I am planning to backup the SGSII stock ROM as stock as possible.
I belive there are 2 options to backup the stock ROM.
1. Clockworkmod
2. RomDump
My question is, in Clockworkmod the recovery manager is modified and in RomDump, the application itself is installed and when the ROM backup is done, in both cases will the changes like recovery manager, RomDump app will also be in the back up ?
If so then I belive in addition to rooting, these are also the changes in stock ROM backup and when restored the system will not be as stock. Right ?
Is there anyother method which can take the backup as stock as possible ?
I belive RomDump would be the most nearest to stock ROM. Correct me if I am wrong.
PS: I know we have stock ROMs available for download. But I want to have my phone's version.
I want to grab some software off a stock galaxy ace from the same provider as mine. However, before I root it and install CWM, I want a way to revert it to Android system recovery <3e>. Obviously, I cannot back up the stock phone, it's unrooted and has no CWM recovery backup yet, and once I install CWM, it won't have the stock recovery anymore. Any way to get the stock system recovery?
IrishRed said:
I want to grab some software off a stock galaxy ace from the same provider as mine. However, before I root it and install CWM, I want a way to revert it to Android system recovery <3e>. Obviously, I cannot back up the stock phone, it's unrooted and has no CWM recovery backup yet, and once I install CWM, it won't have the stock recovery anymore. Any way to get the stock system recovery?
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There's no flashable zip or whatever .
All you need to do is to flash any firmware via ODIN
IrishRed said:
I want to grab some software off a stock galaxy ace from the same provider as mine. However, before I root it and install CWM, I want a way to revert it to Android system recovery <3e>. Obviously, I cannot back up the stock phone, it's unrooted and has no CWM recovery backup yet, and once I install CWM, it won't have the stock recovery anymore. Any way to get the stock system recovery?
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If u flash any stock rom ,u will get your stock recovery back =D
Where can I get a stock rom for the device, though? I can't take a backup to make my own without CWM...I assume I could learn to use Odin with a tutorial somewhere, but Odin can't take a backup, can it?
sammobile.com
Nice site. I don't suppose the Europe or Asia firmwares will work in North America, though? (Canada).
Hi everyone. I'm running Galaxy Ace, stock ROM Android 2.3.4
Never flashed a custom ROM before, so be gentle.
Phone already rooted (I have the superuser icon)
From reading threads here at xda, I have download these 3:
1. ClockWorkModAce.zip
2. recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.6-galaxyace-fix.zip
3. GT-I9100_ClockworkMod-Recovery_4.0.0.2.tar
I'm guessing number 3 is not for galaxy ace, right? So that leaves 1 and 2.
QUESTIONS:
1. Are 1 and 2 essentially the same thing? Which do you suggest I use?
2. These two files are on my laptop. Should I simply copy either one of them to my phone's sd card, turn off phone, boot into recovery by pressing home and power button simultaneously, select "Apply update from sd card", then select either ClockWorkModAce.zip or recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.6-galaxyace-fix.zip?
3. After installing either of the two files, and rebooting, would "nandroid" be on my phone then?
4. I believe nandroid backs up EVERYTHING into sd card (recovery image, right?). Can I then copy it to my thumb drive or laptop so I can erase it from the sd card?
5. If I want to get back to my stock ROM, is it done by booting into the custom recovery (like the clockworkmod) and selecting an option there?
6. After going back to stock ROM, how would I go back to stock recovery too?
7. For clarification, when you guys are saying cwm or clockworkmod, do you mean ROM Manager? Because a lot of guys are warning me against it! I just found out clockworkmod is the name of the developer, not the app.
8. From the ROM Manager page at market.android.com ,
Samsung users: You must flash a Clockwork compatible kernel first (see XDA forums)
Is this really necessary?? So much prerequisites! =P
9. Should I install ICS Beta Full on my Galaxy Ace Android 2.3.4???
10. Already rooted, so how much time will it take from installing cwm to installing the custom ROM? I want to know so I won't panic
11. If I install cwm, does the recovery automatically becomes the custom recovery?
12. What does a full wipe mean and do I do it with the stock recovery or with the custom recovery?
Please be as detailed as possible, and use small words.
Appreciate it guys!
Thanks a lot!
first zip is for cwm4 official one
second is cwm5.. i personally prefer cwm4 as had no problems with it
cwm5 failed to take backup when i tried to several times
and i have flashed all roms that claims to do it with cwm5 with cwm4 with no problems at all
you can copy backup images to laptop but DO NOT modify names of any folder as it will result in mismatch of md5 so copy directly folder as it is without modification
ROM MANAGER IS ***** DO NOT INSTALL ON SGA or else you loose your device damn
you can flash it on stock kernel as well
if you want to go back to stock rom from restoring backup then your backup must be taken after converting filesystem to ext4 or else it will fail..
so before backing up flash cf-root and convert fs to ext4 to save time of flashing stock from odin and then restoring backups
thats your option to install cm9 on phone as its not stable and needs many changes at this time.. if you are ok with bugs then you can
1. yes u should delete it. judging by the name its for sgs2, would brick ur phone instantly if flashing that one.
2. i dont really sure about cwm 5.0.2.6 (ur second file) either it can be flash from stock recovery or not but the cwm 4.0.0.6 (ur 1st file) definitely can. and i think its "install zip from sdcard" in stock recovery to flash it.
3. yes.
4. yes, its located in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
5. yes.
6. by flashing stock rom via odin.
7. nope. here if we said cwm or clockworkmod, its referring to the recovery itself (clockworkmod recovery). rom manager is different thing, a tool used to flash cwm or rom. and yes, u should avoid it as countless sga already bricked because of it. and yes, clockworkmod is nickname of the guy who created it and named it as clockworkmod recovery, and here we just called it cwm.
8. again, avoid using rom manager
and u probably wanna read this
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-clockworkmod-recovery-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/
1.First one is official CWM recovery..Its v4..Second one is unofficial CWM recovery..Its v5..I didnt have any problem with them both..But,you should not rename the backups you take with cwm5,it will give you a md5 mismatch error when you do that..
2.Yes..Just copy the file to the sd card
3.Nandroid is a feature of CWM...So,yes.When you flash cwm,you get Nandroid backup
4.Yes...It backsup everything on your phone.But as amit said,Dont rename them
5.By stock,if what you mean is,an untouched Firmware,like the one you got from the factory..Yes..But if you are going to flash any roms,it may convert the system partition to ext4,which will result in a bootloop if you try to restore the stock you have now.So,a better option will be to flash with Odin
6.If you go back to stock,you would still have cwm as your recovery..If you want your stock recovery back,you will have to do a flash with Odin(But,trust me,You will never feel to go back to a complete stock rom and the stock recovery after you start playing around with the other cm7 roms
7.CWM is a recovery..ROM Manager is an application..ClockWorkMod recovery is not a developer..Koushik Dutta is the developer of both CWM recovery and Rom Manager..If you have any thought about using ROM manager,then i suggest that you clean that thought because ROM manager does NOT support Galaxy Ace and if you use ROM manager to flash a rom,you are going to BRICK your device
8.Nothing like that,from what i know.I never flashed any kernel Right after i rooted my ace,i flashed cwm recovery..I didnt do anything else
9.Its your choice..The Myth Ics is an awesome rom
phew....
Prawesome said:
1.First one is official CWM recovery..Its v4..Second one is unofficial CWM recovery..Its v5..I didnt have any problem with them both..But,you should not rename the backups you take with cwm5,it will give you a md5 mismatch error when you do that..
2.Yes..Just copy the file to the sd card
3.Nandroid is a feature of CWM...So,yes.When you flash cwm,you get Nandroid backup
4.Yes...It backsup everything on your phone.But as amit said,Dont rename them
5.By stock,if what you mean is,an untouched Firmware,like the one you got from the factory..Yes..But if you are going to flash any roms,it may convert the system partition to ext4,which will result in a bootloop if you try to restore the stock you have now.So,a better option will be to flash with Odin
6.If you go back to stock,you would still have cwm as your recovery..If you want your stock recovery back,you will have to do a flash with Odin(But,trust me,You will never feel to go back to a complete stock rom and the stock recovery after you start playing around with the other cm7 roms
7.CWM is a recovery..ROM Manager is an application..ClockWorkMod recovery is not a developer..Koushik Dutta is the developer of both CWM recovery and Rom Manager..If you have any thought about using ROM manager,then i suggest that you clean that thought because ROM manager does NOT support Galaxy Ace and if you use ROM manager to flash a rom,you are going to BRICK your device
8.Nothing like that,from what i know.I never flashed any kernel Right after i rooted my ace,i flashed cwm recovery..I didnt do anything else
9.Its your choice..The Myth Ics is an awesome rom
phew....
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if you want to backupp your stock original firmware and want to restore wit cwm
download cf root
and then use ext4 manager
to convert system to ext4
then wen done you can backupp your stock original rom
and restore it with no problems ( ive used this a lot )
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SGSII styled rom
for galaxy ace
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The Serious MOD V1
fir galaxy ace
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The Serious MOD V0
for galaxy gio
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made by Robinandroid
about number 5 and using odin in general
Hi. Thanks a lot guys for your effort in helping out a newbie.
I'm a bit confused about using odin. Is odin like the "safer" way to flash ROMs?
I know I can flash a ROM via booting into recovery, then "install update from sd card", and selecting the ROM. Does Odin do the same thing? When exactly should Odin be used? Only when I want to go back to my original stock firmware AND the original/stock recovery?
Thanks!
As far I know, ODIN is only for flashing stock ROM's.
And well, even if it can be used to flash custom rom's,please do not use it. ODIN can brick your phone. Flashing via recovery is the most safest way
further clarification
Hey guys, thanks a lot. Please clear these up for me:
1. If I am now on stock ROM (never flashed a custom ROM before), then I flash a custom ROM like TheMyth ICS Beta 2 Full, and wish to go back to my stock ROM (which was backed up with clockworkmod recovery), do I simply boot into cwm recovery and restore the stock ROM or do I use Odin?
2. If I am now on stock ROM (never flashed a custom ROM before), then I flash a custom ROM like TheMyth ICS Beta 2 Full, and wish to try another custom ROM like cyanogenMod, should I just flash cyanogenMod with cwm recovery? Meaning, from TheMyth ICS Beta 2 Full straight to CyanogenMod via cwm recovery? Or do I have to go back to stock ROM, as well as stock recovery, by using Odin, and then flash cyangogenMod via stock recovery?
3. If I am now on stock ROM and wish to upgrade to an official android version thru samfirmware.com, do I simply flash it with the stock recovery or do I have to use Odin?
Thanks a lot guys!
1- yes
2- yes, straight away. no need to go to stock rom
3- odin
Im tired of installing many ROM's and 2 different Recovery, some "cant open .zip" and having boot problems, and in other recovery, it can install roms, but other aslo cant open .zip, and also having boot problems,
Im really tired of reflashing stock ICS Fw then root, install Recovery again, after failing installing ROMs.. its too long to reflash, root, install recovery,, its waste my time and having headache after failing installing ROMs for almost a week
Is there any fast solution or what would you do after you fail installing ROMs and cant boot? even do you can enter recovery? what proper should do next? would you also reflash again stock ICS then root and install recovery?
or any other fast way solution..
Please help
Root and install recovery onto your device. Enter recovery and make a nandroid back up of your device. Flash your new rom and reboot the device. If you boot loop or the rom doesn't work or even if you just don't like it, enter recovery (may have to remove the battery to restart a boot cycle) and use your nandroid back up to restore your device.
Before flashing the new rom, you should make sure that the kernel is compatible with the one that is already on your device. If it isn't compatible, you will also want to flash the new kernel using fastboot/flashtool, and not recovery. Also make sure you have a back up of your rom's current kernel so you can flash the original kernel, if you decide to go backwards.
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Root and install recovery onto your device. Enter recovery and make a nandroid back up of your device. Flash your new rom and reboot the device. If you boot loop or the rom doesn't work or even if you just don't like it, enter recovery (may have to remove the battery to restart a boot cycle) and use your nandroid back up to restore your device.
Before flashing the new rom, you should make sure that the kernel is compatible with the one that is already on your device. If it isn't compatible, you will also want to flash the new kernel using fastboot/flashtool, and not recovery. Also make sure you have a back up of your rom's current kernel so you can flash the original kernel, if you decide to go backwards.
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Thanks I think that what im looking for.. the Nandriod backup..
gota way to find that now and how to install
Thanks a lot!
Hmmm...the most easiest way it to unlock your bootloader first...then flash custom kernel...this can help you skip rooting and installing recovery again and again if something goes wrong cause all custom kernel is pre-rooted and got recovery by default....
next you need to find which custom roms you want to flash...some custom roms have their own kernel or flash any custom kernel that is compatible with the roms....
remember, custom kernel is important cause if you flash the wrong kernel, you might get bootloop after flashing the roms....
Pusak Gaoq said:
Hmmm...the most easiest way it to unlock your bootloader first...then flash custom kernel...this can help you skip rooting and installing recovery again and again if something goes wrong cause all custom kernel is pre-rooted and got recovery by default....
THANKS! I have a plan now to unlock my BL
thanks for that info
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So I'm running Cwm version 5.8.1.5 and on stock rom. Now I want to put a custom kitkat rom . so for that, do I need to upgrade my cwm to 6.0.4.5?If so then how do I do it( wanna confirm)?
And just so that the process is streamlined, can anyone tell me the exact procedure before and after flashing the rom via CWM?
AndroidReborn said:
So I'm running Cwm version 5.8.1.5 and on stock rom. Now I want to put a custom kitkat rom . so for that, do I need to upgrade my cwm to 6.0.4.5?If so then how do I do it( wanna confirm)?
And just so that the process is streamlined, can anyone tell me the exact procedure before and after flashing the rom via CWM?
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If you want back-up apps and data with titanium back-up.
Put all the files you need on your phone (CWM kitkat compatible, rom, gapps) reboot into recovery, nandroid back-up, flash the kitkat compatible CWM, reboot into recovery and follow the steps in the op of the rom you want to install.