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I have googled it and I have looked through the market and I haven't seen any app that will do this. My gf plays bakery story, and she would like to be able to set the phone down, and still make virtual brownies If there isn't such an app, I think it would be a great idea for one. I'm sure there are many other applications for an app like this besides bakery story.
I am assuming there is not. Every forum I post this on... no one has an answer.
I notice the bar at the top that shows battery life and signal strength always disappears. Any way to have that stay on permanently?
I don't think so, but if you want to see the notification bar that contains the battery life and singla strength whenever, just swipe down from the top.
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I notice the bar at the top that shows battery life and signal strength always disappears. Any way to have that stay on permanently?
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This is from something that I wrote on WP Central a few days ago:
The philosophy of Windows Phone is pretty much "stop worrying and let the system take care of things." That's why status bar icons disappear from view except when they have something exceptional to tell you (no signal, low battery, etc). That's why there's no task manager (because tasks don't need to be managed). That's why there's no quick-access WiFi on/off switch (just leave it on and let the system manage things).
It takes a while to get used to this way of not actively having to do things to make the phone work. That "while" is probably longer for the former Android users because they are typically used to doing a lot more and thus have to let go of a lot more administrative duties than iPhone do. (As a former Windows Mobile user, it was hard on me, too. But I have accepted not pulling my battery frequently and not flashing new ROMs every few weeks to get new features.)
The main thing I wanted was the clock. Its such a pain in the butt when I am surfing the web or doing something in an app and I want to know the time I have to exit the browser or app to see the time and then re-start the browser or app again. Hopefully in the future they can at least have the option of the clock being there all the time or someone comes up with a workaround.
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The main thing I wanted was the clock. Its such a pain in the butt when I am surfing the web or doing something in an app and I want to know the time I have to exit the browser or app...
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Developers get the choice of whether to show the status bar or not. Panorama-style apps (like the Games and Pictures/Photos hubs) typically turn it off while Pivot-style apps (like Email or Settings) leave it on. Panoramas are typically graphically-rich and developers kept the bar hidden to not interfere with their layouts. Again, it is the developer's choice. I just noticed that the Office hub for WP8 does show the bar, so maybe the time will turn.
IE likely hides it so that more of the screen can be used for the web page being viewed. (Having the page scroll behind the text and icons on the status bar would be weird.) That said, there's an easy way in IE to temporarily show the status bar. Tap the "..." at the bottom to bring up the menu. Better yet, start to drag it upward a bit and then down -- this will show the status bar, but not pop up the whole bottom menu.
Thanks for the IE tip...works very well!
I travel a lot and would be nice if we can see status bar when not to make a phone call or checking time
Personally, I like not having it on the screen all the time. I prefer more viewing space than seeing other stuff clutter up the edges. Just my personal preference.
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The main thing I wanted was the clock. Its such a pain in the butt when I am surfing the web or doing something in an app and I want to know the time I have to exit the browser or app to see the time and then re-start the browser or app again. Hopefully in the future they can at least have the option of the clock being there all the time or someone comes up with a workaround.
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I am not sure what your lock settings are - but if you have pin/password that is enabled a few minutes after the screen is turned off (can be adjusted from Settings menu) then you can just turn off the screen and turn it back on. You'll see the start screen with time information and a swipe will bring you back to your app you were browsing.
Not an ideal situation but a workaround. I personally never had to do this FWIW.
My battery status and time are permanently displayed due to a bug and it's killing me.
Came after the 1308 update and won't go.
I am also on 1308 and this didn't happen. R u sure it is OS instead of some app related?
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This is from something that I wrote on WP Central a few days ago:
The philosophy of Windows Phone is pretty much "stop worrying and let the system take care of things." That's why status bar icons disappear from view except when they have something exceptional to tell you (no signal, low battery, etc). That's why there's no task manager (because tasks don't need to be managed). That's why there's no quick-access WiFi on/off switch (just leave it on and let the system manage things).
It takes a while to get used to this way of not actively having to do things to make the phone work. That "while" is probably longer for the former Android users because they are typically used to doing a lot more and thus have to let go of a lot more administrative duties than iPhone do. (As a former Windows Mobile user, it was hard on me, too. But I have accepted not pulling my battery frequently and not flashing new ROMs every few weeks to get new features.)
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Totally agree. WP8 does a great job of handling all the little tasks that seem to take up so much time on other phone OS.
I never worry about battery life and all that stupid stuff. I can get nearly 2 days on a single charge with Wi-Fi etc. constantly on.
Any battery drain issues are usually down to 'rogue' or badly written apps hogging all the resources. Never had a problem with my Lumia 920. Superb phone!!!
manicotti said:
This is from something that I wrote on WP Central a few days ago:
The philosophy of Windows Phone is pretty much "stop worrying and let the system take care of things." That's why status bar icons disappear from view except when they have something exceptional to tell you (no signal, low battery, etc). That's why there's no task manager (because tasks don't need to be managed). That's why there's no quick-access WiFi on/off switch (just leave it on and let the system manage things).
It takes a while to get used to this way of not actively having to do things to make the phone work. That "while" is probably longer for the former Android users because they are typically used to doing a lot more and thus have to let go of a lot more administrative duties than iPhone do. (As a former Windows Mobile user, it was hard on me, too. But I have accepted not pulling my battery frequently and not flashing new ROMs every few weeks to get new features.)
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You are awesome
manicotti said:
This is from something that I wrote on WP Central a few days ago:
The philosophy of Windows Phone is pretty much "stop worrying and let the system take care of things." That's why status bar icons disappear from view except when they have something exceptional to tell you (no signal, low battery, etc). That's why there's no task manager (because tasks don't need to be managed). That's why there's no quick-access WiFi on/off switch (just leave it on and let the system manage things).
It takes a while to get used to this way of not actively having to do things to make the phone work. That "while" is probably longer for the former Android users because they are typically used to doing a lot more and thus have to let go of a lot more administrative duties than iPhone do. (As a former Windows Mobile user, it was hard on me, too. But I have accepted not pulling my battery frequently and not flashing new ROMs every few weeks to get new features.)
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Obviously, this was written over a year ago, but I just happened to stumble upon this thread as I was looking for a way to pin the status bar icons.
In general, I agree with the statement about the Windows Phone philosophy. As someone who's long admired but only recently started using a WP8 device (Lumia 925), here's one area where the reality deviates from the philosophy in a very frustrating way: neither iOS nor Android require a user to determine which background tasks stay running and which ones needs to be shut down.
I get aggravated every time I see the "too many background tasks running" message, reminding me that I can only have so many running. Then I have to go to the Background Tasks menu item from setting and figure out which ones I want blocked, and then decide if I always want them blocked or if they should be revived the next time the app is started. I've seen this happen on the Lumia 925 (running GDR3), as well as on the much newer Lumia 1520 (GDR3, Lumia Black) that I owned for a couple weeks.
As a user, I don't want to have to remember / decide that kind of crud. I expect the OS to handle that stuff for me, so I'm surprised that in the year 2013, on an OS that is not in its first iteration, we have an issue like this. Currently, iOS and Android both handle this seamlessly, by suspending or freezing the application, or closing it as necessary. And yet, when the user goes back to the list of "open" apps, they can quickly switch back to the desired app. Frozen ones pick up where left off, and closed ones relaunch.
Let me be clear - I'm not being critical of manicotti here, just stating that we've yet got a long way to go.
While we're on this matter, I have searched but not found a satisfactory solution, and am tired of always remembering to exit apps by "back"ing my way out of them. Is there a better alternative or a solution thread that someone can point me to?
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It's funny that you quoted that piece today. My original words there were a copy of something that I had written on WPCentral back in 2012. I just wrote something else on WPCentral that addresses one of the points that you raised. The full thing is at http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-phone-8/255956-3.htm#post2276267, but the key part is that:
One of my big complaints with it is the term "background tasks" itself (in the Settings app) to refer to tasks that are scheduled to run every once in a while. The general public already has a different understanding of that term (i.e., tasks that are in memory and doing things while not currently displaying on screen). Given that the term already has a meaning, Microsoft should not have tried to redefine it. They recognized this from the developer's perspective and called the things "periodic tasks," which is what they are (started periodically and then shut down -- all independent of the main app that contains such "applets").I went on to complain about how this misuse of terms confuses users, that developers don't generally go out of their way to compensate for Microsoft's screw-up, and then propose a better UI for the Background Tasks page that conveys to users what they need to know about which tasks are running occasionally, which are not, and why.
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Obviously, this was written over a year ago, but I just happened to stumble upon this thread as I was looking for a way to pin the status bar icons.
In general, I agree with the statement about the Windows Phone philosophy. As someone who's long admired but only recently started using a WP8 device (Lumia 925), here's one area where the reality deviates from the philosophy in a very frustrating way: neither iOS nor Android require a user to determine which background tasks stay running and which ones needs to be shut down.
I get aggravated every time I see the "too many background tasks running" message, reminding me that I can only have so many running. Then I have to go to the Background Tasks menu item from setting and figure out which ones I want blocked, and then decide if I always want them blocked or if they should be revived the next time the app is started. I've seen this happen on the Lumia 925 (running GDR3), as well as on the much newer Lumia 1520 (GDR3, Lumia Black) that I owned for a couple weeks.
As a user, I don't want to have to remember / decide that kind of crud. I expect the OS to handle that stuff for me, so I'm surprised that in the year 2013, on an OS that is not in its first iteration, we have an issue like this. Currently, iOS and Android both handle this seamlessly, by suspending or freezing the application, or closing it as necessary. And yet, when the user goes back to the list of "open" apps, they can quickly switch back to the desired app. Frozen ones pick up where left off, and closed ones relaunch.
Let me be clear - I'm not being critical of manicotti here, just stating that we've yet got a long way to go.
While we're on this matter, I have searched but not found a satisfactory solution, and am tired of always remembering to exit apps by "back"ing my way out of them. Is there a better alternative or a solution thread that someone can point me to?
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AJ
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I generally hold down the "back" button until the window shrinks down and I can click the X in the upper right corner to close the apps.
Seems to work for most apps for me.
Installed CM10-20121205 and the latest GApps. Did not restore any apps or data using Titanium. Flashed to s-off using DirtyRacun method.
Wiped System->Factory Wipe->Installed CM10 Rom->Installed GApps->Rebooted
Alright, so I did all of that and everything seems to be working fine. However I still feel as though the phone is behaving just as badly as it used to with regards to multi-tasking. I'll give two examples with my favorite browser (Dolphin) and music player (Poweramp).
The browser issue I don't think is anything the folks here won't be familiar with. Use browser, exit browser for a bit, return to browser only to have to reload all pages/tabs. Annoying...
My next example involves the Poweramp widget. I listen to a lot of MP3s that call for a functioning bookmarking feature. I like/need to be able to resume tracks where I left off when pausing, putting the device to sleep for later use. When resuming a track by going to the Poweramp app ->Now Playing->Unpause it resumes just fine. If I unpause from the widget on one of my home screens it almost ALWAYS restarts the track from the beginning. This happens with both long (4 hour) mp3s and short songs (2-3 minutes).
Perhaps someone could explain why that's happening? It doesn't appear after about a day of use that the phone is any "better" for multi-tasking. I've heard input from some folks describing this as unusual and others saying that Android is just sort of like that. I don't know. I just sort of got it in my head after hearing so many people complain about how this phone (Sense) handles multi-tasking that I thought flashing to a new rom would fix the problem.
If this is a case of lofty expectations it would be super to know. That way I don't go flashing to a hundred different roms to fix a problem that isn't technically considered a problem by anyone other than myself.
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Second question! I've had no trouble using most every app that requires SU permissions (Titanium BU notably). However I've noticed that I am constantly having to grant SU permissions to apps even when I tell SU to remember my preference to allow. I've also not been able to get Wireless Tether OR WiFi Tether for Root Users to work correctly. I tried FoxFi and that seems to work just fine but doesn't require root (and costs money for the good version.
Any input would be vastly appreciated. Thanks!
Edit: I didn't see the "Is this post a question?" icon before posting this thread. I do apologize! Any input on this matter would be greatly appreciated. This forum and its community have been invaluable up to this point in my making my phone my own!
Just flashed over the MeanRom ICS and having the same problem.
I don't have that many widgets. Weather widget not on my home screen, power settings widget, power amp, and Google Search.
Wireless and WiFi Tether not working. Perhaps there's something wrong with how I rooted my phone? However, I ran a "root checker" app that came out okay, and my phone says s-off when in recovery mode.
It sounds like you have too many apps installed that run as services and are hogging memory. You can use an app like OS Monitor to see what's still active in memory and how much it's using up.
Just tried using the McTweaker Root app cynic method to fix multi-tasking and it unfortunately still seems broken. :/ I'm at a total loss.
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It sounds like you have too many apps installed that run as services and are hogging memory. You can use an app like OS Monitor to see what's still active in memory and how much it's using up.
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Tested this theory but it doesn't really hold water. I'm not running that many apps all things considered, and I was having this problem when it was fairly app free...
Oi vey this is frustrating. I've spent the better part of a long ass time.
I am looking for a cheap, preferably free, app to spy on my wife. I saw her doing something the other day and want to know what she was looking at while she was doing it. At this point I would be happy with a remote screen shot that emails a coupel times a day or something like that. I know she uses go sms for texting and that she uses facebook chat, saw her sliding something around on the phone and she said it was the new facebook chat. I don't use facebook because of somethings that have happened in the past. I canhave no idea what else she uses it's "none of my business" what she does on her phone. The ap must be hidden, the way I will be able to install it is her phone is rooted and keeps promting for an update, so I can install something while I'm doing the update, but nothing very extensive at all to set it up. I want screen shots becuse I don't know if she is video chating, or looking at stuff on the internet or what, so the safest way the find out is screenshots, like every minute or five. Key logger might come in handy too. I appretiate any help you give.
There is an issue with the latest list so don't copy it completely. I got a bootloop after restarting my phone today and I had to factory reset... this is as of 10/8/16 at 12:50pm. The list from the 5th of October on back should be fine. I'm currently trying to sort out the issue.
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Here is a list of apps and services which can be disabled on the Note 7 while still maintaining stability; Data, Calling, Texting, MMS, Wi-Fi, Tethering, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, Camera, EQ, HD Calling, Always On and all the S-Pen features work, but most other things are turned off like Fingerprint, Iris, NFC, Edge Panel, Pay Services, etc... This list isn't meant to be copied exactly by everyone because we all use our devices differently but you can pick and choose what you want to get the optimal performance from your device.
As of 10/6/16 I have 180+ apps and services disabled and today I got over 8 hours of SOT with 11% battery left (over 9 hours projected of SOT based on the days' usage). I didn't use any power saving modes and kept my brightness at a reasonable level so using the device was easy and not annoying due to the brightness being so low. I had location and sync enabled and wasn't doing any unnatural things trying to squeeze out as much battery life as I could. This was real world usage with all the necessary features and background processes running so using the device felt natural and functional. I say this so people don't think I fudged these numbers by doing things like letting my phone sit with the screen on while at the lowest brightness and not using it, or that I was using some power saving modes to squeeze out as much life as possible. My phone ran at full power all day. I've never even toggled power saving mode on my phone before.
Due to XDA's limit on the amount of image uploads I'm going to create two post with the complete list of disabled apps and link them here in the OP.
I'm using EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the play store to disable these apps and services. I bought that one because it had the highest rating.
Below here are some updates I posted during the process of figuring out what to disable. The post with the latest date is always going to have the most current and relevant information.
9/30/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68930083&postcount=16
10/2/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68950934&postcount=23
10/3/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972097&postcount=26 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972131&postcount=27
10/5/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68999679&postcount=33
[UNSTABLE something in this list caused me to bootloop]10/6/16 - 184 Disabled Apps & Services List Part 1 Here and Part 2 Here XML Export File List Here
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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tonymy01 said:
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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Actually, most of the features are still there. I bought it for the S-pen features and all that is still there. Did you go through the list and see what I turned off or are you just replying to reply? If you read my OG post you'd see I said that my goal was to keep the functionality of the device.
This phone is loaded with bloat and useless services and apps that most will never use. All these things can cause battery drain, cpu usage, ram usage, hardware heat, among other things. So why not turn off what is not needed? It doesn't matter how much ram the phone has, why run stuff that doesn't need to run since you aren't using it?
Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, Samsung cloud (much more useful than Google backup as it supports call logs, sms and other recoveries), the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Like I said, I bought it for the S-pen features. What I disabled I don't use and have no use for. Also If I want to use them at any time I can just reenable them. So let's go through your list. Fingerprint, I use swipe or a pin or a pattern. S-health, I use google fit, or nothing since I don't need a smartphone to tell me how to be fit. Android pay, I use cash. Software updating, if I want an update I can manually grab it, I don't need a service running constantly checking for them. Iris scanner, it's stupid and I'll never use it. Gmail, I use inbox and Alto. Standard email, I only have gmail accounts so don't need other email services. Game launcher, I don't play games. Emergency Alerts, seriously? You are just looking for things to justify your post, EA's are useless and annoying when they pop up and have never benefited me once. Car mode, I have no use for it since I drive a 2000 windstar minivan and waze provides me with all I need in a car. Also, you didn't name one thing that makes this phone great but rather things that are basically on all Android's. Again, I bought the phone for the S-pen, all that is still there. Why are you even doing this? your post are as useless as the apps and services I disabled.
Troll flushed where it belongs. Goodbye, no need to be so rude about it.
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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Totally agree. I will try testing N7 when I get mine. First factory reset it out of the box (maybe get the update first then factory reset it with recovery). After that set it up keep all apps and see how battery is... the try the disabler I loke to debloat because phone looks much more cleaner then. And any debloat list is totally personal that why I used TB on my rooted devices, this time won't rush to root
Just disable the damn phone, turn it off and stop using it lol
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Why all the hate?
I really don't get when people post about disabling certain features that others get upset. Or use power saver, etc.
This is one of the great things about Android, the ability to customize and mod our phones to our liking. Try doing any of these things with an Iphone, you can't. So this particular user wants to disable Gmail and messages because he uses other services (Inbox is awesome). He reports back that things still seem stable? Great! I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
Let's talk about the great features we have, which include the ability to replace core apps if we desire. Don't jump on someone for doing so.
A mouse running into a room at a party doesn't cause chaos, how people react to it does. We are all responsible for our own actions. You don't like how someone else customizes their phone, who cares? Move on to the next post.
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Why all the hate? I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
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Used the phone very heavy today and ran into no real issues. I had to reenable one service because I tried to use the built-in EQ and it made settings crash. I was able to find the cause in less than a minute and reenable it The service that needs to run for the EQ to work is "SoundAlive" on page 8.
Also got 2.75 hours of SOT and 3 hours of gps use and was right at 50% battery left. At the end of tomorrow I'm going to post some screenshots.
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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No problem. I plan on trying to get more added to the list. Once I know what I've added so far is safe and doesn't cause any issues I'll slowly add more.
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I've done another day of heavy use today and I'm very happy with my results. I had over 3 hours of SOT using auto brightness which stayed on max brightness most of the time since I was outside and I still had over 40% (I estimate I was on track to get very close to 6 hours SOT with max auto brightness!!!) battery left when I got home. I also used GPS for about an hour along with installing app, and constantly doing other stuff on the phone. I'm going to update the OP with some more screenshots. But from these past two full days of very heavy use and no force closes or issues to speak of (other than having to turn SoundAlive back on for the EQ to work) I'm going to say what I've disabled so far is safe and causes no dependency issues. Also, the phone runs very smooth and doesn't get hot at all. Even today with basically 3 straight hours of SOT and max auto brightness the phone never heated up.
Oh! I'm at 101 things disabled now (not including my downloaded disabled apps) which is how I ran it all day today. More to come! Once I feel like I've found everything I can disable safely I'll do a new updated OP with all I found.
9/30/16 screenshots just showing some battery and cpu use stats. In the future I'm going to add some temp stats. If anyone has a good app for monitoring temps let me know even if it's paid. I don't mind buying apps that are good and useful.
Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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I've always hated automation. I can't stand things running without my permission! I've had all startup programs on windows disabled since 2003 Back in the day on Windows XP I got my active running services in task manager to below 20. I'm now at 101 things disabled on the note 7 and I know there is a ton more I can turn off but I'm going about things slowly. I've confirmed that the 101 things I've turned off so far are safe and the phone definitely runs better in every way.
As far as the ram theories and myths about Android it's mostly people repeating their misunderstandings. Of course if you are using the apps in the ram a lot it's good for them to be there because they will load faster but if you are never using those apps and services and they are still sitting in your ram then it's not productive and a waste of resources which will cause the phone to not run optimally. These phones (and computers) come preloaded with tons of stuff running because they are targeted at the average user and not at the power/informed users. Anyone who knows much of anything about computers and how they are setup from the factory knows they are not configured for performance but rather a balance between performance and usability. Of course Android is getting better and better at managing apps and putting them to sleep but there still is nothing better than completely disabling things you don't need and will never use and thereby freeing up resources you can use for things you are actually using...wow! what a concept, have resources there to use for things you actually use! Genius! People seem to act like having ram full just for the sake of having it full is a good thing in Android when that is completely false. Even Android likes to have resources free that it can use for other things.
142 disabled apps and services
So I'm now sitting at 142 things disabled. I'm going to run my current setup for a couple days and see how it goes. I'll report back the results. Hopefully in a week or so I'll have a full list of what can be turned off without having issues.
Looking forward to your end results. Thank You for sharing your experience debloating.