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Ok, before I get crucified, I have searched and I haven't found anyone having anywhere close to the same issues as I. My last phone lost 4g after rooting. I couldn't get it back till I restored to stock. Flashed radios, roms, and wiped cache, data, and davik cache. Well, I finally raised enough of a stink to get an NIB thunderbolt. Rooted then had the same issues with 4g going out. So finally I tried something I didn't try before, I reflashed the mr1 upgrade rom from J's root thread. I got 4g back, but now I have issues with it shutting down randomly. It's not a reboot, it's more like a sleep of death. I can only fix it with a battery pull and reboot. I'm not overclocked, and I haven't even used setcpu on the mr1 rom. Is anyone else having these issues? Also, when I first received the phone and used it unrooted for two days until I had time to root it, it was plagued with random reboots every hour or so. I loved my new phone and didn't mind it until I started having major usability issues. I can't deal with a phone that can't stay on all day and I'm not sure what to do at this point. Does anyone have any possible explanations for what I'm experiencing?
I have this issue but I am pretty sure it's hardware related. Sometimes if I put pressure on both ends of the phone and bend it a tiny bit, it will shut off. Might not be the same thing as you but that is what is causing it for me.
1454 said:
Ok, before I get crucified, I have searched and I haven't found anyone having anywhere close to the same issues as I. My last phone lost 4g after rooting. I couldn't get it back till I restored to stock. Flashed radios, roms, and wiped cache, data, and davik cache. Well, I finally raised enough of a stink to get an NIB thunderbolt. Rooted then had the same issues with 4g going out. So finally I tried something I didn't try before, I reflashed the mr1 upgrade rom from J's root thread. I got 4g back, but now I have issues with it shutting down randomly. It's not a reboot, it's more like a sleep of death. I can only fix it with a battery pull and reboot. I'm not overclocked, and I haven't even used setcpu on the mr1 rom. Is anyone else having these issues? Also, when I first received the phone and used it unrooted for two days until I had time to root it, it was plagued with random reboots every hour or so. I loved my new phone and didn't mind it until I started having major usability issues. I can't deal with a phone that can't stay on all day and I'm not sure what to do at this point. Does anyone have any possible explanations for what I'm experiencing?
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Sleep of death? Haha, yeah, I've got the same issue. Screen refuses to turn back on, but I know the device is still running since my notification light keeps blinking. Only solution is a battery pull. Happened twice today.
I'm running dasBAMF 2.0-5.
Ok, well I guess its good to know that I'm not alone.
Well, I guess if its hardware I will whine a little more to Verizon.
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Ok, well I guess its good to know that I'm not alone.
Well, I guess if its hardware I will whine a little more to Verizon.
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Yep. I too have experienced the sleep of death at least half a dozen times. I experienced it a lot on MRs. at the time I was running Gingeritis beta CO and Imoseyans kernel OC to 1403mhz.
I've been running on MR2 for a week now with Gingeritis final and Imoseyans kernel.... and haven't had one spasm.
Rooting doesn't disable 4G. Did you make sure your original TB radio wasn't set to CDMA auto (prl) in settings/network before returning it?
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Had the "sleep of death" happen today for the first time. Rooted on candy rom 2.0.3. Happened as soon as I got into a 4g area while driving.
sleep of death aswell here. Not often.
there is a new gb radio out MR2.5 ...running great so far..
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I am running MR2.5 with The Perfect Storm 1.5 with no reboots or problems!!
TwistedX
I've been getting SOD occasionally as well. Happened once on stock rooted, several times on gingerBAMF, and on BAMF 1.7 as well. Often it has happened while asleep to find phone unwakeable in morning, but still on. The last day or so I've had market downloads seemingly trigger it as well. At least it did it while updating apps....No physical triggers have caused it. It's never frozen in my hand as previous poster mentioned.
I'm scared it's increasing in frequency. Guess I'll see how MR 2.5 works when I get a chance next.
I didn't say that rooting was the cause. Just the series of events. It wasn't until I flashed new roms that I started having issues. I have gone back to mr1 upgrade and gotten 4G back, but now I have the sleep of death issue.
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I may try this setup and see if I still have issues. Thanks for the feedback.
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Mine has only frozen while using once. Most of my issues with the sod have been after being in sleep for a while.
Thanks for all the responses, maybe one of the devs can chime in with some advice as to what we need to do to fix it.
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I did have a simi random reboot issue this morning or o think so. I was making coffee and heard the phone vibrate than screen. Went off and rebooted. I was running gingerits with twisted and imo kernel at 1400/184 smartass extreme. I think that was the issue cause I set it to 1400/240 interactivex and have had no issues and got 16hrs outta of my 1700 batt with heavy usage.
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+1 sleep of death
^_^_^
It's happened to me twice, once yesterday and once today. I have never had it happen until I flashed MR2.5.
i'm 3 days free of any more SODs after wiping to death and flashing MR 2.5 radio. happy days again. I hope. Probably just the wipe and not restoring any app data at all that made it better.
So i have a rooted tbolt with MR2 radio and ive used gingeritis and the newest shooter leak. Every once in a while the screen just wont turn back on. Unresponsive, ive let it sit nights fine and it turns back on no problem. But when its unresponsive the only solution is to do a battery pull and reboot the phone. It sucks cause theres no telling if the phones just sleep or if its dead lol. Has anyone else had this problem?
For what its worth, i do underclock it to 184mhz but never overclock it. Also the voltage is pretty low at 750 when underclocked. Could this be the reason for the freezes? Any insight would b helpful. Thanks all
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I would do a full 3x wipe and reload the new GB radio and ROM again. I have had some issues that were odd/sporadic like yours and this seems to be the fix.
thanks ill give that a shot
I had that problem too with MR2 and an older radio also. between wiping everything and doing MR2.5 it got better.
That is called the sleep of death coined by some other member that started a similar thread. I've had that problem on mr2. Haven't had it on mr2.5.
Well it did occur for me again this morning 7 days after wipe/update to mr2.5. Very frustrating. At least it's not happening every day like it was prior to this...
1. Screen lags to turn on even though I adjusted the minimum clock frequency to 768MHz.
2. Phone will randomly reboot, no specific/apparent cause, because it rebooted on me in very different situations. So yes, the reboots are completely random and I would like to stop them/prevent them from happening.
Again, I really appreciate any and all help with this, thanks in advance.
Flashing the ota mr2 radio fixed my random reboots. I experienced random reboots stock, stock rooted, and bamf 1.8. Then switched to cm7 and the above radii and reboots have gone away.
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No problems here. I'm running the newest radio, mr2, and CM7.
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Could you post a DL link for the MR2/MR2.5 radio? I'm having trouble finding it, googled but no success
Hi all,
I'm wondering if anyone can help me....I'm getting kind of desperate here! Basically my Atrix keeps randomly rebooting or getting stuck with the screen off (requiring a batter pull) . This happens about 10-20 times a day (my Atrix is far too unreliable right now to use as a daily). This seems to ONLY happen when on network (ie 2g/3g/hspa) and doesn't seem to happen on wifi. I can leave it on all night and day at home on wifi happily with no trouble but as soon as I go to work and leave it on network, the trouble starts. Its weird cause if the phone is doing something with the screen off (playing and streaming music over Bluetooth for example) it won't have any problems. Its only once I leave it at rest on the network that it turns into the most unreliable handset ever.
At first I thought it may be the neutrino rom I was running but I've since been using jokersax's amazing ics builds and the same problem persists. I did a full clean (format /data & /system plus cache and factory wipe ) and loaded on the latest beta build this morning, left it clean with zero apps except google (and xda!) and within an hour of getting to work the problem came back.
I am fully boot loader and network unlocked.
Please, if anyone has any idea I would be really grateful. I am tearing my hair out!
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It is happening with me too, but, I dont realize it on happen on mobile data connection
Since i flashed beta 0.1.0 2d of Jokersax's ICS and come out of home
Today, for 5 times I have to pull battery out of Atrix
Why not try a more stable ROM first and see if you get reboots.You do realize some phones just cannot handle unstable roms like the cm9 builds even though they are great for some ppl it just doesn't workout also maybe you are using an oc kernel that your phone cannot handle.I would check both things first.
Try some a bit more stable.
cm7 ba2ft
wetdream
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If you get the same with those then maybe fastboot wipe and stuff like that so you can clear everything out
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Why not try a more stable ROM first and see if you get reboots.You do realize some phones just cannot handle unstable roms like the cm9 builds even though they are great for some ppl it just doesn't workout also maybe you are using an oc kernel that your phone cannot handle.I would check both things first.
Try some a bit more stable.
cm7 ba2ft
wetdream
darkside
gingermod
If you get the same with those then maybe fastboot wipe and stuff like that so you can clear everything out
EDIT: flash a radio too
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Hey,
Thanks, I'm going to try Gingerblur tonight... I had ruled that out as I have used darkside/gingerblur before and apart from the occasional reboot they were OK. The reboot was OK really, I know its a known issue with this model even with unrooted handsets, as long as its occasional and clean boots back to system again it doesn't really matter as I don't pin lock my sim (currently my problems are either a reboot every three minutes as soon as I switch the screen off... or, more commonly, the dead screen, needing that battery pull) .
I *suspect* that it may be the radio, but really need some solid advice on this because a couple of years ago I completely bricked my G1 by flashing the wrong radio and vowed never to touch radios again if I didn't have to....I am naturally very hesitant about radio flashing from that episode. Can anyone give me some decent advice on which radios i should be looking at for an unlocked ( but formerly Orange UK) Atrix? One very nervous owner here!
The other weird thing is that is perfectly fine when on a power source.
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Hey,
Thanks, I'm going to try Gingerblur tonight... I had ruled that out as I have used darkside/gingerblur before and apart from the occasional reboot they were OK. The reboot was OK really, I know its a known issue with this model even with unrooted handsets, as long as its occasional and clean boots back to system again it doesn't really matter as I don't pin lock my sim (currently my problems are either a reboot every three minutes as soon as I switch the screen off... or, more commonly, the dead screen, needing that battery pull) .
I *suspect* that it may be the radio, but really need some solid advice on this because a couple of years ago I completely bricked my G1 by flashing the wrong radio and vowed never to touch radios again if I didn't have to....I am naturally very hesitant about radio flashing from that episode. Can anyone give me some decent advice on which radios i should be looking at for an unlocked ( but formerly Orange UK) Atrix? One very nervous owner here!
The other weird thing is that is perfectly fine when on a power source.
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Hang on, I'm not making sense here, maybe it is these advanced ROMs, I was just surprised that neutrino (a cm7 based rom) also produced these reboot problems. Anyway, any advice on radios would be appreciated
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As long as you flash atrix radios only you should be okay. I flashed just about every applicable radio on my brother's captivate and never bricked it.
I agree with you and previous posters, it sounds like a radio issue for sure.
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I have the same problem with my Atrix running cm7 ba2ft. Sometimes it does not respond when you try to unlock, and I need to take out the battery to turn it on again. I bought the phone couple of weeks ago.
another thing to look at would be the battery my friend had similar problems with his nexus and tryed Roms and radios I bought him a new battery as a joke and the joke ended up on me cause he hasn't had the problem since let me know if this helped you aswell
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Same problem here. Very aggravating.
I am having the same problem. And I am 100% stock with no mods. I just installed OTA 2.3.6 so I am waiting to see if that helped.
Yeah, I'm really worried this is a hardware problem - I've been quiet these past couple of days testing the brand new GB radio and when that still had errors i then also tried the European one - the problem still persists. I have now downloaded every Atrix radio under the sun now so may try a few more...
This is quite frustrating as a) I really want to enjoy ICS as it really is a step up from previous versions of Android and b) I no longer have the option of selling this in its current state.
I'm also going to try a new battery as WikidClown suggested above, can't harm....I can pick up one on Amazon for less than a tenner.
One thing is for sure, I don't think I will be buying Moto hardware again!
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I am having the same problem. And I am 100% stock with no mods. I just installed OTA 2.3.6 so I am waiting to see if that helped.
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OK, so does anyone have any ideas? I have tested it using a load radios...and still nothing, it still randomly reboots. This is possibly the most unreliable handset I have ever owned
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Have you tried fastboot wipe? Maybe format internal SD and start fresh. Haven't had this issue just trying to help.
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Have you tried fastboot wipe? Maybe format internal SD and start fresh. Haven't had this issue just trying to help.
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I have formatted /system and /data etc between ROM changes, how would I do a fastboot wipe? I'm willing to try anything at this point!
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Actually, scratch that, I know exactly how to do that...except I can't boot into fastboot. Is this indicative of something wrong? Will I have to go back to SBF?
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I have formatted /system and /data etc between ROM changes, how would I do a fastboot wipe? I'm willing to try anything at this point!
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i baught my atrix used. everything was stock. still had multiple reboots and battery pulls daily. on cm9 they seem to happen less. and the battery pull only happened once. but i know the issue must still be there. might try my wifes battery. her atrix has rebooted maybe 5 times ever. 3 since this last official update (she is still lock stock and 2 smoking barrels)
OK, trying a new battery is my last hope...I did a fastboot wipe this morning and for an hour and a half it was all going so well...but then the reboot happened.
I'm getting a bit fed up with this pos hardware...I can't even sell this thing in this state.
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Anyone have any other experiences? I have confirmed that it isn't the battery...I bought a new batter and within 45 minutes it has rebooted once and done the screen off thing where it needs a battery pull. Complete crap.
One thing to note is that it does seem to get very warm on the back, although the internals ( behind the battery) don't seem so bad. Is there any way to keep the temp down aside from underclocking? All my roms have always been under clocked so I know that doesn't make any difference.
The other thing I might try is to use something like Noled so the phone isn't completely idle. Might drain the battery a bit unnecessarily though....why couldn't Moto have put in an amoled screen?
Anyway, will report back once I've tried it.
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I used to get tons of random reboots and then I was told to get the app called "Wake My Android Pro". Settings -> Test Activity -> Auto Startup, and Stop Activity checked. Weird settings, I know, technically with stop activity checked it doesn't do anything, but ever since then I don't experience random reboots. This was a few months ago when I was on just CM7. I've always installed this app when I get a new rom and I've tried Neutrino, Darkside, Alien, Aura, CM7, Wet Dream, and currently on joker's CM9 beta 1 build and RARELY experience random reboots. It went from once an hour to once a month now. I'm also on the .36p radio if that helps.
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I used to get tons of random reboots and then I was told to get the app called "Wake My Android Pro". Settings -> Test Activity -> Auto Startup, and Stop Activity checked. Weird settings, I know, technically with stop activity checked it doesn't do anything, but ever since then I don't experience random reboots. This was a few months ago when I was on just CM7. I've always installed this app when I get a new rom and I've tried Neutrino, Darkside, Alien, Aura, CM7, Wet Dream, and currently on joker's CM9 beta 1 build and RARELY experience random reboots. It went from once an hour to once a month now. I'm also on the .36p radio if that helps.
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Cheers, have downloaded and will report back. The most annoying thing about troubleshooting a problem like this is that there is no immediate 'it worked or 'it didn't work' ....it's just a waiting game! Thanks a lot though, really hope it does work (and thanks for replying, was starting to feel like I was answering threads to myself!). I have .36 radio installed already (I think, will check...it's the Brazilian one isn't it?) .
Just to check then...you have all the check boxes in wake my android ticked?
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Hello all.
As the title says, I've been having random reboot sessions on my phone lately. When these reboot sessions occur, the battery gets hot.
I'd like to give some more information about my situation:
I've been using CM7.2 on my Huawei u8160 for almost half a year now, without any kind of problems. Lately, the phone started rebooting randomly, especially during phone calls, making the phone almost useless. The reboots also occur when the phone is idle. These reboots drain the battery extremely fast.
I've been using CM7 with the V6 supercharger, as I said, for months without problem. When these reboots started happening, I reflashed the rom, doing a full wipe (clear cache, clear dalvik, format system, format data, factory reset etc.) , but that didn't solve the problem. I reflashed CM7 several times, with / without V6 supercharger, without deleting those system apps that are safe to remove (live wallpapers, update notify etc.). I also reflashed the stock froyo rom the device came with. None of these methods worked.
It is getting more and more frustrating, since they occur randomly, and I can't make a proper phone call, since it's almost guaranteed the phone will reboot during the conversation.
I tried formatting the SD card, using another SD card, resetting the battery stats, using a program on the market and the CMW Recovery - nothing helped.
Another thing I noticed (this may sound very stupid) is that the phone reboots more often when I'm outside (it's winter here now), or when I enter in a warmer place, or when the phone is in my pocket.
I asked an assistant from a nearby Vodafone store, she said that it is a software problem ( -.- ) and that the phone needs to be sent for service. I told her I've already reflashed the software, and she said I only did an update not a full soft flash (lol).
I would really appreciate if anyone could give some suggestions, or help me in any way.
I have also created an error report using the device specific setting menu included in the CM7 rom, which I am attaching here.
Help is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Hello all.
As the title says, I've been having random reboot sessions on my phone lately. When these reboot sessions occur, the battery gets hot.
I'd like to give some more information about my situation:
I've been using CM7.2 on my Huawei u8160 for almost half a year now, without any kind of problems. Lately, the phone started rebooting randomly, especially during phone calls, making the phone almost useless. The reboots also occur when the phone is idle. These reboots drain the battery extremely fast.
I've been using CM7 with the V6 supercharger, as I said, for months without problem. When these reboots started happening, I reflashed the rom, doing a full wipe (clear cache, clear dalvik, format system, format data, factory reset etc.) , but that didn't solve the problem. I reflashed CM7 several times, with / without V6 supercharger, without deleting those system apps that are safe to remove (live wallpapers, update notify etc.). I also reflashed the stock froyo rom the device came with. None of these methods worked.
It is getting more and more frustrating, since they occur randomly, and I can't make a proper phone call, since it's almost guaranteed the phone will reboot during the conversation.
I tried formatting the SD card, using another SD card, resetting the battery stats, using a program on the market and the CMW Recovery - nothing helped.
Another thing I noticed (this may sound very stupid) is that the phone reboots more often when I'm outside (it's winter here now), or when I enter in a warmer place, or when the phone is in my pocket.
I asked an assistant from a nearby Vodafone store, she said that it is a software problem ( -.- ) and that the phone needs to be sent for service. I told her I've already reflashed the software, and she said I only did an update not a full soft flash (lol).
I would really appreciate if anyone could give some suggestions, or help me in any way.
I have also created an error report using the device specific setting menu included in the CM7 rom, which I am attaching here.
Help is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Yeah, going to the store after flashing a custom ROM is rarely going to yield favorable results. Honestly, I'd try clearing app data and fixing permissions. What recovery are you using? When in doubt, wipe twice.
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Yeah, going to the store after flashing a custom ROM is rarely going to yield favorable results. Honestly, I'd try clearing app data and fixing permissions. What recovery are you using? When in doubt, wipe twice.
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Yeah, I know that rooting void varranty and everything but the naive me thought maybe they can say something clever...
I tried clearing everything, formatting system, data, cache, everything, fixing permissions etc.
I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.x.
I am planning to buy a new battery because I observed it's getting really hot sometimes, and after the reboots occur, it's also really hot.
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Yeah, I know that rooting void varranty and everything but the naive me thought maybe they can say something clever...
I tried clearing everything, formatting system, data, cache, everything, fixing permissions etc.
I'm using ClockworkMod Recovery 5.0.x.
I am planning to buy a new battery because I observed it's getting really hot sometimes, and after the reboots occur, it's also really hot.
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The more time you devote to this the more you'll realize that most of the folks at the stores dont know much. It wont hurt to buy a new battery. Wipe the battery stats. Do you use a custom kernel? Ovetclocked? Underclocked? Played with the voltage tables?
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The more time you devote to this the more you'll realize that most of the folks at the stores dont know much. It wont hurt to buy a new battery. Wipe the battery stats. Do you use a custom kernel? Ovetclocked? Underclocked? Played with the voltage tables?
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Yeah, you're right...
I did wipe the battery stats, let it drain completely and did a full recharge. For the kernel, I don't really know much about these stuff (yet). This is the ROM I use : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259739. Im my phone info menu it says 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #23 (no idea what this means) so I don't know if it's a custom kernel or a stock one. For clock values I use min: 30MHz max: 600MHz (which is the stock value if I'm not wrong). I don't know what you mean by voltage tables, I'd appreciate if you could explain that.
Thanks so far.
Well basically in a nutshell, voltage is the power sent to the CPU. Some custom kernels allow for what's called undervolting. Basically you're you're lowering the amount of power sent to the CPU, where in theory you'll achieve better battery life. However, this can be very dicey. I would not recommend playing with voltage tables until you're a bit more experienced. I asked because undervolting can lead to boot loops and seemingly random reboots. You're running a solid rom with cm7. If you didn't touch it, then that's the stock cm rom. Have you searched the forum thread?
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Well basically in a nutshell, voltage is the power sent to the CPU. Some custom kernels allow for what's called undervolting. Basically you're you're lowering the amount of power sent to the CPU, where in theory you'll achieve better battery life. However, this can be very dicey. I would not recommend playing with voltage tables until you're a bit more experienced. I asked because undervolting can lead to boot loops and seemingly random reboots. You're running a solid rom with cm7. If you didn't touch it, then that's the stock cm rom. Have you searched the forum thread?
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Yes, I haven't touched anything in the ROM I'm using currently.
I've been searching the forums for days before starting this thread, without success.
What I noticed about the reboots is that it occurs almost exclusively when making / receiving a phone call and when the phone is idle.
*edit: I forgot to mention that I'm using Segoe font, not sure if that makes a difference though. I have replaced almost every font in the /system/fonts folder (droid sans+bold+mono and even droid serif+bold+italic+bolditalic)*