Which is better/necessary for maintaining max speed and free memory?
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
rlxurmnd said:
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
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You forgot a question mark.
The stock JI6 task manager and a shortcut to "running services". This will show you EXACTLY what's RUNNING on your phone. Key word is running!
rlxurmnd said:
neither, you do not need any type of task killer with android. why do people insist on using these apps.
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Well I don't know why the task related apps exist. If they didn't exist I wouldn't be asking the question.
the one with the JI6 is very useful for me.
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stevenmcneal83 said:
Well I don't know why the task related apps exist. If they didn't exist I wouldn't be asking the question.
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Some devs are stuck with the Windows Mobile mentality that Android requires task managers. Android will free the memory as needed, all you need is the stock J16 task manager if you'd like to close the occasional/accidentally left open app.
You guys are doing a very poor job of answering his question and most of it is misinformation.
Auto Killer is NOT a task killer. It is a memory optimizer. It basically uses the same system that is built into Android and modifies the intervals at which it clears memory. It does not kill tasks unless you specify it to.
For instance, default Vibrant is set to start freeing RAM from "empty" apps at 63 MB of RAM left. Empty apps are apps that have been sitting for awhile, not using cpu and not being used but are stored in RAM. You could see why these apps would be the first to go. Well, with Auto Killer, I can change the threshold to 98 MB so when it drops below that, the Android system frees up RAM from the apps that aren't being used.
Auto Killer is nowhere near the same as a task killer or task manager and it actually benefits your system greatly because it just modifies Android memory management system.
Again, the default Android system ALREADY starts clearing RAM automatically at 63 MB left meaning you will always have at least 63 MB of RAM unless you are using tons of apps at once, since they would all be active and Android will not free RAM from active apps unless you are critically low on memory. I'm talking less than 10MB. I like to have at least 98 MB left though so Auto Killer modifies that. Auto Killer does not modify the way Android handles apps, you just tell it the thresholds and then Android does its thing.
kangxi said:
You guys are doing a very poor job of answering his question and most of it is misinformation.
Auto Killer is NOT a task killer. It is a memory optimizer. It basically uses the same system that is built into Android and modifies the intervals at which it clears memory. It does not kill tasks unless you specify it to.
For instance, default Vibrant is set to start freeing RAM from "empty" apps at 63 MB of RAM left. Empty apps are apps that have been sitting for awhile, not using cpu and not being used but are stored in RAM. You could see why these apps would be the first to go. Well, with Auto Killer, I can change the threshold to 98 MB so when it drops below that, the Android system frees up RAM from the apps that aren't being used.
Auto Killer is nowhere near the same as a task killer or task manager and it actually benefits your system greatly because it just modifies Android memory management system.
Again, the default Android system ALREADY starts clearing RAM automatically at 63 MB left meaning you will always have at least 63 MB of RAM unless you are using tons of apps at once, since they would all be active and Android will not free RAM from active apps unless you are critically low on memory. I'm talking less than 10MB. I like to have at least 98 MB left though so Auto Killer modifies that. Auto Killer does not modify the way Android handles apps, you just tell it the thresholds and then Android does its thing.
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Awesome! Thanks so much for being thorough, I'm kinda new. One more quick question, since auto killer seems to be the best way to manage free memory, do I need to remove the task manager if I plan on using auto killer?
Yes. I use just auto killer. No task killer or anything. If I do need to close an app that is frozen or something, I just use the task manager built-in with JI6. Otherwise, just pressing the back button in 99% of all apps will properly close it.
kangxi said:
Yes. I use just auto killer. No task killer or anything. If I do need to close an app that is frozen or something, I just use the task manager built-in with JI6. Otherwise, just pressing the back button in 99% of all apps will properly close it.
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The built in task manager is the one I was referring to. The one that came included with fusion 1.1. So you currently have both auto killer and task manager on your phone? Forgive me for the confusion
Yes, but like I said, I only use it when I really need to close something which isn't that often. Like if a game I am playing freezes. When I am done with an app, just press the back button and it will close. Try it.
Open an app, press home then look in the task manager. It will be there.
Open the same app, press back, open the task manager and it won't. So using the task manager is like just for emergencies if the app won't close properly.
Thanks alot man
Has anyone else noticed that the memory used indicator is showing the opposite amount of used memory under manage applications-running program as opposed to going to HTC task manager widget? It is the exact opposite..mine show only 239mb used and 500mb free. Think htc may have gotten these mixed up?
Yea I was about to ask something similar. Task manager says 674 used 129 free (803 total). In manage apps it says 254 used 472 free (726 total). Clearly one is reporting wrong.
I think is trust android first before the HTC task manager LOL.
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Other task managers I've used agree with HTC. Must be how they calculate available userspace memory.
Just curious why the free RAM shown in the task manager doesn't line up with the free RAM shown in Manage Applications/Running? For example right now in Manage Apps it shows I have 598MB free however task manager shows 261MB free. Obviously a huge difference between the two.
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> Running shows you actual free RAM plus the amount of RAM that can be recovered from closing cached/inactive apps.
Task Manager (and third-party system info/task manager apps) will generally only show only how much actual free RAM remains.
While it's true that inactive/cached apps are pre-loaded in RAM (similar to how Windows does with Superfetch), those apps aren't actually running and can be purged at any time when the system needs RAM for running processes and services. Therefore, the amount of RAM these cached apps are consuming should be considered free, and that's why you see it under Manage Applications.
Thanks for the quick reply! Yeah, I get how Android handles the memory I just didn't couldn't figure out why it was being displayed differently in those places. I appreciate the info.
psouza4 said:
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> Running shows you actual free RAM plus the amount of RAM that can be recovered from closing cached/inactive apps.
Task Manager (and third-party system info/task manager apps) will generally only show only how much actual free RAM remains.
While it's true that inactive/cached apps are pre-loaded in RAM (similar to how Windows does with Superfetch), those apps aren't actually running and can be purged at any time when the system needs RAM for running processes and services. Therefore, the amount of RAM these cached apps are consuming should be considered free, and that's why you see it under Manage Applications.
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Couldn't have said it better!
Glad to help.
I've read that Task Manager such as Advanced Task Killer are bad for Android as the app will automatically start back up, so I uninstall the Task Killer and was wondering will Watchdog help?
I would suggest using Autostarts, stop the worthless apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...rfer.android.autostarts&feature=search_result
...along with Auto Memory Manager:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&feature=search_result
They're both free of charge!
The only reason why i ever used watchdog was to see if there was a particular app which consumed too much RAM, since it has a alert function.
This isn't the usual question about low memory etc etc its about the remaining memory in the task manager and in the application manager.
Why does the task manager show less remaining ram than the application manager? Which one should I believe?
I think application manager as it accounts for all system processes too
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Nice one, just thought it was a bit weird for it to show different values even thought it's the same thing but worded differently