I have a Sprint Optimus S that has a bad ESN (bought on craigslist) it is active because the previous owner didn't pay their bill so in its current state it can't be activated. I am currently just using it as my homephone under my wifi network. I'd really prefer not having to buy another of the same phone just for network functionality (really want to get the $25 data plan). It is locked to Sprints CDMA network. I really wish sprint didn't make it so difficult it seems they have little interest in repeat business and the sad part is besides a few 1's and 0's they are the exact same phone.
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I just dropt verizon and join Sprint. Is it posible to use a Verizon touch pro
on Sprint network.
I have search but the only thing i find is Sprint Touch Pro on Verizon Network.
If that's not posible I'll take $150.00 bucks for the Verizon Touch Including case and screen protector It''s only 2 month old.
cjpaez said:
I just dropt verizon and join Sprint. Is it posible to use a Verizon touch pro
on Sprint network.
I have search but the only thing i find is Sprint Touch Pro on Verizon Network.
If that's not posible I'll take $150.00 bucks for the Verizon Touch Including case and screen protector It''s only 2 month old.
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Nope, they have different versions of the radios (cdma v. gsm) ... just get a sprint branded Touch...
also, my girl might be interested in your Verizon pro. email me at [email protected] or 213-925-5351 so we can talk...
ummm... Yea, sprint and Verizon are both CDMA. Im currently using a Sprint radio on my verizon touch Pro. as to activating the verizon n a sprint network, I dont think it works that way.
then my bad.. so your using ur sprint branded touch on the verizon network?
Sprint and Verizon Touch Pros should both work on either network. They are both CDMA. Sprint operates on 850 and 1900mhz, Verizon runs on 800 and 1900mhz, but both carriers use these frequencies. It should be a matter of flashing your phone with a kitchen or rom and making sure that you have the appropriate carrier specific info.
With that said, since the verizon TP has about 100 megs of RAM less than the sprint TP, I would wager that you would like the Sprint TP better and have less fuss if you could sell of the Verizon TP. I don't know for sure if Sprint will let you activate a VZ phone on their network although it should work fine.
P.S. Usually the trend is to try to get a Sprint TP on running on Verizon as the Sprint hardware is nicer.
Done Rambling.
I dont know that Sprint will add the verizon TP's esn to their system. Unless there is a workaround that i dont know about.
Ill take the touch pro. I have verizon and want to upgrade to a touch pro. email me at [email protected]
i sell you a sprint tp
i can sell you a sprint tp give me 250 everything is on the box is unlock already with mighty rom 4.14 i can send you the phone activated if you have and account email me jmmp(at)ultraxtreme(dot)com
unless you really know what your doing, and don't mind really bending the law, i would say that it isn't worth it to get a Verizon TP to work on Sprint. also like said above, the Sprint TP has better hardware
Cross Carrier Activation Is Not Possible... Don't Believe The Rumors!!!
Simply put, Neither Verizon or Sprint will activate the other carrier's phones on their network. The esn numbers are not in the opposite carrier's database and neither carrier will add an esn from a device that is not branded as their own. Period end of discussion. Yes both Sprint and Verizon's phones are compatible on one anothers network, but that's not the issue. The issue is getting the carrier to activate a device from the other carrier which the WILL NOT DO.
People activate sprint touch pros on verizon all the time without a problem. heres a writeup on how to do it for verizon http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-touch-pro/120970-sprint-touch-pro-verizon.html
I just bought a sprint one and I have verizon. It's not hard to use it on the other network
Word on the street is that VZW caught on to this and is no longer allowing these MEID/ESN's on their network.
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I just bought a sprint one and I have verizon. It's not hard to use it on the other network
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that was true a month ago, it is not true today.
Verizon eliminated the *228 option 3 setup that was allowing the sprint phone to be activated on VZ. If you try it now, you get an error saying to call VZ TS & if you do call they refuse the activation.
I have a Sprint TP on VZ myself but I hope it never breaks.........
~John
any workaround for this? I get my Sprint touch pro tomorrow
Sprint Touch Pro
If anyone interested in my Sprint TP email me at [email protected] and I'll cut you a sweet deal. I love it but I am with Verizon and have moved on to the BB Storm...its cool but the TP does more..
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I am a AT&T prepaid user. Can I use the Atrix 4G in it without data plan? I only use Wi-Fi which is much faster.
The AT&T shop assistant man told me that I will not be able to use it if I do not open any date plan. If I am a prepaid user I can not use the phone; If I am a postpaid user I will be notified to add a data plan after I insert the SIM card into the Atrix 4G which is a smartphone.
Currently I also use a smartphone in AT&T network and does not commit any data plan. The phone works great. The shop assistant said the reason is that Atrix 4G is a AT&T phone and will be recognized by AT&T and force to open a data plan.
I do not know whether I should believe him for may be he is just trying to sell me more expensive plans. Is it technically possible to ban prepaid users? Is there any way to avoid this restriction? Since the Atrix 4G smartphone is bought in full price and unlocked, I do not owe AT&T anything. It works in T-Mobile, but does not works in AT&T prepaid, which seems very rediculous.
Yes, You can.
So the salesmen is only trying to threaten me with no real dangerous?
If you use a pre-paid SIM on an smartphone on AT&T, they will slap a data plan onto your account and you will be expected to pay it. I've seen it happen multiple times before.
Be careful when trying to break policy.
Well my girlfriend has an iPhone prepaid on ATT (my old one)with no data plan, so it is possible I would think for the Atrix to be used prepaid. But I really do not know.
Unfortunately, AT&T scans the IMEI numbers of all the phones on their networks occasionally and if they find any smartphones without data plans they add one without any warning. If you want to use a smartphone without Data, look at T-Mobile. They're the only one you can really do it on.
Sucks, and I think there should be some sort of law about that since there's no physical requirement of smartphones to have data, but thats how it is.
I've got an atrix, it uses 3g/4g so a data plan should work unlike the iphone. The Inspire is another phone where data plans are not available for pre paid. Salesmen love to threaten,intimidate and mislead.If you only want wifi you can turn off data in the data manager under settings.
So, they may only scan my IMEI and add data plan to it without my permission, and I can always make voice calls?
Since I am in "$2 Unlimited Daily Talk and Text" prepaid plan which is not qualified for any data plan, how can they add date plan to it?
I've been using an x10i on at&t and thinking of changing to an x10a so I can get 3g access. the problem I have is that I've been using the 15$/month unlimited for non smartphones. I know someone with an x10a that had att detect that they used a smartphone, I think it was because it used hspa. I'm wondering, does anyone know how at&t detects non smartphones?
They know what kind of phone you have whether its a dumbphone or smartphone from its IMEI number.
All AT&T phones have their IMEI numbers registered in their database.
Phones that are NOT AT&T phones they are unable to find out what kind of phone it is because the IMEI isn't in their database unless the manufacturer for some reason decides to send them then IMEIs for all their non AT&T devices. Google did this with the first couple of Nexus One runs. That's why some N1s would register on AT&T and some wouldn't. Bastards...........
Find a non AT&T X10a (Does Telus or Rogers have the X10 ?) and you should be golden.
Unless S/E gave AT&T a listing of their IMEIs for non AT&T variants for some odd reason............
I can tell you how to edit the international mobile electronic identification number on your x10.. I can remember the exact path to it since my x10 is dead/bricked/ibrokeithalfafter it happened anyways,I guess pm me if you want it and when my father arrives back from his place of employment I will give you the path to freedom.. all you need is one cmd from the big blue term emul. (echo $value >/path/I/will/provide/asap I believe its illegal but idgaf , when mine showed up0000000000000 I was kinda scared due to the fact I could **** up my phone.. also ATT knows its a smartphone due to the fact that your tunneling through their work using an APN.. they called me actually rofl when I lost my sim.. took over my little bros sim card due to the fact that to get a new one you have to send them the 15 digit number and my sticker got ****ed on the phone.. but they actually left me 2 messages sounded like a sophisticated african american that said Did you know that your smartphone requires a data plan lilbro had no data lmao then sent a text too and then charged me for ****ing two 2GB data plans... lmao their ****ing assholes they could of just chosen the 4GB but anyways yeah ATT has their phones on lockdown.. unless you spend all your time trying to bypass ATTs rules all day and night like me.. I had Hspa before they released the ****.. I was locating towers in africa.. which blew my mind.. I didn't know ATT was over there.. I thought they just ****ed us, U.S. citizens over.. anyways pm me ill tell you a cpl ways to piss ATT off.. e.g. edit the apn setiings with their I.p addresses and use diff ports.. (download a pinger from the market then type in the url for their apn to access their ip addresses.. gd I miss my x10 att discontinued it I think btw)
edit:// btw why the **** would you want 3G instead of the big H... 3G can't even hit 700 kbps in my town which of course a map verifies theres not much 3G coverage in my town.. which is right by STL.... tmobile sounds like a quite accelerated network atm from present customers I've spoken too.. and US cellulars 3G is actually quite fast from what I've seen.. (their just releasing it in the saint louis metro east.. but my buddy can get evdo when he roams......lol?)
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I've been using an x10i on at&t and thinking of changing to an x10a so I can get 3g access. the problem I have is that I've been using the 15$/month unlimited for non smartphones. I know someone with an x10a that had att detect that they used a smartphone, I think it was because it used hspa. I'm wondering, does anyone know how at&t detects non smartphones?
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I know it's a little late, but I had the same plan you have when I was using the AT&T tilt and then the tilt2. I got the Tilt by upgrading my plan and found out later I had a "smartphone" exclusion on my account (that was when they weren't forcing people to upgrade to a smartphone plan). It basically meant I was allowed to have a smartphone on my account without having to get the smartphone plan. Now, I used that plan for a few years with the unlimited data before buying the Tilt2 and they never did anything. I bought the tilt2 on ebay and they still didn't do anything to my account while I was using that one. They do, however, state in their TOS that if they find you are using an "inappropriate" data plan for your device they can change your plan accordingly if they choose to. They never did on mine though. I didn't get the smartphone plan until I upgraded to the lg expo a while back, and had to get it to get the phone since it was through RadioShack. I was told I could have called and reverted it back, but I didn't get around to it and time ran out.
Like msgnyc said, they detect the phone based on the IMEI number. No sooner than you put your sim in your phone and sign in on the AT&T website, your new device will show up there. It's not like they instantly say "Woah! This person has a smartphone. We have to upgrade the data plan on the account right now!".
If you put your sim in a smartphone, as long as you don't go nuts on the data, you should be good sticking with the plan you have. (BTW l3as3ballel2 is a troll and I wouldn't listen to a thing this person posts)
Wao some of these things sound so illegal, like altering the serial no. (IMEI) of the phone to mimic detecting it like a non smartphone "awe"
Why go to such great extends to get in trouble even with law enforcement, just get an unlocked smartphone. I have a galaxy s2 and I'm hapily on the $15/mo Ulmt data plan but of course I had to lurchase the device at front.
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changing your IMEI is very illegal and such talk isn't allowed on XDA.
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So I am going on a cruise in the Caribbean on Saturday for 5 days and the ship that I will be on has cell coverage for international roaming but when I called Verizon to activate it they declined because I have not been a customer for over one year. I need my phone to work in case of an emergency because the wife and I are leaving our 1 year old son behind with my parents. I have s-off and am on the newest ics leak firmware and radios and running rezrom 2.4. I have the lte toggle app and basically want to know if there is anyway I can be able to receive calls and messages while on vacation. Any help would be great. Thanks guys
If you check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421341
You will see that the Rezound can be used internationally for calls fairly easily. Data and SMS are hit or miss.
What did you ask the Verizon tech? It sounds like they thought you were asking to unlock the SIM. You don't need to unlock your SIM with the Rezound, just insert the SIM of your choice.
I have never heard of a need to have an account for a year to activate international service. Verizon will make good money on you while you roam, but it'll cost less than not activating an international plan with your current SIM and just allowing roaming manually.
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Officially the Rezound is a CDMA only phone. Therefore Verizon can only set up the international operation for 40 countries (No GSM operation). Verizon has a totally separate international help group, and will even loan GSM capable phones. You can turn on the service for a short as a week. Ask for the international group, no regular store employees. They also give you a "help" number to call when you are out of the country.
For on board service, the ship has to have CDMA service as well as the more common GSM to handle a stock Rezound. And usually they become your service provider for more $$, not Verizon. You may be able to get critical messages through the cruise line if you check with them and arrange it ahead of time.
That said it international rates are expensive (data is outrageous) and even in 40 countries where Verizon shows service it is often hit or miss (like the Caymans for me). But as said before, get a GSM SIM card (check on line deals) and the phone can generally work for voice and SMS reception (not replies) in up to 160 countries depending on what card you buy. There are a number of threads that provide more info, and even ROMS like Venasaur for better international use support.
I've been a loyal HTC user for a very long time (12 years). Well I bit the Samsung bullet and went to the S7 edge. But it's locked up pretty good. So I took it back yesterday.
Now I'm wanting to try the V10. But I'm on Sprint. And Verizon is the best choice to use. Can anyone dummy this down for me?
I understand the Verizon version is SIM unlocked. So it seems like I can drop in a Sprint SIM card. Change the APN settings and I should be good, right?
Verizon and Sprint both use CDMA+GSM(for Data), but as far as I know you won't be able to activate Verizon's phone on Sprint network. Both company has their CDMA inventory table and if the ESN is not registered in their inventory table, it won't activate for you.