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I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
willy900wonka said:
I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
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I'm noticing reduced 2G and 3G reception too...judging by the Sense "bars" at home I'm in a kinda fringe area....and on the 4G I would get 3...sometimes 4, more often 2 bars. On the 3D I get 0 to 2 bars, most often 1.
Though perhaps they changed those bars to reflect 3G instead of 2G....I know the 2G coverage around here better than 3G by a small bit. As far as usability/performance I have noticed no difference....except at work in the bathroom, noticeably lower speeds/threshold for roaming...potential deal breaker
But I imagine a radio update would be able to address this, perhaps it already has been...I'm not applying any OTA for now though.
But, yeah, slightly weaker 3G performance....but I can live with it.
It gets me thinking though, if we can't get this thing unlocked in the 30-day window and I take it back and wait for the SGS2, which will likely have the usual lackluster Samsung radios....will that be roughly the same as this? Cuz i can live with that, or will it be worse? Cuz I couldn't deal with reception less than this...not even by a hair, I'm already on cusp.....but, if it is the same or better then I have no concerns....
I've been trying to get this problem noticed by the community here but i think there may have been a bad batch of phones. I'll try to get mine replaced
Edit: download open signal on both devices and compare the dbm level on both phones
I live less than 10 miles from the Sprint headquarters and can't get 4G connection in my neighborhood. I certainly didn't expect this to be what all the hype was about.
willy900wonka said:
I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
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I used to need an Airave, then I moved. I had full bars in my home on my EVO 4G and my wife did also on her Palm Pre. I called Sprint and told them I no longer needed the Access Point and to send a return kit. I picked the EVO 3D up two days later, and I now need to keep the Airave. My wife still enjoys full bars on the EVO I gave her, but I get 1 bar consistently, at home.
I also used to get 5 bars in my office with my EVO, I get 2 if I'm lucky with the 3D. Between the ****ty reception and the lag, its probably going back before the 30 days are up. I love the hell out of the phone otherwise, but it lags too much. Poor reception, though, thats a deal breaker for me.
I have both phones and I can tell you I get much better reception with the 3D than I do with the evo. On 4G I get 1 bar with the evo and 2 bars with the 3D. Im also noticing that on the 3D 4G stays on all the time on my evo it would switch drop the 4G connection all the time and I had to disable/enable 4G in order for it to connect again.
I've been noticing a LOT of roaming happening on my 3d lately, in comparison to my OG evo, it's a lot worse. Otherwise, I have an airrave at home, I wanna get something like that for work. I guess you have to make a tradeoff somewhere, amazing battery life with ****ty reception, or decent reception with horrible battery life. I take the 1st one.
Plus I'm finally finding 4g in my area
Noticing a lot of roaming on my 3D as well. Never saw it on my Evo.
I may be, at a cross roads in some twenty days.
At least Sprint will be able to verify my issue, since roaming is probably logged.
Ever since I switched over from my EVO 4G, signal strength became very poor.... I constantly has no data and voice!? It has never happened to my original EVO... is anyone having the same problem?? Is there anything I could do on my end??
KaiKo20 said:
Ever since I switched over from my EVO 4G, signal strength became very poor.... I constantly has no data and voice!? It has never happened to my original EVO... is anyone having the same problem?? Is there anything I could do on my end??
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When did you switch? My LTEvo started doing that I guess around Friday sometime? I got a few texts and calls here and there, but now .... nothing incoming. But I can make calls out. Factory reset/cdma only/with&without wifi/prl&profile etc, *2 prl&profile also no luck, waiting to hear back from a tech. May take it to swap if theres any in and see. I got mine 24th? and had been great untill the other day.
I've had the same problem since last weekend. My phone keeps going to roam with 1-2 bars, whereas before it would be on Sprint's network with about 3 out of 6 bars.
Download speeds are slower than normal over the 3G as well. I used my OG Evo 4G in an area without WiMax, so I am used to Sprint's 3G speeds, but they definitely seem worse on the EVO LTE.
I try downloading Profile & PRL updates every other day, as well as rebooting daily, but it doesn't seem to help.
I also got mine on the 24th, and it has been bad ever since... I did some updates but seem no improvements, wonder if the signal booster apps from play store help...
KaiKo20 said:
I also got mine on the 24th, and it has been bad ever since... I did some updates but seem no improvements, wonder if the signal booster apps from play store help...
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It seems pretty wide spread about signal strength, data speeds, and wifi signal drop. I'm hoping it's a software thing and not a hardware thing. Software can be fixed with code, hardware...you're screwed! My wife has the LTE and has had this issues as well.
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My phone started doing this today too. I really hope it gets addressed and it's not hardware, I don't feel like taking it back after just setting everything up.
Let's listen to ourselves and think about this for a moment....
:My phone started to do this today".
I guess it must be contagious because my wife's Epic 4G and my work Blackberry both developed it our home location as well.
An epidemic outbreak!
I have a sneaking suspicion that Sprint messed up the latest prl.
Also, wouldn't hurt to update profile and prl from Settings/System Updates
I was reading about signal issues on the Nexus S 4G (which is what my wife has), and they recommended turning NFC off. I tried this on both my Evo LTE and her NS4G, and it seemed to be better for a little bit, but when we woke up this morning, both of our phones were back to roaming.
I think the only thing left to do is blame Sprint's PRL update, since this problem seems to be affecting more than just our new Evo LTE's.
I was happy to see a thread on this, I got mine on Saturday and having had Sprint prior the signal strength is way less. It also tends to swing a lot, going from full to 1 or 0 bars. Sometimes when I pick it up and turn the screen on there is no signal at all.
My wifi has been awful, I turned of nfc and its fantastic! Thanks! I did have the missed calls and texts not going thru and I swapped it out at best buy and hasnt happend since
Edit: First few speed test where awesome, but when I leave the room my routers in the speed goes from 13mps to 4mps...
Is anyone else noticing sharp changes in signal strength in the same location? I am in areas where I used to get strong signal from Sprint, but this new Evo drops from 4-5 bars to 1, or sometimes none at times. I have called in and they claim nothing is wrong but I don't want to get stuck with a defective unit before my return period closes in another week. Also upon pressing *2 it says a PRL update is available, but it never actually updates and that message remains... Thanks.
Scrooge276 said:
Is anyone else noticing sharp changes in signal strength in the same location? I am in areas where I used to get strong signal from Sprint, but this new Evo drops from 4-5 bars to 1, or sometimes none at times. I have called in and they claim nothing is wrong but I don't want to get stuck with a defective unit before my return period closes in another week. Also upon pressing *2 it says a PRL update is available, but it never actually updates and that message remains... Thanks.
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I'm pretty sure your okay. I had the same thing happen with my HTC EVO 4G from Sprint and it also happens with my new HTC EVO LTE. It's never caused me a problem before on my EVO 4G, and I've had my EVO LTE now for a while, with no problems, so I think we are okay. I think it just has to do with Sprint's towers, nothing that you have to worry about.
Side by side, my OG EVO gets at least 2 bars better than my LTE. I think that is a radio issue that will be fixed with the first update
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Saw this earlier.
http://www.techhive.com/article/2000138/htc-evo-4g-lte-signal-woes-confirmed.html
Has anyone (that's unlocked w/custom recovery) tried downgrading the radio to see if that helps?
If this isn't fixable with an update soon, not a promise of one, mine is going back. I was losing signal the last couple days, but I was able to use my daughter's EVO to place a few calls. Totally unacceptable. I made fun of the iPhones reception problems, and laughed at the fix, I'll be damned if I'll put up with it, no matter how cool the phone is
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I've searched the forums for this, but don't see an exact match. Sorry if I missed a duplicate thread, and a link to it would suffice as an answer.
I am nearing the end of my 2 year contract for my Sprint Evo 4G. I think they are referred to as OG Evo's here for some reason? OG = Original? Anyway, it's been a GREAT phone. Wife got one at the same time. I rooted both of them, installed Sprint Lovers Rom and have basically done nothing else since except refuse updates and install/uninstall apps. I rooted it to be able to do wifi tether, which I depend on at times.
The only real reason I'm thinking of getting the 4G LTE version is the camera. The camera on the Evo 4G just flat sucks. My only complaint on the phone, but a big one as I am outdoors a lot, like to take pictures a lot, and would like to get away from carrying a point and shoot in addition to my phone. I've played with settings until I'm blue in the face, and get the occasional decent picture, but it's just not good. I want a very good camera and it seems this phone has one, by all official reviews I've seen on it.
But I also read on the 4G LTE forums a lot of reports of more dropped calls, connectivity and slow data issues compared to other phones like the Evo 3D. Where I live, all we have is 3G. I've done some speednet tests on it and get in the area of 1.25mb down, .30mb up currently. That works for what I need. We will likely not see LTE anytime soon, if ever, here at the house (in the Ozark Mts of Arkansas).
Am I likely to see performance impacts if I go to the 4G LTE? If so, has anyone done comparisons to see how much is lost? I really, really, really want a better camera, but not if it's going to make calls and/or tethering worse.
I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
jesuspgt said:
I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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No LTE in my area as well but between wifi and decent 3g I'm enjoying the faster speed of the LTE
jesuspgt said:
I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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That's spot on for my wife and I who both switched from the OG to the LTE, and the LTE is only going to spread
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It just so happens that I have both my OG Evo and new LTE right here in front of me.
In general, I have noticed the reception of the LTEvo is marginally worse (0 to 5 dB worse) which is not significant and will probably not be noticable.
Wifi and GPS appear equally superb. No complains at all.
The camera is definitely better overall but that should be a given. Daylight pictures are excellent but indoor lowlight picture are very subject to motion blur. It is fairly difficult to get a picture to come out perfectly crisp with low light. Installing a ROM with an HD Camera mod definitely helps too. I've attached several pictures. A couple to demonstrate the challenges of low lighting and a couple with good outdoor lighting. Could I have taken a better low light picture? Sure I can and I definitely retook the pictures that turned out bad but that's an extra shot and extra time wasted.
Good luck!
I had an OG Evo myself, and it was a smooth transition from it to the LTEVO. I did have connectivity issues and WiFi issues, but that was addressed by the latest OTA, which was baked into several ROMs with r00t access.
The big delta for me between the OG Evo and LTEVO, was the hardware platform with better CPU, RAM and sdcard specs. On the software side, it came preloaded with ICS and JB is on the way, so there's no comparison.
In the camera department, yes, I hated the OG Evo camera, even at the 8 MP benchmark. However, even stock, the LTEVO camera destroys the OG Evo in the camera department and there are mods available here to enhance it, which I run personally on my daily driver handset.
Last but not least, the OG Evo necessitated carrying extra charged batteries with you, and chargers themselves, since the OG Evo was an energy hog. The LTEVO is sooooo much better in this department, and I've had runs that lasted well over 24 hours without a charge.
Convinced yet?
HTH!
~ Mike
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i came from the og evo to the LTE, both rooted with s-off. and my data seems faster on the LTE. as far as dropped calls i can probably count on one hand how many times that happened between both phones.
I suspect you'll be very interested in a thread I created. Took a pic with the Evo 4G, and then one with the LTE.
Pics in the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672864
It's pretty obvious that the LTE has a MUCH better camera.
... after quickly ready through some of the threads here, there seems to be a problem with alot of EVOs not staying connected to LTE signal. In thier experiences thier phone will find the 4G signal then quickly drop back 3G or thier phone will not even connect to a 4G signal even though they are in a confirmed 4G area.
I never had this problem until recently. When 4G went unofficially live in Los Angeles my phone would switch seamless from 3g to 4g and back. It was just recently in the last week that my phone now will not connect to 4G unless I cycle through airplane mode. Once 'im on 4G my phones signal is rock solid and stays on 4G. When I'm out of a 4G area it drops back to 3G but will not swap back to 4G when I return to a 4G area.
It so weird that all of a sudden it started doing this. I notice that when this happens i'm at half (or less) charge. Maybe my phone is doing this to conserve battery.. i don't know. I can see if my phone did this from the get go but it's just weird that for two weeks it was fine and them all of a sudden the radios are not swapping correctly...
thoughts?
UPDATE : So i got off the phone with HTC and they said it is a tower/carrier problem. Is this possible?
tenfingas said:
UPDATE : So i got off the phone with HTC and they said it is a tower/carrier problem. Is this possible?
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Possible: Yes.
But no, its exclusive to the EVO LTE. You can inform them that the iPhone 5, SGS 3 & LG Viper (I wouldn't say all of them, but some of them, you're just trying to get a point across) phones in your area, stay connected, where as the EVO LTE (say your's & a few others) does, not.
^It doesn't have to be true, but the fact that it is a bug, is true & it needs to be addressed. If it were carrier based, Sprint's other LTE phones would be in the same boat.
Say your'e reporting it as a bug & could you submit a ticket or add to an exsisting one. (Heck, they might not even have trouble tickets.)
People mess up the bug process by going back and forth with the rep, just stick you your guns & stay polite.
I think it's an Evo LTE thing myself. I just got LTE here in LA, and I actually just noticed that I was back on 3G for whatever reason. Got back on by airplane mode-ing.
Although, I will say that it has gone to 4G automatically in another part of LA, so I'm not sure what's going on with that.
I would've liked for the LTE to be a toggle like 4G was on the OG Evo.
I wpuldnt know, Arizona never gets any love haha
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I think it was the towers because all of a sudden my phone is switching seamlessly again.
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