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Hey there i have a general question or a thought that came to me.
While using my tablet to check my email, searched the web play a quick game. never at any point did it look like or even feel that i was using a phone. I have a nexus one and love that too..... anyway. Question is if great devs like , Rothic, Roebeet, and Gojimi can mod O.S's and apps like office HD, and the kick ass launcher fitted for tablets, is Honeycomb, or even waiting for honeycomb for our tabs necessary?
Being that the "phone" versions of android are well developed, if modders and devs can make tablet specific apps pre Honeycomb why wait for Honeycomb? I remember reading that Homeycomb is a version 1 so it would be starting over again why not just stick with and maximize the 2.3.3 or froyo?
Just thinking out loud, but if Homeycomb is a version of Android that makes a tablet "look" like a tablet, with the ability to customize our tablets the way we want them, why not just develop or mod the HELL out of 2.3.3 or even froyo. Its supposed to be "optimized" for tablets but the apps that i use seems to not have an issue with the screen....I've seen great screenshots of peoples home screens and they look awesome... anyway sorry for long post...
Big up to the G tablet devs again.... thanks for making this tab the best bang for my bucks i have ever spent!!!
Is it Necessary? Probably not. As you said, we've got some pretty good toys right now.
However, you wouldn't be on this site if you weren't always seeking (like a bad habit), the latest and greatest... the newest 'eye-candy', etc.
One of the things that no OS/Launcher can completely fix is that many apps were developed with phones in mind, and they just don't scale or fir right on a tablet screen.
While HC won't just up and fix those problems, the increased exposure and focus on tablets will help convince developers to keep both platforms in mind when coding.
Now, let me get back to my latest CM RC7 with Tablet tweaks install while I wait for HC
I know the main leak wasn't, but I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations on a Honeycomb ROM that's suitable for everyday use? This waiting game is getting really tiresome.
It depends on what you need to be working. All of the HC ROMs have issues with the camera in most apps other than the stock camera app and some issues with the mail widget not updating. Most other functions seem to be pretty solid and the interface looks a lot nicer. Since Google never released the source code for HC the 3rd party developers have no way to fix the bugs and we have to wait for HTC to drop another leak or final release.
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kkinder said:
I know the main leak wasn't, but I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations on a Honeycomb ROM that's suitable for everyday use? This waiting game is getting really tiresome.
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The question is if you can live with the issues in the leak or not. They are not so big that you can't use it daily. I have it installed since the leak came out and happy with it. Never thought to go back...
For what it's worth....
It's just an operating system. It's like saying "I can't wait until I get Window 7 over Win XP". After the initial installation, and few minutes of "wow, that's cool" it's no big deal.
I had Honeycomb 3.1 on my GTablet and my girlfriend had an Motorola Xoom and it too had HC. IMHO the HTC Flyer is way better with Gingerbread than those with HC.
Just my opinion.
I don't think HC is going to give you any added functionality. If you use your tab for email, movies, web surfing, etc., then just stick to what you have.
Thanks all. Mostly I am looking at the tablet enabled apps, especially swype. But I don't know if I wanna put up with much broken, especially the camera which I actually do use. Thanks for your thoughts.
imp, swype is quite a hassle to use on tablets. Check out thumb keyboard. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.beansoft.keyboardplus&hl=en
I want to know if the pen functionality really impressive within all applications on honeycomb? Or is it just like another capasitive pen on other tablets because lack of pressure sensitivity? Can you feel the difference?
can anybody tell me major advantages of having honeycomb 3.2 except for better stylus support? (i dont hav a stylus)
beacause reading forums i found out following disadvantages of it....
1. hardware buttons gone (not a big one n its a +ve one saves a little bit of battery)
2. honey bar consumes space on screen (can be a lot annoying while gaming or reading)
3. many apps that people pruchased for GB are not working on HC(particularly games)
so should we upgrade for what benifits? should i stick to GB or i am missing something?
please help if i am wrong anywhere....
Multitasking better
Can fit more widgets and shortcuts on each screen
Better gmail app
Can run honeycomb only apps
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with GB flyer is USB client.... with HC will it giv USB host support?
I'll throw in my $.02 I guess. I used Honeycomb for about 24 hours. I had an Acer Iconia Tab for a day before I got my View, and to be honest HC was a big part of why I returned it. I'd never used HC before & I went into the experience with an open mind but ended up absolutely hating it. It kept slowing down, the taskbar was annoying(the buttons are too small & easy to miss), I didn't like how it forces you into landscape mode in many apps(I'm a diehard portrait girl), and I just didn't like the new menu structures or really anything about it honestly. I don't get the hype at all, I never once found myself thinking "Wow, this is so much better than gingerbread!" and if Sprint tries to push a HC update to my View I'm gonna decline it.
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3. many apps that people pruchased for GB are not working on HC(particularly games)
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Does anybody know where one can find a list of apps that work for GB, but not HC?
HC is faster and smoother than GB. The user interfaces are better integrated, not like a clunky big ass phone. The notification bar is far more useful. Everything just looks cleaner . I'd never consider going back to GB.
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I'll throw in my $.02 I guess. I used Honeycomb for about 24 hours. I had an Acer Iconia Tab for a day before I got my View, and to be honest HC was a big part of why I returned it. I'd never used HC before & I went into the experience with an open mind but ended up absolutely hating it. It kept slowing down, the taskbar was annoying(the buttons are too small & easy to miss), I didn't like how it forces you into landscape mode in many apps(I'm a diehard portrait girl), and I just didn't like the new menu structures or really anything about it honestly. I don't get the hype at all, I never once found myself thinking "Wow, this is so much better than gingerbread!" and if Sprint tries to push a HC update to my View I'm gonna decline it.
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Even on GB there are applications that will force you to landscape mode. Even if you have your rotation locked. Often this is because it simply works better this way. Mostly I've seen this though, is with games...
DigitalMD said:
I'd never consider going back to GB.
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it was a totally smooth and logical transition for me...over the weekend i will be trying to theme my GB phone to look like HC
Personal preference. I went to HC, can't see a reason to go back
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i guess it will still b USB client....in HC
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i guess it will still b USB client....in HC
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It's there and if it's not working in the stock ROM we now have kernel source and can recompile a kernel with that support included.
I heard from some people on the forum saying that HC on view is "sluggish." I am wondering if any early adopters can post their experience with HC on flyer/view.
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I heard from some people on the forum saying that HC on view is "sluggish." I am wondering if any early adopters can post their experience with HC on flyer/view.
Thanks
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Not true at all in my experience. Honeycomb flies on my View. Much smoother than Gingerbread.
Its smoooooooooooooth like honey, no crumbs like gingerbread. No complaints at all.
And what's about whatsapp? And phone mode mod? Can I use flyer like phone with HC?
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I heard from some people on the forum saying that HC on view is "sluggish."
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no way, it's fantastic...looks good, works perfectly in my opinion
not a big point...but a valid one... that screen still cant move 4 ways.... only two sides available with HC as well....
cant wait to use other app that takes advantage of the pen
In my personal opinion, HC is a slight improvement on GB with regards to the UI but saying that, I've reverted to GB for these reasons....
1, certain apps need to be adjusted for screen use as HC is not optimised for 7" screens. Google earth loses its lookaround and zoom buttons, PocketCloud loses its keyboard/mouse selection bar and BBC iPlayer does not work at all because of the lack of embedded flash.
2, the menu bar is really annoying when playing full screen videos and games. It causes either a modification to the aspect ratio of the image or worse (as in the app cases above) a loss of lower screen functions.
Until the app developers mod their packages (and some may not) and a method of auto-hide real full screen usage is added by HTC, then I'm staying with GB.
I use the pen often for business and manage reasonably well without the extra integration.
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2, the menu bar is really annoying when playing full screen videos and games. It causes either a modification to the aspect ratio of the image or worse (as in the app cases above) a loss of lower screen functions.
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I agree with this.
I don't really want to get into aesthetics because it's very subjective, but there were a lot of functional things I liked about GB/Sense that are now gone:
1. full-screen widgets
2. the soft (off-screen) buttons
3. the "menu" button that, when on the home screen, showed some useful shortcuts (like task manager)
4. the permanent shortcuts on the bottom of the screen (obviously conflicts with the new Honeycomb bar)
I was excited for Honeycomb because of its newness but honestly I think the GB implementation on the View was pretty great, actually; it was more suited to the smaller screen. I haven't noticed a difference in performance (it was never an issue) either way.
Hi,
Just got a 32GB HP Touchpad. Had it charged up last night and spent a couple of hours on it. I also have a Motorola Xoom 32GB and Apple iPAD.
My first thought was immediately install CMW 7, but wanted to hold back and use WebOS for a months first.
Wanted to get everyone opinion on what they've used for so far. Are you on WebOS or you went to the immediate route of Android?
If I go end up going to CMW 7 or 9 and decided to revert back to WebOS, what is the procedure / process to bring back to stock?
Thanks,
i just got a 32GB a few days ago as well
i also have a ipad and a transformer... only reason i got the touchpad is to kinda beat on it
(use it in my car audio setup/media player for my 2 18" BTL's )
i installed android (xron cm7.1) right away as i felt webOS is just not well developed yet and the fact that i LOVE the openness of cm7 and android...
it is easy to go back to complete stock... about as hard as rooting a "new" phone (using CMD/ADB)
i recommend staying away from the android builds if you use it as a daily pad due to the bugs and wifi issues right now...
in my experience my wifi sticks and bugs are minimal but like i said... i use it to beat on and dont really care to much if it gets broken
now i plan on selling my ipad and transformer for a transformer prime in a few weeks but i am really starting to like the touch pad for its simplicity
I use it for web browsing in bed and on the couch. I stayed on webOS for a few days before giving android a try. I greatly prefer webOS for my use. CM7 is gingerbread, and I don't feel gingerbread is a good fit for a tablet. All the apps are just phone apps scaled. At least there are a few tablet apps for webOS.
My biggest reason for sticking in webOS is the cards. Its just so intuitive to multi-task, and navigate.
The next reason is the browser. The stock webOS browser is far better than any browser I have found for android. Its not perfect, but its smooth and has native good flash support. I also really like the TouchPad keyboard with the number row.
I think I will change my mind when ICS comes out for the TouchPad. I have an android phone, and love Android, but don't feel a phone OS is a good fit on a 10" screen.
Check out the forums on webosnation, formerly precentral. There is a great guide there for tweaking webOS, using preware. The add-on I use the most us the thumb controls for the browser, it means a swipe from off the left or right edge gives you back, forward, refresh etc, so I can use my TouchPad one handed most of the time.
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Another note: you don't replace webOS with Android. Its a dual-boot set up. When you power up the device you get a choice (cyboot in pre ware lets you change delay and default) of webOS or Android (or CWM). Right now there is no way to fully remove webOS. The devs have given the following reasons: most devs like webOS, and it gives you a contingency if something goes wrong, you have a stable usable OS to fall back on
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I am not sure what someone with a Xoom and an Ipad would use the Touchpad for, but I use mine as a laptop replacement for most things. I got mine the first day of the sale so I used WebOS for a few weeks until they got android on to it. I liked webos, but it was quite obvious that it wasn't anywhere near a finished product (touch not sensitive enough, many MANY browser issues [only some of which were taken care of by purchasing advanced browser], waiting for 10+ seconds for any app to open). Still I liked its concept and it did well enough. I didn't like the lack of apps (I took the TP with the HP BT keyboard to school to take notes), but I would just used the web based version of the things I wanted to do (google docs, etc) which kinda sucked since they werent touch optimized but what can you do?
Then, when it was available, I put android on it. I used android to mess around, but still used WebOS 98% of the time since android was incredibly buggy and unusable for my purposes (plus the Gdocs app didn't work - LOL!). Things went like this for about another month and when CM7 a2.1 came out I installed it and things really started to smooth out. There were still bugs (though I never had wifi issues), but then I found the XRON flavor of CM7 and Leo's tweaks seemed to make an enormous difference in usability. I pretty much have not booted into WebOS since this time.
I use the TP for web browsing, taking notes (cant wait until HC or ICS on here so I can use the ASUS supernote app), playing games, controlling my new Onkyo Receiver, watching TED talks... The BT keyboard greatly increases its usability (for me).
Now once again, there is nothing there that you couldn't do with your existing tabs. You may consider making it a bathroom TV, or a part of your car stereo system. There was more I was going to say, but I can't really remember.
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Hi,
Just got a 32GB HP Touchpad. Had it charged up last night and spent a couple of hours on it. I also have a Motorola Xoom 32GB and Apple iPAD.
My first thought was immediately install CMW 7, but wanted to hold back and use WebOS for a months first.
Wanted to get everyone opinion on what they've used for so far. Are you on WebOS or you went to the immediate route of Android?
If I go end up going to CMW 7 or 9 and decided to revert back to WebOS, what is the procedure / process to bring back to stock?
Thanks,
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quarlow said:
I use it for web browsing in bed and on the couch. I stayed on webOS for a few days before giving android a try. I greatly prefer webOS for my use. CM7 is gingerbread, and I don't feel gingerbread is a good fit for a tablet. All the apps are just phone apps scaled. At least there are a few tablet apps for webOS.
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You typed ALL of that on the Galaxy S II?! Wow! Lol! You must be a professional Text'er
I think that would be one reason and potentially major reason I would hold off CM due to it being Gingerbread. I might rethink once it get ICS.
Thanks for the feedback from everyone on this.
The minute I got the HP and installed Accurweather. The first thing came to mind for me was to Velcro to the kitchen backsplash and use it as a calendar / To-do/ daily weather & news device
The only thing is trying to properly hide the charge cable.
Wasn't really sure what I would use a tablet for when I got it. We have a netbook, a home theater PC connected to the TV, a netbook for the couch, and both my wife and I have smartphones (my infuse and her iphone). To be honest, I haven't used it as much as I would like. We did take it on vacation last week and it was great on the plane for watching a movie (used mobo player) and finding things in the city. Aside from that I'll poke around on in it while watching TV if the wife is on the netbook and I don't feel like coming back here to the office to use the real PC. I have a feeling I'll be using it quite a bit at work to surf and screw off when I should be doing other things lol
I got it and immediately put CM7 alpha 2 on it. Haven't had any wifi issues, but I do have some charging issues (won't charge in CM7 if it gets below like 20 or 30% battery). I think webOS is very pretty, but it seemed very slow to me and the lack of apps just completely killed it for my use.
Trying to figure out of I want to get at BT keyboard for it still....
smilepak said:
You typed ALL of that on the Galaxy S II?! Wow! Lol! You must be a professional Text'er
I think that would be one reason and potentially major reason I would hold off CM due to it being Gingerbread. I might rethink once it get ICS.
Thanks for the feedback from everyone on this.
The minute I got the HP and installed Accurweather. The first thing came to mind for me was to Velcro to the kitchen backsplash and use it as a calendar / To-do/ daily weather & news device
The only thing is trying to properly hide the charge cable.
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Most of my posts are from my Galaxy S II, I've definately typed some diatribes on this soft keyboard. The 4.3" screen is perfect for me for one handed thumb typing. Good auto correct helps.
The Touchstone may help with the kitchen placement. They are $40 shipped on amazon if you can be a little patient (the prices fluctuate daily). They look like a little easel, you set the TouchPad in, and it charges wirelessly. The TouchPad goes into Exhibition mode, to display a clock, pictures, calendar (I think), or other apps. My favorite is LCARS Clock.
It also works in Android. It enters the clock app to display the time and weather.
It will even charge if you have a case on it. You should be able to hide the cable fairly easily. Then when you want to use it, just grab and go. The Touchstone was the first accessory I bought.
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quarlow said:
My biggest reason for sticking in webOS is the cards. Its just so intuitive to multi-task, and navigate.
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I think I will change my mind when ICS comes out for the TouchPad. I have an android phone, and love Android, but don't feel a phone OS is a good fit on a 10" screen.
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This basically sums up my feelings. I've only owned my Touchpad for a week, but I find webOS does basically everything I need it to do. It's my only tablet, and I really enjoy the webOS experience.
I'll add that I was also extremely happy when I found out that Dropbox file opening and editing worked flawlessly right away.
There may be a limited number of apps, but the stock apps work really well in my opinion. Most other things that don't have apps can be found through the browser (at least for what I use). For example, a Netflix app might be nice, but Amazon Prime Instant Video works perfectly through the browser.
If there is ever a decent Android ICS release, I'll give it a shot. Until then, I'll probably stick with webOS. I already have a phone on Gingerbread.
I use mine for web browsing, email and basic document editing. Basically a laptop replacement.
When CM7 came out I was using that primarily, but as of late I've switched back to webOS. Not because I prefer it, but because Android simply cant hold a candle to webOS in terms of battery life. Most of what I do in Android can be accomplished in webOS, so while I dont like the OS as much I cant justify staying in Android for long.
If the battery life ever gets better, I'll switch back to Android. Alternatively, once ICS comes out I'll take another look since from what I've seen of it I like the ICS UI far more than webOS enough that I can overlook the battery issues.
Jotokun said:
I use mine for web browsing, email and basic document editing. Basically a laptop replacement.
When CM7 came out I was using that primarily, but as of late I've switched back to webOS. Not because I prefer it, but because Android simply cant hold a candle to webOS in terms of battery life. Most of what I do in Android can be accomplished in webOS, so while I dont like the OS as much I cant justify staying in Android for long.
If the battery life ever gets better, I'll switch back to Android. Alternatively, once ICS comes out I'll take another look since from what I've seen of it I like the ICS UI far more than webOS enough that I can overlook the battery issues.
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Battery life? My battery life on çm7 is tripple what it was on webos. I go atleast 3 days on a charge.
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Used WebOS for 1 day and then dual booted with the XRON ROM. I have occasional wifi issues on Android but it is stable enough to use it instead of a laptop for browsing the web, email, FB, LinkedIn, productivity apps etc. and of course games.
WebOS is nice but the selection of apps is minimal...if you don't care about that it is a nice UI. Install Preware to speed things up...
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Battery life? My battery life on çm7 is tripple what it was on webos. I go atleast 3 days on a charge.
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I get 3-4 days on webOS and 1 1/2 days on Android. While usable, I dont want to wear out the battery since I think good ones might be hard to find later.
Games, games, and more games. I have 150+ apps installed and 90% are games.
Using a sixaxis controller with GTA III, Backstab, Modern Combat 3, and many other games is just to cool!
for photo display
Mainly use it as a monitor during photoshoot.Use with eye-fi card. So far so good.Thanks to the CM7& Drink team
internet emails alerts calender, remote access to my lappy, Facebook, watching bbciplayer, watching movies while trying to go sleep, alarm clock....lecture and meeting notes....infact the only things i use my laptop (Asus G73) for are games Photoshop and design programmes that won't work on the touchpad
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Games, games, and more games. I have 150+ apps installed and 90% are games.
Using a sixaxis controller with GTA III, Backstab, Modern Combat 3, and many other games is just to cool!
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Same!
I used WebOS long enough to hit the shutdown button only. Alpha 3.5 has treated me well. I have the nes, snes, n64, psx, and gameboy emulators paired with two ps3 sixaxis controllers. This tablet runs emulators wonderfully.
Second to games I monitor my alarm system, control my googletv, adjust my home thermostats, and while not being directly used it is a battery backed up home security camera dvr via ipcam.
Thirdly I use it for book reading, netflix, rdp control of a home media server, and web browsing. The a.I.type intelligent keyboard is free on market and has a split keyboard that allows me to type faster than I could with swype.
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I get 3-4 days on webOS and 1 1/2 days on Android. While usable, I dont want to wear out the battery since I think good ones might be hard to find later.
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You won't "wear out the battery" by using it!
You'll end up getting more life out of it if you "work" it all the time.
You may have issues with battery stats as android battery monitoring is very unreliable so make sure you clear them on ever ROM flash while fully charged.
I got mine a few months ago. I tried to play with WebOS and it wasn't bad but compared to Android it did suck. Long boot times aswell as loading apps.
Nice idea but android is more complete.
Currently updating with each Xron ROM and its been fine, apart from the old issue with wifi and FCs.
Currently use it for a alarm clock and browse the internet in bed.
I agree with the using WebOS for a while. It's not a bad OS. I like the cards too, but i can't say wouldn't want more icons on the dock and it would be nice to have widgets to put on the desktop behind the cards. But I'm sure when the source is released we can expect some better flavors of WebOS.
Android is fun to mess with, but it's still buggy and some features don't work well. It's not as fluid and i can't get the camera to work on mine for skype or taking pictures (with FC'ing.)
Currently I only use Android for a couple games, Google Voice SMS, ebuddy to chat, and browsing the net with Skyfire. As for WebOS, I play some WebOS-specific games, video chatting, Kalemsoft video streaming from my SMB share, ereader, and organizational things. Currently WebOS is more useful than Android by far. Other than not having a good chat program. When android isn't so buggy and is more fluid i'll give it a better shot.
I know this question had been raised many times, just wanted to get/share a decent statistical view/review about Flyer-HC and Flyer-GB..
The Basic Qurstion Would Be:
Why HoneyComb ?
-Is it faster ?
-Is it more stable ?
-Does it have better application/game compatibility ? <-----Doubt this {Gameloft Stuff/Skyscape/Medical Apps}
-Does it look more eyecandy ? <-----Doubt this
Thanks for sharing your opinion
Speed difference is subjective
Personally I think honeycomb fits a tablet better. The ui is more suitable. If you are not willing to root I can see how some do not like the honeycomb bar. Honeycomb apps make better use of screen.
With LeeDroids tireless work, honeybar or honey hide, and LeeDroids tweaks apk, you get the best of all worlds.
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I know this question had been raised many times, just wanted to get/share a decent statistical view/review about Flyer-HC and Flyer-GB..
The Basic Qurstion Would Be:
Why HoneyComb ?
-Is it faster ?
-Is it more stable ?
-Does it have better application/game compatibility ? <-----Doubt this {Gameloft Stuff/Skyscape/Medical Apps}
-Does it look more eyecandy ? <-----Doubt this
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To hell with all of that.
HC is closer to ICS.
And in all seriousness, way to have an unbias poll.
Compatibililty: Every single app that worked on my Flyer with Gingerbread works on my Flyer with Honeycomb. I have yet to find an app that Honecomb broke, and that includes games.
Speed: If anything, Honeycomb feels faster than Gingerbread, but the difference is minimal.
Eye Candy: there's not a huge differnce either way, though my Flyer with Honeycomb still feels fresh to me and feels very polished.
Stability: after the last Gingerbread security update, Sense would frequently crash on me. not so with honeycomb.
Expanded capabilities: The pen now works in all applications. Yeah!
Fixes: Arrow keys now map correctly on a bluetooth keyboard when the Flyer is propped up in landscape mode.
Why HoneyComb ?
-Is it faster...everything works and feels smoother to me
-Is it more stable...was never unstable and still isn't
-Does it have better application/game compatibility? never had had compatibility, still don't
-Does it look more eyecandy? yes, definitely...GB on the flyer made it look like a big ugly phone...HC is a heaps better user experience and makes more sense
I prefer Honeycomb, as it offers a better tablet experience than Gingerbread, which is a phone based interface.
Why HoneyComb ?
@jaguaralani maybe it would be better if you ask the reason they used HC instead of GB on Flyer or vise versa.
Main Reason : added pen functionality! SketchBook! lately start using it on Quill. awesome experience.
Application compatibility : HC - i can use Whatsapp Messenger, which is not possible on stock GB.
what about battery life comparism? i haven't notice on GB, but on Lee's HC ROM it stay around 5~6 hours with wifi + 3G and moderate usage.
It really boils down to GB is a phone OS, and HC is a Tab OS. Aside from app compatibility (which falls on app devs, not the OS itself) I vote HC hands down. For all functionality & looks.
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No comparison two different worlds.
Now I wish the walls could be torn down between Operating systems and treat them as apps running on a much more capable device so we could choose what we would like to run.
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I was running Honeycomb since the day the OTA came to the UK (so a few months now), but last weekend I decided I'd had enough and downgraded. Though it was a slightly harrowing experience, I'm very glad I did...
I very much dislike the updates that have been made to the Sense apps in honeycomb. Having text on each button rather than just the icon looks ugly on such a small screen and swallows precious real-estate. The browser is almost unusable in landscape mode because of this, and there's no option to hide the toolbar!
Lack of a real full-screen mode in Honeycomb really hurts the Flyer imo. 1024x600 is already quite a narrow aspect ratio and isn't particularly high-res. To reduce the vertical resolution by 32 pixels (I think that's the size of the shortcut bar), with no way of opting out is too annoying. It really badly affects games and video watching.
Though the frame-rate on the launcher is generally a bit better in Honeycomb, it reloaded a lot more often and would often pause for noticeable periods - more so than the launcher in Gingerbread. I also don't like how the Sense widgets have shrunk - the big full-screen widgets are one of the things I really like on the Flyer.
So all in all, playing games, browsing and watching videos are all worse for me on Honeycomb. Given these are the three things I do on the Flyer the most, I have to say it's Gingerbread for me... I miss some of the updated tablet apps and the improved performance (in some scenarios at least), but it doesn't outweigh all that's wrong with it either.
I really hope if/when ICS comes out, that they revert to the phone-style layout with hardware keys and a smaller, drag-down panel. It'd be nice if they could enable that interface with tablet apps, but I'd pick a big android phone over a tiny android tablet any day.
It really comes down to whether you like a tablet experience or a big phone. No offense to GB lovers but go play with the EVO 3D and then the Flyer running GB, similar feel.
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All I know is that I wish I never accepted the OTA Honeycomb update. My Flyer has been slow and buggy every since. Browser crashes a lot, flash hangs. Never used to happen on Gingerbread. Issues persist, even with custom ROMs. Can't even downgrade, due to newer HBOOT that is unsupported by revolutionary. I'm just hoping ICS clears things up.
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All I know is that I wish I never accepted the OTA Honeycomb update. My Flyer has been slow and buggy every since. Browser crashes a lot, flash hangs. Never used to happen on Gingerbread. Issues persist, even with custom ROMs. Can't even downgrade, due to newer HBOOT that is unsupported by revolutionary. I'm just hoping ICS clears things up.
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your issues are not common and to me would indicate an issue other than HC. and I believe if your Hnoot is supported by HTC Dev Unlock you should be able to roll back
FWIW, i rooted and installed the HC OTA on my View yesterday, adn i love it 10x more..to the poster who said GB makes it seem like a big ugly phone, you're so right. the screen is NOWHERE near as nice as my rezound, and it literally just seemed like a giant rezound..so i put HC on it, and damn, everything just looks so much cooler! i love the tablet UI much more.
for that LeeDroid tweaks, is that only on the flyer, or can i use that stuff on my View too?
Put HC on it last night and ended up playing with it for 3 hours after and I am paying for that now! Sooo tired.
Anyway, it is definitely a different experience then GB and makes it feel a lot different then my phone. Sense widgets are a little weird and the use of screen real estate for the launcher is questionable but I like it better right now. Need more time to play though.
The big question is will the wife like it. It is mainly her tablet and she hates change! I am expecting a lot of screaming to come out of her today of how much she hates it and I need to put GB back because she doesn't know how to do anything on HC. Will give you the follow-up report. She hasn't even seen it yet
Neither...
Both have their advantages and both have their disadvantages.
Overall, I think I prefer Honeycomb on my View. I am on stock. I like being able to use the pen more. I like the way the widgets work on the homescreens. The bottom bar mostly doesn't bother me, as I think more apps will build in support for dimming it. Since ther used to be a notification bar on top, I don't think the loss of screen real estate is that big of a deal.
Some issues I have had are that I seem to get more system force closes, but not enough to be bothersome. The stock browser crashes a lot, but I use Dolphin now, so no big deal. The keyboard is sometimes glitchy when editing text.
My other family members have elected to stay on GB because they like the capacitive buttons and don't care as much about being able to use the pen.
HC gives a more natural UI experience when used in landscape mode, with the bar at the bottom. Easier to reach, in a more natural way, in my opinion.
I've rooted GB to have phone function. Obviously GB for me since HC cannot have phone function.
Also, as previous HC user, I find HC not stable. Probably its stable now. But I'm not willing to take the risk and lose my phone function.
Phone has already been added by LeeDroid in his latest honeycomb Rom.
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