[Q] Apps can't reach sdcard-ext? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Apps can't reach mnt/sdcard-ext ?
Some apps write files in mnt/sdcard, considered as internal storage
real sd card is under mnt/sdcard-ext (I'm using CherryPi)
All my apps only create folders on mnt/sdcard and none of them let me choose, except ... build-in D3 camera.
Is there a way for app dev's to change this folder location?
This could be usefull for apps like dropbox, sugarsync or others

cailloup said:
Apps can't reach mnt/sdcard-ext ?
Some apps write files in mnt/sdcard, considered as internal storage
real sd card is under mnt/sdcard-ext (I'm using CherryPi)
All my apps only create folders on mnt/sdcard and none of them let me choose, except ... build-in D3 camera.
Is there a way for app dev's to change this folder location?
This could be usefull for apps like dropbox, sugarsync or others
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That is a good question. The only way that i can think of that might work is a change in the lib files. Other than that I think it would depend on the app devs themselves to include the exterior sd card.

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What is the purpose of the external SD card?

Let me start off by saying that I have yet to root my Flyer, but plan on it in the near future. My question is the purpose of having an external SD card (I recently got a 16GB)? It doesn't seem like you are able to store apps there, unless you're rooted of course using something like Link2SD.
So for the unrooted, stock Flyer users, is the external SD only for storage of files like mp3s, AVis, etc. that apps on the internal storage can read and run or am I missing something in the setup?
Nope, that's it...just more space for media etc.
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Nope, that's it...just more space for media etc.
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Thanks globatron. All the more reason for me to hurry and root this thing. Any known issues with running Link2SD on HC?
In Gingerbread, you can move some of your apps to SD without root through settings>applications. You choose your app and then there is an option to move to SD card. In my experience, Honeycomb deals with app space differently, so there is no need for this option because I believe all internal storage is available to apps and media. At least this is how it is on my Honeycomb Archos 80.
You can also store app data on the SDHC card with root and judicious use of the mount command with the bind option. For example:
mount -o bind /Removable/MicroSD/com.iconology.comics.app /mnt/sdcard/Android/data/com.iconology.comics.app
I grabbed this line from my transformer as I'm just starting to set up my View but it shows the necessary goodness. Here's my attempt (as in I may have a typo) at the correct code for the Flyer or View to move the storage for the Comixology app:
mount -o bind /sdcard2/com.iconology.comics.app /mnt/sdcard/Android/data/com.iconology.comics.app
The first path can use any name for the folder with the files but I like to keep it the same as the one I'm moving from the internal storage. The second folder is the actual folder where the app data was stored until I moved it to the SDHC card. The big drawback is you'll need to do this for each folder you want to move to the SDHC. But I've found is 2 or 3 apps that use huge chunks of storage.
Then add this to the init.rc or any other startup run script file. I prefer to use Script Manager to run it as root at boot since that gives me a bit more control over the execution and I get to do it without modifying system boot files.
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Well, I wish there were 256GB or so cards available.
I have a lot of media. I can fill it just fine and use my View as a media server or something like that.
As of moving apps to SD: you guys are able to fill all your 24GB or so internal storage with your apps so you need to move them to the external?
I wonder what is that you are running.
Maine_Coon said:
Well, I wish there were 256GB or so cards available.
I have a lot of media. I can fill it just fine and use my View as a media server or something like that.
As of moving apps to SD: you guys are able to fill all your 24GB or so internal storage with your apps so you need to move them to the external?
I wonder what is that you are running.
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Too many apps still aren't willing to write anywhere but /mnt/sdcard and don't deal with additional storage options. So if you can move a gig of apps to the SDHC card that's another gig of storage for those dumb programs. Doesn't directly relate to having 24GB of apps.
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Can't move apps to SD Card

I've 16gb class 10 sd installed in SIII. Can browse it using My files (stock filemanagr) but can't see the external sd in OIbrowser or when trying to move apps from internal to external. In app manager it doesn show the option to move. Also tried app2sd but the option of moving doesn't show.
Any help would be appreciated.
Samsung changed the mount location for the external SD card, will be a problem for lots of apps until they update to support the new location (I confirmed this in my hands-on with the S3 last weekend - details @ AndroidNZ.net). Can you not do it with the native a2sd function from Settings --> Apps --> Manage apps though?
NZtechfreak said:
Samsung changed the mount location for the external SD card, will be a problem for lots of apps until they update to support the new location (I confirmed this in my hands-on with the S3 last weekend - details @ AndroidNZ.net). Can you not do it with the native a2sd function from Settings --> Apps --> Manage apps though?
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NOpes appmanager doesnt show move option in SIII.
This is not good can this be changed by a dev?
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Why would you want to do it? GS3 has a single partition for all data, you'll never run out of the 16GB (11 usable) space you have to store apps. And it's faster memory than your sdcard.
ECrispy said:
Why would you want to do it? GS3 has a single partition for all data, you'll never run out of the 16GB (11 usable) space you have to store apps. And it's faster memory than your sdcard.
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Yes, i understood this after reading more posts. This way is much better. 11gb itself + 50GB dropbox + wahtever you can throw in extSD
That's correct. You can read all about this in the excellent article by Chainfire on his blog entry: "Is Google blocking apps writing to SD cards?". In summary; it is not yet clear whether or not this is a (Google) feature or bug. But although Samsung is trying to work around the issue, they do so in a very sloppy way...
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Thanks for the link to the article. clarifies a lot. Got my SGS3 yesterday & I freaked out when I couldn't find the "Move to SDcard" link in the app manager...
I don't really like that method...
who needs to move apps to sd card if u got a freaking 11 gb of storage in the 16 gb version or any other .....!!
jithendra194 said:
who needs to move apps to sd card if u got a freaking 11 gb of storage in the 16 gb version or any other .....!!
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if that is the case, then what is the point of the freakin SD card???? for show??
or for MP3 and movies only?
vasp3690 said:
if that is the case, then what is the point of the freakin SD card???? for show??
or for MP3 and movies only?
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Agreed this is not what I was expecting, the question is can it be changed?
Or have I just wasted my money on a 64gb sdxc card?
the phone has 11 gb to store music and files, or it has 11 to install app's (internal memory, like the s1 had 1.9 gb to store apps and 5.6 to store files)?
according to the above, i would say that internal memory is used for apps and the external(SD) for music/video or non app.
im wondering if you can store maps for navigation there as they do take quite a bit of space.
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Is this some sort of code ?
I've been using my SGS3 for 3 days now. 16GB internal +32GB external SD
So far:
- device memory total space 11.35GB & available 1.65GB (downloaded my Google Play Music collection, went straight to internal memory, no choice)
- SD card total space 29.71GB & available 29.71GB
What I hope is happening:
the data is being distributed somehow between both cards and it just doesn't show, OR as someone stated above, the internal storage has 11GB dedicated to apps & music and what-not, and once that is used up, any additions will be moved to the external SD
What I think will happen:
"You have run out of memory, please remove some files or apps to proceed", in a typical Microsoft moment...
I was prompted only once to install stuff on the external SD; those were additional files (250MB) that needed to be downloaded for a game I had just installed. Of course I chose external SD but it doesn't look like it worked...
Some positive indications
Camera app allows me to chose the default save location. I chose external SD and now I see it has created the DCIM folder there with some pics.
My internal card is almost full. I've been making a few little downloads. Using the default file explorer I checked the external card folder, and found another new folder called Downloads with my recent stuff in there.
As explained by Chainfire (the way I understood it), the combined space from both cards works together as one.
Dropbox as well it would seem. Not that I tried that.
This isn't an issue for me. I already have a 64gb card with all my music stored on it. I will most likely never download anymore. The rest of the memory card will be for roms kernels themes and backups and an occasional movie.
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vasp3690 said:
or for MP3 and movies only?
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Spot on
Storage is shared for everything from Honeycomb onwards. Many ICS phones don't have sd cards.
EDIT: Oh I see the problem, many apps aren't being given permission to write to the primary external flash storage (16/32/64Gb etc...) and are then failing. That sounds like a bug to me. They've got to be able to write their app data somewhere.
Alright, this is not working properly.
I filled up my internal SD with my Google Play music. Downloaded an app which requires additional data, and it wouldn't download it until I freed up space, even though my external SD is practically untouched.
Freed up just the right amount of space by removing some of my music and I was able to download the extra data for the app.
Went back to Google Play Music to see if a Google product would know how to manage between both cards. I re-check all the music I deleted to download it again, and it tells me my memory is full...
Not happy
If you cannot even save apps on the internal SD card, then that is def. a problem and a bug. But i would doubt that is happening, otherwise all the already pre-installed software would have taken all the space.

[Q] Xperia Sola ext_SD

Is it possible to make photo app to save photos to external SD card not internal?
Does it need root for that?
EDIT:
No need, found solution...
stalvekio said:
No need, found solution...
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Can you share it with others?
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As far as I know the built in camera app has choice for internal or external SD card.
As for other camera apps, I don't know.
Android native is to save on SD not on phone.
Most of phone will not take pictute without mounted sd card in it.
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The point here is that the Sola has TWO SD-cards.
One "internal" 4 GB located as /sdcard, and this is what apps find if they use the Android system call for external storage.
One "real" SD card located as /ext_card. Many apps can not use that card. They have to support arbitrary paths to be able to use it.
I want to play fifa 12 and other games like asphalt, how can I tranfer data form "sdcard" folder to "ext_card" folder?
As I wrote: "Many apps can not use that card. They have to support arbitrary paths to be able to use it."
So it depends in the app if they can use it or not.

Data to Ext_SD

Hi all
My internal SD is about to filled up while my Ext_SD still has more than 30Gb available out of 64Gb. I have some very big file in the internal SD such as Co-Pilot navigation's map and several games' files like Asphalt 6 & 7 ect ... Those are really big though
I wonder if there is a way to move all of those big files to the Ext-SD? I've heard of something like partitioning the Ext-SD card but don't know how to do it properly so I would really appreciates any instruction / guidance from you experts in the forum
Thanks a lot
Partitioning the external sd is a good idea but not necessary for our phones. I would move pictures and music over the external sd and see if that gives you anymore room.
You can try clearing out some space using the Amaze Memory Clear app from the market or doing it manually from Settings>Storage scroll down till you find Make More Space from the internal storage. You can clear out HTC app caches and temp data and other things it ask you. You'll be surprised how much crap gets saved.
I appreciates your replied and suggestion. Yes I did all that and all of my multi-media files were always on the external SD - even my Titanium backup folder were set on the external but, still, those games from GameLoft and off-line maps that really took all the spaces.
Thank you BTW
antiquezip said:
Hi all
My internal SD is about to filled up while my Ext_SD still has more than 30Gb available out of 64Gb. I have some very big file in the internal SD such as Co-Pilot navigation's map and several games' files like Asphalt 6 & 7 ect ... Those are really big though
I wonder if there is a way to move all of those big files to the Ext-SD? I've heard of something like partitioning the Ext-SD card but don't know how to do it properly so I would really appreciates any instruction / guidance from you experts in the forum
Thanks a lot
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Have you tried using app2sd I use it to free up space on my internel. Take some of the other apps or those itself and transfer them to the ext
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The_Fallen_angel said:
Have you tried using app2sd I use it to free up space on my internel. Take some of the other apps or those itself and transfer them to the ext
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Thanks for your input. App2SD only moved app but not it's data. Apps are not a problem in our phone since we have 2,64Gb (internal) partitioned out from the internal SD Card (16Gb) just for apps. More than enough.
It's the data from apps that took spaces and sadly we can not move 'em to the ext-SD. I've also tried the Directory Bind but it's for the SGS2 and it won't works on our phone
Perhaps some of our clever Devs might be interesting of porting the app to our phone someday and that would be great .
Link2SD would be a better option, but it requires kernel support to work.

[Q] CamScanner says SD Card is full, when its not

I have a Galaxy Note SGH-i717M on stock rooted ICS 4.0.4. I use CamScanner (version 2.1.1.20130425) a lot. I've used it so much that now it keeps popping up an error that says "SD Card is full" whenever I open it. Recently I scanned a large amount of documents in batch mode. Most of the pages got processed, but a few are left stuck with an hourglass icon overlayed on the pages. I have emailed IntSig (the company who makes CamScanner) and have not received any response, despite being a premium user. This is why I'm here asking for help.
I checked my storage and I have:
Internal Storage: 540MB/1.97GB Available
USB Storage: 0.00B/10.84GB Available
SD card: 19.42GB/29.71GB Available
So it looks like CamScanner is calling my "USB storage" an sd card. I identified the location of CamScanner files in /mnt/sdcard/CamScanner/ (this is not the sd card, despite the name). And I know that the sd card is actually on /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/
I looked through all of CamScanner's settings and there is no where you can specify where it should save files, unfortunately. I would much rather have had CamScanner store its files on my 32gb micro sd card on /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/CamScanner than occupy the very little space I have on the usable internal storage (USB Storage) on the phone
I've had to delete apps on my internal storage to try and get CamScanner to complete its batch processing (so that I can eventually make PDFs of the processed images). Now I have run out of apps to delete on my internal storage. Is there anything that can be done about this? I would like to use CamScanner without deleting more apps every time I scan things. Is there a way to force CamScanner to use my microsd?
Thanks
I use camscanner too. The problem is that the app does much more than save the scan somewhere. It needs room for manipulating the scan. But seriously....your usb memory is completely full? That can't be 100% apps. There has got to be something stored there that you could move to the external sd card. Not to mention without any free usb memory, I am not sure that the phone with all its features and misc apps will not function properly.
Agoattamer said:
I use camscanner too. The problem is that the app does much more than save the scan somewhere. It needs room for manipulating the scan. But seriously....your usb memory is completely full? That can't be 100% apps. There has got to be something stored there that you could move to the external sd card. Not to mention without any free usb memory, I am not sure that the phone with all its features and misc apps will not function properly.
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I've moved all the apps that live on internal storage to the sd card using app2sd with the exception of 3-4 apps that I need widgets for on the homescreen. Other apps that cannot be moved to the sd card, that I don't need, I have uninstalled already. The rest of the internal space is being occupied by CamScanner and its files to the tune of 5GB+. So it's mostly CamScanner that is now occupying all my internal storage space now (10.84 GB usable internal storage).
I do not want it occupying the majority of my internal storage space anymore. I don't see an end to me using CamScanner ever because it is so useful to me, so the storage occupied by CamScanner will only grow over time. Short of the developers responding to my emails about changing the location and it all working out, I have to figure out something else in the mean time. And yes, I also fear about the other apps not working properly with 0.00 B internal storage left
This is why I'm asking if its possible to move where CamScanner puts its files from, say, /mnt/sdcard/CamScanner to /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/CamScanner using whatever mechanisms possible. Is this possible? Do you know how to do it?
Why not just make a folder on the real sd card called camscanner and move the files there yourself? Once the files are scanned and converted to pdf then there is no sense that they remain in the original folder. Use a file manager on the phone or use your pc to simply move them.
Agoattamer said:
Why not just make a folder on the real sd card called camscanner and move the files there yourself? Once the files are scanned and converted to pdf then there is no sense that they remain in the original folder. Use a file manager on the phone or use your pc to simply move them.
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Good idea, I didnt think of that. This will do for now!
Thanks a lot!
Where does cam scanner stores backups?
If*you*use*the*application*"cam scanner"*to*back*up*your*app*data*on*your*Android*smartphone,*then*the
following*question*may*arise:
This*question*is*important*because*helium*backup*only*offers*the*following*options*to*save*a*backup:
•*Internal*device*memory
•*Cloud
Since*it*is*a*backup*app*which*is*used*mostly*before*a*factory*reset,*it*makes*little*sense*to*backup*to*the
internal*memory.*So*you*have*to*copy*the*backup*folder*from*internal*memory*manually*via*USB*cable*to*the
computer.*For*this*purpose,*it*is*important*to*know*where*the*backup*files*from*helium*backup*are*stored.
You*can*find*the*files*here,*after*the*Android*smartphone*is*connected*to*the*PC:
This PC\(Phone Name)\Internal storage\Intsig\CamScanner\databases_backup\(yyyy-mm-dd)-(hh-mm-ss in 24 hr)
EG:
This PC\(Nexus 5)\Internal storage\Intsig\CamScanner\databases_backup\(2015-09-16)-(13-17-46)
The*folder*is*not*visible*to*the*File*Explorer of*your*Android*smartphone.*Therefore,*you
should*copy*this*folder*directly*to*the*PC.*You*know*now*there*you*can*find*on*your*Android*smartphone
backups*that*you*have*created*with*"Cam Scanner".
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