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Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
My mom have the iPad 2 and I love Honeycomb but when compared to iOS its missing a whole lot, especially on apps.
Honeycomb is a new OS for tablets and I see it growing in the future and apps are slowly being ported and optimized for Honeycomb tablets. iOS has been in the market for a while and honeycomb has got some catching up to do.
Buy a tablet for what it is now instead of expecting something out of it and just getting frustrated waiting for an app. I bout a zune HD thinking it will go toe to toe with the iPod touch but was just disappointed and ended up selling it and buying the iPod touch.
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Other than the infamous lag when typing in forums, keyboard speed is fine in every application I've used so far. For some the forum thing is a big deal, and I've worked around it for now by using a remote desktop app if I really feel the need to post an essay using the tab, but obviously that isn't ideal.
As for the keyboard itself, there are plenty to choose from. Swiftkey, Thumb Keyboard and Swype are all excellent alternatives if you don't like the stock HC keyboard or the Samsung one.
The tab comes with Quick Office pre-installed and that will do the job if you want to take notes and read documents. There are about a half dozen office suites and each have their pro's and con's, if you want to learn more about them there is a good comparison thread over at the Asus Transformer forums. They all have a ways to go though before they're suitable for real work with documents however.
For IT, I imagine apps like LogMeIn, Wyse Pocket Cloud, Overlook Fing, andSMB, SharesFinder, ASProxy, Connect Bot, etc would be useful.
to give you an honest answer stick with the Ipad. Everyone on here will try to give you a reach around about why the TAB is so great. But quite frankly in its current state its not. I'm typing this on my tab right now and am getting pissed that my words are showing up well after I press the keys. There are NO USEFULL ANDROID TABLET APPS available at this time. You want proof. Go to the marketplace and see if you van even tell the difference between what is a table app and what isn't. Some tablet apps even have disclaimers stating they aren't even compatible with the GT yet. I purchased my tab because I'm believing in the Modding community will one day provide me with the goodies I crave for use on what is a very (hardware) capable device. But if you want somethingthat just works right now... get an IPAD.
I am still so much on the fence about the GT 10.1 I have a hard time even trying to formulate a reply to this. As I think I go back and forth every 5 minutes.
GT 10.1
+ Android is open, open file system, third party app stores/markets.
+ Wide screen display, higher resolution, and stereo speakers great for videos.
+ Highly customizable with widgets.
+ XDA community usually does great job with custom ROMs.
+ Google apps and Amazon CloudDrive and App Store are great.
- Android 3 is a rush job, screen response not great (not bad either), keyboard lag.
- App crashes and random reboots rare, but happen more than they should.
- Tablet app select still small, and Android app versions sometimes inferior to iOS.
- Uncertainty when Samsung might push the Android 4.0 update, they've been ver slow in the past.
- No Netflix
iPad 2 (I own an iPad 1, so this is mostly about iOS)
+ Over a year head start in tablets, lots of quality apps.
+ iOS versions of some apps are better, Tweetdeck, Tune In Radio, Taptu, etc.
+ Netflix, Hulu Plus (don't care for Hulu, but really miss Netflix on my GT 10.1)
+ iOS very responsive and smooth.
+ Square screen ratio nice for browsing, ebooks.
+ Apple makes software and hardware, so dependable updates.
- No file system access, must use iTunes (usually) to transfer files.
- Google, YouTube apps sucks on iOS.
- No third party application markets (no good Jailbreak for iPad 2, so no Cydia).
- Lower res display, 512MB of RAM.
HG! said:
Hey Fellas,
I'm currently an iPad 2 user. I have a Galaxy S phone (which I love) and won't give it up for an iPhone. I was considering buying a Tab... but I didn't have much of a choice when the iPad 2 came out.
Today I ran into a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (it was AMAZING) and I'm thinking about returning my iPad 2.
Would anyone recommend this?
I love the Android OS. I chose the iOS because of the amount of useful school/work apps it has. [IT field].
Another question is... does anyone here own both [or tried both the iPad 2 AND the G Tab]? I have to say that the iPad 2 keyboard was much smoother than the Galaxy Tab.
I tried it quick.. I didn't have much time to play with it. I thought the keyboard wasn't as fast.
How about school/IT apps?
Thanks in advance!
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Hello!
My friend owns the iPad/iPad 2 and I use them regularly when I'm at his house as he has multiple. I own a Galaxy Tab 7" and 10.1 myself. Here's my personal opinion:
The iPad had a significant build quality difference between it and the 7" Tab. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 corrects this, but it's still very difficult to beat a uniform metal structure versus a plastic one. This will boil down to whether you prefer a higher build quality, or a lighter device. The 10.1 is way lighter, the iPad 2's build quality is better.
As far as applications go... iOS tablet-centric apps blows Android out of the water. There is no denying this. You can still get any application you need on both platforms, but the higher resolution ones on the iPad are way more numerous. Here's to hoping this changes soon for Honeycomb.
As far as operating systems go... Honeycomb is ages beyond iOS in terms of a more desktop-like feel on a Tablet and less of a phone-like feel. iOS 5 does little to correct this. You will find the OS itself much more pleasant on a Honeycomb tablet.
Hardware: The processor in the iPad 2 is fast. The processor in the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is fast. I don't see any speed differences between the two, except for the browser. The lead Google put in Android 2.2 shows heavily with the UI optimized for Tablets. Also, the Tegra 2 processor is the first processor I can say having Flash is a definitive advantage. I can stream HD videos from Flash sources on the web (ABC, Crunchyroll, etc) with very little to no stuttering. Props to NVidia here. I could probably do a video for you, if you were interested.
The back camera on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is far superior, though I don't think you'll be using it very often when cameras on phones are smaller and easier to use. Just my opinion.
Last but not least: I really dislike the iPad (iOS 4) and Google's default keyboard on Tablets. They are extremely hard to use while handling the device. I use Swiftkey Tablet X on my 7" and 10.1" Tab and LOVE it. If you keep your iPad 2 I really suggest you get iOS 5 on it to take advantage of the split keyboard effect. It makes typing far easier. If you do go back and get a Google-based Tab, drop their crappy keyboard and get Swiftkey X. It's in beta - I can send you the apk if you do end up going that route. Just PM me.
[Edit] Quick edit after reading Ravynmagi's post - not having Netflix is a HUGE HUGE bummer. There's no word on it coming to Honeycomb either, so don't hold your breath[/Edit]
I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
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I've had both. the iTampon 2 is riddled with screen problems. I wouldn't pay 500 bucks for it. It does have more apps... but let's be honest..... how many apps do you really need?
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That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
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That was the earlier batches though. I'm of the impression that has been resolved, hasn't it?
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Check the support forums at the Apple site. Sure hasn't.
I don't like Ipads. It feels like you are stuck into the app drawer forever.
Sure, there are tons of apps for tablets but everything else is below 10.1 standards.
It starts with the homescreen, over to multitasking abilities and ends in hardware.
And a 4:3 screen is a no go. Every media is made for 16:9 or 16:10, have fun watching movies on that. Ipad2 feels like an ancient TV.
And web without flash? Seriously? That also means no browser games which all are high resolution and made for PC !
Ipads are just for the fancy glamour aspect. The apps look better, for example ebook readers are nicer animated. But I am a purist, I don't want animations around my text, I want a nice and huge display. Why buy 10.1 if half of your screen is used up by showing virutal pages?
The fact that Honeycomb doesn't have many good apps and Tegra 2 seems pretty poor overall (poor video/codec playing, maybe be an OS issue though) I would get an iPad. It will just be a smoother/better experience.
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
I was debating between these 2 devices and in the end I chose the IPAD2. I really wanted to go with Android, but right now its just not ready for "primetime" just yet. I may revisit this when ICS comes out and the Android Tablets and Apps have become more mature. Much like when Android came out, you are goign to ahve to do a lot fo work to get it to do what you want to do. I think the GTAB has great potential, its the OS that holds it back. App conversion\creation has been very slow so far, which is another drawback.
As others have said though, take account of what you want to do with the tablet and what apps you will use. Then go through both tablets and see what will suit your needs. You cant go wrong with either as both have their negative and positive attributes. Whichever is going to fit your needs the best is the one to get, everyone has different needs and wants, so everyone will have a differing opinion.
I can say though that I have not been disappointed with my decision. I still come here and lurk to see what the current state of the GTAB is though as it still sparks my interest and I want it to succeed.
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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My experience is quality has usually been lower on the Android side. Either the Android version has fewer features or is less stable or not even compatible with your device. Fragmentation is a real ***** on Android right now and quality is suffering because of it.
I really don't see an argument for Android having an advantage on the app side. That's going to be the iPad's strong point for quite some time.
But I do agree, plenty of people can find good quality apps that suit their needs and be completely happy.
honeycomb really suck balls! i have to have 3 different browsers installed to do what a normal browser does
firefox to download stuff (if u disagree, try using some other browser to download from filesonic/hotfiles)
skyfire to view flash sites
and the ever temperamental stock browser
why am i able to do the above with any browser froyo/gingerbread but not honeycomb?
typing in username/password is a nightmare, tap a key --> wait for the character to appear --> type the next key.. honestly if u want to try out android, get yourself an android phone, avoid honeycomb tablets for the time being
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When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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ipad has a lot of useful and quality apps compared to the less than a hundred apps that honeycomb offer.
I'm not talking about games because the tablet optimized games that honeycomb/tegra have are awesome but when it comes to apps for specific tasks they have very limited selection and not a lot of them are comparable to the ipad app counterpart.
I'm talking about finance apps like iReconcile for iPad and portfolio apps for photographers.
I have not seen one portfolio app for honeycomb and ipad have a color calibration app made by datacolor called SpyderGallery but non existent on the honeycomb.
I'm just saying that honeycomb might be good for someone that want to do basic stuff on their tablet but if you want a task specific app, the ipad has them and honeycomb desn't have them but doesn't mean they're not going to have them in the future.
I think that we're going to see a lot of apps ported to honeycomb by the end of the year.
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I've played with the ipad & currently own a GT 10.1. For me (& I think Rayvnmagi summed it all up nicely), the two greatest advantages of Honeycomb are media (ability to play Flash & higher resolution video) and the mod-ability (I just bought an Epic 4G -- $30 on Amazon! -- and I haven't stopped playing with ROMs since; something I could never do with my iphone 3GS).
Yes, the apps are decidedly not there. Yes, the keyboard lag is awful when typing in forums, etc. I'm willing to put up with that for now because I know two things: 1) the fellas here at xda are awesome & will most likely come out with a fix in the near future & 2) Google handed out GT 10.1 developer editions to everyone at its developer conference. That can only be a good thing in terms of app development for the GT 10.1.
All that being said, I actually recommended my dad (NOT a techie) get an ipad 2. He's not as tech-savvy, and he's of the mindset that things should just work. The ipad has established itself as a very stable platform that works (usually) without a hitch & I have a feeling if he'd gotten a GT 10.1, he would have had several headaches & never used it.
So, I feel like in the end, it really depends on your usage preference--do you want an established tech with a little bit lower specs or do you want the newer tech with more bugs but better specs?
My problem with the tab right now has nothing to do with apps etc etc. That stuff will eventually come, just a little time.
My problem is with lag, video playback issues, and the fact that samsung does not like to update their products to push you to buy new ones. Even if google fixes all the issues currently with the tablets, there is no guarantee samsung will give us that update.
Samsung's flagship phone (galaxy s) has yet to get the ota froyo update. If you send your phone back in for a warranty repair, yes you will receive a refurbed one with froyo or you can get it through kies if you are aware of it's existence. Yet the new $70 samsung exhibit is just a replay of the vibrant but with gingerbread!
I don't know about the other manufacturers, but I don't expect the tab to improve much more than it has now. There will most likely be a new tablet from samsung in the fall to winter season sporting icecream sandwich...if that happens, forget updates!
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SR45 said:
When people say that the IPad has more apps, I kind of laugh at this.....
Its the quality of the apps, not the number of them. If Android has the apps that I want and are of good quality, than I am happy.
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I laugh at this comment because androids tablets apps are lacking in BOTH QUALITY and QUANTITY. Seriously dude you set ursrlf up for that.
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The problem with the iPad is that once you buy into the Apple infrastructure if you buy a decent quality of apps you're locked into them forever unless you want to start over again. Personally I love the flexibility of Android and will never go back to having an iPhone (which I used to have).
When Exchange didn't work with my corporate server with my iPhone I was out of luck. With my Droid X I had the same problem but was able to download Touchdown which works fine. To me, that flexibility makes it more worthwhile to stay with Android and lose out on the over abundance of "fart apps" in the Apple app store.
Hi,
just got SGT 3G 10.1 to write a review. Since my everyday device is iPad (1) and a while back I have decided I will wait Tegra 2 devices out I got few simple questions I need help with (because of the different system):
- how do I put Netflix app on this thing?
- how do I hack Hulu (I do not have Hulu Plus)?
- I got Dice player (trial) and it works nicely with my NAS storage but it is a trial :-( I do not want to spend cash on software since I do not have any Android device currently - so.. is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
- is there any nice (free) RSS reader (like Mobile RSS for iPad)
- any other way to watch NBC or ABC (there are apps for iPad) than through browser?
- do you guys use stock browser or is there any better free alternative (heard rumours that proper Chrome is coming - lucky you!!)
Do your SGT's get warm at the back (area below on/off switch)?
Thanks for help, in advance!
Are you planning to review the SGT 10.1 also .....?
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Also?
No, just.
But I am interested in those things for myself as well. A while back I decided to go with iPad 1 instead of SGT. Now, since I got it for a longer period of time I also want to know if I made a right choice.
galtom said:
Hi,
just got SGT 3G 10.1 to write a review. Since my everyday device is iPad (1) and a while back I have decided I will wait Tegra 2 devices out I got few simple questions I need help with (because of the different system):
- how do I put Netflix app on this thing?
- how do I hack Hulu (I do not have Hulu Plus)?
- I got Dice player (trial) and it works nicely with my NAS storage but it is a trial :-( I do not want to spend cash on software since I do not have any Android device currently - so.. is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
- is there any nice (free) RSS reader (like Mobile RSS for iPad)
- any other way to watch NBC or ABC (there are apps for iPad) than through browser?
- do you guys use stock browser or is there any better free alternative (heard rumours that proper Chrome is coming - lucky you!!)
Do your SGT's get warm at the back (area below on/off switch)?
Thanks for help, in advance!
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Every single question you asked above literally has had it own thread started. You don't even have to use the search function, just scroll down a few posts. You'll find every answer to each of you questions and beable to join in on the discussions there. No real need to start a new post just join in on those posts, it'll make it alot easier for you to find the info your looking for.
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Also?
No, just.
But I am interested in those things for myself as well. A while back I decided to go with iPad 1 instead of SGT. Now, since I got it for a longer period of time I also want to know if I made a right choice.
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So what your saying is that your not really planning on doing a review on the Tab 10.1??? The title of your post confuses me a bit then.
And since you have both the iPad and a Tab wouldn't it be easy to see if you made the right choice for yourself. You have both devices right in front of you to compare. "The right choice" is really dependant on how you plan to use and what your looking for from your device. Everyone expects and demands a little something different from the devices they choose. Case in point, my wife wanted a tablet that she could play games on, check her email and shop online with. I wanted a tablet that I could tweek to were I could use it for not only personal things like media, browsing and gaming but also easily setup to use for work as well. She opted for the iPad 2 for its ease of setup and use, I opted for the Tab 10.1 for its ability to customize it to my exact needs.
The right choice is for you and only you to make in the end... Your the one who has to use it everyday.
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No, no. Sorry for misunderstanding. I am definitely doing SGT 10.1 review.
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is there any decent free alternative to Dice Player (btw: Mobo is having problems with playback)
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Try MX Palyer.
What software version does your tab have? I ask because older versions are really laggy. Install KI1 and you will get a really smooth device, you can find it in development forum.
RSS reader, try Pulse.
I'm using the stock browser. Make sure you enable plug ins in settings, otherwise flash won't work.
You can find the Netflix apk in apps forum.
I found a link to Netflix app on transformer forum. Downloaded, installed - does not work :-(.
After logging in I got error message about stream (will let you know the no later on as I do not have the device with me).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=93644018 - this is all I found about hulu - not much (I entered Hulu Hack).
BTW: how to get apps that have regional restricition, with iTunes it is easy, one just needs to setup new account. Same with Android Market?
Software on this tab shows HC 3.1 and it is laggy as hell. When going out from settings to home screen it takes a bit to draw all the widgets and first few swipes between desktops are far from smooth
Al the time I find its screen a bit less responsive than at iPad - has any one else similar feeling/response?
And let me ask again - back of the device I got gets quite warm, enough to get sweaty fingers which makes holding the device not very pleasant.
I think manufacturers should make teir tablets as light as possible but a bit thicker (not like Xoom or Thrive) but a bit chunkier than iPad2 or SGT 10.1.
But my overall experience so far is good - funny thing about screens. As there is difference between iPad and SGT in resolution (and fonts and screen size) I find it easier to surf the net with ipad (I use iPad 99% of the time in horizontal position with "Home" button on the side), like everything on the screen a wee bit bigger and easier to read. On the other hand when it comes to pictures and movies SGT looks better.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Sorry my bad.
Umm Netflix is on the market. Most of these questions are android related and not specific to the tab. I encourage you to try out apps and read the forums like the rest of us if you want a true review. The beauty of android is its ability to be customized. Take some time to make the device truly yours then review it.
I appreciate your comment, that is exactly what I am trying to do. Unfortunately I can not find the information I am looking for. I have tried "search" and entered there both "key words" Netflix and Hulu - so far no luck.
If Netflix app is in the market it is ot available to me as I'm am not in the USA. I have to admit that it is much easier with iOS. Especially for someone fresh.
I have had both and got rid of the ipad2. My main reason, though, was I needed openvpn and couldn't wait for a jailbreak for the ipad2 to come out since mine was new enough to already have 4.2.5 on it, no SHSH blobs.
That said I ditched my iPhone for a captivate, so I should have known already
I wanted to know how playing is on the Sony Tablet S1. Please answer quick
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I wanted to know how playing is on the Sony Tablet S1. Please answer quick
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As far as what? Playstation games? Its fine the controls Crash and Pinball work real well. If you mean regular android games they work great too
Performance is acceptable.
Gaming is decent. Comparable to other android tablets, however I feel as if gaming in general is slower compared to comparative models.
In my experience Ipad2 is better at gaming, tab 10.1 is better and Jetstream is better (which is surprising).
But overall... gaming is acceptable.
Can I connect a gaming controller to the Tablet S?
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Okay. Im buying one when Ive had my Birthday
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I connected my USB Adapter + Logitech Gamepad, works in the PS Games, Market games seem hit or miss.
To me this is a Tablet first, a simple device for browsing the web, reading emails and running simple small programs. Gaming is just a bonus, I find it fine for simple games but if it's a real concern you should be looking at a dedicated platform or a gaming PC.
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I connected my USB Adapter + Logitech Gamepad, works in the PS Games, Market games seem hit or miss.
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That is cool
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Hi,
Posted a video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4-4an7be-Q
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Hi,
Posted a video on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4-4an7be-Q
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ugh so laggy
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ugh so laggy
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Uhm guys... just noticed something weird - Maedhros, please let me know if this is the lag you mention:
Playing my youtube link on the sony tablet gets really laggy / skipping whole video sections if I play it in a Browser tab!
But then it works just fine if I choose to play it directly in the youtube app!
I haven't chosen a default app to play youtube videos yet, so there's a prompt for me choose...!
Can anyone else on 3.2 confirm this, please?
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Uhm guys... just noticed something weird - Maedhros, please let me know if this is the lag you mention:
Playing my youtube link on the sony tablet gets really laggy / skipping whole video sections if I play it in a Browser tab!
But then it works just fine if I choose to play it directly in the youtube app!
I haven't chosen a default app to play youtube videos yet, so there's a prompt for me choose...!
Can anyone else on 3.2 confirm this, please?
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Hmm... yea ur right this is what happens to me. I hadn't realized that the youtube player app was fine.
In the browser it isn't as good as the app.
wickwire said:
Uhm guys... just noticed something weird - Maedhros, please let me know if this is the lag you mention:
Playing my youtube link on the sony tablet gets really laggy / skipping whole video sections if I play it in a Browser tab!
But then it works just fine if I choose to play it directly in the youtube app!
I haven't chosen a default app to play youtube videos yet, so there's a prompt for me choose...!
Can anyone else on 3.2 confirm this, please?
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I can confirm this on both Tablet S and Galaxy Tab 10.1, did a research and found out that it's Tegra 2 processor issue
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Man... there is litterally no reason to keep this tablet
Have had nothing but trouble with it.
Honestly, no reason at all to pick up this tablet over the Jetstream
I was disappointed by the Xperia phones and now by this tablet. Last time I purchase any Sony mobile devices.
Maedhros said:
Man... there is litterally no reason to keep this tablet
Have had nothing but trouble with it.
Honestly, no reason at all to pick up this tablet over the Jetstream
I was disappointed by the Xperia phones and now by this tablet. Last time I purchase any Sony mobile devices.
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This thread seems to indicate otherwise, as it is likely to have its fair share of issues as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281420
Regardless, the issue noted with youtube here derives from not using the proper tool, when available.
Either way, good luck with it, hope it works better than the Sony for you on all counts!
Maedhros said:
Man... there is litterally no reason to keep this tablet
Have had nothing but trouble with it.
Honestly, no reason at all to pick up this tablet over the Jetstream
I was disappointed by the Xperia phones and now by this tablet. Last time I purchase any Sony mobile devices.
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Dude you are literally staring to spam this board and thus starting to get annoying. If you got rid of your tablet S then great, bye bye. To say "Man... there is litterally no reason to keep this tablet " is beyond idiotic. It is general consensus that the Tablet is is easily one of the best Android tablets out right now. It is also arguably more functional, useful and robust that an iPad with its severely outdated OS. To mention the Jetstream is just an insult. Battery life is fine. The video playback issues you had are EASILY fixed by downloading a proper video player with a codec off the market. I was skeptical when purchasing this tablet but have had no "issues" at all with it that are not related to the bugginess of honeycomb. None.
I'm considering picking up a lapdock for my Atrix, but I understand CM (and Neutrino, which I'm using now) may not support it just yet. Anyone have any strong feelings pro or con on the lapdock's usefulness? Could I actually use it for light document work, that sort of thing? I use LibreOffice for my work.
Just wondering if it's more of an interesting idea that wasn't implemented well, versus a nicely useable thing once hacked properly.
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I'm considering picking up a lapdock for my Atrix, but I understand CM (and Neutrino, which I'm using now) may not support it just yet. Anyone have any strong feelings pro or con on the lapdock's usefulness? Could I actually use it for light document work, that sort of thing? I use LibreOffice for my work.
Just wondering if it's more of an interesting idea that wasn't implemented well, versus a nicely useable thing once hacked properly.
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I can't speak the lapdock necessarily but I have the webtop and I love (well loved, I'm on CM9 now) it. I did collaborative document editing using the web and application version of Google Docs. Can LibreOffice docs be opening with Google Docs? Playing music, browsing the web, and sending texts/gchat, etc are all relatively easy. If you can get a good deal I would recommend it. I used this before I rooted and was forced to use WIFI as opposed to my data connection but I'm sure there is a hack for that by now.
I use the lapdock everyday. I haven't found a rom that I like with the lapdock (settings issues, etc) so I am on stock but the .24 1.3 oc Faux kernel (I run it a 1.1 or 1.3) seems to boost lapdock performance. Keyboard is cramped and I wish the screen would tilt back further but these are minor complaints, particularly if you can get a lapdock for $100. My wife's desktop died so I gave her my laptop and I now generally use the lapdock. For documents, I have access to the Citrix Xen Desktop (from my office) so I can use Outlook/Word and Excel and they work fine (of course the Xen means the lapdock is just being used as a dumb terminal). Only other problem is that the lapdock hogs memory (and it doesn't free it after uplugging) so after I use the lapdock I always reboot the phone..
If you can find a good price, I think you can find them for around $100 now, I would say it may be worth it. I have only used it when I travel for watching movies, etc on a plane or killing time in airports. Its a bit awkward to use without a mouse (IMHO) and if I had a tablet I would probably never use it. Its nice to have, but a little less user friendly than a tablet and more difficult than a laptop for productivity.
As for ROMs, I've upgraded to CM9 which is not compatible with the webtop, but I ran the Alien build for about 6 months with no issues. Its easy enough to just flash a ROM for a day or two that is webtop compatible and reflash back to your preferred ROM afterwards - that is my plan next time I travel.
I don't think the lapdock is particularly useful. It's a memory hog, and pretty darn slow. My netbook is a lot faster. I also detest the lack of multitouch on the trackpad.
I got mine for Christmas, but also got a 7" HTC tablet at the same time. The tablet gets lots of use; the lapdock is sitting in the box. I guess I should sell it while it's still worth something.
While the non-Blur custom roms don't have webtop, they DO have landscape HDMI mirroring.
Mirroring the display is MUCH more useful for me. Everything responds perfectly, and the trackpad and keyboard work well too. The device doesn't feel bogged down, as it did under webtop, and I haven't found there was anything I could do under webtop that was more efficient than anything on the phone UI.
Dudeman Broguy said:
While the non-Blur custom roms don't have webtop, they DO have landscape HDMI mirroring.
Mirroring the display is MUCH more useful for me. Everything responds perfectly, and the trackpad and keyboard work well too. The device doesn't feel bogged down, as it did under webtop, and I haven't found there was anything I could do under webtop that was more efficient than anything on the phone UI.
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I just wish the OS scaled better for the higher resolution of the laptop dock, but it's a minor inconvenience. The major inconvenience for me is that it likes to reboot once it stays idle while on the lapdock for longer than 10 minutes, but that might be due to undervolting.
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I just wish the OS scaled better for the higher resolution of the laptop dock, but it's a minor inconvenience. The major inconvenience for me is that it likes to reboot once it stays idle while on the lapdock for longer than 10 minutes, but that might be due to undervolting.
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I found a couple tricks to work around both of these issues for myself.
I use LCD Density Modder Pro and lowered the density to 175, makes things seem kind of small on the phone interface but it looks great on the lapdock and is still usable (for me) without the dock as well.
For the idling, I set up a Tasker profile that sets the display time out to 2 minutes, disables autobrightness, and sets brightness to 1 whenever I'm on a charger. Generally, if I'm actually using the dock I'll touch it within 2 minutes anyway.
I also found that for some reason, my screen won't time out while on the dock at all lately, but if I know I'm not using it I can manually turn the screen off.
Obviously it's all work around and would vary from person to person, but there are options.
Also, Switch User would let you create a second profile for lapdock use (with a different LCD Density, screen time out, ETC) if you don't mind doing a reboot between using the lapdock and using just the phone.
^all of this referring to CM based ROMs without webtop
I think the lapdock is going to see a resurgence in usefulness when the CM9 roms start getting better and include the Tablet interface.
using the phone and then getting a full tablet UI to play with (ICS tablet interface is nice) will be much better than the webtop and yes, I'm a fan of the webtop
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I think the lapdock is going to see a resurgence in usefulness when the CM9 roms start getting better and include the Tablet interface.
using the phone and then getting a full tablet UI to play with (ICS tablet interface is nice) will be much better than the webtop and yes, I'm a fan of the webtop
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+1
I use mine often in the house (wi-fi). O pretty much just is it for web based applications. A wireless mouse makes things a lot better. Anyone tried unbuntu yet?
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+1, cm9 with lapdock in native resolution would bei great
But I can use the lapdock with the cm9?
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I have a quick question, does the lapdock feature speakers or is it purely a screen and keyboard + 2 USB ports?
Ultraman1966 said:
I have a quick question, does the lapdock feature speakers or is it purely a screen and keyboard + 2 USB ports?
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Battery, (which charges your phone while it's docked), screen, keyboard, trackpad, speakers, and 2 USB ports.
Thanks. Shame that it doesn't include a front cam (even a cheap VGA would do) as I would love to use it for Skype video calls.
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Thanks. Shame that it doesn't include a front cam (even a cheap VGA would do) as I would love to use it for Skype video calls.
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Yeah, would have been nice given phone has front cam which is useless when docked.
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CaelanT said:
Yeah, would have been nice given phone has front cam which is useless when docked.
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How responsive is the dock these days? Has there been much in terms of official software updates? I would use it mainly for web browsing and watching videos (on iPlayer for example).
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How responsive is the dock these days? Has there been much in terms of official software updates? I would use it mainly for web browsing and watching videos (on iPlayer for example).
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Lapdock is great imo. No updates from Moto other than Firefox from what I see. You want the best out if it you need to install Gentop2, Debian, etc. Much more useful then.
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Motoblur ICS will include an overhauled Webtop which is just tablet view with a different resolution. Unfortunately, we will be waiting a couple months for that.
First of all, our tablet has the same power horse as Galaxy Tab 10.1 ...but my friends tablet is much faster and snappier than my tablet S!
The Browser on his Galaxy Tab never jumps out like what happens to me. He uses stock browser of the galaxy tab...it looks different and never jumps out!
Also I have a PS3 and I didn't quite understand if I can use my tablet to control my PS3 or I can use my PS3 controller to play games on my tablet?!!!
If my concerns and questions are noob, plz forgive me!
Any suggestions about these?
I'm in the verge of selling my tablet because it is too laggy comparing to Tab 10.1 and Tansformer Prime!
FYI My Tablet is Rooted and I have not installed lots of apps, just couple of apps and no games...so no high expectations but still not happy!
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Also I have a PS3 and I didn't quite understand if I can use my tablet to control my PS3 or I can use my PS3 controller to play games on my tablet?!!!
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The tablet can not control anything on the PS3
You can use a PS3 controller with the tablet, but you need an adapter to allow the USB cable to fit the tablet. Once it is set up it works very well.
sservati said:
First of all, our tablet has the same power horse as Galaxy Tab 10.1 ...but my friends tablet is much faster and snappier than my tablet S!
The Browser on his Galaxy Tab never jumps out like what happens to me. He uses stock browser of the galaxy tab...it looks different and never jumps out!
Also I have a PS3 and I didn't quite understand if I can use my tablet to control my PS3 or I can use my PS3 controller to play games on my tablet?!!!
If my concerns and questions are noob, plz forgive me!
Any suggestions about these?
I'm in the verge of selling my tablet because it is too laggy comparing to Tab 10.1 and Tansformer Prime!
FYI My Tablet is Rooted and I have not installed lots of apps, just couple of apps and no games...so no high expectations but still not happy!
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Why don't you wait and see what the ICS update brings. It should be MUCH faster..
My tablet s wifi version is fast and smooth, I have no problem at all in browsing and it is not rooted.
Yes. This is the slowest Tegra 2 stock tablet that I have ever used, and yet they say it is fast smooth and quick. If I didn't have root to change a fewsettings and remove apps, I would be very dissatisfied. Now if only Sony would unlock their bootloader. Haha.
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Yes. This is the slowest Tegra 2 stock tablet that I have ever used, and yet they say it is fast smooth and quick. If I didn't have root to change a fewsettings and remove apps, I would be very dissatisfied. Now if only Sony would unlock their bootloader. Haha.
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Maybe you have a faulty tablet, because the Sony Tablet S is the fastest Tegra 2 tablet I've ever used, which includes Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Eee Transformer.
Those who complained about their tablet, just wonder if they ever read reviews and tried out the tablet before buying it?
I did some homework, tried it out myself before pulling the trigger abd now I'm a happy user
Here you can play with sample tablet in Sony Shop or retailers, isn't it the case in other countries?
Sometimes the UI can feel a bit sluggish (especailly with a lwp)
but this thing runs Modern Combat 3 like a champ, never even a hint slowness even with lots of on screen action. I dont think this is an inheritently slow tablet. People just judge speed on how quickly the tab can scroll through homescreens and them obsess over it which is kind of silly.
I was one of the early adopters and got mine even one day before launch...so I just trusted my experience with Sony!
I have used Tab 10.1 and Prime and none of gave me a black screen when I used live wallpaper and closed a program and got back to home screen.
Also sudden browser closes and still WiFi that disconnects when I turn tablet off are not some thing you expect from Sony!
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I was one of the early adopters and got mine even one day before launch...so I just trusted my experience with Sony!
I have used Tab 10.1 and Prime and none of gave me a black screen when I used live wallpaper and closed a program and got back to home screen.
Also sudden browser closes and still WiFi that disconnects when I turn tablet off are not some thing you expect from Sony!
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What fw are you running?
I have no problems with the tablet. Not a single one. And I'm rather a hardcore user...
No problems here. Sony table S works quickly and smooth. Nothing ever fails.
Hard to understand those problems.
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First of all, our tablet has the same power horse as Galaxy Tab 10.1 ...but my friends tablet is much faster and snappier than my tablet S!
The Browser on his Galaxy Tab never jumps out like what happens to me. He uses stock browser of the galaxy tab...it looks different and never jumps out!
FYI My Tablet is Rooted and I have not installed lots of apps, just couple of apps and no games...so no high expectations but still not happy!
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You said your tablet is rooted you could try to use an CPU tuner? can not tell you if it works because i dont have problems with it, I even think the speed is faster then my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v also it is a known issue with the browser
I haven't seen this jump out of browser on any other tablets I used, I don't know why you say know isuue!!!
My biggest problem is that it slid of my car bonnet when i was putting on my shoes. Now there is a little light leakage in the middle at the bottom of the screen. Not too bad though. Word is honeycomb itself has a bugged browser and all versions are vulnerable to it crashing/3rd party browsers also. I find that it only happens when you are jumping around link really fast, have a fair few tabs racking up or some flash content is going on.