Hello all!!
I'm new to Android and i'm interested in learning a bit and maybe get involved with it but there are some things that i don't get about android and can't find the answers.
My main question is why Android which is based on Linux is so hard to get updates for all devices at once?
For example we got ICS lately why it's only available for Nexus S and not for all devices that support android?
In pcs if there is a new Ubuntu version every pc can get it no matter the hardware it uses as there are drivers for it.
Is it so hard to have drivers for all the android devices?
Why do we need to wait forever for the X company that makes the phone to build a new kernel?
Is it about the libaries?The drivers?
Say i got a device that is not supported by ICS what would i need to make it supported? I got my libs from 2.3.5 can i toss them to overlay compile and works? If not y not?
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry if my questions are too noobish, everyone has to start from somewhere
Serafym said:
Hello all!!
I'm new to Android and i'm interested in learning a bit and maybe get involved with it but there are some things that i don't get about android and can't find the answers.
1. My main question is why Android which is based on Linux is so hard to get updates for all devices at once?
2. For example we got ICS lately why it's only available for Nexus S and not for all devices that support android?
- In pcs if there is a new Ubuntu version every pc can get it no matter the hardware it uses as there are drivers for it.
3. Is it so hard to have drivers for all the android devices?
4. Why do we need to wait forever for the X company that makes the phone to build a new kernel?
5. Is it about the libaries?The drivers?
6. Say i got a device that is not supported by ICS what would i need to make it supported? I got my libs from 2.3.5 can i toss them to overlay compile and works? If not y not?
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry if my questions are too noobish, everyone has to start from somewhere
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1. Manufacturers don't release updates for all their devices all at once (some not at all).
2. It's ready (most stable so far) for that device (SDK ports; (almost) official update)
- Not true. If you tried to place Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a PC with a 368 MHz and 32mb ram, it would not run .
3. Yes. Android is on devices from many different manufacturers with many different designs and hardware.
4. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel (to know what it is). Different hardware will require different commands, etc. If the manufacturer doesn't release the kernel source, development cannot be done on that device (properly).
5. Yes and yes (much more too).
6. Create a working port from some other device (with similar hardware) which is supported. Sometimes. Some versions of android have backward compatibility of those files but ICS isn't really backward compatible which is why many ports of ICS (for various devices) don't have a working camera, etc. See the 2nd paragraph here: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update.
With the recent release of the WP8 SDK, does this mean that we can expect some new ROM releases for our Titans? I've read about it may not be compatible due to the dual core chip, but I've not found anything saying for sure. Your thoughts?
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nope...the SDK is mainly for app development.
The only way we'll get newer roms is unless a newer build is leaked (unlikely) or released.
Yes but with the emulator there, isn't it possible to port the ROM from it? I think I've read somewhere of that being possible.
Hi I'm a newbie into android custom rom development. I'd like to know more about it and utilize a Notion Ink Adam as my test device. I want to port the latest version of android (maybe ubuntu or win 8 would also do) I just want to see that the Notion Ink Adam 1 works as a usable device and all peripherial devices work as well eg. Camera and the pixel Qi Screen etc. However I do not know where to start. I went through a youtube video which talks about android internals .. So far I have collected the below queries.
1) Why is it that installing android on devices is not the same as installing a regular operating system on a machine.?
2) Is my device really a paper weight if it gets hard bricked. It cannot be recovered Period ?
3) Since the Notion Ink Adam is based on a Tegra 2 process, would it be correct to assume that if a cyagenmod android os works on another device with a similar processor by some other company it will work on the Adam. Thanks.
Porting Android - Did I thinking that this modifying custom ROM from one device such as CyanogenMod for the Nexus 5 and move it to another completely different device? I have an idea for the Nokia N9 developing ended with android 4.1, I would like to create a ROM, for example, 4.4 (higher than 4.1) for Nokia N9 as KitKat has a lot of optimization and was run even on slower devices. Could someone explain how to do or advise what to do, or give a link to the guide. Linux commands aren't unknown to me. I'm new on xda.
Hi everyone,
After a few hiccups, I successfully rooted my Leagoo T5c, thanks to the excellent tutorial posted here. The phone works fine, thank you, but now, I'd like to know how to proceed to, say, upgrade the phone from its current Android version (7.0) to a more recent version.
Where to start?
Since this phone has a Spreadtrum/Unisoc SC9853i SoC (Intel-based), I suppose the custom ROMs and upgrade possibilities are few and far between, but I'd like to give it a shot.
I'm open to ideas, tips, tricks, voodoo moves and Santeria incantations, but I'm still a noob when it comes to Android, so please, be patient, and methodical... :good:
@UglyStuff
If you can unlock phone's boot-loader then you should be able to flash any Custom Recovery and/or Custom ROM that's suitable to 100% to phone's CPU-architecture. Who is the supplier of phone's SoC isn't of any interest at all.
Hi,
Thing is, as I said, I'm a noob when it comes to Android, so I don't want to brick my phone by trying to make it ingest a ROM that's not suitable for it.
If my phone came with a MediaTek or Qualcomm SoC, I wouldn't worry, because there are plenty of ROMs out there, custom or not, to play with, but this Spreadtrum/Unisoc SoC is a thing of its own.
It's based on Intel's Airmont architecture, and few phones or tablets use it, at least this specific version (SC9853i). Maybe I just don't understand too well how a ROM is built.
UglyStuff said:
Hi,
Thing is, as I said, I'm a noob when it comes to Android, so I don't want to brick my phone by trying to make it ingest a ROM that's not suitable for it.
If my phone came with a MediaTek or Qualcomm SoC, I wouldn't worry, because there are plenty of ROMs out there, custom or not, to play with, but this Spreadtrum/Unisoc SoC is a thing of its own.
It's based on Intel's Airmont architecture, and few phones or tablets use it, at least this specific version (SC9853i). Maybe I just don't understand too well how a ROM is built.
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For example, I found this article where they explain how to flash LineageOS 17 (based on Android 10) on a Panasonic Eluga Ray 800 that uses the same SoC as my Leagoo T5c.
The thing is, I don't know if this is transposable to my device, though the two share the same SoC. As I said earlier, I don't want to permanently brick my phone...
@UglyStuff
The mentioned Intel Airmount SoC's instruction set architecture is x86_64 , the also mentioned Intel Spreadtrum SC9853i SoC's instruction set architecture is x86_64, too. Hence in order to upgrade yor phone's Android you need a Custom ROM compiled for x86_64 architecture. GIYF ...
OK, but since this Panasonic and my Leagoo share the same SoC, they also share the same x64 instruction set, so do I get it right if I say that the custom ROM built for the Panasonic would fit on my Leagoo, or am I missing something?
In theory it should.
OK, I guess I'll have to chance it, and use recovery in case things so south. My phone isn't compatible with Treble, according to this app. Does it mean anything in terms of installing one of the generic system images found here or not?