hi everyone, i was about to buy XPeria Neo, but while surfing the net, i got to know that with 2.3.4 update, one can get USB-OTG feature via live dock..
Now the question is that CAN we USE the OTG feature with the normal host cable and without any external power supply ??
the users who are on 2.3.4 pls test and reply..
the otg(host) cable costs only $3~$5.
if someone had 2 micro usb cables, could try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COkLEJGo6vo
i only have 1 so i'm going to try that
thats a clumsy option man,
one can get an OTG cable than destroying one cable and a female-port
Would be good to know if this is possible, if not looks like buying a live dock might be the way to go.
Live dock can take an external power and supply power to connected devices..
Yep, I know but would be nice to see if this can be done without the live dock somehow.
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Well, I ordered my livedock off eBay on Sunday and it arrived this morning, I'm happy to report they do just what they said it would.. I can now charge my neo at the same time as using usb devices! HDMI out to the tv, usb Wifi mouse/keyboard combo and usb thumb drive all at the same time. (with usb hub attached)
The neo sits in the dock very nicely, and is at a nice viewing angle.
As an extra unexpected bonus it also enables landscape mode on the home screen when it's plugged in.. I hadn't worked out how to do that on stock home launcher yet. So navigating with mouse is really easy, doing that with OTG cable was a pain because it wouldn't switch to landscape.. (probably a build.prop edit that enables landscape mode but havn't played with that yet)
Well worth the 29 euro for the livedock
Kiwi
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Cool Congrats
I think it's pretty expensive. It's €35 here. If I use wifikeyboard using my laptop and connect the phone with hdmi to my tv, I have basically the same.
Yea, I even considered getting a BT keyboard but with Android total lack of BT support I thought this was a cheaper option.
at least I can connect thumb drives too and still charge.. than again, Wifi could solve that issue too.. meh... I like the dock and very happy with the way it just works. (now just have to find myself a cheap USB gamepad to try)
Chris
kiwiBratwurst said:
The neo sits in the dock very nicely, and is at a nice viewing angle.
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Post some photos. Please
o.k.. a couple of pictures.
some with my case on some without. moved the dock into the kitchen for better light so its not plugged into power or USB OTG.. but you get the idea.
Kiwi
nice
how much di you got it for...and can you post the product link of ebay?
Sure, here is the eBay link.. 29euro with free postage
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.de/viewitem?itemId=120825456438&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=62505871724
Kiwi
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Forgot to mention it comes with a 550ma power supply too with a micro usb connection.. Can Never have too many chargers ;-)
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I want one......lol
awesome, been itching to order mine, you mentioned thumbdrive in the first post ?
does that work on stock firmware?
regards
vaalpens
So, IIRC, the livedock supported HDMI through USB, so that phones without HDMI-out, such as Ray, could be used. Is this true? Can you connect your tv with HDMI from the livedock itself, or do you have to use the HDMI-out on the phone?
Thanks!
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No hdmi support on livedock.. You have to plug a hdmi cable into the hdmi port on the phone..
USB thumb drives work with stock firmware but you have to install arc usb storage manager from market to enable thumb drive support on the neo.
And @ HilfordJames.. You'll get yours end of Feb when I get back to nz
Kiwi
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kiwiBratwurst said:
o.k.. a couple of pictures.
some with my case on some without. moved the dock into the kitchen for better light so its not plugged into power or USB OTG.. but you get the idea.
Kiwi
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Thanks for posting the pics. I really love this gadget. I am looking forward to get one.
Are you using actively powered USB hub in connection with livedock? Are you tryied to open it and look inside? I am just curious if the USB on livedock is powered only from the phone so it is really the same as USB OTG cable connected directly to phone, or there is some circuit to power it from charger if available.
I am considering to buy this gadget also, but i hope somebody add support of Bluetooth HID to the stock rom sooner, so i will not need live dock as i already have bluetooth keyboard and mouse.. Tryied to install CM7.1 because of that, but then I quickly return to the stock rom, on CM even HDMI didn't work.
Also let us know which games you will find easy to control via connected gamepad.
Havn't got my gamepad yet so can't comment on that.. Using unpowered usb hub works fine but havn't tried a powered one yet.. I'm sure it will work though.
As far as supplying power from dock for OTG, I can confirm this works, I can use the OTG usb port on the dock to charge other devices while the phone is unplugged from the dock, so power is being supplied straight to the OTG port from the live docks power supply
I've pulled the dock apart and will try to get a photo of the intricate circuit board in there, it's more than just a few cables.. And looks like an empty area for another plug or lead to solder onto.. Will try to work out what this is for too
Kiwi
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here is a picture of the board inside the livedock..
looking at the board the micro USB only supplies power so if you power the dock off a computer (Through the docks micro usb port) it won't connect the phone to the computer for file sharing etc only charging.. not really that important but still good to know.
I attacked it with an old multimeter but its pretty primative.. I'll have to wait till I get back to NZ next month and my own test tools to figure out what the empty J12 connector is for.. (might just be a leftover test port) but if its possible to add extra usb ports it would save using a hub.. we'll see anyway.. enjoy the pic..
Kiwi
Dayme~! we're waiting like forever to see it coming to Malaysia
If this has landscape homescreen, we should be able to enable it in someway without the dock? Any developer who could figure out how to do that?
And if you make a call, is the "in call" screen also in landscape mode?
kiwiBratwurst said:
here is a picture of the board inside the livedock..
looking at the board the micro USB only supplies power so if you power the dock off a computer (Through the docks micro usb port) it won't connect the phone to the computer for file sharing etc only charging.. not really that important but still good to know.
I attacked it with an old multimeter but its pretty primative.. I'll have to wait till I get back to NZ next month and my own test tools to figure out what the empty J12 connector is for.. (might just be a leftover test port) but if its possible to add extra usb ports it would save using a hub.. we'll see anyway.. enjoy the pic..
Kiwi
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12-pin JTAG connector for that MCU ???
Hello,
My Atrix 4G has has no touchscreen. I don't feel like buying a new digitizer and replacing it. I would like to use my Atrix as a media center only connected to my TV. Is it possible for me to set it up to run without a digitizer/touchscreen and only use with my TV and a wireless mouse/keyboard?
Thanks
Jon
jonmueller said:
Hello,
My Atrix 4G has has no touchscreen. I don't feel like buying a new digitizer and replacing it. I would like to use my Atrix as a media center only connected to my TV. Is it possible for me to set it up to run without a digitizer/touchscreen and only use with my TV and a wireless mouse/keyboard?
Thanks
Jon
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Yes, it's possible. Just plug the cellphone and the keyboard / mouse to the dock (in case they work via USB dongle / not bluetooth) and it's set to work the way you want.
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Yes, it's possible. Just plug the cellphone and the keyboard / mouse to the dock (in case they work via USB dongle / not bluetooth) and it's set to work the way you want.
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That's great to know. Is it possible to plug a usb mouse/keyboard directly into the body of the Atrix with a micro usb adapter and get around Android without a touchscreen?
Thanks for your help,
Jon
jonmueller said:
That's great to know. Is it possible to plug a usb mouse/keyboard directly into the body of the Atrix with a micro usb adapter and get around Android without a touchscreen?
Thanks for your help,
Jon
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Unfortunately, that's not possible. The usual microUSB / female USB cables, as used with a lot of other smartphones, doesn't work with the atrix, our phone needs an external power outlet to be able to work with USB devices. You can either use the multimedia Dock or a 'custom' cable, I saw some time ago in youtube a tutorial teaching how to make a custom one, or maybe you can find it in ebay (not sure, never looked for it, to be sincere).
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Unfortunately, that's not possible. The usual microUSB / female USB cables, as used with a lot of other smartphones, doesn't work with the atrix, our phone needs an external power outlet to be able to work with USB devices. You can either use the multimedia Dock or a 'custom' cable, I saw some time ago in youtube a tutorial teaching how to make a custom one, or maybe you can find it in ebay (not sure, never looked for it, to be sincere).
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the cable you are talking about is called udb otg ( on the go), switch the phone's usb port into host mode.. only drawback is that atrix can't supply power to the usb, you must use an external power source for the devicr attached
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I managed to use my atrix with the lapdock for around a month while I sourced a new digitizer and it worked great. I would recommend that you find a work and play kit second hand as I often use the webtop for watching on-demand tv and someone is working on a full resolution xbmc port that would work great with the remote. You might also be able to use the usb host ports to mount a fat32 hd as a media drive. The atrix can work really well without its digitizer.
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I too am interested in this as I have an Atrix 4G with a broken screen. I was thinking about buying a device like the Roku or the MK802. I guess I could just get the Motorola Entertainment Center from Amazon.
Is there a ROM that would be best for the purpose of using the Atrix as a TV only device.
I posted a tutorial in general for using hdmi and tablet mode with the backlight for the digitizer off. This might give you ideas for using the hdmi port with or without your favorite hdmi enabled Moto dock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876790
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Hi,
I understand that the Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet is one of the first to have MHL 3.0 (Along with the Z2 Phone) however is there any adapter out at the moment to put this onto to your TV yet?
Is this something that a universal adapter will sort? Is it something I need to wait for Sony to release?
Cheers.
James
Lynchie1987 said:
Hi,
I understand that the Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet is one of the first to have MHL 3.0 (Along with the Z2 Phone) however is there any adapter out at the moment to put this onto to your TV yet?
Is this something that a universal adapter will sort? Is it something I need to wait for Sony to release?
Cheers.
James
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For me, the Samsung MHL does Not Work physically. A third party Adapter From HAMA does Not Work on the Sony, but on the SGS4
I'm Waiting for the Sony MHL to become available now...
I bought this one and it works with my z2 tablet: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...o-mhl-adapter-rf-g1171-rf-g1171/10214468.aspx
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So, seeing I get my Z2 tomorrow, also ask if anybody has tried the MHL to HDMI adapters. Seems a limited choice here where I live, so asking for some additional input.
Seems I can get the official Sony IM750 MHL Adapter, however it doesn't mention the Tablet compatibility, only phones.
I bought a cheap mhl v1 cable that works fine. It just crops the bottom of the screen off on the TV http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281294982152
It has to have a micro usb to power it, but most tvs or dvd players have a spare usb port to power the adapter.
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I bought a cheap mhl v1 cable that works fine. It just crops the bottom of the screen off on the TV http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281294982152
It has to have a micro usb to power it, but most tvs or dvd players have a spare usb port to power the adapter.
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Thanks for the link. I suppose it would come down to whether the TV USB would transmit power via USB, but in the worst case, one could carry a USB charger (seeings I have several of those laying around )
All usb ports supply 5v at 0.3amps min as long as the TV etc is on. Even if it's a diagnostic only usb port it's still enough current.
Hallo every one
I was at the market want to have cable to connect my z2 to my TV with HMDI
So there was to way to do this
1 from HMDI to micro USB
2 frome HMDI to normal USB and then cable to micro USB
And I like the choice nbr 2 because I can connect my laptop too
But Iam not sure if my phone will work
Did any one know about this before I buy it because it's costs 40€ and I must be sure.
many thanks.
Xperia Z2 has MHL so if you buy micro USB > HDMI it will work. (I don't know if it works on custom roms but on stock it should work properly).
USB in laptops/PCs cannot sync video due that video output is from graphics card and USB has nothing to do with graphics card.
Something else is if you have USB type C and if manufacturer guarantee that it can sync video.
Next case, that is price. 40€ for that? You will overpay! You can buy that for about 3€ on Aliexpress
Ah, but his Z2 is HMDI so it will never work
rubiicon59 said:
Ah, but his Z2 is HMDI so it will never work
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Haha xD
Bumping: When buying an MHL adapter, make sure it's not made specifically for samsung devices, because there's no cross-compatibility. Talk about "standards".
PD: I tried buying one from gearbest. The package never arrived. Such is life in Bolivia.
Bumping again: someone knows how to connect MHL and OTG simultaneously on Z2?
Thanks in advance
No. It's not possible. At least not with the Z2.
The USB port, and the chipset only supports either USB mode, or MHL (hdmi) mode. Not both at the same time.
It can however charge the device while in MHL mode.
Even though there are multi port adapters out, the same thing goes. Either or. Not both.
Some other manufacturers devices DO support both modes simultaneously, but only through the special port and a special adapter for that particular device. I.e. Samsung 11 pin port for some galaxy variants.
If you're interested in keyboard and mice, there are Bluetooth capable keyboards and mice out there. That'll work.
For storage I'd suggest using a larger SD card in the SD card slot.
I have a T-Mobile Samsung S8 active updated to pie one ui and I am looking for a cable to connect and mirror my phone screen to my HDTV while charging the phone. I purchased one on eBay advertised to work but bit does not. Before I drop more money on a cable I hope I can get a recommendation for one proven to work.
Thanks in advance
Here is what I use:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07TT9P9KQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
This is a USB c hub with power delivery and an HDMI port. I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but I thought I'd let you know what I use. What cable did you try?