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This is an excerpt from an email conversation with HTC:
"I thank you for sending an email about unlocking the boot loader mode on the new HTC EVO 3D. I understand you would like to unlock the boot loader mode on your Android device but there has been no decision about which devices will be unlocked. I would suggest that you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab."
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This is an excerpt from an email conversation with HTC:
"I thank you for sending an email about unlocking the boot loader mode on the new HTC EVO 3D. I understand you would like to unlock the boot loader mode on your Android device but there has been no decision about which devices will be unlocked. I would suggest that you keep an eye on the HTC regional website at www.htc.com/US under the Home tab."
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Figures. I emailed them as well, no response back yet. When I do hear from them it will probably be a generic response like the one you received.
their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
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their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
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Yes and i think it was posted on the HTC facebook page.
Just figured I would post to help make more noise about it. Noise seems to help make things happen sometimes. Other times it is just noise though.....
I had actually emailed asking for the SMART_IO.CRD file to help with some development work I didn't mention boot loaders or unlocking or rooting. Somewhat surprised at the response for their general support desk. lol
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their ceo sent out an email saying they would unlock it. if they renig on this they are in for some trouble
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Yep.
They have about 28 days to figure it out for me. Keep lighting up their Facebook. E-mail is good, but public exposure on places like Facebook and Twitter is the best.
They are going to F everybody over with these corporate stall tactics... I'm holding off until this ***** is unlocked.
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They are going to F everybody over with these corporate stall tactics... I'm holding off until this ***** is unlocked.
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Ditto.
And in reality, I'm leaning heavily towards the Photon or SGS2 now. The SGS2 is already unlocked, and with today's news that the Atrix was unlocked via a leaked 2.3.3 upgrade and that the official 2.3.3 upgrade will be unlocked, it sounds like the Photon will probably ship unlocked as well.
I've loved HTC, but I'm not interested in dealing with a company that's openly deceptive.
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Ditto.
And in reality, I'm leaning heavily towards the Photon or SGS2 now. The SGS2 is already unlocked, and with today's news that the Atrix was unlocked via a leaked 2.3.3 upgrade and that the official 2.3.3 upgrade will be unlocked, it sounds like the Photon will probably ship unlocked as well.
I've loved HTC, but I'm not interested in dealing with a company that's openly deceptive.
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Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
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Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
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When? Moto said a while back that they were going to stop locking all future phones to my knowledge.
Edit: NM, just found it. However, that just says it won't ship unlocked, and it's a month old. If the Atrix will be unlocked with their GB update, I would be surprised if the Photon doesn't follow suit very quickly... unless it's sprint who's actually pulling the strings here.
Is it a carrier branded device. ? It'll be locked.
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Motorola has already said that it will not unlock the Photon.
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all they stated was that it wasnt unlockable/relockable, could have a xoom style bootloader for all we know.
what moto said is that they will release software that will unlock devices later in the year. As to which specific devices will get the unlock functionality, that will be the decision of the carriers.
This was one of the major reasons I said I wasn't picking up this phone on launch day. There is no guarantee this thing will ever be unlocked, regardless of what HTC said a few weeks ago. From what I gather, they never specifically stated the Evo 3D would be unlocked, just future phones. Considering the phone was already in production when they made that statement, they might not think it's worth putting the effort to unlock it at this point.
Also, I checked out the phone at my local Sprint store and wasn't impressed at all. I'll see what the SGSII or the Photon has to offer when those are released.
Keep on the assault on facebook! The second we slow down is when they decide that eventually we will forget about it and not do anything about it.
Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
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Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
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i totally agree with this..
and also i agree everyone needs to keep the Assault on the facebook page.. maybe if enough ppl sit there and ***** they will do something about it.. cause this is some serious bull****.. the CEO wasnt the only one who said something about the unlocking of the bootloaders.. but there was a post from a HTC DEV that the EVO 3D would SHIP UNLOCKED!! so this bull**** with them saying "FUTURE DEVICES" is exactly that BULL****...
I WILL BE DOING A COUNTDOWN ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE.. SEEMS LIKE A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.. EVERYONE GETS ON FB ATLEAST ONCE A DAY SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY OF DOING IT..
hit their twitter page also.. @HTC.. i am.. looks like they more actively watch their twitter page.. been following them for days now and who ever is watching it replys to almost everyone!!. just a thought..
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Someone with more free time than myself should make a countdown timer to 29 days after launch and feature it in a petition to return evo 3d's if htc keeps playing the waiting game.
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Ask and Ye shall receive.
bit.ly/HTC-UnlockOrWeWalk
As much as I want to believe that HTC is going to come though, I am cautious through past experience. Companies move SLOW. Right hands don't talk to the Left Hands, and before you know it, we're in the same club as some of the Motto people. I don't want to be in that club!
I want a device where I am FREE to choose what I may do with it, warranty or not. Free to utilize the device to its FULL capability and NOT be bogged down by bulky code or bloatware.
For the clock, I've set some parameters.
Date: Set for the earliest of the 30 Day period starting June 21st, the day users were able to start ordering the phone. You may argue that it shouldn't start till the 22nd, but I've worked retail, I've seen some of the BS Reps try to pull with 30 day technicalities. The clock goes till 9pm, the bleeding edge of the return policy for brick and mortar stores.
Time Zone: Set for Eastern as this would be the time zone in the United States to be affected first.
people need to tweet and post on the facebook page..
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people need to tweet and post on the facebook page..
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done and done.
Come ladies and gentlemen, place your bets!
i think so lots of websites have scans of an internal memo stating the update as the 30th. if not the 30th then the 7th since thats when free hotspot promo ends and they said a software update would disable this.
No
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Verizon does like to do things on Thursdays, so we shall see.
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i agree verizon loves releaseing things on thursdays
Considering that there have been few rumblings (other than some well placed informants), I'd have to say probably not a full blown release, but maybe the start of soak testing.
I'm not holding my breath
Who really cares anyways?
If you are on this forum, chances are you are already running some type of GB on your phone and it is probably better than any "stock" release whether that is tomorrow or a month from now.
the GB roms run great (im on theory)....but come on man...its not going to be as stable as a final GB + Sense build...there are many proprietary files that are not complete with the test build...i cant see why the new official build wont increase are GB rom experience
What will happen to if you have a rooted phone. Will the update break the root?
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What will happen to if you have a rooted phone. Will the update break the root?
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Just wait for one of the devs to make a rooted version of the release and then flash the zip to your phone. Simple as pie.
you shouldnt update if you are rooted. wait for a rooted stock firmware.
I highly doubt it since there's been little or no talk at all about it. I was wondering since I just snatched one off of CL for super cheap. guess I'll go root instead.
I'd like to point out that it was all of 3 weeks ago they leaked something that looked like a reliable RUU called MR2 that was beyond question Froyo. Is it just me, or am I the ONLY one that took one look at that fake looking photo and said to myself "Dear God, the only thing that would look more fake would be a duck bill on a cactus." Can you imagine what the order for such a thing would sound like? "Hey, Johnny! We need and INTERNAL MEMO drawn up. Make sure to put our logo in the LEFT corner where NOBODY would ever put a logo on official stationary, be sure to add a picture of the device incase NOBODY has ever seen our first LTE phone, and definitely add specific OTA release numbers AND the radio version that will include so that our boys down in technical support will grow big rubbery ones as they dangle the information out there at hords of pimple-faced geeks calling with 'problems' but are really just hoping for the next big scoop for Androidforums.com" If Gingerbread come out in an official OTA today, I will eat my Thunderbolt and post the video on Youtube. I promise. In fact, if it comes out in the next 90 days, I'll eat the phone.
Aaaaaaand.....NOPE.
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Aaaaaaand.....NOPE.
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saw that coming.
btw, some people are getting a little upset over this whole topic. it'll get here one day (hopefully), just chill out
I don't even care about gingerbread. I just want the bugs fixed.
No I called Verizon's tech and he told me that there is no update coming out
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I'm here to collect my $100 from each dum-dum who believed it was coming out today, thank you.
It's released
Gingerbread for the Thunderbolt is released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140967
Ok guys I'm at the Sprint store debating on whether or not to return my defective 3vo for another 3vo and hope its good to go or just going back to my Evo. I'm really missing root a lot and to be honest I'm starting to question if an unlocked bootloader is ever going from come as well as s-off. I know this is the 3d forum so responses will be mostly one way, I'm just looking for honest opinions while I sit in my truck and weigh the options.
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Ok guys I'm at the Sprint store debating on whether or not to return my defective 3vo for another 3vo and hope its good to go or just going back to my Evo. I'm really missing root a lot and to be honest I'm starting to question if an unlocked bootloader is ever going from come as well as s-off. I know this is the 3d forum so responses will be mostly one way, I'm just looking for honest opinions while I sit in my truck and weigh the options.
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I say exchange it for another Evo 3D, and give it another shot. S-Off is right around the corner, and once we have that the development for this phone will blow up. I'm also missing all the different roms that were available for the Evo 4g, but it won't be long until we have that here. Hopefully within a week or two it will all begin, that would be phenomenal. The full potential of this phone will be released once full root is here, and I definitely wouldn't want to miss out on it, personally.
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I say exchange it for another Evo 3D, and give it another shot. S-Off is right around the corner, and once we have that the development for this phone will blow up. I'm also missing all the different roms that were available for the Evo 4g, but it won't be long until we have that here. Hopefully within a week or two it will all begin, that would be phenomenal. The full potential of this phone will be released once full root is here, and I definitely wouldn't want to miss out on it, personally.
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That's what I'm leaning towards its just after 1 exchange I loose the ability to return the phone for a different model which really sucks if full root, and recovery never end up arriving then I'm stuck lol
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That's what I'm leaning towards its just after 1 exchange I loose the ability to return the phone for a different model which really sucks if full root, and recovery never end up arriving then I'm stuck lol
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im positive s-off will arrive....if all our current devs cant(highly unlikely) some people will b tired of waiting and will find other exploits
When you say return back to your old EVO, I'm assuming that you didn't sell yours where you got the 3d. If you're still within your 30 days, couldn't you return it for whatever you paid for it (giving back any upgrade you may of used) then just using your 4G until the 3d is rooted then re-jump ship?
If you did sell your 4G and you'd be getting a new EVO 4G, you won't be able to root it at this time,so you'd be in the same boat with a less powerful phone
Edit: and if you're not within your 30 days, but still have your 4G...just reactive your 4G and put the 3d on the shelf until the times of root come
Keep the 3VO!
Worst case, get a used Evo on Ebay for cheap and sell you 3VO for a profit.
Or have a stellar backup...
I'm sticking my my 3VO for now, I sure do miss the extras I had on the OG. The 3VO sure is sweet too though! And it'll be just that sweeter if/when we all get to S-Off and flash again.
I say test the hell out of it before you leave the store.
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When you say return back to your old EVO, I'm assuming that you didn't sell yours where you got the 3d. If you're still within your 30 days, couldn't you return it for whatever you paid for it (giving back any upgrade you may of used) then just using your 4G until the 3d is rooted then re-jump ship?
If you did sell your 4G and you'd be getting a new EVO 4G, you won't be able to root it at this time,so you'd be in the same boat with a less powerful phone
Edit: and if you're not within your 30 days, but still have your 4G...just reactive your 4G and put the 3d on the shelf until the times of root come
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If you still have your E4G just return the 3D and wait until s-off has been achieved. It has already happened it's just being packed up and ironed out...so I wouldn't worry. After returning my first E3D I actually traded in my E4G and got another E3D. I'm that confidant.
But, if you don't have an E4G don't get a new one...they are currently unrootable....same for refurb models from every outlet I've heard of.
Stick with the E3D. At least we have the perma-temp-root and OC for now. Sure, that's no substitute for CM7 or MIUI or Decks or Fresh...but...it'll do for now.
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When you say return back to your old EVO, I'm assuming that you didn't sell yours where you got the 3d. If you're still within your 30 days, couldn't you return it for whatever you paid for it (giving back any upgrade you may of used) then just using your 4G until the 3d is rooted then re-jump ship?
If you did sell your 4G and you'd be getting a new EVO 4G, you won't be able to root it at this time,so you'd be in the same boat with a less powerful phone
Edit: and if you're not within your 30 days, but still have your 4G...just reactive your 4G and put the 3d on the shelf until the times of root come
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New EVO's have 2.2 out of the box me and the store clerk checked 2 boxes out. The problem is Sprint is honoring my
*Preferred Member perk and granted me a full upgrade after 1 year but the offer was only extended until July 31st. I'm sure you know that that program has changed and is no longer honored. You need a qualifying plan or 10 years tenure with Sprint now for yearly upgrades!
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Thanks for all the friendly input I was expecting backlash or trolling accusations. I did decide to swap my 3vo for another 3vo. No screen problems everything is square as hell. It does still seem quite laggy for being dual core. I don't remember my Evo og being this bad. Oh well keeping fingers crossed permanent root/ s-off comes soon the shipped version of Swype is absolutely killing me LOL.
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New EVO's have 2.2 out of the box me and the store clerk checked 2 boxes out. The problem is Sprint is honoring my
*Preferred Member perk and granted me a full upgrade after 1 year but the offer was only extended until July 31st. I'm sure you know that that program has changed and is no longer honored. You need a qualifying plan or 10 years tenure with Sprint now for yearly upgrades!
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My apologies then. I have read from many people that most/all EVO 4gs were coming with 2.3. I kept my 4G, which is rooted, just to play and dev with, and to have as a backup incase I screw up my 3d while helping with the s-off cause.
I'd been kind of flip-flopping the decision myself - but I'm one of the buyers that has nothing wrong with the phone at all (except for this LITTLE pinprick of light in between my home and menu capacitive key.) I sold my roommate my rooted Evo 4g and I kind of look at it with sadness lol. But now, I can't see being without my E3D. When we're finally able to unleash this beast, it'll be a wrap!
LOL time to stop living under a rock. HTC announced it will be unlocked by september.
Ok After reading about alot of the issues folks are having with the new HTC Unlock. I thought id share some info I received about it from a pretty knowledgeable friend of mine that is a Sprint Tech. So I Was in my local Sprint store today talking to my buddy. I brought this up about the HTC unlocked boot loader. (BTW he is unlocked with Revolution method as am I and we were sharing info on fun stuff with our favorite ROM's) But he told me that the Unlocked boot loader is NOT fully functional yet. (key word being yet) and this isnt for the HTC EVO 3D as It is for the Sensation only and the full unlock for the Evo has yet to be released. He said everyone has to wait till the full release comes out and This would be why so much trouble is being had with it right now.
He also told me that Sprint some time back knew that many new phones would be coming unlocked so. Sprint changed their policy on Rooted phones and their service of them.
And seeing that this is not been announced as a official release for the HTC EVO 3d I would lean more to believe what he says is true. At least this is what he has been told Via HTC and Sprint. Knowing him as I do I would believe it. All we can do I think is wait. Hopefully people that have been using this method havent done anything bad to their phone.. I doubt it. But like I said we will see.
Just an FYI and passing on what I heard......
It was official. What new policy?
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What do you mean it is not an official release? Why would HTC turn on the Evo 3G link on the unlock website if it wasn't official? Why does the HTC site say that this is only applicable to OTA 2.08.651.2 if it wasn't an official version?
Granted this is the first carrier branded phone to get the HTC unlock treatment so maybe there are some issues to work through and there may be another update forth coming. Only time will tell if your source is correct.
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It was official. What new policy?
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All I know is what he said his contacts at HTC/Sprint have told him.. That this is not a full release yet..
it looks to me as if everyone has issues with it working correctly. No S-off with it. Unable to get nandroid unlocked fully, issues with custom recovery like TWRP and newer versions of CW working.. So.. We will see. This is all I know. For me. Ive got mine allready done and working through Rev.
Never said new policy.. Just when Sprint changed their policy of servicing/repair of rooted phones. It used to be if you brought in a rooted device to them it was like the world ended for it. BUT now they dont have any issues with it.
This is awesome info thanks!
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All I know is what he said his contacts at HTC/Sprint have told him.. That this is not a full release yet..
it looks to me as if everyone has issues with it working correctly. No S-off with it. Unable to get nandroid unlocked fully, issues with custom recovery like TWRP and newer versions of CW working.. So.. We will see. This is all I know. For me. Ive got mine allready done and working through Rev.
Never said new policy.. Just when Sprint changed their policy of servicing/repair of rooted phones. It used to be if you brought in a rooted device to them it was like the world ended for it. BUT now they dont have any issues with it.
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...I don't buy it. why would HTC release "half" a working unlocker that could potentially cause more harm than a full unlock.
felacio said:
...I don't buy it. why would HTC release "half" a working unlocker that could potentially cause more harm than a full unlock.
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They could consider it throwing the community a bone, whilst they're figuring out if their ass is properly covered on the liability front.
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They could consider it throwing the community a bone, whilst they're figuring out if their ass is properly covered on the liability front.
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Hmm... yeah, that's possible. anyone check the Sensation forums to see if there unlock is full or not?
I guess this wouldn't give too much strength to the argument as Tmobiles stance on unlocking may be different than Sprints.
Interesting. Do you have any more information regarding the policy changes?
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Interesting. Do you have any more information regarding the policy changes?
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I know of some others here on the forums that have posted Sprints approach to Rooted phones. I will see what I can find and repost it for you.
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Hmm... yeah, that's possible. anyone check the Sensation forums to see if there unlock is full or not?
I guess this wouldn't give too much strength to the argument as Tmobiles stance on unlocking may be different than Sprints.
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So here is the deal of what im being told.. And its possible the info on the Sensation forum says some of the same..
But What I was told by my buddy was that the current Unlock is for EU models or the Sensation and the Evo 3d. That any American models of the unlock have not been full release. Again.. This is what im hearing But I just checked on the Sensation form here and in their discussion this issue is brought up by more then 1 person
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16676072&postcount=14
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16733285&postcount=59
This could be a possibillity as an issue.. BUT I guess all we can do is stay tuned and see what happens.
Personally. I dont care if its a warranty issue or not.. If you play you pay.. Ive got no issues using the HTC version IF and ONLY IF its supported and real deal along with usable with things like TWRP and Nandroid is full unlock with S-off. Really HTC needs to jump forward and meet head on with the Dev/open source world and work with them not against them.
For now im full root S-off and until I see that HTC comes 100% on their end of stuff I will not use it.. if they come through Im game.
Thanks VZ!
Grow a pair HTC..
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Meaning, the 'all other devices' no longer works, since as was pointed out, it was never technically on the official list to begin with.
no fkidding?
need to verify before I cancel my pending pre-order.
I don't think it was ever on the list. The accounts I've read are of people selecting the "other supported devices" option.
I'll likely cancel my pre-order too. This makes me sad, I was so exited about this device.
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I don't think it was ever on the list. The accounts I've read are of people selecting the "other supported devices" option.
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That method no longer works.
Should have been more clear.
We're already working on something.
Pleas don't get your undies in a bunch just yet.
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I can live with stock for a while... Just got mine today... a day early... But I can't play with it until I'm done work... If unrEVOked is working on it I have faith...
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This dont scarw me. I'm getting one. You got some of the best devs working on this.
As stated above, I am also totally willing to live with stock for a while. The great devs around here haven't let us down yet and I doubt they will now.:good:
God I hope so, I'm just picturing another OneX situation..
I figured this would happen sooner than later which is why I was going to pick one up tomorrow morning, but the night before is BS.
This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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Less than .001%, don't over think it. Phone hacking is a tiny community against the rest of of the world.
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Less than .001%, don't over think it. Phone hacking is a tiny community against the rest of of the world.
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and yet, VZ still wants us to bend over.
That's why I don't say any thing about HTCDev website. Once Verizon hears a device can be unlocked, its game over.
Pardon my complete ignorance. I've only had one HTC device before (Spouses TBolt), but I rooted it when I first got it and rooting instructions went live on XDA. What's the likelihood of rooting the DNA without having the HTCDev site unlocking it. Again, sorry if this is an elementary question.....
I am getting this phone tomorrow and give my S3 to the spouse, but I remember the wait before that phone was rooted, and it was agonizing. A Perm Root method came out literally on the 14th day, my last day to return it, so I got lucky. Do you think this will stunt development for this phone? I love using different, power-sipping kernels on to my devices.....
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This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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You do realize that a quality ROM will probably not be out for weeks. Not quite sure what you are looking to do the very first day with your bootloader / root. I am willing to wait a couple of weeks as I am sure the devs will figure it out.
I'm am so pissed, but this kind of thing happens every year when I upgrade. I'm still getting mine tomorrow, and just praying S-Off won't take as long to achieve like it did for the Rezound. Fingers Crossed
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Is anyone actually surprised by this? By most accounts, this was entirely expected given what has happened with some previous Verizon HTC devices. Like the Incredible 4G, which could be unlocked via the site before it was officially released, but once the release date actually rolled around, it no longer worked.
I prefer to have root just for wifi tether and titanium backup. Just so much easier to restore apps with it then to try and use each app's backup/restore process.
I'm not looking until Feb anyways, but definitely disappointing.
This seems like a deal breaker to me. I was all hyped up about this but not so much anymore.