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Hi all, since i heard the new xperia arc has its multitouch and 32fps cap removed, will the gingerbread upgrade come with it too? Will it also have a different kernal to allow wifi tethering? Will we also have like 16M colours?
I hope this would all happen
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I don't know about the others but I'm pretty sure we will get the fps unlock. I would be stupid for se to lock it again
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who knows? Anyone giving opinion here will be providing that, simply opinion. No one has any idea what the update will provide, as the press releases were very vague. Time will tell, I suppose.
fiscidtox said:
who knows? Anyone giving opinion here will be providing that, simply opinion. No one has any idea what the update will provide, as the press releases were very vague. Time will tell, I suppose.
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Yep! Agreed!
And if you wanna stay on top of this gingerbread release follow Rikard Skogberg over at the official SE blog. He updates with new posts often, and when more news comes about what the X10 will and will not get with the gingerbread release you'll probably get it there first.
The only 2 things id like to see are 16m colors and 32fps unlocked. Oh, and hopefully they leave the EV control on the stock camera.
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that person unkownx13 usually gave us some clues, someone should maybe pm them?!
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gingerbread in Q2/Q3 for X10 was planed not to impact ARC phone sale, given, clearing for X10 phone, without gingerbread, handly will ever clearing up the remining stock X10.
gingerbread already running with ARC, I do not see SE not able to deliever it, in my view, mostly, X10 gingerbread upgrade will end up same spec function with ARC. Also will never unlock bootloader to ensure, no impact to ARC sale business.
regards
James
that depends if the boot loader gets cracked / sony unlocks the bootloaders
For all I know, I love this phone but all that keeps it down us the sluggy touchscreen due to the 32FPS cap and I hate it.
The colors would be good also.
multitouch was said to be impossible due to the screens structure, but in the update I would hope also that the dualtouch isn't add pathetic as it is now.
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wifi tethering for sure as we can do that even now with apps like barnacle
and 32 fps cap would most probably removed..
but i am doubtful about 16M colors and unlocked bootloader
I just want root access in the gingerbread update.!
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The modification on the camera department makes me worry that we will loose the goodies of the camera . But only time can tell what comes in and what goes out.
Hopefully the devs come up with a 2.3 mod so we don't lose the features.
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A modified GB kernal would kick ass.
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The kernel for the 2.3.2 update should be 2.6.32pref9,the very same to the present kernel in the new Xperia products....
32fpscaps removal do not have too much hope.....SE will never give them such crisis.If we get it removed,most of us will keep our phone longer....They need people to butly their 3rd gan. Android phones.
Cheers,
L
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Im pretty sure sony will modify the x10 add here in Australia, and I suppose other countries, the x10 is quite popular and common, and I do not think that a lot of people have heard of the Xperia arc yet.
The contract plan area here is almost dominated by there x10 and Iphone.
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Is there a reason why the X10 comes with the 32 fps cap? Is it for battery life?
Yes,there is a reason.
The reason is that SE think that we will buy their new product by locking our phone
Cheers,
L
pngface said:
Is there a reason why the X10 comes with the 32 fps cap? Is it for battery life?
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aR_ChRiS said:
I just want root access in the gingerbread update.!
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Lol, I'm moving to Official GB, root or no root
Finally it will be possible to root
JingleJo said:
I hope this would all happen
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I hope so!
16M colors, 32FPS cap removed and the same speed as the Arc gingerbread and I won't really mind not having rooting access for a while. That's all I want.
Anyone planning on moving to the ARC now that it has Root??
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festa20 said:
Anyone planning on moving to the ARC now that it has Root??
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buddy who dont wanna move to arc..? lol..
Actually the neo will be better despite a smaller screen. It'll have a front camera and a music player with an equalizer for bass boosting (which I cant live without). Otherwise, it's the
Same phone. Though me personally ill be getting an optimus 3d because when my upgrade will be available, xda will be well equipped for it.
From my X10a running CM 6.1.3 by Wolfbreak and Swype Keyboard
this might imply that we will have an easier root method for our x10s when the 2.3.3 update comes =D
kaisan1 said:
buddy who dont wanna move to arc..? lol..
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I don't... There are much better phones out there. The arc is a huge step backwards
fiscidtox said:
I don't... There are much better phones out there. The arc is a huge step backwards
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I think that is a bit harsh. OK it may not be a big step forward from the X10 but it is better and is 'only' a mid range phone.
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I don't... There are much better phones out there. The arc is a huge step backwards
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kudos to that too. Sony Ericsson has tried hard to make a good phone. but this year dual core android phones will dominate. With that said, I will still get the Xperia Arc if i can find a good deal.(under $500) Can't complain about the SE interface. =) With that said i'm very excited for the X10 gingerbread release and unlocking the bootloader. Hopefully we can utilize the full potential of the phone.
Well I just love the looks and design of it
Personally I just want to own it!!
And specs of the arc a lil better so I think once there are more devs for the arc then the development will be more progressive than the X10
It will be in my hands in the coming month or two
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as the title says......can we port ROMs of other QVGA ANDROID devices to our minis???...like HTC WILDFIRE ROMs??!!!....i have absolutely no idea bout dis, and any lead will be awesome because i was checking the wildfire forum and saw they have some nice ROMs which can even look good on our x10 mini/mini pro...sorry if i am reposting, i searched our forum, but did not find a topic dealing with the same issue
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as the title says......can we port ROMs of other QVGA ANDROID devices to our minis???...like HTC WILDFIRE ROMs??!!!....i have absolutely no idea bout dis, and any lead will be awesome because i was checking the wildfire forum and saw they have some nice ROMs which can even look good on our x10 mini/mini pro...sorry if i am reposting, i searched our forum, but did not find a topic dealing with the same issue
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I have no actual idea, but I think you have just to change the LCD Destiny to 120 (in built.prop) and then resize everything with apktool or apkmanager, in order to make everything look good.
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i don't think so,,that this can be done,,,, because of incompatibility of gsm networks,, go to youtube and search this [[" x10 Mini Pro Custom Rom xWildfirePro 2.1 "]]. and also read comments
try port from htc wildfire, htc click, lg optimus me, lg gt 500\540
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try port from htc wildfire, htc click, lg optimus me, lg gt 500\540
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Paul is right, those phones are most close to ours and most used for porting ROM.
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amendment. amendment. not LG GT500. try port from Galaxy Spica (I5700) or ^^^^
http://goo.gl/ZhyQq - all support devices. (600 MHz)
http://goo.gl/zCBZg - all support devices. (800 MHz)
but in general you can use HDPI firmware. The quality of graphics will be worse.
Whose gona port them then...paulxxx haha no I was using your mini pro rom I thin it was cm7 pro7x, I know you stopped work onit loved it tho..the 1 app I dont like on nearly all roms is the camera ,that has a grey frame making lcd tiny, and anyone kno are the u20i's capable of zoom feature,nt seen 1 yet!
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Whose gona port them then...paulxxx haha no I was using your mini pro rom I thin it was cm7 pro7x, I know you stopped work onit loved it tho..the 1 app I dont like on nearly all roms is the camera ,that has a grey frame making lcd tiny, and anyone kno are the u20i's capable of zoom feature,nt seen 1 yet!
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Yeah, I have fallen in love with paul's ROMs too!
And... Zoom feature is just impossible to our phones. Due to hardware limitations. I cant imagine the camera zooming out of my battery cover! xD
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Zoom is not the hardware, this software
can we port nexus one FW???
so we can get ride of SE and enjoy the stock google look
i try it but it don't want to work for me^^
flex96 cpu arch. mismatch
i played around with a wildfire ROM and got it ported (well, almost ) ....i think i will get a successful port with a few more tries!!!!...in the mean tym, i screwed mah cell 4 tymz today (a record for me )..everytym da flashtool saved me
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Zoom is not the hardware, this software
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Are you sure??????????? :O
When focusing, camera zooms a little bit, I don't think it can zoom more. Even if it is software related, again I believe it won't work...
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leajian said:
Are you sure??????????? :O
When focusing, camera zooms a little bit, I don't think it can zoom more. Even if it is software related, again I believe it won't work...
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no man, zoomin is hardware, software zooming has a lot of pixelpeeping, sonot really a good idea....it would be better if you zoom in and crop for getting a bigger pic
use camera zoom pro
Thanks to The_Laser, Zdzihu, TripNRaVeR, DooMLoRD and so many other great developers, some of us have fantastic ROMs.
For example, my Rachael with hundred of installed applications is very very very fast, has a originally hotter chipset but even so now is really cold (even in the Brazilian hottest weather), has plenty of free memory, is fps-uncapped, no battery drainer, can download Arc plus apps and games in the Play/Market and run them with no lags, has Bravia Engine enabled, hyperstereo hi-fi smart bass sound, many launchers enabled at start screen, many themes etc.
We have almost all the things that a 2010 mobile should have, except for our big but ugly display.
It's true that every time someone think about the 16M colors display, always appears a half dozen of people saying that nobody can see the difference between 16 colors and 16M colors, that our mobiles would be slowed, that it is impossible or very difficult to do it, etc.
So I'm appealing to our good hackers. We need a super developer to change our display driver (maybe there is a good one in another SE mobile), or try another thing to make our experience with our Rachael so complete and beautiful as it could be.
So, if you can, please, help us.
Ambitious, but nice!
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Nobody can help us.
Dude i asked some of my friends that is so excellent when it comes in developing.. i do asked them for their opinions about our device x10 if it can have multi touch up to 10 fingers supported, 16M colors, 100% working bravia engine and other features that we need..
They said its possible to have it and specs of the device is good and not bad the way others are thinking.. its just that we need new drivers and libs to make it work.. if a developer is so kind and not doing work for money then our device will make it but it needs time.. it wont be so hard unless lot of devs will work into it and spend time into it not thinking about money.. sony ericsson or rather sony didnt release an ics for x10 because there are many new released devices and its an advantage for them not to release ics because they know that we will gonna buy new devices sooner or later due to frustration..also porting of kernels from 2011 and 2012 devices is a factor.. they also said that devs like them will not face a hard time dealing with that because x10 is old and also lacking of support.. they can choose s2 or xperia s which is a powerful device and its easy for them to make such developments and wuala!!!.. they make greater amount of money in no time..
The only way to get it is to ask great devs about it.. the concern that all of this things are needed for our device and we must have to pay them thousands of cash to get their attention and have their effort working in our beloved device.. that way x10 will have new life..
For all who will read this and might be offended.. this is not my opinion.. it is some of my friends i think true and reasonable opinion..
So think of it.. pay the devs thousand and lots of money to make it fully work or buy yourself a new device?.. make sense isnt it?...
Please press THANKS Button if I helped you.. cheers..
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Multitouch with more than 2 fingers=hardware limitation
16M colors=hardware limitation
Bravia engine needs 16M colors to work properly. And its not my opinion, its fact.
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x10
and xloud?
Break all the limitations! Make 16M and Bravia!
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Limited Hardware?
neoxx3m said:
Multitouch with more than 2 fingers=hardware limitation
16M colors=hardware limitation
Bravia engine needs 16M colors to work properly. And its not my opinion, its fact.
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Are you sure about the 16M colors hardware limitation? I wish to know exactly what was the limitation...
Who knows if it is our LCD, the clock or the memory that doesn't support 16 M?
Andre Verissimo said:
Are you sure about the 16M colors hardware limitation? I wish to know exactly what was the limitation...
Who knows if it is our LCD, the clock or the memory that doesn't support 16 M?
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OK, i have research about x10 screen, it is capable show 16M colors after all but Im not sure why sony did not enable it with 2.1/2.3 update.
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OK, i have research about x10 screen, it is capable show 16M colors after all but Im not sure why sony did not enable it with 2.1/2.3 update.
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Me too. When I see other mobiles beautiful screens, I can't understand why our good old X10 can't do what they do.
Andre Verissimo said:
Me too. When I see other mobiles beautiful screens, I can't understand why our good old X10 can't do what they do.
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16M colors would be a bad idea because with the 600K the phone tries to melt itself. My phone sometimes reaches 40c!. So it probably for the best.
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My opinion is that its not necessary to have 16m colours, even if its nice, but it would influence the battery drain and may create graphic errors, at least at the beginning of development... I always loved.the look of my screen (espescially in miui <3) and 16m colours would be more beautiful for sure, But we dont need it at all. It is just like Ice cream Sandwich, but if you could make a developer keen on that 16M colours.... you know what i mean maybe feravolt or achotjan or vashishta are ablw to do it, so we would have to make them believing in it
And then it will work, and i would also like to see my screen like that, but not if it means to have a heater and batterywaster at the same time...
Greets
ps a lonely opinion between those facts and.its not even a clear position
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HTC HD7 has the same chipset and gpu as Xperia X10.. and it has 16M colors display..
Please press my THANKS Button if i helped you..cheers.
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You guys don't care about the 16 million colors because, well you haven't experienced beautiful colored screens
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I have a psvita with a mothe****n great screen
I just dont know why i need it at my phone? its nice but ok... we can ask fera when hes gettin no more ideas how to improve his ics rom
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Anybody thought of android in iPhone.
We should start Developement for iphones also.
amartyarishi said:
Anybody thought of android in iPhone.
We should start Developement for iphones also.
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No, we can't develop for it cuz IPhone is designed for ios and if android is developed for iPhone then I think Apple would sue the developer ( not sure though ). We can't develop properly for it, we need proper packages, omx codecs ,proper libs. Finding or writing omx codecs is difficult job cuz there is difficulty in finding proper omx libs for android phones! How can we find for iPhone???
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I know its very difficult...but if we try...it will be possible...I have googled it any many say that its possible but a bit tough and risky...for we need jailbreaking iOS....which is easy...then need to put our brains and start the Developement.
Well, you'd need proper drivers; either you get them from Apple or you're building them yourself (which is a real pain).
You'd also need to somehow get the Android kernel in there, which is also a pain, since ... well, it just is...
It's tricky, but I've seen a pair of iPhone 4s with Android on, i just don't know where and when...
Though Android still RULZ
Well it will be.difficult....but i have seen people using android iphone...i know we cant make a perfect rom but still we can make a compatible rom
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Don’t forget, judging by all lawsuits (Apple vs the world) no body can develop anything similar to their products or use their products, whilst they continue to freely, so called, “innovate” what android been doing for years (i.e. “pull down notification” blatant copy).
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The first jailbreaker got job in apple inc.
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The first jailbreaker got job in apple inc.
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That's one in a million.
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Back in like ios 2 or earlier they used to have android in cydia....And,even then thr marker didnt work...
But as everyones saying...due to the fact that apple keeps everything clised source, sues everyone, and puts in a ton of security...it would be extremely hard and take months if not years...by the time we got it going for one there would be a new one...we hav no source to work with
The people that actually deveolp stock roms get paid and work in large teams and also have degrees in this sort of thing...its there job -and it still takes them about a year to release
Now look at us xda people...some of us,may have degrees in development. But many of us,are self taught. On top of that we all have a life outside of xda...jobs, family friends...so we really dont have that much time to work on stuff. Last...we are not paid...we do it cause we enjoy it...but i dont think anyone would enjoy building android for iphone simply cause you would pretty much have to creaye your own drivers and libs
So sorry to burst your bubble...but i dont see this ever hapoening. The end product isnt worth the work, not to mention the lawsuits apple is famous for...
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Anybody thought of android in iPhone.
We should start Developement for iphones also.
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The fine people of idroidproject.org have been working on this for quite a while now. Since the iPhone 3g came out. And they still don't have all the "drivers" necessary.
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Well it will be.difficult....but i have seen people using android iphone...i know we cant make a perfect rom but still we can make a compatible rom
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Most probably you had seen the GooPhone which is a clone of iPhone and is heavily themed to look as iOS interface which runs android as the OS.
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Most probably you had seen the GooPhone which is a clone of iPhone and is heavily themed to look as iOS interface which runs android as the OS.
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No what i have seen was a iphone 4 with android 2.3.
It was just a basic phone coz many things didn't worked like accelerometer,gyro,gps,wlan..and except these everything was working well.
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i dont think it would make much sense. iphone has a processor about 800 mhz right? it wont create a performance thats near to any androidphone, it would probably lose against my x10 with 1ghz and 384 mb ram.... Maybe one could build donut or froyo for it andbthat would also run like it should after two years in development or so, but who would use it (you wouldnt by an iphone if android was on it, because any androidphone would give better performance for lower price, so you buy it because it works better than android and, oh yes, the apple...) I think it would be much cooler to port ios to work on androidphones, soon, when apple "invented" all features of android, it will still have the better performance, thet even hardest androidfans have to see.
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Here is a project that is working on exactly this:
www(dot)idroidproject(dot)org/
(I'm still a new user, obviously replace dot with .)
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i dont think it would make much sense. iphone has a processor about 800 mhz right? it wont create a performance thats near to any androidphone, it would probably lose against my x10 with 1ghz and 384 mb ram.... Maybe one could build donut or froyo for it andbthat would also run like it should after two years in development or so, but who would use it (you wouldnt by an iphone if android was on it, because any androidphone would give better performance for lower price, so you buy it because it works better than android and, oh yes, the apple...) I think it would be much cooler to port ios to work on androidphones, soon, when apple "invented" all features of android, it will still have the better performance, thet even hardest androidfans have to see.
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Yeah your idea is brilliant....porting iOS on android...it will be awesome but from we will get the system dump files of iOS????
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Clethan said:
Here is a project that is working on exactly this:
www(dot)idroidproject(dot)org/
(I'm still a new user, obviously replace dot with .)
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Dude you may not post external links on xda..okay
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Yeah your idea is brilliant....porting iOS on android...it will be awesome but from we will get the system dump files of iOS????
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lol thats the problem
Greets
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Yeah your idea is brilliant....porting iOS on android...it will be awesome but from we will get the system dump files of iOS????
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It's a lawsuit waiting to happen though...apple would shut it down the moment they heard of it...
iOS is closed source...that being said it requires permission to work with it. With out permission you are illegally working on it. It would not be allowed on xda due to lack of permission...
As for porting android to iPhone...as I said earlier I don't see that happening either...there's not enough demand and we have no drivers/proprietary files to work with
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Just to say someone would do it for sure, maybe he would give the project on and on but it ciuld.never be distributed in internet. I would say Someone could look in ios files and "invent" some things similar to port into android, but it wouldnt be supported or in any kind makin sense. btw im just lookin up a friend and buy his old iphone 3g to try that out
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Just to say someone would do it for sure, maybe he would give the project on and on but it ciuld.never be distributed in internet. I would say Someone could look in ios files and "invent" some things similar to port into android, but it wouldnt be supported or in any kind makin sense. btw im just lookin up a friend and buy his old iphone 3g to try that out
Greets
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Same here brotha..... I m buying an old one for that....
Thanks
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