Scroll/select issue - InvisibleShield to blame? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey folks,
I have a persistent problem with my phone where often when I scroll up or down I end up inadvertently selecting items as I drag my finger across the screen. This happens consistently across applications and has persisted through flashing multiple SBF's. I'm running Gingerblur right now but this started happening before I installed my first custom ROM. I recall that touchscreen sensitivity went way down with the 1.53 update but I know I had this problem previous to that. I'm certain my finger/thumb remains firmly on the touchscreen for the duration of the swipe and doesn't end up tapping to select anything as I scroll.
I do have an InvisibleShield protector on my phone but I wouldn't think that's the culprit. I've used these on my phones for years now without issue.
Anyone have any ideas or is it off to the AT&T store to plead my case? I can't exactly take the InvisibleShield off 'cause I wouldn't be able to reapply it afterwards...I'd be out $15 for a new one.
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Zagg will replace it for free if it is damaged while protecting your phone as long as you registered it. If you bought it third party you do have to pay shipping.
I have a shield on my Atrix and do not have any issues, although this phone is more sensative than my EVO.
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JdeFalconr said:
Hey folks,
I have a persistent problem with my phone where often when I scroll up or down I end up inadvertently selecting items as I drag my finger across the screen. This happens consistently across applications and has persisted through flashing multiple SBF's. I'm running Gingerblur right now but this started happening before I installed my first custom ROM. I recall that touchscreen sensitivity went way down with the 1.53 update but I know I had this problem previous to that. I'm certain my finger/thumb remains firmly on the touchscreen for the duration of the swipe and doesn't end up tapping to select anything as I scroll.
I do have an InvisibleShield protector on my phone but I wouldn't think that's the culprit. I've used these on my phones for years now without issue.
Anyone have any ideas or is it off to the AT&T store to plead my case? I can't exactly take the InvisibleShield off 'cause I wouldn't be able to reapply it afterwards...I'd be out $15 for a new one.
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This sometimes happens to me w/ the Skinomi SkinTech which is pretty much the same thing as the Zagg InvisibleSHIELD. I notice it the most when Im Swyping someone a text message. Can anyone w/o a screen protector confirm they dont have this problem when Swyping or scrolling?

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Dust Under Screen?!

I dont know why it is with these newer model phones, but just from the suggestion posts that came up when i entered the title of this thread, but My LGOT and i guess even the G2 have an issue where dusts starts to build up under the sceen....
Ive only had my phone for a little over 2 weeks, but even after the first couple days, i noticed that there were already a few trickles of dirt right around the middle of my screen.
I guess my main question is, is there anything i can do about this, has anyone had the same troubles, and what can we do to prevent this from happening?
In Thailand this is general problem of LG Optimus One
you should contact LG Customer support
they'll open your phone and blow dust out
if dust cause touchscreen malfunction they'll change new one for you
some people guess that dust already in the phone due to assembly process from factory
some guess maybe dust go through usb port
I have my phone since 2 days and i already have a dust spot in the lower right corner. This is annoying! If this spot is growing i will contact the costumer support.
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I am working on dusty area, but no dust under screen. Phone is 1 month old.
Me I have not this problem, but remains me the same issue with the iPhone 2/3 (google iphone dust screen).
I think it's a common problem with capacitive screen, but no "easy" solutions to fix it...
poor construction quality, imho.
chtamina said:
poor construction quality, imho.
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this is one of those instances where a really cheap phone shows its faults. the phone is free on contract and little of $200 without. with it being so incredibly cheap, there is going to be something wrong that causes concern.
Im okay with it happening as long as it gets fixed and the problem is acknowledged by both LG and the phone carriers. it seems like many people are having this problem at the moment and T-Mobile is willing to exchange it in store, so good on them for being considerate.
i have the same issue. Don't know how to prevent that
ooyyeh said:
I have my phone since 2 days and i already have a dust spot in the lower right corner. This is annoying! If this spot is growing i will contact the costumer support.
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Same Here! Very annoying because the phone is less than one week old!
I actually have not this problem my device is now over 2 weeks old. Maybe it depends on the area you are or temp.? ect...
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No dust here either. I have a silicon case, I don't think it helps very much.
just disassemble it. There is no warranty seal. You'll find the dust inbetween the lcd screen and the capacitive overlay.
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stefanblag said:
just disassemble it. There is no warranty seal. You'll find the dust inbetween the lcd screen and the capacitive overlay.
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Can you show us a Video on how to do that?
I had problem with my device, called my operator and they exchanged my phone. New phone seems alright
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just disassemble it. There is no warranty seal. You'll find the dust inbetween the lcd screen and the capacitive overlay.
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Hi! please tell us how to do it!
I too have this problem Can any one please let us know how to get rid of it.
I have the same problem with my Optimus One, dust is starting to gather on the right bottom corner and it seems to have increased since the first time I saw it. I've thought about buying a can of compressed air and trying to blow it near the edge of the screen but maybe that will just make it spread even further.
I've also thought about unscrewing the screws on the back panel of the phone and clean it but I'm afraid that it will affect the capacitive screen in some way making it less responsive and that after I assemble it back together it'll become even less air tight and thus accumulate even more dust.
Maybe I'll reclaim my warranty but I'll have to un-root my phone and wipe it clean before leaving it at the store and it's going to be a pain in the ass to reinstall everything when it returns.
Will they replace the mobile for this problem?
You can back up everything by titanium backup and copy the titanium backup folder from sd to your pc or pen drive. In your newly replaced phone you can copy back this folder to sd card and after installing titanium backup application you can restore everything.
S3nd41 said:
I have the same problem with my Optimus One, dust is starting to gather on the right bottom corner and it seems to have increased since the first time I saw it. I've thought about buying a can of compressed air and trying to blow it near the edge of the screen but maybe that will just make it spread even further.
I've also thought about unscrewing the screws on the back panel of the phone and clean it but I'm afraid that it will affect the capacitive screen in some way making it less responsive and that after I assemble it back together it'll become even less air tight and thus accumulate even more dust.
Maybe I'll reclaim my warranty but I'll have to un-root my phone and wipe it clean before leaving it at the store and it's going to be a pain in the ass to reinstall everything when it returns.
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Wow, DUST really get into the phone and I thought I was the only person experiencing this... actually it's on the "RIGHT BOTTOM PART" as posted S3nd41 and probably half of the users here has this problem....

Finger tip dragging issue?

Anyone else have difficulties with using your fingertip to drag on the screen? Seems to always miss a spot and drop icons. Thumb works no problem.
Don't recall this happening before the update.
Just tried it and I didn't get any problems; might be due to the dropped signal because of the thickness of the skin there.... but it could be from the update; I haven't had any LCD problems yet.
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I downloaded a touch test app, it definitely loses touch signal at various parts of the screen, happens on both of my Atrix phones. Pressing with my thumb is better but still not perfect. Happened after the latest update.
I hate noticed if I used my fingertip to drag/scroll and if my fingernail touches, it registers a press. Didn't happen before the update, but I'll just have to get used to it.

[Q] Replaced Screen not working correctly

My wife dropped her Rezound and smashed the screen. After purchasing and installing the screen it works, but not always. It seems to get random screen taps towards around the first quarter of the screen so it is always canceling what she is doing or typing extra letters when she is typing. I've taken it apart a couple more times to inspect it and it seems like all is connected soundly. Any idea on how to fix this?
Many thanks!
You can never be sure with 3rd party replacement LCDs and digitizers.
Greys right I bought a third party digitizer for I'm incredible and I seemed like some spots just didn't touch right, also you need to make sure there's nothing pinching the wire ribbon and its in strait, that could cause these problems as well. Hope this helps, remember always go OEM, batteries, screens, digatizers.. these components are made to a certain standard by HTC that third party manufacturers don't care about.
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Thanks for the advice. However when I power off the screen, and press on the digitizer and turn it back on it seems to work better for a while. Might there be a loose connection I'm missing?
Where's the best place to buy an OEM digitizer?
Thanks again!
I'm not sure if you can buy an OEM digitizer.
Only from an old unused rezound as far as I know..
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i have the same issue on a digitizer for my rezound. i have to turn the screen off and back on to fix it.

Upper left screen gets glitchy

Hi guys.
when i am on a landscape mode only, a big square appears every 2-10 seconds on the left upper side of the device (left to the LG logo)...
is it a software or a hardware issue?
Thanks!
Same issue here. No clue.
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anyone else have this issue?
that's really strange.
I too am having the issue. Will probably use this to justify trading for another phone within my 45 day Best Buy silver premier return window. I like the phone but this issue and how my phone just shuts offs needing me to hold the power button to reset twice a week is getting annoying. I also noticed the back is easily scratched. Always run my screens naked and never had a scratch since my Diamond Touch so figured the back would fare as well as screens. Picked up three noticeable scratches on back within a week.
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slaveonepunx said:
I too am having the issue. Will probably use this to justify trading for another phone within my 45 day Best Buy silver premier return window. I like the phone but this issue and how my phone just shuts offs needing me to hold the power button to reset twice a week is getting annoying. I also noticed the back is easily scratched. Always run my screens naked and never had a scratch since my Diamond Touch so figured the back would fare as well as screens. Picked up three noticeable scratches on back within a week.
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Is there a reason for these phones turning off like that? It happens to me a bit too, and I have to hold the power button for a bit to get it to restart.
@OP: No, I do not notice this issue. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right area though..
I think it may be related to heat. The area on mine sort of stretches and distorts the image in a nice rectangular area. If you look at the teardown, it is where the ram is located along with processor underneath. Since it happens to everyone in the same spot, I doubt it's a defect in the screen but a symptom of the heat. Can't be a harbinger of good things.
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Ghost touches

So I'm watching youtube on the dual screen using landscape and I want to sleep the main screen so i touch sleep main screen option on the dual screen tab tool, it shows a prompt saying main screen will dim to save battery and swipe to dismiss. I dont touch or swipe anything and the prompt swipes itself away and screen undims or sometimes doesn't even dim. This is also the case with Call of duty mobile, when I'm playing the game in battle royal mode the mini map enlarges randomly even if I don't touch it, and the voice chat options will engage and open without me touching those as well. Anyone else has this problem? Any solutions?
I could have sworn I saw a post earlier about ghost touches, though I can't seem to find the thread it was in at the moment.
I've been using the phone heavily since I got it on April 1st, and I have not experienced this issue at all.
Any chance you had an LG phone prior to this and used LG Switch to transfer over all of your stuff?
I've read reports here that doing so can cause some pretty serious battery drain and/or lag issues, so there could be other bugs as another side-effect.
Have you tried a factory reset?
Mejilan said:
I could have sworn I saw a post earlier about ghost touches, though I can't seem to find the thread it was in at the moment.
I've been using the phone heavily since I got it on April 1st, and I have not experienced this issue at all.
Any chance you had an LG phone prior to this and used LG Switch to transfer over all of your stuff?
I've read reports here that doing so can cause some pretty serious battery drain and/or lag issues, so there could be other bugs as another side-effect.
Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yeah I think I read that thread. I haven't tried a reset since I already used so much data to download apps and don't want to setup the phone again. I did use the google cloud restore for my contacts and I also had the t mobile April security update. Mejilan can you tell me if you can put your main screen to sleep while watching a youtube video on the dual screen? Please tell me what kind of result you get. Thanks
Lowe941 said:
Yeah I think I read that thread. I haven't tried a reset since I already used so much data to download apps and don't want to setup the phone again. I did use the google cloud restore for my contacts and I also had the t mobile April security update. Mejilan can you tell me if you can put your main screen to sleep while watching a youtube video on the dual screen? Please tell me what kind of result you get. Thanks
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I set aside the the dual-screen accessory because it's just too uncomfortable to hold for most use-cases.
I'll go dig it up, plug it in, and give it a shot later, when I have some free time, and report back.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v60-thinq/help/phantom-home-button-presses-t4082573
Above is the link for the other thread.
Lowe941 said:
Yeah I think I read that thread. I haven't tried a reset since I already used so much data to download apps and don't want to setup the phone again. I did use the google cloud restore for my contacts and I also had the t mobile April security update. Mejilan can you tell me if you can put your main screen to sleep while watching a youtube video on the dual screen? Please tell me what kind of result you get. Thanks
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If you play a YT video on the second screen and lock/sleep your phone, the second screen goes to sleep as well.
I didn't bother with headphones for this test, and noticed that the audio comes out of the phone's speakers.
It appears that the second screen doesn't have speakers of its own.
So yeah, you cannot watch something on the second screen while having the phone asleep.
And it make sense. It's just a screen. No second pair of speakers. No second headphone jack. No separate battery. No second set of modems, etc.
Mejilan said:
I set aside the the dual-screen accessory because it's just too uncomfortable to hold for most use-cases.
I'll go dig it up, plug it in, and give it a shot later, when I have some free time, and report back.
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It actually was working for me last night as far as the putting main screen to sleep function but call of duty still acts up I'm hoping the update for the game on May 1St will fix, but sure whenever you get a chance...
Lowe941 said:
It actually was working for me last night as far as the putting main screen to sleep function but call of duty still acts up I'm hoping the update for the game on May 1St will fix, but sure whenever you get a chance...
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I answered your YT question one post above yours that I just quoted.
Mejilan said:
I answered your YT question one post above yours that I just quoted.
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Actually you CAN watch youtube on the second screen and sleep/dim the main screen by using the floating dual screen button. It has an option asking if you want to sleep dim the main screen to conserve battery life. It does work for me now, I'm not sure why it was going wonky on me when I first posted but hopefully that it doesn't do it anymore. I'm guessing the tmobile April security update did the trick. It's just I have phantom touches on call of duty still.
Lowe941 said:
This is also the case with Call of duty mobile, when I'm playing the game in battle royal mode the mini map enlarges randomly even if I don't touch it, and the voice chat options will engage and open without me touching those as well. Anyone else has this problem? Any solutions?
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This is happening to me as well when I'm playing PubG Mobile. The ghost touches are happening not on the map but to the left of that. On another LG V60, the device would get random dead zones as well.
I'm going to do the following test and suggest you do the same and report back your results.
1. wait until the ghost touches start happening and flip the phone around. hopefully the ghost touch continues to happen in the same exact location of the physical screen, and it triggers a different button
2. remove the screen protector and try the tests again
are you using a screen protector?
might process a warranty replacement if the results are reproduceable
Lowe941 said:
Actually you CAN watch youtube on the second screen and sleep/dim the main screen by using the floating dual screen button. It has an option asking if you want to sleep dim the main screen to conserve battery life. It does work for me now, I'm not sure why it was going wonky on me when I first posted but hopefully that it doesn't do it anymore. I'm guessing the tmobile April security update did the trick. It's just I have phantom touches on call of duty still.
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Oh, that is good to know. I'm not using the dual-screen attachment anymore (typing in portrait mode is IMPOSSIBLE with it), but I only ever used the Dual-Screen notification shade tile to enable the second screen, not the pill button thing. I should have explored our options more thoroughly. Thank you for correcting me.
Edit - I have recently added a tempered glass screen protector to my phone, and while it completely screwed with my fingerprint biometrics (I had to delete the fingerprints and redo them), the protector itself is not causing any ghost touches for me. And once I redid the fingerprints, there have been no further issues there either.
jd254 said:
This is happening to me as well when I'm playing PubG Mobile. The ghost touches are happening not on the map but to the left of that. On another LG V60, the device would get random dead zones as well.
I'm going to do the following test and suggest you do the same and report back your results.
1. wait until the ghost touches start happening and flip the phone around. hopefully the ghost touch continues to happen in the same exact location of the physical screen, and it triggers a different button
2. remove the screen protector and try the tests again
are you using a screen protector?
might process a warranty replacement if the results are reproduceable
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Yes I am using a screen protector and I was actually thinking that might be the problem, although it seems like a solid install. I just got the update for cod season 6 and I'm downloading now. I'll see if that solves the problem. I'll also try what you suggested and then post results
Update: so the cod update did not fix the issue, but I tried doing as you suggested and flipped the phone around and the problem went away. I then tried flipping it back to original and problem persisted. I think it is the tempered glass. I don't want to remove it since it cost me 40 bucks. Any suggestions?
Mejilan said:
Oh, that is good to know. I'm not using the dual-screen attachment anymore (typing in portrait mode is IMPOSSIBLE with it), but I only ever used the Dual-Screen notification shade tile to enable the second screen, not the pill button thing. I should have explored our options more thoroughly. Thank you for correcting me.
Edit - I have recently added a tempered glass screen protector to my phone, and while it completely screwed with my fingerprint biometrics (I had to delete the fingerprints and redo them), the protector itself is not causing any ghost touches for me. And once I redid the fingerprints, there have been no further issues there either.
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So I installed the update for cod and it still had the ghost touch problem with the top right side of the screen, iflipped the phone per what jd254 suggested and I didn't get the phantom touches. I'm assuming it is the tempered glass that is causing it. I dont want to remove it cause it cost me 40 bucks.
2nd update: so I tried taking it out of the dual screen case and notice it doesn't have phantom touch ( I played a full game of battle royale) so I'm not sure if its the tempered glass or the case. Need to investigate more
Lowe941 said:
So I installed the update for cod and it still had the ghost touch problem with the top right side of the screen, iflipped the phone per what jd254 suggested and I didn't get the phantom touches. I'm assuming it is the tempered glass that is causing it. I dont want to remove it cause it cost me 40 bucks.
2nd update: so I tried taking it out of the dual screen case and notice it doesn't have phantom touch ( I played a full game of battle royale) so I'm not sure if its the tempered glass or the case. Need to investigate more
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Is the case touching the tempered glass anywhere around the the edges? If the case is pressing on the screen protector and lifting or peessing it even the smallest amount that could cause phantom touches maybe..just an idea
FWIW, I'm using both a tempered glass screen protector and a case that wraps around to grip the front of the phone a bit, and I'm not getting any phantom touches at all.
The case is NOT rubbing up against the edges of the screen protector, however. Which is fine, because if it were, it could potentially dislodge it.
Or, I suppose, cause phantom touches.
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Is the case touching the tempered glass anywhere around the the edges? If the case is pressing on the screen protector and lifting or peessing it even the smallest amount that could cause phantom touches maybe..just an idea
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Ok more investigating and playing codm I notice that the mini map opens up when i perform a touch combination with my thumbs. So the map gets triggered when I press and hold up on the left side virtual joystick to sprint and press the jump virtual button on the right simultaneously. I can't recreate what button presses open the voice chat box, but now I have to strike the dual case as being the problem along with the tempered glass, at least i assume those aren't causing the ghost touches.
For anyone having touch issues, as a troubleshooting aid: enable developer options, and then toggle on "Show touches" and "Show touch data". Might help figure out what is going on.
bilbo60 said:
For anyone having touch issues, as a troubleshooting aid: enable developer options, and then toggle on "Show touches" and "Show touch data". Might help figure out what is going on.
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Awesome thanks I forgot how to enable developer options...
Never mind developer option enabled
bilbo60 said:
For anyone having touch issues, as a troubleshooting aid: enable developer options, and then toggle on "Show touches" and "Show touch data". Might help figure out what is going on.
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I'm getting VERY interesting results.
1. dead spots: I moved my finger up the right side of the screen to look up. my character did not look up, which I would assume there was a dead spot before. This is incorrect. I can see the screen registered using that option mentioned above. the screen registered the action, but didn't pass it to the software?
2. FPS drops: I assume it's an FPS drop because everything was laggy when this happened. (PubG mobile was set to max settings, and runs 100% fine, until now) I was flying the helicopter, so I had several fingers on the screen at the same time, with a lot of rotational movements. the screen doesn't clear all of these movement data until I literally take all my fingers off the screen for half a sec. When I did that, it stop lagging.
3. ghost touches: Each touch on the screen has an x and y axis point to tell the software where it's being touched. With several finger on the screen (sometimes 2, but commonly with three or more), I noticed that the y axis for my left thumb and the x axis for my right thumb was creating those ghost touches! The screen would combine the x and y axis from different fingers to create a touchpoint on the screen.
so I don't care too much about 1 and 2, but... what can I do about 3?
jd254 said:
I'm getting VERY interesting results.
1. dead spots: I moved my finger up the right side of the screen to look up. my character did not look up, which I would assume there was a dead spot before. This is incorrect. I can see the screen registered using that option mentioned above. the screen registered the action, but didn't pass it to the software?
2. FPS drops: I assume it's an FPS drop because everything was laggy when this happened. (PubG mobile was set to max settings, and runs 100% fine, until now) I was flying the helicopter, so I had several fingers on the screen at the same time, with a lot of rotational movements. the screen doesn't clear all of these movement data until I literally take all my fingers off the screen for half a sec. When I did that, it stop lagging.
3. ghost touches: Each touch on the screen has an x and y axis point to tell the software where it's being touched. With several finger on the screen (sometimes 2, but commonly with three or more), I noticed that the y axis for my left thumb and the x axis for my right thumb was creating those ghost touches! The screen would combine the x and y axis from different fingers to create a touchpoint on the screen.
so I don't care too much about 1 and 2, but... what can I do about 3?
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Yeah I noticed a combination of touches triggers the ghost touch on call of duty, I could also be having the combinations trigger ghost touches in other game but I need to test more

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