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Does anyone know if a TV out cacle is available or even possible on the micro usb connection of the Slide? I am about to go on vacation and need to keep the kids entertained without dragging a DVD player along with us. I am curious if HTC gas the same setup as far as pin count on this one as thet did on their micro plug. Any input on the subject is apreciated.
here's the best I can find. I didn't spend a huge amount of time so I may have missed one that may work better but here is a micro usb to mini usb adapter and then I know there are TONS of mini usb tv out cables out there so this setup may work for you. I did not see any micro usb tv out cables anywhere which I found odd. anyway, here's the link to the adapter I found, you may find something even cheaper:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...7&cs=04&c=us&l=en&dgc=SS&cid=27722&lid=628335
Thanks for the info. The only thing I worry about is HTC mini usb jacks have a lot more pins than standard mini usb jacks. It was a great idea in its day, though I am sure there are better ones now. Any adapter would have to be the HTC. Style output, and I don't even know if there is an "HTC" micro usb output.
As far as I understand, the extra pins on the HTC mini-usb plug were:
1x Ground
2x R/L sound Out
1x Mic In
These just carried an analog signal.
Since HTC is now defaulting a 3.5mm jack on almost all phones, these type mini-usb plugs are becoming obsolete.
The regular Data +/- and +/-5v pins never changed, which is what carried the digital signal for video/sound out.
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So there is hope with the adapter? Hopefully the phone is capable.
donepate said:
Does anyone know if a TV out cacle is available or even possible on the micro usb connection of the Slide? I am about to go on vacation and need to keep the kids entertained without dragging a DVD player along with us. I am curious if HTC gas the same setup as far as pin count on this one as thet did on their micro plug. Any input on the subject is apreciated.
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Try looking for the cable designed for the Droid Incredible, I believe I saw that for one of my customers at T-Mobile by looking on Google.
yeah the droid incredible cable will work
Thanks, I will have to order one. Hope I get it in time. Much apreciated.
The question that hasn't been answered yet is "is the slide capable of tv-out?"
Good question. I haven't seen this feature advertised at all for this phone, including on T-Mobile internal documentation, so I very much doubt that it is capable of TV out. That would be awesome to find out it is, though!
I'm sure with a bit of tinkering, it would, but with the resolution and low GPU speeds, would it be worth it?
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ive read that the slide has a basic usb connector 4 or 5 pin
where as other phones .. incredible have 7 or 8 pin connectors.
htc's spec pages tell everything you want to know
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So there is hope with the adapter? Hopefully the phone is capable.
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Kinda where I was headed with all this.
So, any luck in getting video out? Thanks
This phone don't have tv out.
Anyone figured a way to use the gtab with a projector without the dock? trying to have as few gizmos as possible to take on the road with me.
If you want HDMI output without the dock you would need a custom cable from the g-tablet's docking port to HDMI and as far as I know, no such cable exists at this time. You can search these forums for "HDMI cable" and find a couple of threads on the subject.
I understand the desire to travel light but the dock really isn't that big or heavy.
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If you want HDMI output without the dock you would need a custom cable from the g-tablet's docking port to HDMI and as far as I know, no such cable exists at this time. You can search these forums for "HDMI cable" and find a couple of threads on the subject.
I understand the desire to travel light but the dock really isn't that big or heavy.
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Well my dock isn't exactly light but it is required to provide power to the HDMi output. I did purchase a HDMI to DVI converter for my projector and it works like a champ projecting from the gtab to the projector. Now if my mouse would work I could (almost) ditch the laptop. I have also found that most of the PowerPoint viewers don't 100% convert my PowerPoint slide decks to view on the gtab. It is typically some pictures on the slides that don't convert. I have roughly 16 slides out of 125 slides that don't project properly (can't remember off hand which program does the best job, but that is my best effort). I haven't had time to convert all of those slides although I had to teach one of my training classes today so had to lug the laptop along. Ideally a mouse or wireless remote to advance the slides would create a smaller travel kit. Good luck with the presentation. The dock while heavy, weighs as much as my Dell power brick so that at least is a trade off.
Hey guys...
this is a big question for me also...but I'm wondering if anyone has figured out a way to do video OUT of the USB port for powerpoint? Since most PPT is just static there shouldn't be a huge issue with BW (Even so, I've got a USB to VGA adapter for my laptop, so USB definently has the BW to pull it off. )
wonder if there's a simple USB to VGA adapter out there somewhere. I'll do some digging....
it's not that the docking station is heavy or anything, it's just bulky in a briefcase. I travel international all the time and want to leave as much crap at home.
Oh, and if anyone comes up with a good ppt editor / viewer lemme know.
BN
bnovak said:
Hey guys...
this is a big question for me also...but I'm wondering if anyone has figured out a way to do video OUT of the USB port for powerpoint? Since most PPT is just static there shouldn't be a huge issue with BW (Even so, I've got a USB to VGA adapter for my laptop, so USB definently has the BW to pull it off. )
wonder if there's a simple USB to VGA adapter out there somewhere. I'll do some digging....
it's not that the docking station is heavy or anything, it's just bulky in a briefcase. I travel international all the time and want to leave as much crap at home.
Oh, and if anyone comes up with a good ppt editor / viewer lemme know.
BN
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Funny you asked about a USB to VGA adapter. I'm not sure if its video out or in??? The description says you can use it for dual monitor expandability which leads me to believe its a video in cable. Anyways, someone posted a couple days ago at another forum that he found that adapter. Its expensive though. Here's the link he posted...
http://www.fommy.com/view-full-page...nic+gTablet&tabletcategory=Cables&skuno=90129
That one is pricey
There are lots of those USB to VGA adapter gizmos.. but I have hesitated to buy one because I wasn't sure there was the right software available.. presumably you need at least a generic USB screen driver..
Anyone tried one of these with the gtab?
http://www.google.com/search?q=usb+...06&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=a40f3cd63ecc4954
Your best bet would be to use a DisplayLink based adapter. These allow dvi or vga based displays to be connected via usb. They have also released linux drivers. It even seems as though they were able ouput video to such displays through an app called "Send to Framebuffer". I actually have a displaylink dock, so maybe I'll play around with it after class today. Check out the following link and scroll down to "External Displays".
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
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Funny you asked about a USB to VGA adapter. I'm not sure if its video out or in??? The description says you can use it for dual monitor expandability which leads me to believe its a video in cable. Anyways, someone posted a couple days ago at another forum that he found that adapter. Its expensive though. Here's the link he posted...
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I actually have some emails into Fommy and the mfg. of the device. Although on the Fommy site it list the G-Tablet and NI Adam, I have yet to find any information from the mfg that this device will work with Android.
It is a video out device.
Since the lapdock has an HDMI in (for the atrix to output to the screen), would it be possible to hook up and output an xbox 360 with the correct adapters (like this)? Or is the HDMI plug just for use with the atrix?
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F**king brilliant man I was at the att store the other day and when I yanked the atrix out of the lapdock(one of which I have ordered) it said NO HDMI INPUT. I bet it will work with a micro HDMI adapter....ordering from China asap, so expect it to be a month :S
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F**king brilliant man I was at the att store the other day and when I yanked the atrix out of the lapdock(one of which I have ordered) it said NO HDMI INPUT. I bet it will work with a micro HDMI adapter....ordering from China asap, so expect it to be a month :S
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If it warned against hdmi input, it actually might not work . It might be a sort of proprietary jack in order to trigger the webtop on the phone. Even though we can just enable webtop with an hmdi cable, it might not work the other way around. But it's worth a shot seeing as the adapters shouldn't be too much money.
it didnt seem that way, if I can dummy load the usb connector possibly by using my atrix, then the hdmi is free for the taking, and when i pulled it out of the dock it seemed like, when you unplug a computer monitor, when it says nothing connected, it seemed like that, I bet this will work
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Since the lapdock has an HDMI in (for the atrix to output to the screen), would it be possible to hook up and output an xbox 360 with the correct adapters (like this)? Or is the HDMI plug just for use with the atrix?
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That adapter wont work, it would need to be a FEMALE micro and not a male micro which is what you linked to
http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?keyword=111458226
What about this: http://goo.gl/yWHar to this: http://goo.gl/R716a ?
DOH! Just noticed the MALE to FEMALE mini is on backorder.
Dr.Jeckyl said:
What about this: http://goo.gl/yWHar to this: http://goo.gl/R716a ?
DOH! Just noticed the MALE to FEMALE mini is on backorder.
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still not right. The dock has a male mini connector, to make it work you need a full sized male to mini female cable. They don't make those, so you'll have to make one yourself.
Or you could use the full size male to mini male adapter along with a female mini to female mini coupler or "extender".
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still not right. The dock has a male mini connector, to make it work you need a full sized male to mini female cable. They don't make those, so you'll have to make one yourself.
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I realize that. The first link is a mini FEMALE to standard MALE. ;-)
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I realize that. The first link is a mini FEMALE to standard MALE. ;-)
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it is micro hdmi not mini hdmi
They exist
Last week I was working with my exporter and I noticed a boatload of new micro hdmi products, one of them was male and female adaptors, male to male, female to female etc, I guarantee it you guys they exist, and they also exist for micro usb, with which we can dummy load the shell into powering on with the phone if necessary. This will take maybe $6 worth of chinese parts, a month for shipping, and patience for the adaptors to arrive for an investigation. I'll try to order by next tuesday
O, dang it. I didn't realize i found the wrong adapter. I forgot that we would need a female adapter.
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Last week I was working with my exporter and I noticed a boatload of new micro hdmi products, one of them was male and female adaptors, male to male, female to female etc, I guarantee it you guys they exist, and they also exist for micro usb, with which we can dummy load the shell into powering on with the phone if necessary. This will take maybe $6 worth of chinese parts, a month for shipping, and patience for the adaptors to arrive for an investigation. I'll try to order by next tuesday
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I look forward to hearing more about this.
If it would indeed be possible to use the laptop dock for such a purpose then I might be able to justify picking one up.
...it would then make a nifty portable DVD player too...
just get an inverter to run a blu-ray player in your car, make a $50 cable...
You guys have wayyyyyy too much time on your hands
(from a guy who doesn't own a gaming console )
However, as a proof-of-concept, it would show what the lapdock is capable of. Get a ATSC tuner with HDMI out and you would have a nice portable HDTV.
I am actually wondering if there is a way to put a touchscreen in place of the simple LCD (like Asus is doing with their prototype)
Pretty sure that the screen is going to shut off without the phone activating the display through the USB connection as well.
Good luck though, hope I'm wrong!
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Pretty sure that the screen is going to shut off without the phone activating the display through the USB connection as well.
Good luck though, hope I'm wrong!
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Which is why I will dummy load the microusb terminal in the dock with my atrix. I found the female micro hdmi part we are looking for! I'll put up more info ASAP, I'm a bit swamped ATM
It might attempt to sense an atrix via the microusb port. Perhaps a keep alive signal. But it will use the same proprietary protocols that all the docks use to trigger the correct mode.
Sent from my Motorola Atrix 4G on the network with the most backhaul, whatever that is. This post might have errors as I hate touchscreen keyboards.
Nice to see I'm not the only one that saw the no input message and thought to myself, HEY I CAN PLUG SOMETHING ELSE IN! Anyways, anybody get this working yet? I found an adapter on Ebay that should do the trick... But I guess I'm not allowed to post that yet... Take a look though, they do exist if you do not mind waiting for it to ship from China.
I think this just might work!! Sometimes when I plug in the phone I get a message on the screen "no hdmi input". And if this does in fact work, guess what. The atrix 2 will work with our "outdated" lapdocks haha
I have a Droid X2 that I really, really need to be able to hook up to the projector in my classroom. The projector I have does not have HDMI ports on it. It has 2 VGA ports, s-video, and composite video. What do I need to do in order to display my Droid X2 on the projector? Thanks.
Here ya go.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hdmi+to+vga+adaptor
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hdmi+to+vga+adaptor
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There is a lot of conflicting information on google and other forums. I have already looked into it but have questions. Some say a straight cable adapter should work. Others mention the need for an adapter box. Some say that some adapter boxes only work with certain phones/devices.
Basically, I have already googled it so despite your insinuation, I have done some homework. I probably should have mentioned that in the OP...sorry.
Has anyone actually done this or something similar with their X2? Thanks.
curious about this myself, I had just bought a projector less than a year ago, and got talked into a cheaper model without HDMI inputs, which I didn't think anything of at the time...
Not that simple
HDMI and VGA use wildly different protocols to send a signal. VGA is analog, HDMI is digital. You can't just use an adapter to use one with the other. You would need a device that can decode, process, and convert the signal, which is going cost more. As in, starting at $30 bucks for a cheap chinese converter box.
So it is possible through the converter box? Anybody have any experience with any of them?
Hi Prime - did you ever get resolution? I've an older projector too.
this works:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10114&cs_id=1011410&p_id=8126&seq=1&format=2
i normally use it for a different purpose, but i tried it with my X2 and it did work. pretty cheap for what it does too.
hey.
i have sailed the internetz looking for answers for this. but i thought ild ask what everyone else thought.
would atrix lapdock work with sg2? (with mods off course) like changing the connectors about. and using a mhl to hdmi cable?
i was looking at the connectors and it is a micro hdmi and a micro usb if im not wrong..
whats everyones thoughts to this???
Timoxa said:
hey.
i have sailed the internetz looking for answers for this. but i thought ild ask what everyone else thought.
would atrix lapdock work with sg2? (with mods off course) like changing the connectors about. and using a mhl to hdmi cable?
i was looking at the connectors and it is a micro hdmi and a micro usb if im not wrong..
whats everyones thoughts to this???
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My thoughts; not sure if serious...
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My thoughts; not sure if serious...
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what do you mean by that? its a valid question.
i know for sure you can connect your sg2 to the hdmi to display. but its the trackpad and keyboard im wondering about the most?
Timoxa said:
what do you mean by that? its a valid question.
i know for sure you can connect your sg2 to the hdmi to display. but its the trackpad and keyboard im wondering about the most?
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NO.
Atrix has two different output ports. Micro USB for charging and data transfer, and micro-HDMI for TV-out. The laptop dock specific (I stress specific) for the Atrix uses BOTH of these ports in conjuction.
Galaxy S2 has ONE output port, a micro USB port that doubles for charging/data transfer, and connection to the optional MHL adapter accessory.
In NO WAY would you be able to MacGyver the Galaxy S2 to use the Atrix laptop dock.
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NO.
Atrix has two different output ports. Micro USB for charging and data transfer, and micro-HDMI for TV-out. The laptop dock specific (I stress specific) for the Atrix uses BOTH of these ports in conjuction.
Galaxy S2 has ONE output port, a micro USB port that doubles for charging/data transfer, and connection to the optional MHL adapter accessory.
In NO WAY would you be able to MacGyver the Galaxy S2 to use the Atrix laptop dock.
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alright. well thanks for the answer. guess il have to look for another idea. possibly using portable hd screen and a bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
cheers anyway.
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NO.
Atrix has two different output ports. Micro USB for charging and data transfer, and micro-HDMI for TV-out. The laptop dock specific (I stress specific) for the Atrix uses BOTH of these ports in conjuction.
Galaxy S2 has ONE output port, a micro USB port that doubles for charging/data transfer, and connection to the optional MHL adapter accessory.
In NO WAY would you be able to MacGyver the Galaxy S2 to use the Atrix laptop dock.
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alright. well thanks for the answer. guess il have to look for another idea. possibly using portable hd screen and a bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
cheers anyway.
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You know... it just might work. The atrix lapdock does feed 5v power up the usb port which you could adapt from micro usb to whichever varient you need on your MHL cable. This would provide the power necessary to drive the hdmi circuitry that you had feeding into the micro hdmi input of the lapdock. Obviously you wouldnt have a true 'dock' but it sounds like you understand that. As long as your phone detected the mouse and keyboard as input devices it should work. Not sure how that operates with an MHL cable. It might require USB OTG, and im not sure if that is available over the USB connectivity provided by MHL. You could try with a standard usb keyboard If that works, then the lapdocks should too.
I know for certain that you can use the lapdock as the screen by just connecting the video out of the MHL adapter to the lapdock, and a usb power only cable (for the MHL adapter) to the lapdocks normal USB charge ports.
There is a thread called Lapdock HDMI that has more details!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
As for the person saying it is or was impossible... you so sure now?
phire420 said:
You know... it just might work. The atrix lapdock does feed 5v power up the usb port which you could adapt from micro usb to whichever varient you need on your MHL cable. This would provide the power necessary to drive the hdmi circuitry that you had feeding into the micro hdmi input of the lapdock. Obviously you wouldnt have a true 'dock' but it sounds like you understand that. As long as your phone detected the mouse and keyboard as input devices it should work. Not sure how that operates with an MHL cable. It might require USB OTG, and im not sure if that is available over the USB connectivity provided by MHL. You could try with a standard usb keyboard If that works, then the lapdocks should too.
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ive seen some mhl cables online which have a micro usb port on the side also. so you can plug in the micro hdmi and usb at the same time .. not as the other guy said. anyway im going to order the dock to see what mods i can get done. if anything promising il repost.
phire420 said:
You know... it just might work. The atrix lapdock does feed 5v power up the usb port which you could adapt from micro usb to whichever varient you need on your MHL cable. This would provide the power necessary to drive the hdmi circuitry that you had feeding into the micro hdmi input of the lapdock. Obviously you wouldnt have a true 'dock' but it sounds like you understand that. As long as your phone detected the mouse and keyboard as input devices it should work. Not sure how that operates with an MHL cable. It might require USB OTG, and im not sure if that is available over the USB connectivity provided by MHL. You could try with a standard usb keyboard If that works, then the lapdocks should too.
I know for certain that you can use the lapdock as the screen by just connecting the video out of the MHL adapter to the lapdock, and a usb power only cable (for the MHL adapter) to the lapdocks normal USB charge ports.
There is a thread called Lapdock HDMI that has more details!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
As for the person saying it is or was impossible... you so sure now?
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That thread is from the Atrix forum. What bearing does that have on the argument on getting this working on an S2??
Have you even looked at the connections involved here?
The Atrix's micro USB and micro HDMI port are side by side, and the dock plugs into both of them.
The MHL cable plugs into the ONLY port on the S2.
So I'm certainly not an expert on the inner workings of MHL, USB, and HDMI, but from what I can gather, you would have to splice an MHL cable to separate out the USB leads from the HDMI leads, then try to run the HDMI leads into a micro HDMI female port, and run the USB leads to a female micro USB port. I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation. I'm fairly certain the phone detects what is plugged in and decides how to use the port, which shoots this down idea down altogether... unless more hacking is involved into the OS. Which is way above my head, and I'm not fool enough to try.
See this thread, which is admittedly for the Galaxy Nexus, but is WAY more relevant than the Atrix thread you linked, as the GNex is also manufactured by Samsung, and also uses MHL technology.
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ive seen some mhl cables online which have a micro usb port on the side also. so you can plug in the micro hdmi and usb at the same time .. not as the other guy said. anyway im going to order the dock to see what mods i can get done. if anything promising il repost.
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No - the micro USB port on the side of the MHL adapter is for power. If the HDMI port you plug into is NOT MHL compliant (and not many are, yet), you need to plug an AC adapter in to power the phone while HDMI is in use.
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That thread is from the Atrix forum. What bearing does that have on the argument on getting this working on an S2??
Have you even looked at the connections involved here?
The Atrix's micro USB and micro HDMI port are side by side, and the dock plugs into both of them.
The MHL cable plugs into the ONLY port on the S2.
So I'm certainly not an expert on the inner workings of MHL, USB, and HDMI, but from what I can gather, you would have to splice an MHL cable to separate out the USB leads from the HDMI leads, then try to run the HDMI leads into a micro HDMI female port, and run the USB leads to a female micro USB port. I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation. I'm fairly certain the phone detects what is plugged in and decides how to use the port, which shoots this down idea down altogether... unless more hacking is involved into the OS. Which is way above my head, and I'm not fool enough to try.
See this thread, which is admittedly for the Galaxy Nexus, but is WAY more relevant than the Atrix thread you linked, as the GNex is also manufactured by Samsung, and also uses MHL technology.
No - the micro USB port on the side of the MHL adapter is for power. If the HDMI port you plug into is NOT MHL compliant (and not many are, yet), you need to plug an AC adapter in to power the phone while HDMI is in use.
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well. theres allot of different mhl cables. even if none of them support it. splitting the usb data from the other cables on the mhl should be easy. but like i said il order one to play with. im pretty sure even if i cant do anything with the sg2 il find another use for it. would be great for a project. but many thanks for your input. sure has shed some light in the dark.
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well. theres allot of different mhl cables. even if none of them support it. splitting the usb data from the other cables on the mhl should be easy. but like i said il order one to play with. im pretty sure even if i cant do anything with the sg2 il find another use for it. would be great for a project. but many thanks for your input. sure has shed some light in the dark.
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Sure, there are a lot of MHL cables, but they are all essentially third party versions of the OEM Samsung MHL cable. (or whatever phone manufacturer you have that uses MHL - HTC, whatever)
I have high doubts ANY MHL cable will support it, since as I said, the phone will detect what type of connection is attached to decide how to send/receive signals from the port - if it sees the MHL adapter, it will do charge/HDMI; if it sees a regular USB cable, it will do charge/data transfer/OTG; if it sees an AC adapter, it does strictly charging. Notice how it can tell the difference when you have it plugged into your computer as opposed to when you have it plugged into the wall?
But if you want to go for it, good luck.
EDIT: yet another piece of info shooting this idea down.
Here's the video that he talks about in that post. Info specific on why this DOESN'T work is at about 7:25.
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Sure, there are a lot of MHL cables, but they are all essentially third party versions of the OEM Samsung MHL cable. (or whatever phone manufacturer you have that uses MHL - HTC, whatever)
I have high doubts ANY MHL cable will support it, since as I said, the phone will detect what type of connection is attached to decide how to send/receive signals from the port - if it sees the MHL adapter, it will do charge/HDMI; if it sees a regular USB cable, it will do charge/data transfer/OTG; if it sees an AC adapter, it does strictly charging. Notice how it can tell the difference when you have it plugged into your computer as opposed to when you have it plugged into the wall?
But if you want to go for it, good luck.
EDIT: yet another piece of info shooting this idea down.
Here's the video that he talks about in that post.
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i pretty much thought the usb and hdmi wouldnt work from the beginning, il have to look into modding the dock to allow bluetooth. ive have just looked at the specifications of a mhl even though they can in theory support usb and hdmi at the same time. the sg2 wont. and i cant see any software mod that would allow this. il see what sort of bluetooth mods are available. maybe incorporate stuff i have done in the past. but the dock is too good to pass by.
i think we can close this thread as its been answered.
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i pretty much thought the usb and hdmi wouldnt work from the beginning, il have to look into modding the dock to allow bluetooth. ive have just looked at the specifications of a mhl even though they can in theory support usb and hdmi at the same time. the sg2 wont. and i cant see any software mod that would allow this. il see what sort of bluetooth mods are available. maybe incorporate stuff i have done in the past. but the dock is too good to pass by.
i think we can close this thread as its been answered.
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Not to nitpick, but it's MHL 1.0 that won't support it. The GS2 just uses MHL. Who knows if there's a possibility to update it to whatever MHL 2.0 is, whenever it comes out.
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That thread is from the Atrix forum. What bearing does that have on the argument on getting this working on an S2??
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Noone is 'arguing', instead I am trying to be productive and help. Forgive me opening the door to actually trying it and thinking it through instead of just saying 'THERE IS NO WAY ITS POSSIBLE, OMG ATRIX FORUM'. you do know where you are.. right?
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Have you even looked at the connections involved here? The Atrix's micro USB and micro HDMI port are side by side, and the dock plugs into both of them. The MHL cable plugs into the ONLY port on the S2.
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yes, of course. you couldn't tell by my reply?
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So I'm certainly not an expert on the inner workings of MHL, USB, and HDMI, but from what I can gather, you would have to splice an MHL cable to separate out the USB leads from the HDMI leads, then try to run the HDMI leads into a micro HDMI female port, and run the USB leads to a female micro USB port. I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation.
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Right, which is why i even posted in the first place. First you claimed to know, now you dont know, not very helpful. and yes, i think its understood there would be cables and a potential need for splicing, as outlined in the other lapdock thread.
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See this thread, which is admittedly for the Galaxy Nexus, but is WAY more relevant than the Atrix thread you linked, as the GNex is also manufactured by Samsung, and also uses MHL technology.
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actually the other thread is perfectly relevant, if you read it, you would understand the point of the thread is a howto on interfacing the lapdock with devices OTHER than the atrix, how could it be more relevant?
phire420 said:
Noone is 'arguing'
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Seriously? You're arguing that no one is arguing? By arguing?
phire420 said:
instead I am trying to be productive and help. Forgive me opening the door to actually trying it and thinking it through instead of just saying 'THERE IS NO WAY ITS POSSIBLE, OMG ATRIX FORUM'. you do know where you are.. right?
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Yes, I do. In the I9100 forums. Which is based on completely different hardware and architecture than the Motorola Atrix.
phire420 said:
ctomgee said:
Have you even looked at the connections involved here? The Atrix's micro USB and micro HDMI port are side by side, and the dock plugs into both of them. The MHL cable plugs into the ONLY port on the S2.
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yes, of course. you couldn't tell by my reply?
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Clearly not, since you apparently understand less about how MHL works than I do.
phire420 said:
ctomgee said:
So I'm certainly not an expert on the inner workings of MHL, USB, and HDMI, but from what I can gather, you would have to splice an MHL cable to separate out the USB leads from the HDMI leads, then try to run the HDMI leads into a micro HDMI female port, and run the USB leads to a female micro USB port. I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation.
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Right, which is why i even posted in the first place. First you claimed to know, now you dont know, not very helpful. and yes, i think its understood there would be cables and a potential need for splicing, as outlined in the other lapdock thread.
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Actually, I said I'm not an expert. Not that I didn't know. That's two different things. I notice you also conveniently left off the part of my quote after the part that said "I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation" which read:
ctomgee said:
I'm fairly certain the phone detects what is plugged in and decides how to use the port, which shoots this down idea down altogether... unless more hacking is involved into the OS. Which is way above my head, and I'm not fool enough to try.
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phire420 said:
actually the other thread is perfectly relevant, if you read it, you would understand the point of the thread is a howto on interfacing the lapdock with devices OTHER than the atrix, how could it be more relevant?
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Sure, relevant. But not, at the same time. Look at post 10 of that thread. It says "The lapdock keyboard and touchpad work just like a normal USB keyboard and mouse."
Now, clearly I read the thread you linked. Did YOU read anything I linked, or watch the video featuring a spokesman from the frigging MHL consortium??? How he said HDMI out and USB will NOT work at the same time on any phone that utilizes MHL, not just the Galaxy S2? And goes on to explain why?
You started this fight with:
phire420 said:
As for the person saying it is or was impossible... you so sure now?
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in post 6. Get off your frigging high-and-mighty-horse, and crawl back under your bridge.
Timoxa said:
i pretty much thought the usb and hdmi wouldnt work from the beginning
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Video will work, but as ctomgee stated and linked, usb wont work at the same time
Timoxa said:
ill have to look into modding the dock to allow bluetooth.
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good luck m8 id love to see if you can pull this off!
you can always solder in a usb-Bluetooth tx so that the keypad and keyboard will work via bluetooth and hdmi via MHL. thats the only way
rmyc said:
you can always solder in a usb-Bluetooth tx so that the keypad and keyboard will work via bluetooth and hdmi via MHL. thats the only way
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sounds like it's a possible solution, i'm trying to find a way to use the lapdock with my galaxy s3. any idea where we can get a usb-bluetooth tx? pair this setup with allshare dongle for wireless transmission to hdmi, we'll hv a total wireless solution to connect any phone to the lapdock?!