I'm not a fan of doing spam threads.
But I was wondering.. our dev's are really badass&awesome.
I'm a big fan of our X10 & tried many ROMs (android 2.2, MIUI, SDK 3.0 etc.)
And I was wondering, if is possible to make a WP7 version for X10.
So for dev's, please make my wish come true
iMatth3w said:
I'm not a fan of doing spam threads.
But I was wondering.. our dev's are really badass&awesome.
I'm a big fan of our X10 & tried many ROMs (android 2.2, MIUI, SDK 3.0 etc.)
And I was wondering, if is possible to make a WP7 version for X10.
So for dev's, please make my wish come true
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I am not a developer, but I think I can safely say that
this is definitely not possible at the moment
and probably it will never be possible.
There are hardware restrictions as well as software.
Plus, the most important: the locked bootloader makes it all the more improbable.
Remember: it's been by-passed, not unlocked.
I hope we will see WP7 on our X10 in the future
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I hope we will see WP7 on our X10 in the future
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As I said, I wouldn't count on that.
But I am sure that even more great phones with WP7 will show up in the future,
so you could easily jump ship and get "the full experience".
My_Immortal said:
As I said, I wouldn't count on that.
But I am sure that even more great phones with WP7 will show up in the future,
so you could easily jump ship and get "the full experience".
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It's this kind of negative attitude that makes everything seem bleak.
I'm sure one day the bootloader will be cracked or unlocked.
OmegaRED^ said:
It's this kind of negative attitude that makes everything seem bleak.
I'm sure one day the bootloader will be cracked or unlocked.
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Can't wait for that day!
The bootloader loads the operating system. So a cracked bootloader will be needed to be able to load windows phone 7.
OmegaRED^ said:
It's this kind of negative attitude that makes everything seem bleak.
I'm sure one day the bootloader will be cracked or unlocked.
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I am not being negative in any way.
I've had this phone for one year now
and I've watched the developers' effort to crack the
bootloader very closely.
The by-pass was a great achievement and most of the
developer's are working on these terms now,
a few if none are still trying for a complete crack.
That's realistic, not negative.
Besides, even if the bootloader actually gets cracked,
still the answer to the OP's question would probably still be NO.
Adjusting and configuring a totally different OS to run on a device
that initially ran another is pretty difficult and even if it can be done,
I am not sure if any developer would go through the trouble.
But since you asked for positivity instead of a reasonable answer,
I am changing mine to:
"YES! Of course this is possible, anything is possible!
Sit back and wait for the bootloader to be cracked.
Shouldn't take too long now! We are almost there!!!
WOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!
*birds, butterflies, rainbows and a thousand happy smilies*"
you killed me there.
@My_Immortal
*cough* HD2 *cough*
Adolf1994 said:
@My_Immortal
*cough* HD2 *cough*
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*cough* one phone made it *cough* hundreds of others didn't *cough*
All I am saying is that the answer at the moment is no.
And it doesn't look all that good about the future.
Is really all I'm saying. I would like to be proven wrong, of course.
It would be actually one of the few times that I'd actually enjoy it!
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hello everybody =) i wonder, can we somehow install windows mobile 7 os on the x10 mini?? because I really love the UI and all the rest of this os...I just installed an app which makes the home screen look like the wm7 one but I really want to "wipe out" android =) any suggestion?
Beggy90 said:
hello everybody =) i wonder, can we somehow install windows mobile 7 os on the x10 mini?? because I really love the UI and all the rest of this os...I just installed an app which makes the home screen look like the wm7 one but I really want to "wipe out" android =) any suggestion?
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I don't have the technical expertise to rule it out completely, but seeing as the MINIMUM hardware requirements for WP7 are far above the Mini's capabilities, I'd say it's extremely unlikely.
[email protected] said:
I don't have the technical expertise to rule it out completely, but seeing as the MINIMUM hardware requirements for WP7 are far above the Mini's capabilities, I'd say it's extremely unlikely.
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Many said that even android 2.3 wouldn't run on x10 mini/x8 but there are lots of roms =) the fact is different though, I know....if I know how to compile a wm7 rom I would do it by myself but I don't have such knowledge =)
Beggy90 said:
Many said that even android 2.3 wouldn't run on x10 mini/x8 but there are lots of roms =) the fact is different though, I know....if I know how to compile a wm7 rom I would do it by myself but I don't have such knowledge =)
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I think that had more to do with SE totally locking down the bootloader than hardware requirements. Could be wrong though.
In any case, if it can be made to work, it only results in more options for us, which is always a good thing IMO. So here's hoping...
Food for thought: Adobe has made it so their Flash player only works on ARM7+ chips. Wonder if MS has/can do the same? Wouldn't that totally lock us out?
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I think that had more to do with SE totally locking down the bootloader than hardware requirements. Could be wrong though.
In any case, if it can be made to work, it only results in more options for us, which is always a good thing IMO. So here's hoping...
Food for thought: Adobe has made it so their Flash player only works on ARM7+ chips. Wonder if MS has/can do the same? Wouldn't that totally lock us out?
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nono he is right they said the mini's hardware wasn't good enough
and no we cant have WP7 we have locked bootloader
sooooo..... for now when we have unlocked bootloader what about WP7 on our phones? is that possible for now?
But the bootloaders were unlocked (unofficially) on here...what's missing? I don't get it...
phoneyericsson said:
But the bootloaders were unlocked (unofficially) on here...what's missing? I don't get it...
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I think (but I`m not an expert, I`m not even a developer) that our phone has too weak parameters. But somebody could try it and let us know how it works or even not works.
After using android, why jump?
Now that the bootloader has been bypassed. Is it possible to port wp7 os on our device?
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Justinhopaolo said:
Now that the bootloader has been bypassed. Is it possible to port wp7 os on our device?
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Nup, im wrong. It is possible if someone wants to waste their time doing it.
I'm not gonna use even if they do it.
And you should know, such a question does not belong in Xperia X10 Android Development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254680
your Q is need to be on the Q&A section..
btw.. its possible..
It's possible but it requires lots of time, energy and of course, dedication. You need to rewrite most of the libs and modules, drivers, etc.
u can have wp7 . but truth is no one will ever spend so much time to write the libs and modules since x10 is almost a dying phone ( actually i can say its already dead) and little dev support. there are only 5-6 devs here.
HTC desire HD doenst have wp7 port yet , and there are countless amount of devs there. so basically u will never have a wp7 port. so stop expecting.
one word answer. YES. NOT
post in the right thread and ull get proper answer
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there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
Yes or no
Theoretically, its possible.
Our spec are quite near to HD2
But, who wanna waste time and resources in porting WP7
ishunz said:
Yes or no
Theoretically, its possible.
Our spec are quite near to HD2
But, who wanna waste time and resources in porting WP7
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so is pretty much every other phone released at that time
The hd2 had all the drivers from wm6.5....
this is NEVER going to happen.
All you n00bs should go back to n00bland and stop wasting everyones time
scoobysnacks said:
there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
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Your wrong about the sense thing straight away. One of my mates is port sense right now as we speak and he has got it to boot on my x10 so the sense. Not saying its going to work but the fact he got it to boot is the main thing. All there is now is to get everything working again.
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sammyjc89 said:
Your wrong about the sense thing straight away. One of my mates is port sense right now as we speak and he has got it to boot on my x10 so the sense. Not saying its going to work but the fact he got it to boot is the main thing. All there is now is to get everything working again.
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yes it has been ported to other phones too, but never fully working. That is with hundreds of developers too, and they ended up giving up.
Go look at sgs forums, etc...
A bunch of non-devs talking about how we are going to get all these awesome roms suddenly ported
good luck guys!
scoobysnacks said:
there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
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That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this.
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yes it has been ported to other phones too, but never fully working. That is with hundreds of developers too, and they ended up giving up.
Go look at sgs forums, etc...
A bunch of non-devs talking about how we are going to get all these awesome roms suddenly ported
good luck guys!
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Actually they are still working it right now as I have the nexus s and I use the nexus sense on my phone also the dens in the sgs forums having been working real hard on and I know that because I talk to the devs working on the port. We now have data, bt, WiFi, video is bot laggy and that's what they are fixing right now. Not far to go if you ask me. Also that looks to me that they haven't given up.
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Actually they are still working it right now as I have the nexus s and I use the nexus sense on my phone also the dens in the sgs forums having been working real hard on and I know that because I talk to the devs working on the port. We now have data, bt, WiFi, video is bot laggy and that's what they are fixing right now. Not far to go if you ask me. Also that looks to me that they haven't given up.
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link me to them
I will say though that sense is more feasible than wp7 that's for sure..
though it is still an insane amount of work.
sense has such a complicated framework it needs in order to function properly.
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
nanodroid said:
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
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so what you think starting threads like this in the development section is ok?
Oh Yeah you wanted ios lol ...
attack of the noobs!
p.s. the best wp7 launcher is called launcher7
nanodroid said:
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
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Big thanks for understanding my point for this thread
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scoobysnacks said:
so what you think starting threads like this in the development section is ok?
Oh Yeah you wanted ios lol ...
attack of the noobs!
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No.I think it would be in the wrong section.
And I didn't want ios, I asked if it could be done and as I said, just for asking.If you read the threads well instead of turning negative with your 'attack the noobs' thinking..
Any CM7 news for X2?
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/24376-motorola-droid-x2-mb870/page__p__227934
Nothing new.
Not until we unlock the bootloader...
Probably nothing especially since the bionic has come out. DX2 has always been the Red Headed Step Child.
quadjacks said:
Probably nothing especially since the bionic has come out. DX2 has always been the Red Headed Step Child.
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And once the Prime and Vigor come out....wait what phone are we talking about?!
SwiftLegend said:
Not until we unlock the bootloader...
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That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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The 'locked bootloader' response is pretty standard on this, and it's getting annoying.
Original X= locked bootloader = CM7
However (I may be wrong) didn't they get CM7 to work by using a dev X? Figured out some way to use 2nd-init after playing with a fully unlocked X? I remember reading something like that...
mostKnownUnknown said:
That's not true. CM7 for the DX1 works with a locked bootloader and 2nd-init. DX1 CM7 also only works right now with a Froyo kernel. It should not be impossible now that we have 2nd-init with GB.
Did anyone ask who was actually working on it? I remember the name "dragonzkiller" thrown around but nothing seemed to have come from it. If he isn't, did anyone actually start up the project again? I hate this idea of asking "what the status?" without asking "who is working on it?" and "can we help out?"
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
mistawolfe said:
The 'locked bootloader' response is pretty standard on this, and it's getting annoying.
Original X= locked bootloader = CM7
However (I may be wrong) didn't they get CM7 to work by using a dev X? Figured out some way to use 2nd-init after playing with a fully unlocked X? I remember reading something like that...
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That wouldn't make any sense. If you are unlocked, you wouldn't need 2nd-init since you have complete access to the first init. Also, they had to pull a number of modifications to get the Froyo kernel to work on the CM7 GB base. If you are unlocked, you shouldn't need to do all that work. You would've just flashed the latest and greatest kernel.
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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True. But my feeling right now is that we have no idea at the phone's base performance with all of the Moto blur running on top of it. I'd like to see at least one pure AOSP ROM to see where we are at.
Plus more flashing options are good and CM7 is not a bad option.
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That wouldn't make any sense. If you are unlocked, you wouldn't need 2nd-init since you have complete access to the first init. Also, they had to pull a number of modifications to get the Froyo kernel to work on the CM7 GB base. If you are unlocked, you shouldn't need to do all that work. You would've just flashed the latest and greatest kernel.
True. But my feeling right now is that we have no idea at the phone's base performance with all of the Moto blur running on top of it. I'd like to see at least one pure AOSP ROM to see where we are at.
Plus more flashing options are good and CM7 is not a bad option.
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My message came out wrong.
I always ask the same thing, "Why can they figure out CM on an X but not an X2?" - and someone told me they learned from an unlocked developer device what it would take to make it run on a standard locked X. Basically the ones engineers get.
This was the answer I got in a forum, so I guess I should take it with a grain of salt, but that's what I read.
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That being said, you will wind up with a CM7 that has no custom kernel. Nothing wrong with that, but it's kinda half assed if you ask me. Basically like installing a theme + apps and debloating. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's why I responded with "Not until unlocked bootloader"
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That's why I responded with "Not until unlocked bootloader"
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Not to offend you because I don't really even know you, but I think this highlights a problem in our community.
I think our community has an awful mentality. There are too many people who say they want something without really knowing what to do to get it, let alone have the initiative to get it. I think the biggest problem in the community is our lack of devs. Most of them don't even own this phone. Yet we somehow expect good ROMs to appear overnight and when we don't get them, we blame Moto and VZW for all our problems. Really? Say we get a bootloader unlock at the end of this year. Do we really expect devs to come to our phone in droves with all the LTE goodness in everyone's road map? Really? If we want CM7 on our phone, how about we work on a 2nd-init version today so if we get unlocked, it takes a few weeks for a kernel-enhanced CM7 instead of a few months.
I want us to change our mentality to doers instead of winers. So much time is wasted on flaming Moto and VZW and wining about our phone instead of something constructive. Take the initiative people. You want a ROM that does X, Y, Z? How about you learn how to make that ROM. Don't know how to make a ROM? Ask Nitro. Ask navenedrob. Go and ask someone who knows to help. If someone else has a ROM with the same idea, pair up and become a team. You want a kernel to overclock? Learn about kexec and how to get that to work. Learn about our bootloader and possible ways to crack it. There are so many ways to contribute to this community yet soo many people love to post in the "state of our crappy phone" thread. Seriously. Take the initiative people.
Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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if i knew what to do id totally help. ive wanted to get into android development for a while just never had a device until a few weeks ago
mostKnownUnknown said:
Not to offend you because I don't really even know you, but I think this highlights a problem in our community.
I think our community has an awful mentality. There are too many people who say they want something without really knowing what to do to get it, let alone have the initiative to get it. I think the biggest problem in the community is our lack of devs. Most of them don't even own this phone. Yet we somehow expect good ROMs to appear overnight and when we don't get them, we blame Moto and VZW for all our problems. Really? Say we get a bootloader unlock at the end of this year. Do we really expect devs to come to our phone in droves with all the LTE goodness in everyone's road map? Really? If we want CM7 on our phone, how about we work on a 2nd-init version today so if we get unlocked, it takes a few weeks for a kernel-enhanced CM7 instead of a few months.
I want us to change our mentality to doers instead of winers. So much time is wasted on flaming Moto and VZW and wining about our phone instead of something constructive. Take the initiative people. You want a ROM that does X, Y, Z? How about you learn how to make that ROM. Don't know how to make a ROM? Ask Nitro. Ask navenedrob. Go and ask someone who knows to help. If someone else has a ROM with the same idea, pair up and become a team. You want a kernel to overclock? Learn about kexec and how to get that to work. Learn about our bootloader and possible ways to crack it. There are so many ways to contribute to this community yet soo many people love to post in the "state of our crappy phone" thread. Seriously. Take the initiative people.
Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Agree. I would try helping with development if I knew how. I'd have to go learn Java now and who knows how long that will take. I was only saying that we needed an unlocked bootloader because you know that people are going to complain that we have CM7 (theoretically) but no custom kernel. You know how many headaches that would cause just from reading a bunch of threads full of complaints...
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Now that I got that out. Is anyone still working on a DX2 CM7? If not what, do we need to do to get that started up again if someone wants it?
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Someone named dragonzkiller is who your looking for...just posted in the development section that he's still trying to get it going...
Now that an unlocked bootloader is an option, do you think the Rezound will ever get S-OFF?
For most, it seems that foregoing a warranty and unlocking the bootloader through htcdev doesn't present any issues. But many of us simply don't want to get exposed to that risk.
Question came up in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22105407#post22105407
We already have permanent root. Are you talking about S-OFF?
From the Rez Beast
GordoGuapo said:
We already have permanent root. Are you talking about S-OFF?
From the Rez Beast
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Talking about the ability to load a ROM.
SamXp said:
Talking about the ability to load a ROM.
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really? do you not see the 10 ROMS listed in the same section that you posted incorrectly in?
the rezound is/was rooted like 2 months ago
SamXp said:
Talking about the ability to load a ROM.
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If you read the forum your in you would know we already can load ROMS and kernels, we just can't touch radios
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SamXp said:
Talking about the ability to load a ROM.
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well as to whether or you will be able to ever root your phone with htc dev unlock....probably not
it didnt seem like there was a huge effort made to s-off the rezound prior to unlock (aside from evil fake dev null's bs)
now that there is a way to flash roms, i doubt anyone is bothering
hopefully this is not the future of htc devices on vzw going forward, as personally ive used og inc and inc2 fully s-off and would probably think twice is my next htc phone was dev unlock only
but this should be in general anyway, not development
Obviously, ROM's are available.
Obviously, you can flash them with an unlocked bootloader.
If you don't unlock the bootloader, you are saying there is a Root method available that will allow you to flash a ROM?
SamXp said:
Obviously, ROM's are available.
Obviously, you can flash them with an unlocked bootloader.
If you don't unlock the bootloader, you are saying there is a Root method available that will allow you to flash a ROM?
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No. Why would you think that was on option? Just unlock the effing bootloader. There will probably never be s-off.
tekhna said:
No. Why would you think that was on option? Just unlock the effing bootloader. There will probably never be s-off.
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Because that has been the case for every phone I've owned. Did you even take the time to read the original post? Maybe my English wasn't plain enough? Unlocking the bootloader simply isn't an option for some people.
SamXp said:
Because that has been the case for every phone I've owned. Did you even take the time to read the original post? Maybe my English wasn't plain enough? Unlocking the bootloader simply isn't an option for some people.
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Then don't do it. It's that simple.
This isn't every phone you've ever owned. This is the culmination of every HTC phone released for the last few years. They've learned how to plug nearly all, or enough, of the possible exploits to unlock the bootloader while offering a way to unlock it that doesn't require devs beating their heads against a wall, perhaps fruitlessly for months. The devs aren't going to bother, because why would they? HTC's given us a perfectly reasonable way, and credit to them.
The fact is, we simply don't know what will happen to phones returned under warranty. Plenty of people have returned unlocked phones with no problems.
Thank you for your contribution. This is information I would like to have had before buying this phone. Obviously, it is a gamble to unlock. They make it very clear that it voids your warranty. If there are reports of people getting warranty service in spite of the phone being unlocked, then that is pure luck.
Some of us prefer not to rely on luck.
Never imagined I'd see this type of animosity for a simple question. Especially one as important as this, in relation to this phone.
It appears to me that there's not a large quantity of devs supporting this phone. Hopefully more get the Rezound. I came from the AT&T Captivate and there were tons of devs cooking up ROMS for that one. I had always heard that HTC phones had great dev support on XDA so I didnt really do my homework before buying the phone, it was more of an impulse buy once I saw the large beautiful screen.
All I've done so far is unlock and root my phone. Still running stock and so far I like it a lot. Havent really felt the need to drop a different rom on my phone, or even flash a different kernel. One reason I guess is, the phone works really well as-is, and seems like each kernel or other rom seems to have a good many noted issues.
I hope this improves over time. I loved flashing different roms on my Galaxy S and they were extremely high quality with basically no issues at all. Matter of fact I had been running ICS since back in december and using it as my "daily driver" and it worked extremely well. I believe the only issue was it wouldnt do video recording.
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Thank you for your contribution. This is information I would like to have had before buying this phone. Obviously, it is a gamble to unlock. They make it very clear that it voids your warranty. If there are reports of people getting warranty service in spite of the phone being unlocked, then that is pure luck.
Some of us prefer not to rely on luck.
Never imagined I'd see this type of animosity for a simple question. Especially one as important as this, in relation to this phone.
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They make it very clear it MAY void your warranty. Go check the page. Nowhere does it say "your warranty is now void."
I think most of the animosity is from posting about something that has been beaten to death, in the wrong forum.
tekhna said:
No. Why would you think that was on option? Just unlock the effing bootloader. There will probably never be s-off.
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I'm new to HTC phones...but what is S-OFF and what is the difference between that and unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com.
I've unlocked my bootloader, just for the sake of doing it. It was simple. What extra benefits would S-OFF give?
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tekhna said:
They make it very clear it MAY void your warranty. Go check the page. Nowhere does it say "your warranty is now void."
I think most of the animosity is from posting about something that has been beaten to death, in the wrong forum.
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I think the website just says that if you unlock your bootloader HTC may charge you more if you require factory servicing.
tekhna said:
They make it very clear it MAY void your warranty. Go check the page. Nowhere does it say "your warranty is now void."
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Fair enough.
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I think most of the animosity is from posting about something that has been beaten to death, in the wrong forum.
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Help me out here. I've searched about this topic. I referenced the one other thread where the question was asked. There was very little discussion.
S-Off makes it easier to flash kernels and ROMs. You can flash them together with s-off.
This may be a dumb question, but can a Mod please close/move this thread? It's extremely pointless and definitely in the wrong section.
EDIT: and to the OP, THIS is what tekhna is talking about.
derek4484 said:
It appears to me that there's not a large quantity of devs supporting this phone. Hopefully more get the Rezound. I came from the AT&T Captivate and there were tons of devs cooking up ROMS for that one. I had always heard that HTC phones had great dev support on XDA so I didnt really do my homework before buying the phone, it was more of an impulse buy once I saw the large beautiful screen.
All I've done so far is unlock and root my phone. Still running stock and so far I like it a lot. Havent really felt the need to drop a different rom on my phone, or even flash a different kernel. One reason I guess is, the phone works really well as-is, and seems like each kernel or other rom seems to have a good many noted issues.
I hope this improves over time. I loved flashing different roms on my Galaxy S and they were extremely high quality with basically no issues at all. Matter of fact I had been running ICS since back in december and using it as my "daily driver" and it worked extremely well. I believe the only issue was it wouldnt do video recording.
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I'd hoped this would improve, over time, as well. I don't get that impression, judging by the reaction in this thread.
What is ROM? is that an internal component of the phone? Like memory? Is there soldering involved to load a ROM?
WasabiWa83 said:
S-Off makes it easier to flash kernels and ROMs. You can flash them together with s-off.
This may be a dumb question, but can a Mod please close/move this thread? It's extremely pointless and definitely in the wrong section.
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If the thread is in the wrong section - I can see the need to move it. But closing it would prevent would-be buyers from obtaining valuable information that could be critical to their purchase decision. No reason to hide the truth that the Rezound will probably never get S-OFF.
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I'd hoped this would improve, over time, as well. I don't get that impression, judging by the reaction in this thread.
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I think the reaction your getting is because this has been hashed and rehashed alot and putting topics in Development is a big no no . HTC has said they will still honor the warranty related to hardware as long as customizing isn't the cause of the failure..ie overclocking and burning up processor etc.. Verizon is the one that voids the warranty which is understandable after reading the threads of people that do stuff without reading prior to messing with the phone.
http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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zanzee said:
http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
sounds good. can't wait to have it :fingers-crossed:
that would be great to have Ubuntu running naively on the prime!!
I can't wait. Running with chroot and vnc is not the same and it gets sluggish
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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no, they are not similar devices, they share a cpu/gpu combo, that is pretty much the end of it.
One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Most likely yes. Most users looking for Ubuntu are probably unlocked considering that usually flashing anything besides an update requires unlocking.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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I wasn't clear, what I meant is that after canonical's anoncement I heard rumors from random people talking about that. And that always bugged me cuz I couldn't figure out how would they pull that off. But what u said makes more sense.