keep posting on my own thread, but I've found a workaround. This also seems to have fixed the launcher redraws and screen flickering I mentioned above.
Navigate to the /data/app-sec folder
Make note of all the apps installed there as .asec files.
Using your backup program of choice (I used TiBu for the majority and ROM Toolbox so I could backup TiBu), backup all the apps you found.
Uninstall the previously mentioned apps.
Restore using the same backup program(s).
Go back to the /data/app-sec folder and verify that all the files are gone.
Go to /data/app folder and you should see the .apk's from the restored apps.
Hope this helps someone else!
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Good to see you figured it out and also, good find. I noticed plugging in my device as USB and having it "soft reboot". Lately I haven't had the issue happen again. Your theory makes sense now since there is one app in that location and it is a theme I was using but lately, have not been. Ill move it as you suggested.
I currently have a S4 but i still also have the 3vo.
I'm going to use my 3vo as a media player but i don't need any apps such as messaging since it has no service.
What files would i need to delete in order create a media rom without getting force closes and such?
Why do you want to remove these apps? If you have no service, they wont hurt you with their few MB of storage they need.
I have a camera app that will not let me save photos to the microSD card. I guess making it a system app might work. Can any of you help me out?