Does the thunderbolt have any gsm bands? I know it has a sim card slot, so if i travel abroad can i put a different sim inside of it? And does it have any US bands? Thanks.
bnick45 said:
Does the thunderbolt have any gsm bands? I know it has a sim card slot, so if i travel abroad can i put a different sim inside of it? And does it have any US bands? Thanks.
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Here are the radio bands from the phone's specs:
Network technology:
CDMA: 800, 1900
LTE: 700
So, yes, and no. LTE is a GSM-type service, but as you can see the frequency bands are not the same as the current round of 3G phones out there (800, 1700, 1900, 2100).
Someday, when AT&T deploys their LTE network, if they're on 700 (no idea about that) you might get away with using their sim for data services (if the phone isn't sim locked or can be sim unlocked), but you're not going to get voice over AT&T. You could over Sprint, I believe, though.
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Hey guys, I just got my new HTC hero. I'm with AT&T now and having the unlimited 3G data plan. I setup the configurations of APN settings as following:
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
But I only see an "E" at the connection status which I believe indicates EDGE. Can anyone tell me how to get 3G work on this device?
Thanks a lot!!!
I didn't realise the hero was out in the us yet but if it is i don't know why and if it isn't out its because i don't think it surpports american 3g networks i think you can only get 2g.
Yes I got this phone out of the US.
So you mean there's no way at all to get 3G to work on this phone with AT&T or any other carriers?
In its current state the phone does not support the AT&T bands for 3g.
There are rumors of an AT&T version coming October 11th, that would support 3g.
European/Asian version of this phone does not work with US 3G. AT&T's 3G network requires the bands 850 & 1900, while T-mobile's 3G requires the bands 1700 & 2100. European/Asian version supports only the bands 900 & 2100.
Does this mean T-mobile 3G may work on this phone?
T-Mob's 3g should connect to this phone, if you could find a signal, haha.
http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2009/07/03/htc-hero-approved-by-the-fcc-with-att-3g/
Neither T-Mobile US nor AT&T will work with this phone for 3G. The only version of this phone that exists at the moment supports ONLY European 3G. There are rumors of the device coming to AT&T, but nothing confirmed. IF that happens, the new phones would work, but that wouldn't change the fact that the device you have will still only function on Edge.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's true.
It's actually Sprint pal. Also, there was a picture for Tmobile also (this appears to be a rumor).
T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
RBFG said:
T-Mob uses the 2100 spectrum so i dont see why it wouldnt work.
And a CDMA and a GSM (With AT&T 3g bands) has gone through the FCC recently.
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No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
T-mobile US 3G uses 1700 for down and 2100 mhz for uplink. So 2100 alone isn't enough as you need both directions to connect.
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No, it won't work with t-mobile USA's 3G network.
Yes, T-mobile in Europe use the 2100 band for 3G so the Hero works. But T-mobile USA use 1700 and 2100 bands for 3G, and you need a phone that support BOTH bands to connect to its 3G network.
Unfortunately, unless T-mobile USA decides to carry this phone (and they have already said that they wouldn't), there won't be a version of Hero that support its 3G network. This is because T-mobile USA is the only carrier in the world that uses the 1700 band for 3G. You may ask why T-mobile uses different bands for 3G in different countries. This is more of a regulatory decision than a business decision. If you are interested, go read about those FCC spectrum auctions.
All in all, European/Asian version of the Hero won't work with any 3G network in the US. The product id of the European/Asian Hero is HERO100, it supports only the bands 900 and 2100 for 3G. There will be a North American version with product id HERO130 that supports the bands 850 and 1900. It will be released either on AT&T or on the Canadian carrier Rogers, because only these two carriers use these bands for 3G. Currently it is not know whether it will be on AT&T or Rogers, but that latter is more likely IMO. Finally, there will be a CDMA version, with product id HERO200, for Sprint. This is more or less confirmed to be coming in October.
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Thanks! That was very informative, although it totally crushed my dreams of owning a Hero while remaining on the T-Mobile network.
Hello,
I currently have US Cellular and i have great service in my area. My girlfriend wants to switch to US Cellular also due to the fact that in our area T-Mobile sucks. She currently has a Vibrant and wants to switch but doesnt want to pay big bucks for another android phone similar to the vibrant. So i suggested unlocking the phone and putting the service on the vibrant. The only problem is i dont think US Cellular uses sim cards. I currently have a samsung acclaim and it does not haev a sim card. So what i was wondering is if i am able to switch my services over to her phone even tho i dont have a sim card?
Thanks in advance,
Jacob
T-Mobile = GSM (digital Antenna digital frequency)
US Cellular = CDMA (Analog frequency with simulated digital properties) TDMA (straight up old school analog, Think... Radio)
CDMA networks keep all your information sever side, whereis a GSM network uses your SIM Card to Identify you.
You should be able to get a phone from any of the following Carriers (as long as it is not imei Locked (reported as stolen)
Sprint CDMA/PCS 1900, 2100
Verizon CDMA 800, 1900, 2100
Alltel CDMA 800, 1900
Regional Carriers Technology Bands
Metro PCS CDMA 800, 1900
U.S. Cellular CDMA 800, 1900
Edge Wireless CDMA 800, 1900
more information
U.S. Cellular is a large multi-regional carrier offering service in 155 markets - in 26 states - across the country. The company primarily uses CDMA technology, and also provides legacy TDMA service. Most coverage is cellular-band (800 MHz), with some PCS (1900 MHz) areas in the Central region.
(so what this means is check your local area for Coverage and make sure the CDMA phone you purchase supports BOTH 800/1900 Frequencies.
Hello everyone.
- Anyone knows what GSM and UMTS frequencies are supported when Photon is used abroad in GSM networks? Will I get an EDGE speed or at least 3G speed?
I have 2 different SIM card from differenet countries with their own data plans. I just want to make sure this phone can accept and work with this SIM cards.
Thanks.
It'd on the box, our you can google it
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I found 2 sources and they reports as follows:
First:
Network technology:
CDMA:800, 1900
GSM:850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:850, 1900, 2100
Data:EDGE (UMTS:Yes HSPA:Yes WiMAX-4G:Yes)
Second:
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
To me data part is still confusing. 2nd source does not mention UMTS or HSPA. What I conclude is that this phone with a SIM card under GSM network can only support EDGE speed. Is it true?
Hello All,
I am on tmobile and had samsung galaxy s before i got SGS2 from at&t (my wife upgraded). i unlocked/rooted the phone after reading through the posts and it worked like a charm!
My concern right now is that I am always on edge data network with tmobile. can anyone help me on this. Tethering is also not much of use when i am on the slowest connection. Please help.
Can't do much about it since AT&T version doesn't support the 3g/4g band for T-mobile.
At&t gs2 doesn't support t-mobile frequency for 3 g.
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I thought this phone has all the bands to support all networks.
parags1982 said:
I thought this phone has all the bands to support all networks.
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No only AT&T.
My guess is that international version supports all the bands not the carrier branded sgII
^Even international version doesn't support T-Mobile 3g/4g (HSPA+) network.. Not many phones support their network. Or maybe it will.. but not everywhere
AT&T SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
T-Mobile SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
International SGSII
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
I am following another post that lets says HOW TO: "Enable 850Mhz 3G Network Frequency on your Samsung i9000 Galaxy S''. will update how it goes... fingers crossed..
parags1982 said:
I am following another post that lets says HOW TO: "Enable 850Mhz 3G Network Frequency on your Samsung i9000 Galaxy S''. will update how it goes... fingers crossed..
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No luck. i read somewhere that i may need to install another modem?
Is there anyone out there with the same issue as mine?
any experts out there?
parags1982 said:
I thought this phone has all the bands to support all networks.
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The AWS (1700) bands are supported only by a handful of carriers. It doesn't exist at all in Europe and Asia. There's little reason for manufacturers to include it on their global phones as so few people use it. It's the reason the T-Mobile SGS2 has a Qualcomm chip instead of Exynos like the rest of them. After the merger, it won't even exist in the U.S. any longer as AT&T plans on using it (1700) for LTE. If you want versatility and the ability to use unlocked phones, change to AT&T.
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I am following another post that lets says HOW TO: "Enable 850Mhz 3G Network Frequency on your Samsung i9000 Galaxy S''. will update how it goes... fingers crossed..
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In order to get T-mo 3G, a phone must support HSPA on 1700MHz AWS band, not 850MHz. As such, only phones from T-Mo or some Candadian carrier support 1700 band. Rest of the world use 900/2100 for 3G and AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G/4G.
You are never going to get 3G on T-Mo on any phones from AT&T. Period. Give it up.
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In order to get T-mo 3G, a phone must support HSPA on 1700MHz AWS band, not 850MHz. As such, only phones from T-Mo or some Candadian carrier support 1700 band. Rest of the world use 900/2100 for 3G and AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G/4G.
You are never going to get 3G on T-Mo on any phones from AT&T. Period. Give it up.
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thanks. i give up
TMobile uses 1700 up, 2100 down. If the handset doesn't support 1700, you are out of luck.
Correct. Many phones support the 2100 MHz International band.
T-Mobile's network is weird though, and uses both 1700 and 2100 MHz at the same time.
My guess is that UMTS1700 support and not 42 Mbps HSPA+ is why the T-Mobile variant of the GS2 is such an oddball phone.
NO AT&T phone and only a small handful of international phones support T-Mobile's 1700 MHz band.
Similarly, only one or two T-Mobile phones (The Vibrant being one of them) support any of AT&T's 3G bands, but none support all of AT&T's 3G bands to my knowledge.
The interesting thing about this entire thing is that if you go into the modem band selection it lists 5 different wcdma bands including the aws 1700. I enabled those bands and tried using a tmo sim but alas it still only worked on edge. It may have just been there cosmetically rather then actually supporting aws bands. use dialer code *#2263# to access the band selection menu. Maybe there is a way to get it to work.
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The interesting thing about this entire thing is that if you go into the modem band selection it lists 5 different wcdma bands including the aws 1700. I enabled those bands and tried using a tmo sim but alas it still only worked on edge. It may have just been there cosmetically rather then actually supporting aws bands. use dialer code *#2263# to access the band selection menu. Maybe there is a way to get it to work.
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I agree with you and have tried exactly what you did (along with other bands) but still not working.
pb1866 said:
The interesting thing about this entire thing is that if you go into the modem band selection it lists 5 different wcdma bands including the aws 1700. I enabled those bands and tried using a tmo sim but alas it still only worked on edge. It may have just been there cosmetically rather then actually supporting aws bands. use dialer code *#2263# to access the band selection menu. Maybe there is a way to get it to work.
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Typically, the s/w supports multiple versions of h/w. Just because an option's in the menu doesn't mean the h/w's available to support it. The same thing happened with the T-Mobile G2X. It was supposed to be quad-band, the option was in the ROM, but the radio wasn't there to support all the bands.
OK so I just bought an AT&T One X+... it works fine on my network. Though I travel back to my country every now and then and in my country they use 900/1800 MHz GSM band (and doesn't have LTE). 3G band is 2100MHz and is compatible though. however I read somewhere that the One X+ only supports 850/1900 MHz band + LTE
So the question it if i UNLOCK it - will I be able to bring it back to my country and use it? Will the band difference be a problem or will the unlock process open up additional bands as well?
If I won't be able to use 2G can I make calls and text on 3G network only?
Thanks!
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wrong forum, please delete
The One X+ does indeed support 2G @ 850/900/1800/1900 MHz and 3G @ 850/1900/2100 MHz.
Im in the same bought as you, and I wouldn't have bought it otherwise Got mine unlocked as well from Cellunlocker.net in less than an hour. Cutting up the full-size T-Mobile SIM was the hardest part.