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I switched from Rogers to Fido, been getting bye on 500mb/wifi with never a problem... now I been on fido for 6 days and it says I already used 600mb of my 1 gig!?
I am mostly home currently (wifi)... so I have NO idea what is going on. Is there a way to see what and if something is using a lot of data all of a sudden? Or is fido just getting me
Update! So I installed the free version of 3g watchdog.... and ironically enough, it shows that it is incoming data that is HIGH! Oddly high.... but how can I know what exactly it is? It is pretty weird that I have gone all those years using 500mb, and now I have used 1.02gigs in 2 weeks.... I have even stopped things from doing auto/refresh sync etc... and the last couple of days, I had network data off entirely.... because of overages?
thx in advance
I use 3g watchdog to track my data useage. It seems to work pretty well.
That data useage is pretty high!... sure you not acidentally using your phone as a wireless tether?
yea, considering I been home all week... and in the last 2 years, I been able to get by under 500mb a month....
I will try that app, but I really do not think anything on my phone is that active... heh.
Data Nil
I use Quick Settings to turn Mobile Data APN off .
jje
I know this does not make a lot of sense.... and I am not sure what I am expecting, lol.... but I do not see how I can be using this much data.. while NOT doing anything different, barely running background data, not streaming etc....
I updated OP
halp!
You left the wifi counter on in 3g watchdog
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it is not watchdog I am using to see total data.... I am going by my fido app.... and that says I am over my 1 gig limit
but thx
Big thanks to the group of testers that PM'd me!
I posted a guide for you guys to unthrottle yourself.
DISCLAIMER: STILL UNDER TESTING AND METHODS MAY BE PATCHED
Sorry but I'm not going to repost the guide here. Giving you guys a link to the thread because I promised you guys I would write one.
Thank you very much for your resource! However, when I put the APN settings into my phone, there is no radio button to select the HSPA+ APN. Do you happen to have a solution for me?
mchao92 said:
Thank you very much for your resource! However, when I put the APN settings into my phone, there is no radio button to select the HSPA+ APN. Do you happen to have a solution for me?
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I would recommend doing it from APN manager rather than from the stock settings menu. You should have more luck with that.
Stock settings menu is very finicky.
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Big thanks to the group of testers that PM'd me!
I posted a guide for you guys to unthrottle yourself.
DISCLAIMER: STILL UNDER TESTING AND METHODS MAY BE PATCHED
Sorry but I'm not going to repost the guide here. Giving you guys a link to the thread because I promised you guys I would write one.
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Good stuff bro. I got unthrottled this month using the first method by switching from atrix to note
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When I tried method one back on my skyrocket, using a blackberry, the blackberry data plan did not work with my android phone. Most guides tell you that you need to call and switch your data plan back to tte phone you want to use. It doesn't matter that it reverts you to the original phone, it is the fact that the throttled plan is initially removed.
Next time I get throttled I'm going to try switching data plans through the My Att apparently, which should also ttrigger the removal of the throttled data plan. Save me the hassle of having to call.
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Also the APN should be:
Name: whatever u want
APN: phone
APN type: internet
The separately for mms:
Name: whatever
APN: all that cingular junk
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APN type: MMS
The reason it did not have a radio button for u is because you set it to only mms (which is what the guide told you to do without stating it was for mms only).
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When I tried method one back on my skyrocket, using a blackberry, the blackberry data plan did not work with my android phone. Most guides tell you that you need to call and switch your data plan back to tte phone you want to use. It doesn't matter that it reverts you to the original phone, it is the fact that the throttled plan is initially removed.
Next time I get throttled I'm going to try switching data plans through the My Att apparently, which should also ttrigger the removal of the throttled data plan. Save me the hassle of having to call.
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That's why you can do it with any HSPA android IMEI.
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Also the APN should be:
Name: whatever u want
APN: phone
APN type: internet
The separately for mms:
Name: whatever
APN: all that cingular junk
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APN type: MMS
The reason it did not have a radio button for u is because you set it to only mms (which is what the guide told you to do without stating it was for mms only).
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Thanks. Forgot to divide the APNs. Updated guide.
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We already know that's not the case though. If AT&T forced everyone over, there would be a public outcry from 100% of the unlimited users. But right now, only 5% of those users are being hurt by this.
Getting throttled while using 2gb is NOT abuse of the network.
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And those two percent cave in.....and tier theirplan to enjoy service again.
Allowing at&t to grab the next 2% to refill the top 5%.
They are killing it softly.
Had a friend to cave in. I was there when he was throttled once. It was like stoneage edge network....no thanks!
T_T
Maroon, this insanity must stop! Post after post, chockfull of relevant and usefully info......at this rate I'm going to run out of thanks, show some mercy. Oh hell, thanks again Maroon!
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And those two percent cave in.....and tier theirplan to enjoy service again.
Allowing at&t to grab the next 2% to refill the top 5%.
They are killing it softly.
Had a friend to cave in. I was there when he was throttled once. It was like stoneage edge network....no thanks!
T_T
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I'm going to stay on unlimited no matter what.
There's no way they're going to make me pay more than 30/month just to access the internet.
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Maroon, this insanity must stop! Post after post, chockfull of relevant and usefully info......at this rate I'm going to run out of thanks, show some mercy. Oh hell, thanks again Maroon!
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Changing the imei doesn't always work... Was throttled on day two of having the note, showing zero data used. Apn trick from skyrocket forums undid it ) and the rep told me, any unlimited user that uses more than 1.5 GB is in "throttle ville"... Total BS!
Well on the way to my fairytale!
Glad to know this is working...it became hit or miss on the skyrockets recently
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I told you the apn method worked before like i used on the skyrocket and you shot me down saying it doesn't work. Been using this method for months
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Big thanks to the group of testers that PM'd me!
I posted a guide for you guys to unthrottle yourself.
DISCLAIMER: STILL UNDER TESTING AND METHODS MAY BE PATCHED
Sorry but I'm not going to repost the guide here. Giving you guys a link to the thread because I promised you guys I would write one.
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Let me get this straight...you have to create an additional APN to MMS? You can't MMS with the HSPA+ APN?You can still text message right?
New data Untrottle Method
Hi, hows everyone? I was messing around and found another way to unthrottle data speeds on the at&t network. i have a motorola atrix 2 as my device and found this new technique useful as well with a few other devices. so lets get started first you must have your device rooted, second, program your device to get free tethering, after taking care of this, the last step is crucial. on the beginning of your cycle (which is on the 6 of every month i believe) connect your device to your p.c. via usb and activate usb tether. now this is crucial in order for it to work once your device is giving your p.c. internet access use up at least 7 GB of data on your pc not your device. so basically use 7 GB of data via usb tethering. a helpful tip would be to download My data manager, it helps you track how much data is being consumed during your plan cycle. after this unplug your devise from you pc and now your data speed should be at normal speed no throttle. remember do this process at the very beginning of every month of your plan cycle.
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Hi, hows everyone? I was messing around and found another way to unthrottle data speeds on the at&t network. i have a motorola atrix 2 as my device and found this new technique useful as well with a few other devices. so lets get started first you must have your device rooted, second, program your device to get free tethering, after taking care of this, the last step is crucial. on the beginning of your cycle (which is on the 6 of every month i believe) connect your device to your p.c. via usb and activate usb tether. now this is crucial in order for it to work once your device is giving your p.c. internet access use up at least 7 GB of data on your pc not your device. so basically use 7 GB of data via usb tethering. a helpful tip would be to download My data manager, it helps you track how much data is being consumed during your plan cycle. after this unplug your devise from you pc and now your data speed should be at normal speed no throttle. remember do this process at the very beginning of every month of your plan cycle.
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Oh yeah! What a great solution. Waste 7GB on your PC to somehow avoid throttling. And you want to know why ATT throttles?
Seeing as current data plans max at 5GB and the old unlimited offered 6GB using 7GB would push you past your limit and you would start incurring data overage charges and be screwed for the whole month.
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well its what i accidentally found out while bored. my internet at home was down etc. and i remembered that i could use the tethering on my phone so i hooked it up. after watching a few movies on netflix i realized that i had gone over 7gb on my grandfathered unlimited data plan. when i disconnected my phone i realized i received no message on my phone about the 5% heavy data users and i also noticed that for the rest of my plan cycle, my data speed was unaffected. so to prove my theory i tried it again the next month and it seems to work. this is just a suggestion seeing as at&t has no right to expect me to pay unlimited data then throttle it, screw them.
Actually they do. It's in the contract you signed. Am I entitled to some of the food me and my roommates buy? Yes. Am I entitled to eat all of it? No. Stop acting like the world owes you.something.
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Ok Guys We are definately onto something here and I hope to test the theory, The story starts like this, I bought a s1 a while back and was using it on three uk, every day at 3pm it got throttled down to 30k a sec, pathetic, well About 2 weeks ago I acquired a ascend p1, Got it home slapped my sim card in it got to three oclock no throttle ! I thought it must be because the phone supported 21Mbps download so was faster and thought no more of it, but every now and then the internet would crash for about a minute or 2, so I installed logcat and got the output and it was mentioning android/server/throttleservice as the culprit,well I got peeved with this so 4 days ago I got the s3 because I thought it too would be not throttled because it supported the same speed 21Mbps , well it got to 3 oclock and band throttled again, now its all starting to make sense, I think the network is able to tell if you are tethering or using a hotspot as the phone is telling it by accessing phone state in the same way as any other app,
flashing this zip http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346680 saw a huge increase in speed but still got throttled
QUOTE : "Can anybody tell me what is wrong?" Nothing ThrottleService is not part of your app and the error is not intended to concern you. It's a system service that seems to be able to throttle the network traffic (I guess for testing) – zapl Nov 29 '12 at 18:57
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This has happened to me when I accidentally removed the following line from the manifest:
<uses-permission android:name="android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_ST ATE" />
Once I added it back there everything came back to normal.
I hope this helps.
Source: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1...-network-stats
Was my 1st clue
this was my second http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057344
this is the logcat of the ascend p1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127311
it was not throttled even on a stock Rom !
To test this theory I'm asking if somebody could be good enough make a flashable zip of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2057344 for any s3 rom to test the theory? this could make a huge difference to network speeds, as I say the ascend is not throttled in any way and thats got to be code based. the only thing is that the flashable zip must be for that particular Rom as they aren't generic.
Three uk throttle there speeds between 3pm and 12am. They use a 'technology called SpeedSense. Basically if you are using a lot of bandwith they restrict your speeds to ensure those that havent really used they bandwith to do so. There is nothing we can do as a device because it is all done by your number and tge amount of bandwidth that you have used.
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Three uk throttle there speeds between 3pm and 12am. They use a 'technology called SpeedSense. Basically if you are using a lot of bandwith they restrict your speeds to ensure those that havent really used they bandwith to do so. There is nothing we can do as a device because it is all done by your number and tge amount of bandwidth that you have used.
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Sorry but you are wrong.
Please explain how I am wrong? Have you been on there website at all? Please investigate the core before you get carried away.
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Ok. So I have always just had 4G in my area until recently. I have the APN info to run unthrottled. I have an unlimited data plan and I use my phone for tethering my computer and my xboxs at home. Since it is now LTE now my UNTHROTTLED, APN switches on and off randomly and eventually knocks me back to the regular ATT PTA APN. I want to find a way to lock my phone to 4G only so I can stay on the unthrottled APN so I can at least have 2mbps instead of being throttled down to 500kbps a quarter of the way through the month. Which makes it practically impossible to play xbox games online or stream a movie, Download anything is a headache now. The worst part about it is even the LTE maxes out at 5mbps where I live anyways so it's not like I'm getting 21+ like I do in other LTE areas. Is there anyway around this or should I invest in an Android 4G only phone and just use it while at home? Thanks for any help that someone could give me.
Excessive data use always gets throttled. No way around it. I'm not saying "excessive use", at&t is.
They easily track usage by your sim card and IEMI, so APN settings don't matter.
Actually.....
Actually. With the APN I had it never got throttled. I was doing 46gigs+ a month. Never ever got throttled until it knocked me up to LTE and made my phone skip the un throttled APN.
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Excessive data use always gets throttled. No way around it. I'm not saying "excessive use", at&t is.
They easily track usage by your sim card and IEMI, so APN settings don't matter.
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46GBs? It's about time you did get throttled. 4G and LTE APN's should both be throttled APNs. Try the 3G APN.
I agree, save some bandwidth for the rest of us. I don't know how you haven't had your account closed down yet, or why you weren't throttled using a particular APN for so long. Must have just been network goofiness, because like rangercaptain said, that's not how AT&T tracks you for throttling anyway.
Edit: Moving to a 3G APN shouldn't matter either. Nor would being on a 2G or 3G-only tower. No matter what I'm connected to, I'm still limited to 5GB/month before getting throttled, because that's where grandfathered LTE plans are set. Doesn't matter if I'm actually using LTE or not, it's per-plan.
46+ Gb? Really???? Unbelievable! No, really. Unbelievable. You must mean 4.6 Gb because you'd be turned off, or at least you'd be getting communications from your carrier. I think either you are telling stories or you don't really know what you are talking about.
Johnus is 100% correct for AT&T. You get 5 Gb unthrottled per unlimited plan. Doesn't matter if you consume that 5 Gb using LTE, 4G, 3G, or string and soup cans.
I'm serious. I was getting months of 46 and more gigs without being throttled using one specific APN. The weird thing is now that yesterday I cut my phone on and all my APNs were gone except the default. They don't mess with me because the last time they tried to take me off unlimited for tethering I caused a big scene and kept on getting my call transfered up to a higher and higher management denying the fact that I did it and threatened them with a lawsuit. I already have a FCC complaint set up against them for throttling since it was never notified of agreed to a change in my plan. I was using a 4G APN that had what looked like corporate **** on it because I to this day can't find the info I had that I put in to get away with it. Now that it's LTE now it cuts 4G to completely off to 4G not allowing me to stay online longer than 15mins before it shuts down. That's all erased somehow now. My tethering file is deleted and I use wifitether app to do my tethering and have not been caught while tethering since I did that over 6months ago and for 6months I have been using about 50g a month
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I guess they won.
It's far from over. I'm over 6gigs now and not throttled. Since using the tweakker APN. And I have been told if you file an FCC complaint they will let you run wide open once it gets filed with them. Usually take a month or two. They have so many lawsuits pending right now they can not deal with another.
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..... And in my area, I assure you that my data usage is not effecting any of you. I live 30miles outside of Memphis TN. In the middle of nowhere. A year ago my phone only picked up in one spot in my entire house. The city is so small they banned any towers for going up because of the fear of radiation. I live around a bunch of ignorant rednecks that use Walmart prepaid phones and the only Internet they know of is Hughes Net and the local library.
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Where can I find a full ATT APN list?
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Really not sure I can take anything you say as serious. That said, if you get anywhere with you supposed FCC filing, you'd be the first. The issue has already been tested and AT&T is on firm ground.
This is how you can take me seriously. That shows my data usage.
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Gonna post this months data usage with my Internet speed.. It never shows a tether is being used. It is unexplainable by looking at the phone info where the data is using. Which is also exactly what ATT gets, they have no clue where I'm using so much data.
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506357010/this-months-data-usage-showing-i-havent-been
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506322704/my-speeds-att-4g-lte-unthrottled
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Gonna post this months data usage with my Internet speed.. It never shows a tether is being used. It is unexplainable by looking at the phone info where the data is using. Which is also exactly what ATT gets, they have no clue where I'm using so much data.
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506357010/this-months-data-usage-showing-i-havent-been
http://junkheadinc.tumblr.com/post/45506322704/my-speeds-att-4g-lte-unthrottled
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My apologies. I gotta admit, the proof is in the pics. I know that ATT would normally go ballistic about this so I don't really understand why you're getting away with it. They really don't care what you use the data for. Normally, all they care about is how much data you've used in a month. You are getting away with murder, my man. Good for you!
It's because they have threatened me in the past. I threatened back and they backed off. But it was before I deleted the tether file and used wifi tether app. They busted me for tethering now they can't. Can't tell what I'm using it for. It's like they try to throttle me at certain times. Randomly now that I have LTE coming thru at my home. I was wondering how many others have figured this out. I guess it is just that I threatened to put a lawsuit on them.
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Another speed test. Just to rub it in a bit. Try the route I did. Let me know if it works for you
By the way my Xbox GAMERTAG is junkheadINC for anyone interested in some multiplayer action.
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Try the route I did. Let me know if it works for you.
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Can you give some more info on what you did? I'll give it a go and see if i can pull the wool over their eyes, too.
Nice speedtest results. The upload is incredible.
Hello, I am asking if anyone could possibly give me any insight as to why my data speeds are very very slow for supposedly being 4g? Upon doing the speedtest I got a ping of 67, download score of 3.728 mps and upload score of 1.119 mps. This is the best I have been able to achieve and I am literally a couple hundred yards from a newly built att antenna. At my house about 1 mile and a half away I usually get download and upload scores well under 2.0 and .5.. I am running The Collective's AoCP version 5.7 with the I717UCMD3 modem. By the way on my network mode when I try to select LTE/WCDMA or LTE/GSM/WCDMA it does not stick and goes back to GSM/WCDMA preferred. I have about 5 different APN's and the ATT wap.cingular is the one that sticks and seems to work the best. I am on the straight talk 25$/ mo plan with the additional 1gb of data. Any help would be tremendous!
Are you sure your on at&t straight talk and not tmobile?
What color is your SIM card?
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Are you sure your on at&t straight talk and not tmobile?
What color is your SIM card?
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Yes I am sure.. I have the att white, orange, and blue sim card that I bought from the att store and I pay my bill on the att website.
Update!
After being on the phone with ATT for over an hour and a half I switched to the 60$ per month prepaid plan which gives unlimited calling, texting, and 2gb of data... Only to still have slow internet speeds (around 2mbps max). They tried to send me text messages that would install the internet settings, which did not make it to my phone. Then they scheduled me for an appointment tomorrow morning to get the ATT 4g LTE sim card. They said that it is better for my phone to use that sim instead of the standard sim card and that it is usually 30$ to upgrade but that they would give it to me for free! Then after the call it seems right as the clock stroke 9 pm LTE showed up on the top of my notification bar! The speed test showed as follows in the attachment. I am looking forward to seeing what this new sim card can do for me and I am very pleased at my new speeds!
It sounds like you are in an area that is receiving the LTE upgrade. We are without it still.
Yeah we installed a new tower here on campus last year and I think it really helped. Today I went in to get my new sim card and while I was there it was stuck back on HSDPA+ but when I got home it had gone back to LTE. They said that the custom ROM on my phone may not support LTE and that I may need to get it reset. I just made sure to write down the APN settings in case I lose them on a reboot I can just fix it again myself. So happy with the LTE though as my home internet is only 3mbps!
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HSPA+ = 4G LTE. Some roms have mixed up icons. Its your phone experience that matters, not the icon.
Yeah well with the H+ icon it was around 2mbps and with the LTE icon its around 10-16 Mbps hah and its the same rom. But I think when I turn my phone off it takes a while for my LTE to restore so I'll just try keeping it on at all times!
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In the old days we used to reboot every day, but I probably don't reboot this phone unless I'm swapping sim cards as I leave the USA. I think your reception will improve over time as the network improves. I wonder why it takes the phone a while to "warm up"?
I honestly have no idea. I would say maybe the rom aettings have it set to wmcda preferred and you can't manually change it but after the phone tries using the apn it changes to the lte/gsm/wdcma network mode and it sticks. Oh well no big deal hah I tried the speed test last night at work about 200 yards from the att tower and received 24.5 mbps. Very happy with that!
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I honestly have no idea. I would say maybe the rom aettings have it set to wmcda preferred and you can't manually change it but after the phone tries using the apn it changes to the lte/gsm/wdcma network mode and it sticks. Oh well no big deal hah I got these speeds last night when I was about 200 yards from our att tower.
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