Hi everyone.
Have researched this to no end and have understood a few things but I have 2 more questions.
I am running 2.3.4 firmware on KG4 (North American factory unlocked)
now, can I install [KERNEL][2.3.5] SiyahKernel v1.7.7 (or .8b2) to have root and then the original to remove the yellow triangle?
after can I install a rom compatible with the KG4?
also, is it advisable to upgrade from KG4?
(actually, what is important is the kernel variation based on the baseband? i this case KG4 and not necesarily the kernel version)
--- if the baseband were to be changed to say KG5, KG6 ... KG9, KI1, then the kernel would have to be say KI1 right?---
zeta_immersin said:
Hi everyone.
I am running 2.3.4 firmware on KG4 (North American factory unlocked)
now, can I install [KERNEL][2.3.5] SiyahKernel v1.7.7 (or .8b2) to have root and then the original to remove the yellow triangle?
You then have KG4 2.3.4 firmware with 2.3.5 kernel
after can I install a rom compatible with the KG4?
also, is it advisable to upgrade from KG4?
Its your choice but i would upgrade to the same as Kernel .
(actually, what is important is the kernel variation based on the baseband?
NO
Firmware = full package KI3
Modem = Modem in that package could be KI1
Kernel = same release kernel as firmware KI3
--- if the baseband were to be changed to say KG5, KG6 ... KG9, KI1, then the kernel would have to be say KI1 right?-
WRONG modem nothing to do with |kernel
Any modem on any firmware .
jje
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thank you, this means when 2.3.5 will be out I can upgrade the firmware and just go on.
is it the case that I will ever need to change the KG4 firmware? -- I tend to think yes if major fixes and what not ... say from KG4 to KG5 and so on KG9 to KI1?
Normal to upgrade firmware each time but its users choice .
jje
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Sorry if the question is really really simple in advance!
My phone is currently
Baseband - I9100XXDJ
Kernel - I9100XWKE2
Build - Gingerbread.XWKE2
Now i've seen the various insecure kernels and a couple of roms, but the roms mention xwke7. so am I able to flash with a newer kernel or do i have to stick on the same kernel i have now. will me moving from ke2 to ke7 do anything to my phone apart from just update the kernel?
What i had hoped to do was:
- install villianrom
- install the stock ke7 kernel to improve battery life (mine is dreadful atm, i barely get 10 hours out of it in standby!)
- have new rom with root access
would i be able to do this? the phone is on O2 with the O2 boot animation and i've read its possible to flash back to o2 image if needed?
any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks
mk2media said:
Sorry if the question is really really simple in advance!
My phone is currently
Baseband - I9100XXDJ
Kernel - I9100XWKE2
Build - Gingerbread.XWKE2
Now i've seen the various insecure kernels and a couple of roms, but the roms mention xwke7. so am I able to flash with a newer kernel or do i have to stick on the same kernel i have now. will me moving from ke2 to ke7 do anything to my phone apart from just update the kernel?
You update the firmware not just the kernel its all in one package .
would i be able to do this? the phone is on O2 with the O2 boot animation and i've read its possible to flash back to o2 image if needed?
Yes but you need to have saved to O2 rom .
Luckily O2 original rom is posted in the dev section .
Gingerbread 2.3.4 is rumoured/fact to arrive by next week in which case i would not update to KE7 ..
You can mix kernels and roms even modems and roms but that would be your choice ..
jje
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thanks for the advice
so if i wait to update to 2.3.4 what options do i then have?
instead of starting a new thread thought i would post here.
I am wanting to root my SGS2 and have read through the CF-Root thread.
Im just a bit confused/aprehensive as to the firmware. My phone says -
Baseband: I9100BOKD1
Kernal version: BOKE3
do i have to stick to the same firmware for rooting so KE3 over KE3 or can i just use the KE7 firmware to gain root?
Thanks
Your chice KE7 is later firmware but 2.3.4 due anytime may pay to wait .
jje
JJEgan said:
Your chice KE7 is later firmware but 2.3.4 due anytime may pay to wait .
jje
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I believe XWKE8 is out .
stian230 said:
I believe XWKE8 is out .
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For some India yes .
jje
Hi ,
I am using SGS2 from Germany (unbranded)
My initial firmware for KE2 and I then flashed KF2.
My current phone config is
Code:
PDA : I9100XXKF2
PHONE : I9100XXKF2
CSC : I9100XAKF2
Ofcourse as always for me, Kies is not working for firmware upgrade (is it because i have it rooted?)
Anyway I was checking the fiwmare details on CheckFusdownloader and found out today that the firmware for Europe is
Code:
I9100XWKF3/I9100XEUKD1/I9100XXKE7/I9100XWKF3
After downloading the file, the TAR looks like this
Code:
I9100XWKF3_I9100XXKE7_I9100XEUKD1_HOME.TAR
My questions are:
1. How can I map the above with Phone / PDA / CSC etc?
2. Is this the new firmware than KF2?
3. IS it worth moving to this firmware?
4. Would I be able to root?
My battery life seems to be somewhat improved from KE2 to KF2.
Thanks
The newest kernel is KG1 Gingerbread 2.3.4.
Move to KG1. Forget KF3. everyone's on KG1. Fixes battery life and other things Google talk+video.
It goes in alphabetical order efg so G is the newest KG1.
and I am assuming they are in order
So PDA then Phone then CSC.
My CSC is UNKNOWN LOL, true fact.
Latest firmware is KG2 and thats 2.3.3.
KF2 is slighly older than KF3 .
KG12.3.4 is not a Samsung release its a leaked test firmware .
Root yes read the root post in dev section ..
My view wait for 2.3.4 to be released by Samsung for next upgrade if phone is working OK .
jje
1- As long as you are on stock firmware Kies won't make any difference, rooted or not.
2- AFAIK KF2 is the newer build than KF3 and the latest available for Europe.
3- Press *#1234# to see software info.
4- I'd say you should wait for official KG1 to be released. The current one is leaked and have bugs, so better avoid it.
Regards.
Sent from GT-I9100
I'd look up Lite'ning rom 2.2 if i were you...
Roots your phone, KG1 and all in there. Also Gingerbread 2.3.4.
Works perfect for me. Why wait for the official update. Modders will implement it very fast.
Good luck!
If you change to KG1 dont bother flashing the CSC, use the one you have at the moment.
I am not sure if there is much advantage to that KF3 based rom over KF2, so if you are happy with KF2 and dont want to jump to KG1 (which is working perfectly for me, I dont use stock browser) I wouldn't bother.
Yes you would be able to root btw, just use the KF3 kernel from chainfire.
Thanks guys for your feedback
BTW whats with CSC what will happen if I mess with it? phone will get bricked? lets s say if I flash CSC from another country will i be able to go back to Europe CSC?
Is this only for language?
CSC is only a few text files and xml files with lists of networks etc .
Not really needed for phone to work and a new one can easily be flashed .
jje
JJEgan said:
CSC is only a few text files and xml files with lists of networks etc .
Not really needed for phone to work and a new one can easily be flashed .
jje
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So that means i can flash any country's SGS2 firmware? Whats with baseband? have any info on that?
Baseband = modem/radio.
Yes flash any firmware and enter the networks APN manually as long as its on the same mhz it will work .
But if you flash Chinese firmware it will have Chinese keyboard etc .
PDA = firmware including kerel
Phone = modem/radio/baseband
CSC = country specifics with a list of local networks keyboard to use language to use etc .
Many firmwares are multi CSC say covering most of Europe .
jje
Thanks mate for the clarifications
one quick question. What happens if i try to update phone with multiple basebands?
galaxyII said:
one quick question. What happens if i try to update phone with multiple basebands?
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You can't, the device can only have one modem at a time.
thanks infratech, I mean more of flashing one baseband and reflashing another version. sorry too bad in explaining
galaxyII said:
thanks infratech, I mean more of flashing one baseband and reflashing another version. sorry too bad in explaining
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You will just replace the old one.
Hey im new 1 month into rooting. Just done some research and was abit confuse.
Im on VillianRom 2.42
Kennel: Ninphet 2.1.1
Baseband Version XXKG6
Im in Australia Melbourne, Vodafone (carrier)
My original Baseband was KF4 and read that connection with internet/signal is KF4
Am i meant to flash bak original Kennel bak into my pone.
What does mean? my theory is to go xda n download the original Carrier CF Root and flash it on my phone
Noob question but quite confused..
Thx
chan9096 said:
Hey im new 1 month into rooting. Just done some research and was abit confuse.
Im on VillianRom 2.42
Kennel: Ninphet 2.1.1
Baseband Version XXKG6
Im in Australia Melbourne, Vodafone (carrier)
My original Baseband was KF4 and read that connection with internet/signal is KF4
Am i meant to flash bak original Kennel bak into my pone.
Why Kernel has nothing to do with baseband/modem .
You have a Villain rom and your dog lives in Ninphet2.2.1 .
Your modem is KG6 .
Unless you are having reception problems leave it alone .
Or if you need go to dev forum modems posts and flash whatever modem you want .
jje
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chan9096 said:
Hey im new 1 month into rooting. Just done some research and was abit confuse.
Im on VillianRom 2.42
Kennel: Ninphet 2.1.1
Baseband Version XXKG6
Im in Australia Melbourne, Vodafone (carrier)
My original Baseband was KF4 and read that connection with internet/signal is KF4
Am i meant to flash bak original Kennel bak into my pone.
What does mean? my theory is to go xda n download the original Carrier CF Root and flash it on my phone
Noob question but quite confused..
Thx
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Ill say leave it, in case it does cause incompatibility issues with the ROM. Generally speaking regardless of the baseband, since do keep in mind, these phones are supposedly globally GSM compatible (except for select few CDMAers). I am using different baseband to Vodafone NZ but no reception issues. I am not 100% if VillianROM still use CSC codes, but essentially on the stock ROMs, CSC provides carrier specific settings. Check your CSC with *#12580*369#.
Mine shows up as
PDA: I9100XXKH3
Phone: I9100XXKH3
CSC: I9100VNZKG1 (the latest from Vodafone NZ) although its not KH3 but KG1.
Hello,
Greetings from Romania! Monster resources around here! I've started this thread because I need help in understanding some things that are not (yet!) clear to me. So, please be patient with me.
I want to install an AOSP ROM (CyanogenMod or MIUI, still not decided) and before I start to customize my SGS2, I would like to ask you a few questions.
Here is the info for my unlocked and unbranded SGS2:
*#1234#
PDA: i9100XWKI4
Phone: i9100XXKI1
CSC: i9100OXFKE1
Settings->About phone
Android: 2.3.4
Baseband: i9100XXKI1
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-i9100XWKI4-CL575468
Build: GINGERBREAD.XWKI4
So, here are my questions:
1. Does Phone=Baseband=Modem?
2. CSC is included in the firmware? If I update to XWKK2, will the phone work in my country (Romania: East Europe)?
3. What's the latest firmware? In this thread, it seems that XWKK2 is the latest. Is there a newer one?
4. The official Samsung firmware includes the stock ROM? If I update the firmware to XWKK2, will I have Android 2.3.6 Samsung stock ROM?
5. Is it recommended to update the current firmware of the phone before you start the rooting process? What are the benefits of updating the firmware?
6. Basically, is the Kernel independent from the firmware and can it be updated individually? As I can see, the XWKK2 stock Kernel can be downloaded separately.
7. Do I need to update also the Kernel to the latest version (XWKK2) before starting the rooting process? (Obviously, if I update the Kernel, when rooting according to Chainfire's guide, I will choose the correct CF-Root Kernel file: CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_KK2-v5.0-CWM5.zip)
8. After I root the phone (CF-Root 5.0), flash an ASOP ROM, do I need to/is it possible to update the firmware as soon as a new one is available from Samsung?
9. Is it possible to remove that warning triangle with an USB Jig if I have XWKK2? Or do I need to follow Chainfire's instructions found here? Which method to use? What are the differences between these two methods, besides the custom ROM count reset that the USB Jig will do?
10. The ASOP ROM that I'll flash (CM, MIUI, etc.) will have its own Kernel? If so, then there's no need to update the stock Kernel to XWKK2 in the first place? Only update the firmware before the root?
11. If Chainfire releases a new version for his CF-Root, say 6.0, do I need to update/reroot so that I'll have the new versions for Busybox, CWM?
12. After the successful rooting of my SGS2 using CF-Root, I'll make a backup of my existing stock ROM using CWM. If I need to use the warranty, I'll restore the stock ROM using CWM. Will this action remove CWM, Busybox and the associated root access so that the Samsung Service won't know what I've done (of course, also custom ROM count reset using USB Jig)?
As you can see, what I can't understand, are the relations between Firmware, Kernel and ROM! Which one includes the other ones?
Thank you! I'll really appreciate all the help I can get!
jimmyhoff said:
Hello,
Greetings from Romania! Monster resources around here! I've started this thread because I need help in understanding some things that are not (yet!) clear to me. So, please be patient with me.
I want to install an AOSP ROM (CyanogenMod or MIUI, still not decided) and before I start to customize my SGS2, I would like to ask you a few questions.
Here is the info for my unlocked and unbranded SGS2:
*#1234#
PDA: i9100XWKI4
Phone: i9100XXKI1
CSC: i9100OXFKE1
Settings->About phone
Android: 2.3.4
Baseband: i9100XXKI1
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-i9100XWKI4-CL575468
Build: GINGERBREAD.XWKI4
So, here are my questions:
1. Does Phone=Baseband=Modem?
YES = Modem sometimes called Radio and modems are interchangeable
2. CSC is included in the firmware? If I update to XWKK2, will the phone work in my country (Romania: East Europe)?
Yes if its Romanian firmware and CSC and yes if you enter network apn settings manually or flash a correct CSC .
3. What's the latest firmware? In this thread, it seems that XWKK2 is the latest. Is there a newer one?
KK5 latest in that thread .
4. The official Samsung firmware includes the stock ROM? If I update the firmware to XWKK2, will I have Android 2.3.6 Samsung stock ROM?
Stock = Samsung rom KK2 in the stock rom thread is stock .
5. Is it recommended to update the current firmware of the phone before you start the rooting process? What are the benefits of updating the firmware?
Really regards rooting to match latest firmware to latest rooted kernel
6. Basically, is the Kernel independent from the firmware and can it be updated individually?
No its part of the firmware the actual core if you like . Yes it can be updated individually from XDA .
As I can see, the XWKK2 stock Kernel can be downloaded separately.
7. Do I need to update also the Kernel to the latest version (XWKK2) before starting the rooting process? (Obviously, if I update the Kernel, when rooting according to Chainfire's guide, I will choose the correct CF-Root Kernel file: CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_KK2-v5.0-CWM5.zip)
No flash stock XWKK2 first then root with KK2 root is the simple method .
8. After I root the phone (CF-Root 5.0), flash an ASOP ROM, do I need to/is it possible to update the firmware as soon as a new one is available from Samsung?
Custom roms are not always updated via Samsung firmware route as product codes do not match whats on the server .
10. The ASOP ROM that I'll flash (CM, MIUI, etc.) will have its own Kernel? If so, then there's no need to update the stock Kernel to XWKK2 in the first place? Only update the firmware before the root?
If you flash stock KK2 you are including KK2 kernel its always part of the package .
11. If Chainfire releases a new version for his CF-Root, say 6.0, do I need to update/reroot so that I'll have the new versions for Busybox, CWM?
Not really .
12. After the successful rooting of my SGS2 using CF-Root, I'll make a backup of my existing stock ROM using CWM. If I need to use the warranty, I'll restore the stock ROM using CWM. Will this action remove CWM, Busybox and the associated root access so that the Samsung Service won't know what I've done (of course, also custom ROM count reset using USB Jig)?
No as your backup includes the CWM rooted kernel .
Simple method is flash full stock firmware to remove root etc and reset custom rom counter .
As you can see, what I can't understand, are the relations between Firmware, Kernel and ROM! Which one includes the other ones?
ROM basically the full package PDA = firmware including kernel
Phone = modem CSC = country specifics
Kernel Modem and CSC can be flashed separately and changed from original .
KK2 firmware with KK1 Firmware KH3 Modem and CSC for another area is all possible .
jje
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Many thanks JJE! You're just awesome!
Hello fellow XDA-members,
I currently have an S2 with the following system information:
Android: 2.3.3
Baseband: I9100XXKE4
Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKE7-CL215725
GINGERBREAD.XWKE7
Updating through Kies won't work, as it said it did not recognise blabla (possibly due root and changed kernel).
I would like to update to the next official rom, with 2.3.5 (or 6, I'm not sure what the latest version was). I'm kind a lost in the maze of all the ROMS and stuff, so could anyone point me to the right next official ROM that I could flash & be up to date to the latest stable android?
Regards,
Paul
Stock Roms .and csc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Choose the one you want for your country /location 2.3.5 or 2.3.6 .
jje
So for example, I could take the following one, then pick the XEN (Ntherlands) download (I live in Holland, T-Mobile). Do you also need to pick the kernel, or only flash this XEN one?
XWKK2
Firmware info
PDA:XWKK2
PHONE: XXKI4
Date: 11/11/2011
Android 2.3.6
XEN (Netherlands): http://www.multiupload.com/PBBE9HBXTS
XSA (Australia): http://www.multiupload.com/DRS2VVATBP
XWKK2 Stock Kernel: http://www.multiupload.com/7PRSFYHUWL
Password: [email protected]
Stock rom do not need another kernel .
XEN for your location .
jje
I meant, I currently have the "Kernel: 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKE7-CL215725", some time ago I flashed it to that kernel and applied root. I just only need to download the XEN version ROM, and just flash it, I do not need to download that specific kernel too and flash that before. (So in summary, just flash the rom, not needed to change the kernel I already had).
Thanks
Kernel is part of the firmware package not a separate item .
Kernels posted are not part of the update you flash firmware xxx and you have CSC OS APPS MODEM and KERNEL updated .
You will need to reroot use same kernel number as the one you flash .
jje