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Probably won't know for sure until after the release of the device, but whats the scuttlebutt on its screen?
I'm seriously considering one, but I don't really like using screen protectors. Think the Thunderbolt will have a Gorilla Glass screen? Plastic?
A side note, we need to stop screwing around and invent transparent aluminum.
I hope its glass
But its more than likely going to be plastic
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Whatever is on my Eris is pretty tough, haven't scratched it since release.
I got news for HTC, if this phone releases at the $749 price point, it had better not have a plastic screen.
Omen87 said:
I got news for HTC, if this phone releases at the $749 price point, it had better not have a plastic screen.
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I would be inclined to agree. 750 dollars is a steep price for a phone, it'd better be full blown gorilla glass for that price tag.
its 10000% scratch resistant glass (gorilla glass ? not posotive) but its not ****ty plast....old desire was plastic....desire hd was glass
BigBonkers said:
its 10000% scratch resistant glass (gorilla glass ? not posotive) but its not ****ty plast....old desire was plastic....desire hd was glass
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how do you know for sure? any linkage to documentation?
Its Gorilla Plastic.
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I got news for HTC, if this phone releases at the $749 price point, it had better not have a plastic screen.
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Thats Worst Buy's price. Verizon retail is $615.
It will be glass. Gorilla Glass... I do not think so, as HTC has not used Gorilla Glass to this date on any product.
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It will be glass. Gorilla Glass... I do not think so, as HTC has not used Gorilla Glass to this date on any product.
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May o' HTC reps have said that the DINC has a gorilla glass screen.
Just sayin.
Hopefully, we'll be seeing the TB soon. Who's going to use a screen protector?
Personally, I dislike them. They can make even the most beautiful screen look like crap if you get so much as a partial finger print on the wrong side of the film. On a plastic screen, they're probably a good idea though. Screens should be durable enough to handle being slid into/out of pockets and other general use without scratching them.
I hate screen protectors. I do put back covers on the phones though. I have used invisishield and I hated it. It ruins the smooth touch screen experience. My fingers would jam on the screen sometimes and sometimes the screen wont recognize when I swiped my finger.
No go on the protector.
TNS201 said:
Thats Worst Buy's price. Verizon retail is $615.
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What reason do you have to believe this, out of curiosity?
I bought this DInc for $550 and best buy is selling it, today, for $599 so I wouldn't be surprised if you're right, but I do wonder how you arrived at that particular number.
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HTC uses Opaque Aluminum-Silicone Base for their screens. This is basically Gorilla Glass.
Why is it called "Opaque" when it is see-through?
They don't want it to be called transparent aluminum for some reason?
Does this beast come with oleophobic coating, or is it just the bare screen?
JD
According to Eldar it does have an oleophobic coating
Fantastic, i will not buy a phone without it
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Fantastic, i will not buy a phone without it
JD
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You can always get an anti-glare matte screen protector. I yave one on all my devices, my G2, my Xoom, my EVO. That is the first accessory that I buy.
Of course, I'm assuming you're exaggerating about ditching the phone entirely for that one property, lol.
open1your1eyes0 said:
You can always get an anti-glare matte screen protector. I yave one on all my devices, my G2, my Xoom, my EVO. That is the first accessory that I buy.
Of course, I'm assuming you're exaggerating about ditching the phone entirely for that one property, lol.
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Nope,
Its a big thing when in direct sunlight, oleophobic coating is a must for me, especially coming from the NS, had enough of fingerprint covered screens, the nexus s was a joy
JD
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Nope,
Its a big thing when in direct sunlight, oleophobic coating is a must for me, especially coming from the NS, had enough of fingerprint covered screens, the nexus s was a joy
JD
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Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
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Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
Performance+Features > Glareless display
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Performance + feaures = screen
if you cant see it in the outside what would you do with features.
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Performance + feaures = screen
if you cant see it in the outside what would you do with features.
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That's why there's voice control.
open1your1eyes0 said:
Lol wow. Considering the specs of this phone I'd be willing to deal with it being a mirror if I have to just to use it. I mean you're not talking about just any Android phone here.
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Glare is there on Nexus S (not extremely bad though ) even with Oleophobic coating.
Thats not the advantage of the coating though, and glare is not a big deal if display is bright enough.(read AMOLED) You can always tilt it a bit away from light to get the read from the screen.
Problem is smudges. Those oily messy smudges makes it harder to see even if you tilt it away or in the shadow of your hands in bridght sunlight as light refracts and reflects in all directions thanks to smudges.
With coating and reduced smudges, its easier to see. But it does come at a cost.
The Gorilla glass might be scratch resistant, but if there is this coating on that top of it, it will develop micro scratches as this coating gets scraped off if you nick your screen with something sharp. Plain Gorilla glass would fare better in such cases. So its win some, loose some situation. I doubt there will be any coating on the Gorilla glass. If its there, I would be very surprised as it takes away the advantage of Gorilla Glass.
I can honestly say that the standard for smartphone displays is decent enough that I definitly have a couple of priorities above the display that I wouldn't care how good the display is, if doesn't meet those priorities first, I don't want it. Key being carrier, cpu, ram, battery life, size/weight, brand/UI, then the display itself. Like I said, the standard for smartphones is good enough that it's not as important for me as long as a matte screen protector exists for the device (which is pretty much every smartphone). I have yet to meet a modern device display that I cannot tolerate under all conditions. And maybe its just me but I rarely find myself walking under direct sunlight. And even when I do, I try to avoid it (not because of my phone, just I have no joy in it XD).
Just my 2¢
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Glare is there on Nexus S (not extremely bad though ) even with Oleophobic coating.
Thats not the advantage of the coating though, and glare is not a big deal if display is bright enough.(read AMOLED) You can always tilt it a bit away from light to get the read from the screen.
Problem is smudges. Those oily messy smudges makes it harder to see even if you tilt it away or in the shadow of your hands in bridght sunlight as light refracts and reflects in all directions thanks to smudges.
With coating and reduced smudges, its easier to see. But it does come at a cost.
The Gorilla glass might be scratch resistant, but if there is this coating on that top of it, it will develop micro scratches as this coating gets scraped off if you nick your screen with something sharp. Plain Gorilla glass would fare better in such cases. So its win some, loose some situation. I doubt there will be any coating on the Gorilla glass. If its there, I would be very surprised as it takes away the advantage of Gorilla Glass.
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I agree, I think no matter what, I will be putting a screen protector on it. A company called "ScratchGuard" makes one that resists Oil and Fingerprints, maybe that might be the route, although it does reduce some of the screen's clarity.
Why would you ruin your phone with a screen protector?
My Captivate has had no screen protector for almost a year and it's still blemish-free.
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Ive allways used a screen protector tbh but im thinking with this device i dont need 1 as its gorilla glass right? i do think screen protectors ruin a phone slightly but its protection, Does this device need a protector or will it be fine without 1?
looking to buy the device on launch day sim-free so would be ideal to buy a protector before if i do need 1,
coming from iphone 4 i allways had to use 1 and it did get annoying and before that the desire hd which i had to use also but that screen isnt made of gorilla glass is it?
MikeyMike01 said:
Why would you ruin your phone with a screen protector?
My Captivate has had no screen protector for almost a year and it's still blemish-free.
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I have to. Cant take chances, I took one with Nexus S thanks to Oleophobic coating and kinda regretting it. I use lots of jeans. Many of them have those metal buttons / studs near pocket. I scratched my Nexus S a bit while taking it out of pocket when it scratched against that. Thankfully it was a micro scratch at the bottom and not on viewable area. Not to mention the bloody earrings of my lady friends and family members. My heart skips a beat when unprotected screen nears their ears
I wont take that chance again
But isn't gorilla glass supposed to be super tough?
So we will need a screen protector?
Uhm, and how can a screen protector ruin a phone?
Even if the phone features a gorilla glass, it doesn't guarantee it from being scratch-proof.
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But isn't gorilla glass supposed to be super tough?
So we will need a screen protector?
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A screen protector will totally negate the oleophobic coating so i would not advise that, also the chemicals used to stick a screen protector on it might create holes in the oleophobic coating which will mean you will need a screen protector for life (we saw this many times in the nexus s section)
My advice is,
1. DO NOT use any screen protector at all!
2. buy a protective sock to put your phone into
3. ALWAYS leave it in a pocket that has nothing else but the phone in, inside its protective sock
4. NEVER clean the phone with any sort of polish or chemicals, always just clean it with a dry cloth
If you do these three things you will have a wonderful "as new" phone for the duration of your time with the SGSII )
JD
JupiterDroid said:
A screen protector will totally negate the oleophobic coating so i would not advise that, also the chemicals used to stick a screen protector on it might create holes in the oleophobic coating which will mean you will need a screen protector for life (we saw this many times in the nexus s section)
My advice is,
1. DO NOT use any screen protector at all!
2. buy a protective sock to put your phone into
3. ALWAYS leave it in a pocket that has nothing else but the phone in, inside its protective sock
4. NEVER clean the phone with any sort of polish or chemicals, always just clean it with a dry cloth
If you do these three things you will have a wonderful "as new" phone for the duration of your time with the SGSII )
JD
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Yeah your prob right
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Yeah your prob right
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When i sold my nexus s it was the same condition as when i brought it out of the shop In the house i use a cover to protect the back leaving the front open, and when im out and about i use a sock...
Show your phone some love;P
JD
its very true.. my omnia HD has also gorilla glass and I have it for a year and a half now and it was NEVER scratched... XD I even play with it, taking coins and start scratching the screen... lol.. I also make fun of the screen saying even with a knife its not sure the screen will be scratched..
and I DONT have a screen protector.
Does Gorilla glass on SGS2 requires screen protector / scratch guard ?
I read it's scratch resistant but not scratch proof. I'm planning on using a flip case like Zenus Carbon flip case so it has some protection on screen but might forgo the screen protector ? Haven't decided yet.
Looking at my leather case from phone in pocket small scratches .
jje
Dam, you had to say that heh. Looks like maybe screen protector is needed after all
I was really careful with my s1 and still managed to get small scratches on the screen. Gorilla glass seems to be fine with things like keys and stuff, but sand particles or anything similar will scratch the screen very easily.
Always make sure you have clean pockets or a clean case.
Asked several times and answered
Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
Shylesh said:
Asked several times and answered
Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant while nothing is scratch proof in this world
Get a quality screen protector
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Would you recommend some best brands.
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
I really love the screen on my phone and am loathe to put anything on it that will get in the way of it or ruin the feel when stroking the screen. I am looking to get a Zeuz carbon flip case which has micro fibre inner lining which is meant to prevent rubbing scratching the screen. Reading this thread has me wondering now
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I take it the Gorilla glass fitted to SGS2 differs from the Motorola Defy. Before getting my SGS2 I looked at a Defy and the advisor in the CPWH gave the Defy a real doing stabbing the glass with keys and wiping them across the screen and neither had any effect.
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Keys tend to be made from brass which is very soft. Sand however is much harder, mostly silicon with a MOHS value of 7 and will scratch glass and mild steel very easily.
Brass (Keys)= 3.5 MOHS
Steel = 5.5 - 7 MOHS
Sand = 7 MOHS
Gorilla glass???
now thats the question
Mustinky said:
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...... but the screen is covered with a coating which is highly scratchable & can be easily scratched from almost anything resulting in fine scratches that only can be seen under bright light at odd angles
this coating is supposed to protect the screen from oil and smudges so putting a screen protector on it just defeats the purpose of the coating
while also putting a highly scratchable coating on the screen defeats the purpose of the scratch resistant gorilla glass
so i think it's really complicated, but im keeping my device naked anyway
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i have had my captivate for a year, totally naked the whole time, the only scratches i see, are very small, and only visible in bright light at different angles. I hate screen protectors, my infuse, and inspire are also naked, so i will not be putting one on my SGS2 either
Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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Gorilla glass isn't break resistant... Look in the general section, a guy broke his screen with one fall.
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I have a gravel drive way, one fall on my driveway screen side and it's bye bye. lol
Extreme184X said:
Come people,
Gorilla glass is Break resistant, not scratch proof.
Look it up.
Iphones are known for its glass to break or crack with 1 fall.
Its obvious that any material can be scratch, doesn't matter whether its steel or diamond IT CAN BE SCRATCHED.
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I've had every iPhone since the original and have NEVER (I repeat NEVER) scratched the screen (not even a miniscule scratch). That being said, on the iPhone 4 I've noticed many small little scratches on the back glass which says to me it's a different type of glass.
Assuming the SGS2 has the same glass as the front of the i4, I'll be keeping the front naked the way g-d (or Samsung) intended.
yep, sand is bad. Very abrasive. That why repair shops and auto body shops have sandpaper, sandblasters, sanding discs, etc. Sand will scratch anything but a diamond. Diamond is the hardest element on earth, so don't put your diamond earrings or wedding ring in your pocket with your phone. You'll be sorry lol
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There is a detailed thread dedicated to this in the accessories section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065384
but I stand by
http://www.skinomi.com/
Had my SGS 2 for three days. Deep scratches in the glass. Gorilla glass my ass. Sad joke
Gorilla Glass or not, i'll put a screen protector on my phone...
Got the phone on launch day and love it only gripe is the screen has scratched. Minor scuffs and 2 deep enough that I can feel with my fingernail. Haven't dropped and don't put it in pocket with keys, coins etc. I've been babying the device so I'm a little shocked there's anything being as how it's gorilla glass.. My previous smartphones didn't scratch at all so I'm wondering if it's common with this device or htc phones in general? Guess it's my fault for not getting a screen protector (even though I've never used them with galaxy nexus or droid x)
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Got the phone on launch day and love it only gripe is the screen has scratched. Minor scuffs and 2 deep enough that I can feel with my fingernail. Haven't dropped and don't put it in pocket with keys, coins etc. I've been babying the device so I'm a little shocked there's anything being as how it's gorilla glass.. My previous smartphones didn't scratch at all so I'm wondering if it's common with this device or htc phones in general? Guess it's my fault for not getting a screen protector (even though I've never used them with galaxy nexus or droid x)
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One grain of sand is mightier than any gorilla glass.
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One grain of sand is mightier than any gorilla glass.
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yeah understandable but i've been SUPER careful with it and its got multiple scuffs on it. My galaxy nexus before never scratched and I could care less about that phone and it was supposively not even gorilla glass.
I babied my rezound, but one day I went to the beach........ Sand, chicks in bikinis, and sun tan lotion ruined my screen
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I babied my rezound, but one day I went to the beach........ Sand, chicks in bikinis, and sun tan lotion ruined my screen
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Haha sounds like a fair tradeoff
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yeah understandable but i've been SUPER careful with it and its got multiple scuffs on it. My galaxy nexus before never scratched and I could care less about that phone and it was supposively not even gorilla glass.
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The only way any glass can scratch is if it brushes up with something with a higher mohs rating than it does.
Gorilla Glass is rated at around 6.8 I think. So its going to have to take something that is harder than 6.8 to scratch it. Dirt will do it if sand is in it, other glass may do it, hardened steel will do it, sandpaper for sure, jewelry might do it, and so on.
There are very specific things that can hurt GG. While its tougher than non-tempered glass, its not invincible by any means. Dirty fingers could have sand (even if you don't notice it, and a swipe of your screen it will scratch. All over but the crying.
My wedding band is tungsten carbide and can scratch Gorilla Glass like it is butter (mohs rating of 9).
adrynalyne said:
The only way any glass can scratch is if it brushes up with something with a higher mohs rating than it does.
Gorilla Glass is rated at around 6.8 I think. So its going to have to take something that is harder than 6.8 to scratch it. Dirt will do it if sand is in it, other glass may do it, hardened steel will do it, sandpaper for sure, jewelry might do it, and so on.
There are very specific things that can hurt GG. While its tougher than non-tempered glass, its not invincible by any means. Dirty fingers could have sand (even if you don't notice it, and a swipe of your screen it will scratch. All over but the crying.
My wedding band is tungsten carbide and can scratch Gorilla Glass like it is butter (mohs rating of 9).
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Maybe I just got really unlucky
Hello, Ghost Armor? I'm headed your way....
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Hello, Ghost Armor? I'm headed your way....
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I just ordered a skinomi for it.
For our phone of course?
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For our phone of course?
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I don't think there are any at all for our phone. Spigen doesn't have any plans to make one either.
This is just one helluva coincidence; I was looking for this yesterday! I was put off by a scathing review of Zagg's HD protector that stated it scratched easily, which somehow made me aware of Spigen's glass iPhone 5 protector and their lack of one for the ELTE.
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Just get the sgp crystal clear.. Good as glass.
Why would you want a glass protector to protect glass? Wouldn't that be like having a vest made out of another persons skin and using it like a bullet proof vest?
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Why would you want a glass protector to protect glass? Wouldn't that be like having a vest made out of another persons skin and using it like a bullet proof vest?
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This...
OP seriously what did you smoked?
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BOO5TED said:
Why would you want a glass protector to protect glass? Wouldn't that be like having a vest made out of another persons skin and using it like a bullet proof vest?
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That is too funny!!
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Why would you want a glass protector to protect glass? Wouldn't that be like having a vest made out of another persons skin and using it like a bullet proof vest?
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that's hilarious :laugh:
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Why would you want a glass protector to protect glass? Wouldn't that be like having a vest made out of another persons skin and using it like a bullet proof vest?
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Haha… funny point, but if I wanted to have the look and feel of a human with the ability to replace damaged skin, this would be the way to go (even if it basically turns me into Buffalo Bill). As for the “bullet proof vest” part, I don’t think that the Zagg shield would be any better than a glass sheet at protecting the screen itself against a direct impact; their main purpose is for scratch protection.
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Why would you want a glass protector to protect glass? Wouldn't that be like having a vest made out of another persons skin and using it like a bullet proof vest?
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A screen protector isn't meant to prevent breakage. It's merely there to protect the screen from scratches and gouges from every day use. Really, even a crappy screen protector would still come between the elements and the screen itself, so it would serve this purpose plenty well.
If there was an unbreakable screen protector with impeccable light transmittance then I'd wonder why our screens aren't made out of that instead.
Not a solution to your glass screen protector, but just so you know that at least a few of the regular style aren't bad at all!!
I can personally attest for the Zagg HD and the Otterbox screen protectors. My parents and I have all had the Zagg HD screen protector on our Evo LTEs since launch day, and none of them have a single mark on them! I have since purchased a white Evo LTE (since they weren't an option during pre-orders) and have the Otterbox installed on it. I like the way it looks and feels MUCH better than the Zagg HD!!! I would actually replace the Zagg HD with an Otterbox on my black Evo LTE if I wasn't planning to sell it. The Otterbox isn't even visible unless you are really looking for a screen protector! It feels just like the bare screen, better than any screen protector I've ever used in the past(which is quite a lot as I've been using touch screen smartphones for almost 6 years now and update phones at least once a year). Either choice is pretty scratch resistant! I assume the Otterbox would be the easier of the two to scratch, as you'd have to be trying really hard to leave a permanent scratch on the Zagg as it "heals" itself from any marks within a couple days. That said, I still think the Otterbox is a better choice as I baby my devices anyway, and the looks/feels outweigh the scratch resistance of the Zagg. Just throwing in my 2 cents...
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I've been using the Zagg HD since it came out and I love it. Yes when the screen is off and I hold it at certain angles I can see minute scratches but I can't feel them or see them when the screen is on. The other thing I like about it is it does feel really close to what the screen actually feels like. The normal Zagg does not.
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