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Looks good.
Lets hope this thing will bring in lots of welcome company.
I know have a device, I am going to run it how it is for a week, to get a good feel for it, and then I will let the fun begin.
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Looks good.
Lets hope this thing will bring in lots of welcome company.
I know have a device, I am going to run it how it is for a week, to get a good feel for it, and then I will let the fun begin.
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Looking forward to it!
Hope to see some WP7 ROMs on these devices soon!
Edit: I just noticed your provisioning files, did you actually dump the ROM? Would you mind sharing the dump?
that was a "leaked" ROM "leaked" meaning it went to 2-3 people.
I was not going to leak that, in fear of having someone loose there job.
I am going to work on getting it dump here before to long.
I have a list of issues that I have with it right now. I will keep track for about a week, and then I will write a review or something to see what I have found out.
Okay, yes I completely understand why you can't share it now.
I hope you will find out more about the ROM, hopefully you'll be able to dump it correctly.
EC
WARNING I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU DO ANYTHING TO YOUR DEVICE BY DOING ANY OF THESE CODES
Well few things. now that is said.
U+S+B+ Power = Recovery Mode
S + L + Power = Secure Bootloader
C + B + Power = Hard Reset
From the phone screen, enter ##77647266488 then press Call
This is the programming screen, you can manually program using this code.
The firmware is a different mess.
It seems we are not able to dump a ROM from device, at least not that I have seen.
Why do you ask, because what Microsoft did is they have different build flags.
-Debug -Beta -Retail -Ship
From inside there, the Ship, has strict settings on it. One of those is that it cant dump the ROM.
So that is where we are at right now. I have a few ideas to try but I am not going to test for a few days.
We shall see though.
So that is what I have figured out so far.
New site is launched today.
http://kin-tips.com
YESSSSSS!
I AM THE ONE WHO ASKED mikechannon TO MAKE THIS FORUM...YAYAYAYAYAY
conflipper said:
WARNING I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU DO ANYTHING TO YOUR DEVICE BY DOING ANY OF THESE CODES
(...)
New site is launched today.
http://kin-tips.com
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A shame to hear that it's so hard to get it dumped, I really hope you'll be able to. I do not own a KIN, but I would love to have the resources for theming purpose.
Nice site, it's really useful to have all information in one place, but I think it's important to keep posting your findings here on xda too as it will help others who don't know about your site.
yes, i will still do that.
it cant hurt to have the info in 2 places. i want the infomation to be out there for people to find.
Nice, thanks.
Doesn't look like there is much interest in this phone. Too bad. I for one would love if it would get hacked. If some would figure out how to get a wifi router app on it I would be so there. Android would be great too but with the screen size and tegra I doubt anything will happen. I wish I had the time or the abilities to work on this phone.
The kin is officially dead. Here comes Windows Phone 7.
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The kin is officially dead. Here comes Windows Phone 7.
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I agree but it is still sad.
Can you please help me root my KIN two. Or atleast point me in the right direction, i will donate to you through paypal. I really want to custimize my KIN TWOm!!
so... verizon re released the kin, and for this form factor it is a very nice hardware device.
unfortunately, the software on it is still not so good... so i was hoping XDA was on the ball, but it doesn't appear so.
is there any hope for custom roms on the kin?
I was using androidflasher.zip and I put radio.img in the "radio" box but i also had another .img in the zip folder I downloaded with the radio it was called mdm9k.img so I put that in the radio box and right when I clicked flash BOOM hardbrick.. phone wont respond to anything.. no lights no recovery/bootloader.. NOTHING.. the phone wont even charge or respond to me plugging it in to my computer.. I still have a warranty but REALLY dont feel like going through all that.. any easier methods?
First question why use a program to flash a radio when Hboot is simple, fast, easy, and built in. Wow people surprise me, if something does not make sense don't do it. You are now the proud owner of a fancy paper weight, well fancy looking it does the same thing as a rock.
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Use warranty, GL
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u didnt answer my question at all..
thanks for wasting precious seconds of my life reading your pathetic post
I did answer it for you, there is nothing you can do I saved you time waiting for an answer just as good as mine. If you don't like it that is life. Do what ever you can to get a new phone and use Hboot with that phone or just don't even root it, you don't seem to know what you r doing.
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#1 your a dumbass.. just need to put that out there..
#2 why would a developer spend precious time making a program that was irrelevant and didn't come in handy
#3 thanks for answering my question.
Grnlantern79 said:
First question why use a program to flash a radio when Hboot is simple, fast, easy, and built in. Wow people surprise me, if something does not make sense don't do it. You are now the proud owner of a fancy paper weight, well fancy looking it does the same thing as a rock.
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time to use your warranty
#1 I am sure the developer made a program that worked fine, have I used it no I used one better stock Hboot.
#2 Did you use the program wrong, I am going to say yes since you carelessly put a file in the radio box that you were not even sure went there.
#3 Is my phone working cause I know what I am doing, well I am typing on it now so who is the smarter one of us? I will give you a penny for your paper weight.....final offer.
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Oh don't forget to use the thank you button.
Edit: he left and didn't even thank me....did I say anything but the truth?
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hmm.. well lets see i downloaded a RADIO from xda and inside the zip file were the two files i flashed under RADIO because that IS what I downloaded.. but yeah Im the stupid one.. i should have put it in some other checkbox that didn't say RADIO.. i should have just put it in the bootloader checkbox or something.
Did you try a battery pull? If you can at least get it to boot into bootloader, you may be able to reflash the radio.
Not sure, because I've never used the app your talking about.
Anyways, good luck.
You broke it, don't drive the prices up for the rest of us by doing a warranty claim! Use your insurance.
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Never heard of it but it looks like AndroidFlasher uses fastboot to flash radios for several different devices.
So for a brick one of these is probably the case
1) the radio you downloaded was wrong
2) AndroidFlasher doesn't take into account multiple radios for Thunderbolt so the wrong radio was flashed to the wrong location
I talked to the developer he said you are the only one who did this process wrong. So yes you are the dumb one. Go ask him what you did wrong. Please stop trying to make yourself any smarter or someone else's fault.
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Hey bro!
First of all, let me clarify for the XDA world, it doesn't seem to me that you are "DUMB". In fact, I don't think we need to even tell people these things. On the opposite side, we all do "ignorant" things at times. Please don't get offended that I say the word, "ignorant"? All ignorance means is that you did or did not do something without knowledge or experience. Ignorance does not claim that you are dumb. The word "dumb" is defined by Webster as, "Lacking the power of speech". Evidently, that is not what you are doing! In fact, you were trying to do the opposite!
Sincerely, I have done many ignorant things in my life. So, I am not sure that you will be able to fix your phone, but I hope and pray that you do get it fixed. Keep your head up and don't be afraid to fail. You are doing more than many people! Those who do not take risks fail because they accomplish little.
Living by Faith in Christ,
Ryon Lee Adcock
there are some few options for saving you from a hard brick. I got my SGS saved from that kind of stuff! What's your device?
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I talked to the developer he said you are the only one who did this process wrong. So yes you are the dumb one. Go ask him what you did wrong. Please stop trying to make yourself any smarter or someone else's fault.
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Edit'd.
Dear OP,
Looks like Grnlantern79 did your homework for you!
I took a pretty good chunk of time to compile a beginner's Q&A thread that answers virtually every beginner question. As Einstein said, the difference between stupid and genius is that genius has it's limits (as in, stupid has NO limits). I think I speak for every developer out here when I say it's impossible to predict how "ignorant" a potential user is going to be. There's a very real expectation that guys like you are going to school themselves on some basic things. To not assume that puts a LOT of explanatory work on guys like Grnlantern79, myself, and others, that's simply not needed for the VAST majority of folks out there.
I've been bumping around the Tbolt forums for a while now. I can't recall ever seeing anything describing what you attempted to do. I know you didn't find it in any radio thread here, on Rootzwiki, or teamBAMF.com, which are the only places that have respectable radio listings. Clearly you didn't read my thread either. In fact, you somehow managed to avoid a tremendous wealth of information!
The answer to your question is you're SOL. It's that simple. You did at least two stupid things, probably more, and it can only be accounted for by deliberately avoiding/neglecting knowledge. First, you didn't check the MD5. An MD5 is ONLY valid when it's checked on the root of your SDcard. Second, you had no idea what software you were dealing with; either the radios or this flash utility. Bad radio flashes, even through hboot, will brick your device. They are NOT recoverable. Even if you'd done whatever you were trying to do correctly, your neglect of verifying the file could have bricked it.
So, when you get your new device, I HIGHLY recommend reading my thread and following the directions to the letter. I can promise you that you will not accomplish anything more with what you were (possibly) trying to do than what I've laid out already using well tested and highly reliable means.
And with all due respect, please do some reading around here. Between XDA and Rootzwiki, you will learn almost everything you'll ever need sans the дезинформация.
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Dear OP,
Looks like Grnlantern79 did your homework for you!
I took a pretty good chunk of time to compile a beginner's Q&A thread that answers virtually every beginner question. As Einstein said, the difference between stupid and genius is that genius has it's limits (as in, stupid has NO limits). I think I speak for every developer out here when I say it's impossible to predict how "ignorant" a potential user is going to be. There's a very real expectation that guys like you are going to school themselves on some basic things. To not assume that puts a LOT of explanatory work on guys like Grnlantern79, myself, and others, that's simply not needed for the VAST majority of folks out there.
I've been bumping around the Tbolt forums for a while now. I can't recall ever seeing anything describing what you attempted to do. I know you didn't find it in any radio thread here, on Rootzwiki, or teamBAMF.com, which are the only places that have respectable radio listings. Clearly you didn't read my thread either. In fact, you somehow managed to avoid a tremendous wealth of information!
The answer to your question is you're SOL. It's that simple. You did at least two stupid things, probably more, and it can only be accounted for by deliberately avoiding/neglecting knowledge. First, you didn't check the MD5. An MD5 is ONLY valid when it's checked on the root of your SDcard. Second, you had no idea what software you were dealing with; either the radios or this flash utility. Bad radio flashes, even through hboot, will brick your device. They are NOT recoverable. Even if you'd done whatever you were trying to do correctly, your neglect of verifying the file could have bricked it.
So, when you get your new device, I HIGHLY recommend reading my thread and following the directions to the letter. I can promise you that you will not accomplish anything more with what you were (possibly) trying to do than what I've laid out already using well tested and highly reliable means.
And with all due respect, please do some reading around here. Between XDA and Rootzwiki, you will learn almost everything you'll ever need sans the дезинформация.
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+1
I said all that but I am a man of short words, for you few on this thread that say I am an ass, to each his own I have went out of my way to help people I don't know but i gave him a direct answer under OP and he fired back at me, after that yes I was an ass but no matter what info you guys give him you can't fix stupid.
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I think we're done here.
Anyone here on xda used this successfully??
re:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...2777-evo-4g-lte-1-22-651-3-root-easy.html#anb
WTF do people take DEVs threads and post them on the her sites is beyond me. Rega's name want even mentioned. His thread was copied and pasted word for word. And the guy mentions its not his work and thanks to the guys who made it. Jezz, seriously irritates me. Not you lol. Here's the original thread you want http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Msor people here used it including myself. I used it with the older version. But the dev is a cool dude. He'll help ya in any way he can.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
reverepats said:
Here's the original thread you want http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Msor people here used it including myself. I used it with the older version. But the dev is a cool dude. He'll help ya in any way he can.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
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Ah good to know.
So it works fine for partial ROOT - so you can flash ROMs etc?
Thanks.
ronnienyc said:
Ah good to know.
So it works fine for partial ROOT - so you can flash ROMs etc?
Thanks.
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Yes this will set you up to do all that. . Best part is, that it wont report to HTC that you Unlocked your bootloader. The conventional way would report it to HTC and void your warranty. It will also ssh TWRP recovery and install SU and busy box. Please, just make sure you read the directions thoroughly. Make sure u have e the correct drivers and such. About e the directions you'll see all the requirements before running the MOD. Any troubles, just post your questions there. Rega's awesome. After you'll be all set to flash ROMs and such. There are a couple of limitations without S-Off but it doesn't sound like you wanna go to far.
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Yes, I have used Rega's tool on other phones in the past. I just didn't know this was available for this 651.3 version on this phone.
Just started using the Evo LTE about a week ago, and I am hoping to instsall Mean ROM to make it a little more responsive
Also, my phone already says "TAMPERED."
Is there any way to get rid of that?
reverepats said:
Yes this will set you up to do all that. . Best part is, that it wont report to HTC that you Unlocked your bootloader. The conventional way would report it to HTC and void your warranty. It will also ssh TWRP recovery and install SU and busy box. Please, just make sure you read the directions thoroughly. Make sure u have e the correct drivers and such. About e the directions you'll see all the requirements before running the MOD. Any troubles, just post your questions there. Rega's awesome. After you'll be all set to flash ROMs and such. There are a couple of limitations without S-Off but it doesn't sound like you wanna go to far.
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Im pretty new to android so forgive me, but im looking to unlock and root using this method but i see it uses htcdev.com.
am i incorrect in saying that going with htcdev.com method my warrant WILL be voided? or am i missing sumthing.
eddy0090 said:
Im pretty new to android so forgive me, but im looking to unlock and root using this method but i see it uses htcdev.com.
am i incorrect in saying that going with htcdev.com method my warrant WILL be voided? or am i missing sumthing.
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Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
fachadick said:
Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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gotcha. thanks. one more dumb question, not really sure what s-on s-off is. and do i need to be s-off if i want to flash custom roms?
thanks again this community kicks a$$!
eddy0090 said:
gotcha. thanks. one more dumb question, not really sure what s-on s-off is. and do i need to be s-off if i want to flash custom roms?
thanks again this community kicks a$$!
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To answer the easier question first, no, you don't have to be s-off to flash roms.
As to what it is and what it means, once you go to Regaw's thread, hit his name, go to his stats, and check out the link of threads that he's started. He did a pretty good write up on what s-off is, and what it means.
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To answer the easier question first, no, you don't have to be s-off to flash roms.
As to what it is and what it means, once you go to Regaw's thread, hit his name, go to his stats, and check out the link of threads that he's started. He did a pretty good write up on what s-off is, and what it means.
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will do thanks much!
fachadick said:
Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
jbhorner said:
I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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no, you're not incorrect - HTC will have the devices information on file as part of the token, but they will not have your name and registration information. This does not prove that the phone was unlocked, only that the unlock information was requested for your phone. As an fyi also, the fine print states that htc specific warranty may be voided by unlocking, not that it will be.
jbhorner said:
I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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They will only have a record that you REQUESTED an unlock code. There is no way they can prove that you actually USED it, unless your device obviously says "UNLOCKED" or "RELOCKED" in the bootloader (which it invariably will until S-OFF is achieved for the new HBOOT).
Besides the fact that no one ever sends their device back to HTC for service, so it's not typically relevant anyway.
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Besides the fact that no one ever sends their device back to HTC for service, so it's not typically relevant anyway.
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I just did. Sprint only has a 15 day warranty on phones now (unless you purchase the insurance.) And mine was a couple months old, with a borked antenna and dropping calls. So it is off to HTC for a warranty repair/replacement.
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I just did. Sprint only has a 15 day warranty on phones now (unless you purchase the insurance.) And mine was a couple months old, with a borked antenna and dropping calls. So it is off to HTC for a warranty repair/replacement.
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I guess if you don't want to pay Sprint the $35 to have them fix it, then yes, you'd have to send it back to HTC, but if they determine there's nothing wrong with the phone, they just send it back to you unfixed, and at your expense. That's why I'm going to try and never send anything back to them .
reverepats I never took any credit it was not brought up on AC before so I was just trying to help people out because there was a lot of threads of people asking how to root the new update so i dont get why your mad about this? Far as being a word for word copy it was not so dont go there some things may be close but I put up a link to his thread and gave credit
Nothing changed since this thread opened, got a new question just jump to page 2
I am well aware that till now unless you have a developer phone with CID 11111111 you can't gain SuperCID which will make you able to S-Off your device (For those who are not aware what is S-Off , Its making the security on your bootloader "off" hence enabling you to flash your roms without the need to fastboot flash your boot.img)
But on a developer side, what do the devs need for the "Great Dream" of S-Off to be achieved for all of us?
Files, source codes , exploits. What exactly?
I am aware that this topic has seen the light of day more than once, but every time this topic is opened, no more than a week later its "dead". Why is it THAT impossible to figure out?
I am vaguely aware that it has something to do with the "Tegra 3" chip, but why? If it has something to do with the "Source Code" is there a class talking about security that the devs just removes from the equation then flashes it instead?
I am quite interested in this topic and I tried to look around, but I don't really know the process of what is actually going on under the hood. So Any general help/discussion is welcomed (and encouraged) . If anyone with any "IDEA" about how its done wanna join in (even if he isn't quite sure) or if a DEV from another device did it and can help please do. It's basically a GENERAL discusison that might help brainstorm some ideas .
As always, links to other threads explaining the whole process is welcomed, but just please don't reply with "IDK" because that's basically considered spam
I Also found this out : HTCDev.com uploaded a couple of source codes about their kernel : http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads which includes the HOX+ if that will be of any help.
Final words: I know that this thread won't probably magically just solve it, But it's just mostly for me and other users to learn
Edit: Since its not really a Q&A Section and more of a general discussion in my opinion so I posted it in general because I want all devs to just talk, since its not really an "Answer the question" thread. MODs you can move the thread if you find it in the wrong section, thank you.
~Ghandour
SuperCID is not a prerequisite to S-Off. Infact it's the other way round, you need to remove the security flag (S-Off) before you have the nessesary permission to modify your Carrier-ID. .
There are ways for end users to attain S-Off but it's either very pricey (Buying a SETool box/Card/Credits and using LGTool to S-Off) or very risky (Sending your phone to someone who already has the equipment to S-Off your phone and hope they dont steel it) lol
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AndroHero said:
SuperCID is not a prerequisite to S-Off. Infact it's the other way round, you need to remove the security flag (S-Off) before you have the nessesary permission to modify your Carrier-ID. .
There are ways for end users to attain S-Off but it's either very pricey (Buying a SETool box/Card/Credits and using LGTool to S-Off) or very risky (Sending your phone to someone who already has the equipment to S-Off your phone and hope they dont steel it) lol
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OH I forgot to mention, I am well aware that you can S-Off your device using expensive equipment (javacard) and so forth and so on, but this thread was meant for pure normal S-Off the old fashioned way, which you can do without any fancy equipment. Because I am sure that the other phones that can be "S-Off"ed don't really require you to buy all those tools. ^^
They can but it's alot harder for us because of our Tegra SOC's.
I've always wondered why we dont start a donation thread, we could raise the money for the equipment and give it to a trusted member to buy (Someone like lloir but with more time) Then the members who donated could send their phone to this trusted member and get it S-Off'd...
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AndroHero said:
They can but it's alot harder for us because of our Tegra SOC's.
I've always wondered why we dont start a donation thread, we could raise the money for the equipment and give it to a trusted member to buy (Someone like lloir but with more time) Then the members who donated could send their phone to this trusted member and get it S-Off'd...
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Well there is a thread about sending your phone to the US to an XDA Member with a java card somewhere around but that's not the point at all....
The thread was meant to understand why is it hard? Why can't it be achieved? What is the issue exactly? (From a developer's point of view)
I found this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057105
EDIT: This thread is helpful however the thread remains unsolved. What exploits do the dev try to find when trying to figure out a way to S-Off the device? Leaked DIAG zips ?
Because I am aware that the "S-ON" Policy is mostly only done by HTC. So How are other phones exploited? For example, the HTC One has a fully functional FULL S-OFF : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644
So Does this App contains the "Diag" zip found in the app or what? Any dev explanation would be helpful.
Attaining SuperCID
I attempted attaining SuperCID by combining this method with this information about the HOX+. It does not appear to have changed anything, so it looks like that part of the memory can't be modified, which probably rules out any method similar to that.
WindyCityRockr said:
I attempted attaining SuperCID by combining this method with this information about the HOX+. It does not appear to have changed anything, so it looks like that part of the memory can't be modified, which probably rules out any method similar to that.
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Alright, So the issue we are talking about here is that the memory doesn't become saved. So the exploit basically will make it become saved.
So can't we talk about repeating the process over and over and over again till it actually works? Can't we remove the usb in the middle of the process and force a hard reboot?
Tell you what, I think i might try this out. Let's hope the phone keeps on running QQ
"Theoratically" speaking, what if we copy all that partition of the storage to our PC, format the partition then we push it. I know there will be a huge risk of break but in theory can this work without breaking the phone?
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Alright, So the issue we are talking about here is that the memory doesn't become saved. So the exploit basically will make it become saved.
So can't we talk about repeating the process over and over and over again till it actually works? Can't we remove the usb in the middle of the process and force a hard reboot?
Tell you what, I think i might try this out. Let's hope the phone keeps on running QQ
"Theoratically" speaking, what if we copy all that partition of the storage to our PC, format the partition then we push it. I know there will be a huge risk of break but in theory can this work without breaking the phone?
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Im willing to try whatever you want with my AT&T HOX+. Its a second phone that i dont use anyways. Just let me know what you want me to try. I would love S-OFF on it because then it might become useful to me.
m1ke420 said:
Im willing to try whatever you want with my AT&T HOX+. Its a second phone that i dont use anyways. Just let me know what you want me to try. I would love S-OFF on it because then it might become useful to me.
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Well I admit that I don't have experience with development yet so I can't ask you to brick your phone with "false" claims So That's out of the question for me. HOWEVER, If any exploit is discovered since I have an international phone , AT&T will be required to test it as well.. But that's not for the near future on my part .. haha and generally speaking if any dev wants you to risk your phone before he risks his then he is not worthy imo.
Anyway back to topic:
Now for the general understanding @WindyCityRockr This post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671396 says that you pull a file edit it with HEX Code editor and then push it again. I read somewhere that someone changed the paritition setup so basically the "SDCard" became a whole different partition. Can you elaborate on what file you pulled and tried? Where to find it if the location changed?
EDIT: I found it in the root section /dev/block/ the mmc files are there
What I understand is that the "unlock_code.bin" gained from HTCDev makes you gain partial unlock, Did anyone try to edit that file? I mean Maybe the key answer lies in that file. Maybe if you can edit this file then you flash it maybe you gain S-Off?
Now generally speaking, if you are unlocked with S-ON, on other devices where you can use an app to gain S-Off, do you need to relock your bootloader and flash RUU and stock recovery before you try to S-Off your device? What will happen if you dont.
Anyway I will try to load up the file and inspect it abit then report back
Would be a pleasure if more devs join in.
Problem with S-Off on OneX/X+ exists because of different hardware between this phones and any other HTCs. For now there is no way to restore Your phone even with JTAG (tegra has disabled JTAG). No one know what is exactly needed to repair baseband/IMEI after direct flashing eMMC. We can restore phone, but baseband is still dead. We know also there are 3 chips needed to be paired. CPU, eMMC and XGold 626. If You change only one of them- phone has no IMEI, being SIM locked or boot only in bootloader. There is also problem with bootloader- is locked. That's why You can't totaly brick Your phone. There is no way to change anything in bootloader, so We can't S-off phone. Probably even with Java card. I have some diag files for OneX, but not working. We stuck. We need to know how to get SBK for Tegra 3
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Problem with S-Off on OneX/X+ exists because of different hardware between this phones and any other HTCs. For now there is no way to restore Your phone even with JTAG (tegra has disabled JTAG). No one know what is exactly needed to repair baseband/IMEI after direct flashing eMMC. We can restore phone, but baseband is still dead. We know also there are 3 chips needed to be paired. CPU, eMMC and XGold 626. If You change only one of them- phone has no IMEI, being SIM locked or boot only in bootloader. There is also problem with bootloader- is locked. That's why You can't totaly brick Your phone. There is no way to change anything in bootloader, so We can't S-off phone. Probably even with Java card. I have some diag files for OneX, but not working. We stuck. We need to know how to get SBK for Tegra 3
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Alright, just let me comment or rather ask about some few points.
-I get that the international version and AT&T are different , one having LTE and the other dont, so does that mean that the S-Off here will be different between the international and the AT&T? If so, which is easier?
-You said if you change only one you become sim-locked, So did anyone succeed in changing one permenantly?
-There was a thread saying that you can make a backup of your IMEI folder and paste it , shouldn't that fix the IMEI issue?
-So you are saying even with a Java card and the original DIAGs we can't S-Off? How is that possible even though there are people who actually succeeded in doing so ?
So all these issues will be solved if we get the SBK? [Secure Boot Key] ?
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Alright, just let me comment or rather ask about some few points.
-I get that the international version and AT&T are different , one having LTE and the other dont, so does that mean that the S-Off here will be different between the international and the AT&T? If so, which is easier?
-You said if you change only one you become sim-locked, So did anyone succeed in changing one permenantly?
-There was a thread saying that you can make a backup of your IMEI folder and paste it , shouldn't that fix the IMEI issue?
-So you are saying even with a Java card and the original DIAGs we can't S-Off? How is that possible even though there are people who actually succeeded in doing so ?
So all these issues will be solved if we get the SBK? [Secure Boot Key] ?
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International and AT&T are different. International has Tegra3 CPU, AT&T is standard Snapdragon phone. It's just OneS in One X skin. So. probably for this last OneS S-Off solution should be working after some modifications. Need to ask some good devs. This version is also supported for JTAG flashing, IMEI repair etc.
Almost all HTCs has standard Qualcomm processors (even HTC One) and similar construction. International OneX is different. Completly different CPU (and GPU), different and locked by Nvidia bootloader. Security flags are in bootloader, so, We can't even touch it.
-I never heard about anyone who change any of this parts and bring phone to live. If anyone can do this- probably We can do everything else, incluging Bootloader security status changing (S-on/off)
-Yes, backup will help. But only if You still have original parts on Your PCB. If You change anything important- backup will not help You. To check how it's working We need to get 2 OneX with same version of SW, clean and not touched. Make backups and look inside. Mayby We can find differences and make solution for EFS repair. The sad things is 90% of broken OneX has HW problem, not SW.
- Still I have not Java card (White Card), but it's probably some universal device for new HTC models, but I'm affraid it can not work with International OneX, because of additional Tegra3 security. But mayby Java Card has some Tegra Security unlock instruction inside. Who knows
- I know some people just buy unlocked devices (for devs). Like I said before, I don't know how Java card is working, if it can disable Tegra security, then bootloader can be fully unlocked.
- Fater get SBK We can unlock bootloader, but for IMEI repair We need to understand OneX EFS construction, to know what should be change to see our IMEI and whole Radio back
For now I'm waiting for Z3X team progres on repair Nvidias HTC, they can directly flash eMMC, now, They're working on repair broken IMEI etc. That's the goal now.
Correction: ATT Model is Tegra 3
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Correction: ATT Model is Tegra 3
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 4
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No way! http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
AT&T One X has snapdragon cpu
AT&T One X"+" has Tegra3
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
This is a One X+ thread go talk about One X elsewhere. AT&T One X+ is a Tegra 3 model.
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This is a One X+ thread go talk about One X elsewhere. AT&T One X+ is a Tegra 3 model.
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Chillax bro, LoLzZzZ (so swag, i know) . Well Since both phones do have similar hardware, except the AT&T One X , So the ideas are joined. So even if you own a tegra 3 HOX, it's fine that you post here if you have something to say. I think he just misread the forum , its fine
Yeah, sorry, I was reading posts on HOX and HOX+ forums and just wrote on bad section. Sorry again, but HOX and HOX+ are similar phones. HOX+ has a little better CPU. S-off problem is same, Nvidia security is probably same. So, We still can't do anything.
I don't know much about programming, but if We can unlock bootloader via HTCdev, then must be some backdoor on Nvidia security, or mayby seucrity is disabled during bootloader unlocking operation. Mayby this is the way. Or mayby this part of bootloader security is somewhere else and Nvidia key not blocking this. I don't know. Any Dev is needed here.
Gotta love it when I resurrect an old thread (oh resurrect. Such a big word)
I've been wondering for quite a while about this question.
Turing on "Power saving" mode in the sense rom, turns down your CPU to 1.3GHZ, which means it UNDERCLOCKS your device. Correct me If I am wrong, if you are S-On you neither can underclock nor overclock your cpu . Right?
I know this has been thought by other great developers before, but is there no way to de-compile just the power saving function and inspecting to see how it gains the S-Off access? I mean the answer must be there.
Just thought I'd offer a free service to obtain root using Sam's method. I do not speak any other language than English not to discriminate however I can translate using google translate just be sure to use propper spelling. Seen a lot of people having trouble. With respect to Sampwnd users may feel free to contact me, however, it's on a time consented basis adherent to my schedule. Contact me at a time and I will put it in my calendar and contact you, I do read all messages. New members will get priority as I feel a great learning experience could push someone new into the scene.
Requirements:
Windows OS or Virtualbox Windows
Mac OSX Lion or higher
New User (Admin Privileges)
No personal information
No incriminating devices
Good intentions for obtaining root.
Click thanks after you've been taken care of.
Yes please
Please help me with this
Sassygreen said:
Please help me with this
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pm contact details on the best way to instant message or get in contact
hey i was wondering if you possibly give us some insight to your methods, here in this thread? Possibly some steps, apps, youtube links? Would love to help spread the knowledge!
Well it really just vary's from the type of phone you have, Getting the MSL without root is a pain, however once rooted, you are than able to control anything in the phone i.e what's locked and unlocked. Know and understand that the letters ending after the base model numbers determine a big factor, such as G955UF is a unlocked world version of the 7 plus, it doesn't use the USA version of snap dragon. When the port was created and or root process it it was built off a certan type of model, few adjustments may be needed, i suggest checking out Android Studios, it comes with android dev packaging to help you kick start.
Download:
Sampwnd all neccesary files from the thread D
Download both odins
and download ADB and fast boot.
I will say this, with odin once you put the 4 files in, you need to boot into download moad, once you see the blue screen pop up then plug in your phone and if your mac you type ADB if your windows its ./ADB youll know if it connected or not.
It's pretty simple, I just think alot of people get stuck, so I am willing to hel.
ReqNet said:
Well it really just vary's from the type of phone you have, Getting the MSL without root is a pain, however once rooted, you are than able to control anything in the phone i.e what's locked and unlocked. Know and understand that the letters ending after the base model numbers determine a big factor, such as G955UF is a unlocked world version of the 7 plus, it doesn't use the USA version of snap dragon. When the port was created and or root process it it was built off a certan type of model, few adjustments may be needed, i suggest checking out Android Studios, it comes with android dev packaging to help you kick start.
Download:
Sampwnd all neccesary files from the thread D
Download both odins
and download ADB and fast boot.
I will say this, with odin once you put the 4 files in, you need to boot into download moad, once you see the blue screen pop up then plug in your phone and if your mac you type ADB if your windows its ./ADB youll know if it connected or not.
It's pretty simple, I just think alot of people get stuck, so I am willing to hel.
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And stuck i definitely am. I now have root so what would be your next step in unlocking? Can you suggest a protocol or website or tools that are used?
I understand its easy to buy an unlock but i would really love to learn this process.
cabg.kepr said:
And stuck i definitely am. I now have root so what would be your next step in unlocking? Can you suggest a protocol or website or tools that are used?
I understand its easy to buy an unlock but i would really love to learn this process.
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Firstly, congratulations on root.
Give "MSL Code Finder" a search within the play store, root only apps are generally a good area to search within, I couldn't throw a name on one, as my time with development on the G955U is pretty much over, i'm on to some other brands to provide more attention to. However should you need any further assistance, i can use teamviewer to connect and help you out.
ReqNet said:
Just thought I'd offer a free service to obtain root using Sam's method. I do not speak any other language than English not to discriminate however I can translate using google translate just be sure to use propper spelling. Seen a lot of people having trouble. With respect to Sampwnd users may feel free to contact me, however, it's on a time consented basis adherent to my schedule. Contact me at a time and I will put it in my calendar and contact you, I do read all messages. New members will get priority as I feel a great learning experience could push someone new into the scene.
Requirements:
Windows OS or Virtualbox Windows
Mac OSX Lion or higher
New User (Admin Privileges)
No personal information
No incriminating devices
Good intentions for obtaining root.
Click thanks after you've been taken care of.
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I am interested in rooting my first Android phone after switching from an iPhone for almost ten years, aside from a Note 3 that I had for a few months. I have the S8+ and am pretty technically inclined, although I had a Note 3, I bricked it during my learning experience. I just don't trust myself to do it correctly at this point, I absolutely need to be able to use the app "Amazon Flex" and I am told there is way to hide the root, even though they use a certain method but I am understanding have been told that there are other options available for me to hide the root from this app. If you are willing to help me, I am willing to learn. I appreciate your time and look forward your response. I have the SM-G955U
Noah
nbraunstein said:
I am interested in rooting my first Android phone after switching from an iPhone for almost ten years, aside from a Note 3 that I had for a few months. I have the S8+ and am pretty technically inclined, although I had a Note 3, I bricked it during my learning experience. I just don't trust myself to do it correctly at this point, I absolutely need to be able to use the app "Amazon Flex" and I am told there is way to hide the root, even though they use a certain method but I am understanding have been told that there are other options available for me to hide the root from this app. If you are willing to help me, I am willing to learn. I appreciate your time and look forward your response. I have the SM-G955U
Noah
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I also have that smg955u. Is that Sprint network you're on
Hey watch out for this guy, everyone. He lives in my hometown and he's really shady. He'll hop on TeamViewer and rummage through your devices and networks.
He sold me a phone with an unpaid balance and told me he could unlock it quickly through TeamViewer. After 3 days (about 12 total hours spent) spent, I eventually told him no thanks. He got very offended and started acting weird.. Even told me he had hacked my network through my television? Haha, anyway, be careful with this guy.
PS. Just in case he's moved to a different name, he uses a strange syntax in his sentences.. There's just something off about it. Its how I was able to recognize him on here.
PPS. I have his name and location if anyone else has been burnt by this guy.
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I have no idea what he is talking about nor have I even spoke to him on here. Requesting a removal, and moved to a different section should he want to escalate. This is or was a free service that i DO in my free time to help people.
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If you have evidence of wrongdoing, then click report and mod staff will look into it. Otherwise, do not make public accusations.
Please note, all things flashed or used on xda are done so at your own risk. If users are being charged, scammed, or devices harmed, then please gather concrete evidence and use the report post system or contact a moderator or administrator directly.
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ReqNet said:
I have no idea what he is talking about nor have I even spoke to him on here. Requesting a removal, and moved to a different section should he want to escalate. This is or was a free service that i DO in my free time to help people.
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requesting a closure of this thread due to recent allegations.
Thread closed by OP request.