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hi guys, right now I'm using a HD2 w/Android on it ... And the battery sucks and I get no audio notification while charging, so I decided to change to either the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 or the HTC Google Nexus One... I'm on T-mobile T-Zones/Web2go
Why Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10i?
Can I get Gingerbread on the XPERIA X10i?
I'd get the nexus one actually.. There is no multitouch on the x10 and the only updates past 2.1 are custom roms...
The nexus one will stay current with updates and will have full functionality instead of a locked bootloader that hinders the phone like the x10..
X10 has multitouch/dualtouch...
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Flo95 said:
X10 has multitouch/dualtouch...
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Dualtouch yes, multitouch no... hence why i wrote no multitouch
And the dual touch is pretty buggy.
dual touch on mine works fine.. no problems at all... X10 looks nice, and UI is better looking than std Android..
In the end it comes down to looks vs raw power
any more info
im_iceman said:
dual touch on mine works fine.. no problems at all... X10 looks nice, and UI is better looking than std Android..
In the end it comes down to looks vs raw power
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Do a dual touch test and try crossing axis... It's the same for everyone.
What do u recommend if need ATT 3g?
fiscidtox said:
I'd get the nexus one actually.. There is no multitouch on the x10 and the only updates past 2.1 are custom roms...
The nexus one will stay current with updates and will have full functionality instead of a locked bootloader that hinders the phone like the x10..
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Thanks for the info
fiscidtox said:
Dualtouch yes, multitouch no... hence why i wrote no multitouch
And the dual touch is pretty buggy.
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Doesn't N1 also have Dualtouch only?
N1 if you want to flash your device regularly
X10 for a beautiful device with stable software
Yes I'm aware of the cross axis ' issue' never caused me a problem though
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So Nexus One, is the move!
The x10 doesn't cost that much and the xda devs are making it upgradeable
the nexus one will have the latest android software available. whereas the x10 will be stuck on the older version of android
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 or the HTC Google Nexus One... I'm on T-mobile T-Zones/Web2go
Well, guys and girls, the Mini Pro "mimmi" has got a fully working dualtouch driver now. Has anyone fiddled with their minis in a similar way to know if real dualtouch is on its way?
I'm afraid it's not on the way nor will it ever be. Unfortunately the hardware just doesn't support it, unlike the mini pro.
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JaX3RiR said:
I'm afraid it's not on the way nor will it ever be. Unfortunately the hardware just doesn't support it, unlike the mini pro.
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i thought the x10 mini SUPPORTS DT but not MT(unlike the pro one)
Yeap, it should support DT, but we cannot get it the way the pro did. We need the hopefuly-to-be-released-soon kernel
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Well, it can't take too long now, can it?
*Dreams about DT on Mini*
No real DT on the mini... Because of the hardware, as same as the big X10 !
The mini can just have a fake DT...
so never can we play games with two fingers? like nova
sorry for my bad english
*EDIT* Ignore post, I was led to believe the Mini had a DT capable touchscreen *EDIT*
Plancton.fr said:
No real DT on the mini... Because of the hardware, as same as the big X10 !
The mini can just have a fake DT...
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The hardware AND digitizer both supports it.
The hardware supports DT, but the drivers don't. Mini pro has a MT compatible screen, we can just get DT at most, just like the x8. Anyway, the kernel has to be replaced.
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loger8 said:
The hardware supports DT, but the drivers don't. Mini pro has a MT compatible screen, we can just get DT at most, just like the x8. Anyway, the kernel has to be replaced.
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Exactly. Mini has a Clearpad 2000 which supports DT at max, but that's enough for ALL games as three fingers is too much on such a small screen. I trust our extremely good developers, as I know they will have this fixed soon.
Don' t worry guys, our awesome kernel is on the way
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loger8 said:
The hardware supports DT, but the drivers don't. Mini pro has a MTk compatible screen, we can just get DT at most, just like the x8. Anyway, the kernel has to be replaced.
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I thought the x8 only supported one touch point.
Anyway, if it requires the kernel to be cracked then that's going to take a while.
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DustArma said:
I thought the x8 only supported one touch point.
Anyway, if it requires the kernel to be cracked then that's going to take a while.
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it never needed the kernel being cracked. It can all be done with unloading the kernel driver and load the new driver as a module. its the exact same thing as if you would change the kernel.
The problem is the digitizer. And it will always be.
slade87 said:
The problem is the digitizer. And it will always be.
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The digitizer in Mini supports DT as it is a Synaptics Clearpad 2000. The 2000 is part of Series 2, which is basically the same as Clearpad 2100. Both of which supports Dualtouch, but nothing more. Still, Dualtouch is enough for our small screens.
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
Theshawty said:
The digitizer in Mini supports DT as it is a Synaptics Clearpad 2000. The 2000 is part of Series 2, which is basically the same as Clearpad 2100. Both of which supports Dualtouch, but nothing more. Still, Dualtouch is enough for our small screens.
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
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X10 Mini's from 2011 January+ Have a Big chance to have Cypress digitizer
But i dont know if this can receive Real Dual Touch like the Pro
See the Atached file, is a Full Dmesg from Kueh9, his x8 have a Cypress Digitizer.
Sorry for bad english.
Haaley said:
X10 Mini's from 2011 January+ Have a Big chance to have Cypress digitizer
But i dont know if this can receive Real Dual Touch like the Pro
See the Atached file, is a Full Dmesg from Kueh9, his x8 have a Cypress Digitizer.
Sorry for bad english.
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Ok, well my Mini is from 2010, and I know for a fact it's got a Cynaptics Clearpad 2000.
Nobody sees this, at step 14? It's Synaptics T1021A !
And nobody sees this? T1021A is ClearPad 1000 !
And nobody also sees this? ClearPad 1000 is Single-Touch !
I highly believe X8 also this digitizer. And guys, stop dreaming about DT/MT with custom kernels!
doixanh said:
Nobody sees this, at step 14? It's Synaptics T1021A !
And nobody sees this? T1021A is ClearPad 1000 !
And nobody also sees this? ClearPad 1000 is Single-Touch !
I highly believe X8 also this digitizer. And guys, stop dreaming about DT/MT with custom kernels!
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I still think that is wrong. I need more proof to change my mind
Well then trust what you think. I don't care, because I don't have x10 mini
Many are still disappointed that SE Chosed not to give us MT
Regarding MT. Is it possible to port MT from ARC 2.3.3 to X10 2.3.3?
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If the anwser is NO, Why? Is it locked or something like that
No diffren hardware
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Why is it on xperia ray development is so dead?...so less custom roms? and without own forum of QnA, general discussion , themes and app? ...
Or is it the phone still new?
Any developer working on new rom? or full functioning miui?...i hope so ..
it is not new , but it is unlocked by free xperia team few weeks ago
xperia ray said:
it is not new , but it is unlocked by free xperia team few weeks ago
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Is the third newest phone of Xperia Family..it isn't?
So the development just getting started? or this device wont get a good support from XDA?
Last time i use an X8 , a great phone supported by so many developer, i hope Xperia ray too
I also hope to more developers to develope roms for ray
Had to wait around a month before somebody at XDA decided to do a forum for the Ray, but they kind of messed up the logic of the tree structure. Just do not get why there is no section about themes and apps... Saw lot of ray owners posting the Arc section. (resolution is the same, would make sense to put them together).
As per MIUI there is a 99% working here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301406
midoriconcept said:
Had to wait around a month before somebody at XDA decided to do a forum for the Ray, but they kind of messed up the logic of the tree structure. Just do not get why there is no section about themes and apps... Saw lot of ray owners posting the Arc section. (resolution is the same, would make sense to put them together).
As per MIUI there is a 99% working here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301406
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THen can i use their ARc ROM and copy those libs and modules and replace it?
but still some bugs here
What doesn't work
Taking Screenshots with MIUI application (menu + volume down)
Flashlight when taking photo's (torch app works)
Google maps => to test if it still drains the battery
wifi tethering => it loads, but I can't connect my portable, to be tested by others.. usb tethering works for me
????
There is active developement for the ray
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356685
And have a closer look at this picture
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19568511&postcount=13
I can see something like 4.0.1 and urushi
I will be starting development soon for the ray. I have to work on the arc s, play, x10 and the ray so you will have more well one more anyways. Head over to my thread at the x10 forums. It's called Nocturnal_1.4.2_REVOLUTION and you will get a taste of what's to come.
Regards
Blackwatch
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on the 4pda forum (russia) there's a man called "aire", he is making a repack for our device, it works very well. he's also developing a kernel, with overclock and a lot of governors. it also works rather well. i advice it to everyone)
Blackwatch89 said:
I will be starting development soon for the ray. I have to work on the arc s, play, x10 and the ray so you will have more well one more anyways. Head over to my thread at the x10 forums. It's called Nocturnal_1.4.2_REVOLUTION and you will get a taste of what's to come.
Regards
Blackwatch
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Thanks Blackwatch! ..cool!...Maybe you could request to separate Ray Forum from Mini pro , active? ...Most of the ppl in XDA dunno that there is a Ray forum..
Other: Thanks for the useful information.......
I dunno how to multi-quote =3=, Aha......
I also think the Ray should have it's own forum or at least be paired with the Arc forum, since it's basically a smaller Arc with the same hardware.
The Minis and Active are inferior devices.
MarkMRL said:
I also think the Ray should have it's own forum or at least be paired with the Arc forum, since it's basically a smaller Arc with the same hardware.
The Minis and Active are inferior devices.
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+1, I got the same idea too...maybe we should contact forum admin..
Anybody with unlocked bootloader and recovery on their phone and knows how to flash a rom who wants to test a stock tweaked rom (SE-Tweaked) give me a PM
I'm a little tired at the moment so bare with me, I will send out the links ASAP
Regards
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festa20 said:
Anybody with unlocked bootloader and recovery on their phone and knows how to flash a rom who wants to test a stock tweaked rom (SE-Tweaked) give me a PM
I'm a little tired at the moment so bare with me, I will send out the links ASAP
Regards
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Please post link here, if it's okay with you. Thank you.
festa20 said:
Anybody with unlocked bootloader and recovery on their phone and knows how to flash a rom who wants to test a stock tweaked rom (SE-Tweaked) give me a PM
I'm a little tired at the moment so bare with me, I will send out the links ASAP
Regards
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How you do bro. I have the ray too if you want me to test it for you. I have the play, ray, arc s and x10 (the last 2 you already know ) pm me if you need me to be a tester for you. Remember what me and you did for achotjan. Well the same applies here.
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MarkMRL said:
I also think the Ray should have it's own forum or at least be paired with the Arc forum, since it's basically a smaller Arc with the same hardware.
The Minis and Active are inferior devices.
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Wrong. The arc and ray have completely different hw. I know because I have them both. The screen and colour is like 1000x better on the ray. I have never known an LCD screen with so much detail. The arc has a really weird bright tint to it so black looks gray as where black looks black on the ray. Also if they were the same also the camera would have red eye reduction flash like the arc but it don't as the camera and led is different also the CPU is different model. Arc uses snapdragon and we use qaulcomm. Also where the arc s has also different hardware by the slightest it would cause many to end up bricking devices because people like yourself (no offence) thinking it has the same hardware. I looked into this when I first got my arc s and noticed massive differences. I personally think the ray is in the right section with the mid range small screened devices. And the reason it had a desperate sub forum is because it is different to the mini devices. Not only that we already have the Neo, pro, and arc s in our forum and it would only confuse people with which rom is which for who and where and to much clutter. Also for the hw side if things again. The ray has two capacitive buttons and a front facing camera as to also a different s1boot model. You can check by going into a store with a display model of the arc and going into the service menu. I hope this explains things a bit for you guys and also I will say some of my info may not be all correct but its just what I have read up on some sites and circuit manuals.
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Blackwatch
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Blackwatch89 said:
...Arc uses snapdragon and we use qaulcomm...
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According to this and this, both SEX Arc and SEX Ray uses Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon.
no dead, i will support it,
second_east said:
According to this and this, both SEX Arc and SEX Ray uses Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon.
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the full Xperia 2011 lines uses the same MSM8255/MSM7x30 chipset...
the difference is in the screen sizes, touch screen, camera....
there are 2 boards that the whole Xperia 2011 line is based on:
Zeus - Xperia Play (r800)
Mogami - all the rest 10 devices (Arc, Neo, Ray, etc....)
second_east said:
According to this and this, both SEX Arc and SEX Ray uses Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon.
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That's right:
Manufacturer: Qualcomm
Model: MSM8255
Alias/Codename/Series: Snapdragon
Any dev can share their development about JB
Or any one can ask question
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I think no one is intrested about jeally bean
Really x10 died
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varacharoad said:
Any dev can share their development about JB
Or any one can ask question
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take a peek here. might help you :good:
FXP Wont work on JB but gave some interesting hints in X10 Development forum (FXP CM9.0 thread).
I guess that the most important thing might be preparing new kernel out 3.X branch (which was never done for X10)
Fera was nice developer but I has stoped work for x10
I think we should request him
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varacharoad said:
Fera was nice developer but I has stoped work for x10
I think we should request him
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He's busy with his own problems.
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I feel surprised after seeing this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30026274
Galaxy 3 having nearly 670mhz and having jb
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Some devs are working on JB for X10
Check that out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30345322&postcount=6051
But without a team work itll be useless. We need KTG team to work on new kernel: like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685799
And lots of others to make things work!
Our x10 could of ran ics good but the makers of our processor stopped support for it up to Gingerbread. So don't expect(entirely my view) to see AMY ics rom running smooth enough to be happy with.
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brenty108 said:
Our x10 could of ran ics good but the makers of our processor stopped support for it up to Gingerbread. So don't expect(entirely my view) to see AMY ics rom running smooth enough to be happy with.
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The maker of our processor created Adreno 2XX driver for ICS and JB so theres a chance, just someone hast to work on it.
They are many device which are not supported after 1.6 but their devloper hv mad code so it can run even jb on 600 mhz processor too
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No it is the Qualcomm QSD8250 Snapdragon processor that is the problem, with gingerbread we were able to get about 54fps but ics around 30fps which I cannot live with. Because qualcomm cut support for it by way of drivers.
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Fera is back to action
http://code.google.com/p/feralab/
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