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For those of you that want to get a 64gb model, what do you plan on using it for that justifies the extra cost?
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i am a pilot and like to carry approach plates and charts for the entire us. I know i could get a microsd but i already have a nearly full class 10 32gb microSD so its just more space.
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For those of you that want to get a 64gb model, what do you plan on using it for that justifies the extra cost?
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I think this is a no brainer really. a 64gb micro SD card is like what $200+, to get 96gb on a 32gb model would be quite expensive, but if you get a 64gb model and then add a 32gb card, it would work out less.
and if you have a lot of full hi-def movies on a tablet, to take full advantage of the hi-res screen, you won't fit many films on a 32gb card.
Gobs of media files - music and pdf manuals largely. While wifi coverage grows daily, I'm not in a major metropolitan area so finding coverage can be a challenge. The cloud is great - if you can get at it.
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Why do people buy 32gb?
I ordered the 64GB version because I can, I say it's better with to much space then to little. And I don't want to come in that position that I don't have enough space, don't like when I get limited because of the hardware.
videos and music is the main use. I first thought on to buy the 32GB + MicroSD card, but with MicroSD you are limited to 4GB files and that is not good when most of the movies are bigger then 4GB. (can be wrong about this)
And was there something wrong with this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19853926
[Q] Why 64GB?
B/C $100 for double the disk space is a good deal.... and I'm not constrained by my budget... so why wouldn't I get it?
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If you need to have 96 gb or more its better. It depends on what your using it for. Those who are buying 32gb I think have a very specific use in mind and know how much space they need or are just going to use it as a media consumption device.
Those that are buying the 64gb version probably fit in 3 camps:
1) can afford the space so why not?
2) are using it for work and know/need/want to make sure that they have all of their materials at hand if they have no connectivity (I need geo maps, research papers, my own work, and entertainment on the device.) and don't want to lug or power a portable device.
3) Commuters who want to have access to a large selection of media on the device.
I personally would love to have a 128gb chip or a few of them and dump my bulky external drive. Though I think their price is a little high yet. 1tb would give me wet dreams. (my current ext hd)
Though I do amit that even if I didn't think I had the need for 64gb I would have bought it as you can never add more to the device itself. Say if you buy 32gb and need 128 your spending more than if you bought 64gb and 64gb chip. Barring the fact that you carry a collection of chips.
Cheers!
I'm just trying to think of whether I would be able to make use of the extra space. I don't think "why not?" or "because I can" are good reasons
I feel like maybe there are some useful/cool things I could do with the prime if I had extra space, but I'm still not sure what that is. I only have like ~8 gigs of music. I don't feel like I need a large media library on my device, since I'll know the 1 or 2 things I want to watch at any given time.
Using it as a general storage device might be interesting though.
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I'm just trying to think of whether I would be able to make use of the extra space. I don't think "why not?" or "because I can" are good reasons
I feel like maybe there are some useful/cool things I could do with the prime if I had extra space, but I'm still not sure what that is. I only have like ~8 gigs of music. I don't feel like I need a large media library on my device, since I'll know the 1 or 2 things I want to watch at any given time.
Using it as a general storage device might be interesting though.
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Sounds like you might be better with a 32gb version then. Just think of all you would want to put on it get an estimated size then how close are you to 32gb if you break it I would buy the 64gb if you don't come close a 32 with an sdhc for expansion would be good I think.
I also think because I can can be a valid reason, think of it like this at the price the difference is not much for double the storage. Personally being a dink(double income no kids) the extra cost is nothing but the cost of not buying what I need can be the difference between having a useful device with no extra work to a useful device that I have to manage what sdhc cards have want info, loaded, and hope I don't loose the other cards. Just dont forget the oppurnity cost of the device.
I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
Because I need more than 128gb I think a >=96gb chip is more than 100? And 100$ just is not that much to me.
Well future devices will have up to 128GB of flash storage. It was just released a couple weeks back or so that they finally made it possible.
JoeyLe said:
I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
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I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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Dude, if you like needlessly throwing money at things just because you can, feel free to throw a little my way
JoeyLe said:
I don't get why people think $100 extra is a fair deal for the 64GB.
An Samsung 32GB Class 10 card is €30 in Holland, while we pay €100 extra for the 64GB version.
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to get 96gb on a 32gb model would be quite expensive as a 64gb card is $200+, but if you get a 64gb model and then add a 32gb card, it would work out less.
and if you have a lot of full hi-def movies on a tablet, to take full advantage of the hi-res screen, you won't fit many films on a 32gb card.
Do you stream or do you store? Storing music, even if you have a large library, doesn't chew up tons of storage. Video, especially high-profile, does. Plex and PlayOn pretty much eliminate the need to store video locally. I only store stuff when I know I'm going to be on long plane flights without Wi-Fi.
I've got about 2K Rhapsody downloads on my 32GB and a couple of local MKV videos and am using less than half the storage. More is always better and once you buy it you can't go back but it's also kind of stupid to piss money away (no matter how much you claim to have) on something you're not going to use. And it looks like January for the 64GB's so that's something to consider too.
I'm the one who created the other thread. I finally decided for the 64GB for the following reasons:
-I can (i mean, it's not a real effort to pay the extra)
-Now i don't see the real need for the 64Gb, but i don't know if i will need them in the time i have it, as it's my first tablet. Having the 64Gb means if in the future i need the extra storage, i will have it. Having the 32Gb would mean the need to buy extra microSD cards.
-I travel a lot, and sometimes for long time. SD cards are fine, but internal storage means faster reads and less problems (like forgetting the sd or having it lost/broken for any reason)
-I plan on using it for a little gaming too, if the games start to need more space, i will already have it and not depend on the sd card. I hate having to watch which apps I can have or not have due to space in my Nexus One.
-I have a dSLR so i'd like to use it too for pic displaying and very basic editing if needed (with the dock + sd cards). This pics are quite huge (10mb each, ~30mb if shot in raw), so moving a few of them to the internal storage (for using without the dock) would be quite space consuming.
-Having a 32gb microsd card means 96gb instead of 64, which further expands this capabilities.
I can't depend either on music/video streaming. Most music I like isn't in cloud services and Google Music isn't available in Spain. My internet connection is pretty bad, and the router is even worse, with ocasional and random wifi disconnections.
With all this in mind, i just prefer spending a few more € on the 64gb and not fall short in some weeks.
Oh, i forgot the main reason. To stand up in the top of the mountain and laugh at the 32gb people
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I'm not constrained by my budget... so why wouldn't I get it?
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Swiftks said:
I don't get why I should have to justify why I want the 64 GB model.... if there was a $1000 limited edition one, I would have got that one, b/c I can.
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-I can (i mean, it's not a real effort to pay the extra)
Oh, i forgot the main reason. To stand up in the top of the mountain and laugh at the 32gb people
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It's fantastic that you both have the resources. It's incredibly ostentatious that, for whatever reason, you feel the need to share it with others that may not be in your position. Between this and the post in the BB thread where someone's order got canceled because of a debit card issue and some schmuck posted "I don't need to worry, my credit card has no limit" I'd say there's a lot of people on this forum who need to validate themselves.
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It's fantastic that you both have the resources. It's incredibly ostentatious that, for whatever reason, you feel the need to share it with others that may not be in your position. Between this and the post in the BB thread where someone's order got canceled because of a debit card issue and some schmuck posted "I don't need to worry, my credit card has no limit" I'd say there's a lot of people on this forum who need to validate themselves.
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That's way out of the reason i posted it. The OP is asking for reasons to get a 64 gb model over a 32gb one. Pricing is one of the possible reasons so I included it in the list just because it was an issue i considered while asking myself the same question, so it might be relevant to the OP. If i were just to try to show how proud i am of the money i have, i would remove the parenthesis (where i state that if getting the 64gb is an effort the OP should consider the 32Gb instead). The last sentence was a joke that someone posted on my the thread i created for this same reason and i liked and copied it here. You can check it if you want at the link someone posted in this thread.
I would buy the 64gb version due to the fact that on Honeycomb you can not move apps to the sd card and maybe this will change with ICS so with games taking up a lot of space the extra memory would be nice.
The only discernible difference is 8G of storage memory instead of 16G. The price is meant to match the Kindle Fire, obviously.
Here's a product link:
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/nook-tablet-barnes-noble/1104687969?ean=9781400501779
Note: I do not have one nor have I seen one of these -- just the page on the website.
Ram is also halved its now down to 512mb
Spec wise, it's pretty much the same as a Kindle Fire, but with microSD card support. Makes for a more interesting market out there for low cost tablets.
I guess the NT with 16GB are now an "NT Classic" model.
Perdiction: Barnes and Noble will be out of business within 2 years.
The Nook Tablet is far superior to Kindle Fire. But instead of B&N updating the NT so it can show off all it's bells and whistle, i.e., a true tablet for $249, these fools figured if we can't beat them, join them. Idiots.
I will sit back and watch B&N go down in flames and laugh my happy ass off.
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Also of note:
- NOOK Tablet–8GB: 5GB for content; of which 1GB is reserved for NOOK Store content
- NOOK Tablet–16GB:13GB for content; of which 12GB is reserved for NOOK Store content
Looks like they are giving more internal to the user by default in the 8gb unit.
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I guess the NT with 16GB are now an "NT Classic" model.
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I'd say this is more in line with how Apple rolled out the iPod nano - weaker specs, lower price.
I think it's actually pretty brilliant with what they're doing here. Tiered price models have been very successful in the past and B&N are competing wth the Kindle Fire on a more even playing field now. Everyone was obsessing over the price of the Fire; now there's a Nook to match it competitively.
That being said, I think the Fire's still gonna stay on top of the cheap tablet market. The average user is usually stuck with stock firnware and the content Amazon's got in that case is miles ahead of B&N.
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Perdiction: Barnes and Noble will be out of business within 2 years.
The Nook Tablet is far superior to Kindle Fire. But instead of B&N updating the NT so it can show off all it's bells and whistle, i.e., a true tablet for $249, these fools figured if we can't beat them, join them. Idiots.
I will sit back and watch B&N go down in flames and laugh my happy ass off.
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You mad bro?
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I'd say this is more in line with how Apple rolled out the iPod nano - weaker specs, lower price.
I think it's actually pretty brilliant with what they're doing here. Tiered price models have been very successful in the past and B&N are competing wth the Kindle Fire on a more even playing field now. Everyone was obsessing over the price of the Fire; now there's a Nook to match it competitively.
That being said, I think the Fire's still gonna stay on top of the cheap tablet market. The average user is usually stuck with stock firnware and the content Amazon's got in that case is miles ahead of B&N.
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I second that. Amazon apps are far more numerous and far more competitively priced than anything B&N has done so far. And the Kindle Fire is simply far easier to tinker with than the Nook Tablet.
B&N are trying to catch up with Amazon, but they started out a little late. Kindle Fire has now a solid reputation, and there is nothing B&N can do to reverse that.
I went for the NT because on paper it seemed like a good choice: 16 GB of storage and microSD. But I found out that I could only use 1 GB of that storage. So I ended up buying an 8 GB miscroSD card.
If I had to do it all over again, I probably would go with a Kindle Fire.
Now with the CM7, and hopefully CM9 soon enough, I have a decent cheap 7" tablet.
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You mad bro?
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Mad? No. Just stating the facts. Barnes and Noble is a failed company and it doesn't have to be.
Instead of freeing up the Nook Tablet, these fools make a Nook Kindle Fire. Have these idiots no understanding of why the KF is out selling them? No, they don't.
So you half the memory and lower the price $50. Did they think the reason they weren't selling like the KF was the price? It's not the price. It's the BN software they locked the device down with.
The average buyer has no idea what root is nor should they. What they know is they can't do the things on the NT that can be done on a KF. They know that free apps on the KF cost $3.99 on the NT. They don't care that the NT is a much better product spec wise. They know that when they purchased a product called a Nook "Tablet", they weren't expecting a Nook "Reader".
Mad? No. Pissed at myself for buying and then not returning this locked down POS - yes.
Looks to me like more great hardware at a reasonable price. The average user may prefer the total package that comes with the Fire (hardware and apps) or even the iPad. But, with the resources available here to root the Nook Tablets and load CM7 or CM9, these are great tablets.
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Perdiction: Barnes and Noble will be out of business within 2 years.
The Nook Tablet is far superior to Kindle Fire. But instead of B&N updating the NT so it can show off all it's bells and whistle, i.e., a true tablet for $249, these fools figured if we can't beat them, join them. Idiots.
I will sit back and watch B&N go down in flames and laugh my happy ass off.[/QUOTE
I bet their decisions are based on Sixsigma/Lean LOL
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My opinion is that the 16GB nook tab is much better than KF and the 8GB nook tab, as we have
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and of course 1 GB RAM
For me the ram is the most important
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Mad? No. Just stating the facts. Barnes and Noble is a failed company and it doesn't have to be.
Instead of freeing up the Nook Tablet, these fools make a Nook Kindle Fire. Have these idiots no understanding of why the KF is out selling them? No, they don't.
So you half the memory and lower the price $50. Did they think the reason they weren't selling like the KF was the price? It's not the price. It's the BN software they locked the device down with.
The average buyer has no idea what root is nor should they. What they know is they can't do the things on the NT that can be done on a KF. They know that free apps on the KF cost $3.99 on the NT. They don't care that the NT is a much better product spec wise. They know that when they purchased a product called a Nook "Tablet", they weren't expecting a Nook "Reader".
Mad? No. Pissed at myself for buying and then not returning this locked down POS - yes.
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That's definitely not the case. Do you really think the main driver for sales of the Fire was whether or not it's an open platform?
The majority of consumers are not like us. They don't care about custom ROMs, rooting, or modding. Most of them just buy devices and use them. Amazon is a bigger and more tech-savvy company with better marketing muscle. They also have a leg-up in the e-reader market since they broke it into the mainstream with the original Kindle. That means they get better exposure and better brand name recognition by default when compared to B&N, regardless of what products are competing. They also have WAY more digital content to offer than B&N, especially on the Fire, which had the lower price tag initially and was announced way earlier than the Nook Tablet. Being first is a powerful thing.
I agree that the Nook Tablet being locked down sucks, but it's not going to end B&N. Amazon will stay dominant but device markets usually have room for second-placers and runners-up. B&N is still a very important figure in the book business too, digital or not.
The problem as I see it with Barnes and Noble is with their fragmentation of their apps into yet another app store. They are doing the 70/30 pay structure similar to Apple. What they should be doing is have curated or "Nook Recommends" store that is compatible with Android.
The current selection of apps is not going to do it. They don't have FB, Twitter, top game developers on board. That and having apps that cost money when the same apps are on iOS or Android for free (no free version of words with friends).
They have all this power but no app ecosystem.
It's like having a V6 engine in a Power Wheels, and limiting the top speed to 5 mph.
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My opinion is that the 16GB nook tab is much better than KF and the 8GB nook tab, as we have
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For me the ram is the most important
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I agree. The loss of storage space is small potatoes when you have the sd slot. The loss of ram is a blow, especially if you're buying hardware for the long run.
Kindle fire also has advertising, unlike the nook tablet. Magazines, web- Amazon andi have seen on TV as well. nook tablet has had none of this. That said the nook tablet is better.
I bought my NT when they first came out. I couldn't wait to get it and was major league disappointed. In fact, the only thing that kept me from returning it was seeing some posts in these very forums talking about CM7 and CM9 coming.
Now I have CM7 up and running, thanks to Team-B, and I finally feel like I have a tablet worth owning.
That is the biggest issue in my mind with B&N and even with the KF. These tablets are so much less than they could be. I understand the need for the device makers to earn some money on these through book, magazine, movie, and app sales. However, they have crippled it so much and with the interface built for the over 70 crowd, this will just not keep anybody who has a smartphone happy for more than a couple of hours.
I still buy my books through B&N. They have wonderful ereader software that I use every day. They just don't have to shackle me to keep me as a customer.
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Pissed at myself for buying and then not returning this locked down POS - yes.
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Wait. This was posted today? :what:
Please define "locked down". My NT hasn't seemed very locked for the past 2 months... And even less locked the past 2 weeks.
Back on topic, no thanks, you can keep the KF and the 8GB NT. I prefer an sd card slot, and 16GB internal storage, and the GB of ram, and the ergonomics of the device.
IOW, NT (classic, lol) + CM7 (thanks again, guys) = happy camper
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8e0OLWQYc4 let the freak out begin LOL ;P
greetings, i am a noob *sorry newb*! so go ahead and scream at me if you wish (that video had me rotfl), i bet you can't say anything to me that i haven't heard allready from people in Everquest, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends.
A friend introduced me to Xda when I was consitering buying a nook and he explained the concept of rooting.
Anyway, my question revolves around the half the ram on the new nook tablet. Assuming that there is no problems with rooting it, how much will half the ram effect the system?
I thought seeing the $50 price slash was a godsend, 8gig of storage i can live without, besides, its upgradeable if i really need it, but half the ram? whats the point of sticking on a faster processer if your gonna gut the ram?
can anyone give me an opinon as to if this is worth the price slash? or is $50 worth the extra ram?
its not half the RAM... its half the Storage. Which unless you are going to do some advanced partitioning you probably won't get much use out of anyway.
You pretty much have to get an external micro-SD card for these anyway as B&N only makes 1GB of the internal storage easily available.
Short answer... yeah its pretty much worth it. You can find 32gb cards online For $35 so you won't be missing much.
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I cannot say whether or not it is worth it, because I have no experience with any other Android tablets besides the Nook, but I can confirm according to its website that is does have half the ram as well as half the storage. 8 GB storage and 512k ram.
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greetings, i am a noob *sorry newb*! so go ahead and scream at me if you wish (that video had me rotfl), i bet you can't say anything to me that i haven't heard allready from people in Everquest, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends.
A friend introduced me to Xda when I was consitering buying a nook and he explained the concept of rooting.
Anyway, my question revolves around the half the ram on the new nook tablet. Assuming that there is no problems with rooting it, how much will half the ram effect the system?
I thought seeing the $50 price slash was a godsend, 8gig of storage i can live without, besides, its upgradeable if i really need it, but half the ram? whats the point of sticking on a faster processer if your gonna gut the ram?
can anyone give me an opinon as to if this is worth the price slash? or is $50 worth the extra ram?
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You may have noticed in the video that this forum is stricter than others. It's mainly to keep things from getting repeated and to save people time, though, and it works nicely that way. Developing is hard work. BTW, no one's head is gonna explode about this, but questions like this are probably best off in the Q&A section.
So, to answer your question, the RAM is halved, the storage is more readily accessible but also halved... is it worth the $50 dollars you save? Sure! It has the same specs and price of the Kindle fire, but with SD storage as well, and the Fire works just fine with 512 mb of RAM.
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its not half the RAM... its half the Storage. Which unless you are going to do some advanced partitioning you probably won't get much use out of anyway.
You pretty much have to get an external micro-SD card for these anyway as B&N only makes 1GB of the internal storage easily available.
Short answer... yeah its pretty much worth it. You can find 32gb cards online For $35 so you won't be missing much.
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No the RAM is indeed halved. All of the mainstream tech sites are reporting this, it's not a rumor.
As for partitioning, Nook Tabs are veeery picky about partition schemes,nso that's kinda dangerous. But the current alpha of CM7 gets you better access to the storage, and future releases are planned to allow full access.
my appolgies. tis a problem i usualy have figuring out which forum to post in, this seemed like the likely canidate since there were allready so many posts about the nook tablet 8gb. I will try to keep in mind that this is for tech questions only.
Thank-you very much for the feedback.
For $50 twice the ram and more storage (at least when you put CM7 on it). it seems easily worth it.
My opinion - definitely not worth it.
I got CM7 running on it, and I can see just how important it is.
You won't be running BN's ROM forever, and when you switch to CM7 (with CM9 coming soon, it seems), you really gonna wish you had that RAM, trust me.
I bought a NT last week on Ebay from B&N for $199. Not sure if they are still on sale, but you might check.
If it was a 1GB RAM / 8 GB storage deal, I'd have said the Kindle Fire had some real competition.
As it is, I'd definitely go for the 16 GB version. Not because of the extra storage, but those extra 512 MB in RAM are going to make a difference down the road. What was B&N thinking? Their real advantage over the Fire (RAM) is now gone!
Personally I'd shell out the extra few bucks for the RAM as well. If it were just the storage being reduced, I'd go with it, but the RAM is too important, imo.
fjhuerta said:
If it was a 1GB RAM / 8 GB storage deal, I'd have said the Kindle Fire had some real competition.
As it is, I'd definitely go for the 16 GB version. Not because of the extra storage, but those extra 512 MB in RAM are going to make a difference down the road. What was B&N thinking? Their real advantage over the Fire (RAM) is now gone!
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They're thinking that many consumers don't seem to know or care about the RAM (or other advantages of the Nook hardware), they just look at the price tag and $199 for the Fire beats $249. I hope it helps, though they've got a mountain to climb to overcome the Amazon ecosystem and Appstore.
With half the RAM and half the storage, NT loses most of it's advantages over Kindle Fire. The only advantage left is the microsd slot.
If I had to pick between 8GB NT and Kindle Fire, I'd take the fire because it offers more 'out of the box' content.
I totally stand corrected. I only saw the storage was being halved... yeah if the RAM is indeed halved then $50 is not a good enough discount for both of those hits.
If only I'd known this 2 days ago when I bought an 8GB version while being in the USA... Figured the 8GB less flash wasn't a big deal if you're using an SD card anyway, and not knowing about the RAM I "saved" some bucks. Now I'm back in Belgium with an 8GB Nook, with half the RAM too, and at the moment unable to run CM... Great
Anyway, I hope someone can get it to root and/or run CM soon!
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rootability (at least currently) also looks questionable
I certainly don't know the NT well, but I just helped my father in law get a 8GB tablet configured for its basic functionality. I'd like to be able to set it up to run non-BN sanctioned android apps, and from what I have found there is currently no known way to put go launcher or something similar in place that will allow it to be used for general android apps. This is a huge drawback, IMO. Hopefully in a reasonable time there will be some workarounds, but from the searches I have done, this is not currently doable. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
My father-in-law didn't want to put up the extra 50 bucks and I didn't realize at the time that there was much difference other than the extra storage. I had just assumed that with a 32GB SD card that it would be more than enough memory, but it seems there are other issues since it uses the new 1.4.2 OS too. It looks like B&N is deadset to make sure users can't use it for anything other than their apps. I'm thinking that he should just return the 8GB NT and go for the 16GB version instead.
They have figured out how to boot off an SD card for the 8G, now they are moving that over to the rooting SD versions and the recovery versions.
It will take a little bit of time but I think we will see a lot of progress in this next week.
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I certainly don't know the NT well, but I just helped my father in law get a 8GB tablet configured for its basic functionality. I'd like to be able to set it up to run non-BN sanctioned android apps, and from what I have found there is currently no known way to put go launcher or something similar in place that will allow it to be used for general android apps. This is a huge drawback, IMO. Hopefully in a reasonable time there will be some workarounds, but from the searches I have done, this is not currently doable. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
My father-in-law didn't want to put up the extra 50 bucks and I didn't realize at the time that there was much difference other than the extra storage. I had just assumed that with a 32GB SD card that it would be more than enough memory, but it seems there are other issues since it uses the new 1.4.2 OS too. It looks like B&N is deadset to make sure users can't use it for anything other than their apps. I'm thinking that he should just return the 8GB NT and go for the 16GB version instead.
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Lychii said:
With half the RAM and half the storage, NT loses most of it's advantages over Kindle Fire. The only advantage left is the microsd slot.
If I had to pick between 8GB NT and Kindle Fire, I'd take the fire because it offers more 'out of the box' content.
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I actually agree very much with this. The Kindle Fire's also ahead in terms of custom ROMs since it's not locked up. I chose the Nook Tablet (16 GB version) because I could buy it from my school bookstore and also use it with textbooks from my school.
If you have to choose between 8GB Nook Tab and 16GB Nook Tab, go with the 16 GB one. But if you're choosing between an 8GB Nook Tab and a Kindle Fire, I'd go with the Fire.
RAM use vs storage??
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I totally stand corrected. I only saw the storage was being halved... yeah if the RAM is indeed halved then $50 is not a good enough discount for both of those hits.
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What is the issue with ram vs storage? Sorry for such a newb question (I am a brand new B), but I don't know what the ram is dedicated for. Is it for OS only?
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What is the issue with ram vs storage? Sorry for such a newb question (I am a brand new B), but I don't know what the ram is dedicated for. Is it for OS only?
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Okay, this is a common misconception about computer storage vs. memory. They're not really the same thing, although the words used to describe them are very similar.
RAM/Memory = How much your computer can keep loaded up temporarily. Think of it as how much someone could be thinking about at once - RAM is important for a computer or device to be able to multi-task.
Storage/Disk space = How much information a computer can recall. Think of it as how much someone could remember.
Now, storage allows you to have more files on your device, but RAM allows your device to be more powerful and run more applications at once.
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I'm still going for the 10.1" 1920x1080 Transformer Pad Infinity, but for people that like a 7" ( ) can go for the nexus tab.
tegra 3, fail.
an s4 silicon chipset with corresponding GPU would have been nice. exynos, not really "cutting edge" by todays performance standards.
I disagree. Tegra 3 and nvidia are way ahead it terms of developer support. That's why there are so many tegra 3 titles. And at the $200 price point this makes the kindle fire look, well, horrible. I am very pleased with the original specs. Yes krait may have been better but nvidia goes out of its way to lower price points and gets it soc in as many devices as possible. If you want something that has all the greatest hardware then u have to put out the $$$. At $200 I know the android community will flock to it and I hope consumers will to. All in all, I will get one and I hope the 7inch factor will be as useful as I think.
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only 8gb without a sd card slot is bad, really bad, why have that nice screen when you basically dont have even the space to load movies on it?
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only 8gb without a sd card slot is bad, really bad, why have that nice screen when you basically dont have even the space to load movies on it?
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I can't comprehend why Google is being so stupid with their Nexus lineup, especially tablets. I would absolutely love to use one of these on vacations/business trips with an HDMI cable to take my media with me and still watch them on a TV. I want to fill this thing up with tv shows and movies (and even music if possible) but it seems like they don't give a crap. Not including a microsd card is a freaking deal breaker every damn time.
Not to change the subject, but if we do get multiple Nexus phones from the big manufacturers later this year.. and not a single one of them has a microsd card.. I'm going to pull my hair out and scream. haha
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I disagree. Tegra 3 and nvidia are way ahead it terms of developer support. That's why there are so many tegra 3 titles. And at the $200 price point this makes the kindle fire look, well, horrible. I am very pleased with the original specs. Yes krait may have been better but nvidia goes out of its way to lower price points and gets it soc in as many devices as possible. If you want something that has all the greatest hardware then u have to put out the $$$. At $200 I know the android community will flock to it and I hope consumers will to. All in all, I will get one and I hope the 7inch factor will be as useful as I think.
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exactly. this is a great tablet at $200. i'm definitely buying one.
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only 8gb without a sd card slot is bad, really bad, why have that nice screen when you basically dont have even the space to load movies on it?
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probably just trying to get the price to produce down. that and with everything on the cloud maybe they dont think it's needed.
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I can't comprehend why Google is being so stupid with their Nexus lineup, especially tablets. I would absolutely love to use one of these on vacations/business trips with an HDMI cable to take my media with me and still watch them on a TV. I want to fill this thing up with tv shows and movies (and even music if possible) but it seems like they don't give a crap. Not including a microsd card is a freaking deal breaker every damn time.
Not to change the subject, but if we do get multiple Nexus phones from the big manufacturers later this year.. and not a single one of them has a microsd card.. I'm going to pull my hair out and scream. haha
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well then this probably isnt the tab for you. i dont think thats what they are going for. as far as the nexus devices go isnt like each major manufacturer making one? so it'll kind be up to them to include an sd card slot or not unless google requires them to exclude it.
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well then this probably isnt the tab for you. i dont think thats what they are going for. as far as the nexus devices go isnt like each major manufacturer making one? so it'll kind be up to them to include an sd card slot or not unless google requires them to exclude it.
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That's what I am afraid of. They've skimped on the last two Nexus phones. The least they could do is offer 32gb standard. The GSM Galaxy Nexus has 16gb while the CDMA versions both have 32gb.
I would prefer to go Nexus with my next phone and tablet, but Google's got to get their head out of their ass first. It's way too early to rely on the cloud for all of your media needs - especially on a tablet that is wifi only. It's asinine.
Do they have a microSD slot?
If they do, I don't see what the problem with only 8GB is. They did that so you could have a nice tablet with good specs at the price of $200. If you want more storage, just pay the $50 for a 64GB micro sd card. A 64GB variant of the tablet would probably cost $300 anyway so you'd be getting a better deal than if it was already 64GB.
As for relying on cloud storage, I hate how we're being forced to do that. I ****ing hate cloud storage since streaming with sprint's 3G is slow as hell and it wouldn't be adequate for a tablet. Cloud storage should only become a norm when we have mobile satellite internet or some sort of internet that's fast and everywhere.
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I disagree. Tegra 3 and nvidia are way ahead it terms of developer support. That's why there are so many tegra 3 titles.[...]
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I disagree. Tegra 3 and nvidia are way behind it terms of developer support. That's why there are so few ics tegra 2 roms and all of them suck. Pumping funds in game developers to make titles exclusive is not what I would call dev support. But withholding drivers and disclosing specs is exactly what I would call neglect the devs.
The guys over at Linux aren't very fond of Nvidia. Linus Trovalds (creator of Linux) says "NVIDIA has been the single worst company we've ever dealt with!" and gives a big middle finger to the company on camera.
Basically, Nvidia is making tons of money off of multiple open source linux platforms without giving anything back to the open source community.
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Do they have a microSD slot?
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as from reports, it doesnt - that's the problem.
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The guys over at Linux aren't very fond of Nvidia. Linus Trovalds (creator of Linux) says "NVIDIA has been the single worst company we've ever dealt with!" and gives a big middle finger to the company on camera.
Basically, Nvidia is making tons of money off of multiple open source linux platforms without giving anything back to the open source community.
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the same goes for most mobile gpu, bar mali 400.
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Do they have a microSD slot?
If they do, I don't see what the problem with only 8GB is. They did that so you could have a nice tablet with good specs at the price of $200. If you want more storage, just pay the $50 for a 64GB micro sd card. A 64GB variant of the tablet would probably cost $300 anyway so you'd be getting a better deal than if it was already 64GB.
As for relying on cloud storage, I hate how we're being forced to do that. I ****ing hate cloud storage since streaming with sprint's 3G is slow as hell and it wouldn't be adequate for a tablet. Cloud storage should only become a norm when we have mobile satellite internet or some sort of internet that's fast and everywhere.
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from the rumors i've seen it will be wifi only. idk though.
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Do they have a microSD slot?
If they do, I don't see what the problem with only 8GB is. They did that so you could have a nice tablet with good specs at the price of $200. If you want more storage, just pay the $50 for a 64GB micro sd card. A 64GB variant of the tablet would probably cost $300 anyway so you'd be getting a better deal than if it was already 64GB.
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I know its already been replied to, but I wanted to reiterate this. I already did buy the 64GB card and I LOVE it. I can store as much crap as I want. I've watched an entire season of Archer on planes to/from Denver and in a hotel there while on business. I basically want to be able to load a tablet up and not have to worry about running out of new stuff to watch or listen to. I was able to do that with my old Nook Color that ran CM7 before I sold it on ebay. To not be able to do something so simple on the pure Google tablet (which will run circles around any Nook or Kindle) is just not right. Hopefully the leaked information is incomplete or inaccurate and it does have a microsd slot.
If they botch this then I will probably look to get an Asus tablet since it only took them about a month to bump the Transformer Prime up to ICS and the OG Transformer wasn't very far along after that. Google better do something amazing tomorrow if they want my $ -- and trust me I've been dying to give it to them for a while now. haha
So, what about USB otg support? Maybe that will solve storage problems.
Anyone got information bout that?
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So, what about USB otg support? Maybe that will solve storage problems.
Anyone got information bout that?
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Every ics kernel supports otg...
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OK so I got around to thinking about this "problem" of not having microsd slots on new devices, and I was wondering if anyone out there makes an accessory that attaches to the charger and has a card reader on it. Basically an external card reader. It wouldn't be the fastest for transferring files I'm sure, but it's better than giving up all the microsd cards my family has acquired.
I did some Googling and found this thing on Amazon -- does anyone know if it does what I described above? I can't tell if its meant for use with actual phones/tablets or just the computer.
Or if anyone knows of a product that does exist and can provide a link (or even a name) that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!
https://www.google.com/nexus/#/7
lack of micro sd really sucks since paying $50 for 8GB of extra space could get me a 64GB microsd...
I agree - plus a regular SD-slot would make it really useful for photographers and general data upload to the cloud. Oh well, I ponied up for the 16GB version anyway (actually two of them).
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lack of micro sd really sucks since paying $50 for 8GB of extra space could get me a 64GB microsd...
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https://www.google.com/nexus/#/7
lack of micro sd really sucks since paying $50 for 8GB of extra space could get me a 64GB microsd...
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I'd party that extra 50 just to make it easier to load up apps and to have the extra storage for the so many things Android that still won't work properly with a SDHC card. Then still spend that $50 for a 64 GB SDXC card. But without it I doubt I'd buy either version of the tablet.
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I thinking of using a micro usb to flash stick adapter to put my media content on for trips, the 16gb internal memory should hopefully be sufficient for a few apps and large games.
16GB is sufficient but barely
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Google must have decided that cloud storage and streaming is the future or......., they are encouraging people to root there phones and use Wifi Tether:laugh:
8 & 16 would be great if it = exactly the amount of user accessable space available.
In reality we have 5.8xGB & 12.8xGB est storage.
This really hurts the gaming & app installs big-time. Music & Photos should be ok from the Cloud.
Wow....literally just was about to hit "Complete your purchase" when I actually started to do more research on it....
$230 (after tax S&H...) for an 8GB tablet w/ no MicroSDHC or MicroSDXC?? Definitely going to have to sleep on this one first.
But, my god, that thing is made by Asus, Nvidia Quad-Core, 4.1 Android Jelly Bean!
$230 is not bad....Somebody convince me to buy it!!
EDIT: But where oh where will I put my many episodes of Star Trek? MacGyver? Stargate SG-1? I can't access that content when I have no internet available at work....
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Wow....literally just was about to hit "Complete your purchase" when I actually started to do more research on it....
$230 (after tax S&H...) for an 8GB tablet w/ no MicroSDHC or MicroSDXC?? Definitely going to have to sleep on this one first.
But, my god, that thing is made by Asus, Nvidia Quad-Core, 4.1 Android Jelly Bean!
$230 is not bad....Somebody convince me to buy it!!
EDIT: But where oh where will I put my many episodes of Star Trek? MacGyver? Stargate SG-1? I can't access that content when I have no internet available at work....
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Its a mental challenge really:
Just think, $230 total is just $20 shy of the 16GB at $250 but that in reality + shipping could be $280.
No sd card slot has prevented me from owning a nexus device.... That is a deal breaker for me! Once they get that, I'm onboard
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danmanx said:
Wow....literally just was about to hit "Complete your purchase" when I actually started to do more research on it....
$230 (after tax S&H...) for an 8GB tablet w/ no MicroSDHC or MicroSDXC?? Definitely going to have to sleep on this one first.
But, my god, that thing is made by Asus, Nvidia Quad-Core, 4.1 Android Jelly Bean!
$230 is not bad....Somebody convince me to buy it!!
EDIT: But where oh where will I put my many episodes of Star Trek? MacGyver? Stargate SG-1? I can't access that content when I have no internet available at work....
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amazon with their private marketplace and semi-forked os is damaging google sales.
this tablet its intended as a replacement for the kindle fire - if you were intrested in buying a kindle fire this is better in any possible way and cost the same.
if you wanted to buy a more generic tablet, this is expressly built so the other units remain actractive even if they cost more as google dont want to cannibalize its partners sales.
basically its a "**** you, amazon" gift from google.
808souljah said:
No sd card slot has prevented me from owning a nexus device.... That is a deal breaker for me! Once they get that, I'm onboard
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Hear hear , I say, class 10 32gb Samsung micro sdhc is safe if I drop my phone in a toilet, if It gets to close to a high power magnet, its er....... I can't remember but the packaging made it out to be pretty much indestructible, and memory cards break on me all the time, all types and prices , and I gotta say its been awesome never a problem, so no micro sd, is a real let down, and I think I'm gonna swing towards the s3 and keep the EVO, as the missus is happy with her iPhone
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I agree - plus a regular SD-slot would make it really useful for photographers and general data upload to the cloud. Oh well, I ponied up for the 16GB version anyway (actually two of them).
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... Useful for photographers... It only has one camera, FFC 1.2 megapixels... ?
I'm probably going to get one regardless of lack of SD since my Nook Color is really starting to show its age.
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I'm definitely going to purchase one of these used off of craigslist for like $100 when the price drops. I definitely don't need a tablet, but having one is nice too .
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Pre ordered mine today from gamestop, trading in old crappy android tablet plus load of games and accessories will knock the pricing down a bit.
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Pre ordered mine today from gamestop, trading in old crappy android tablet plus load of games and accessories will knock the pricing down a bit.
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Seriously? I might just go trade in the full worth of it with all the junk I have lying around.
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Seriously? I might just go trade in the full worth of it with all the junk I have lying around.
http://goo.gl/xvvkL -- Take a look
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Yes seriously, they started carrying higher end android tablet due to being considered gaming devices since the whole tegra 3 processors, so I was happy to hear they'd be selling these as well.
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I think I might pick up a Toshiba excite 10..... full sized SD card slot means practically endless storage! specs look good too!
my friends tft300 with the dock is pretty sweet too...
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When will these manufactures learn that expandable memory is a must? We don't always have access to WiFi to use the cloud. This greatly limits when and where we can use their products. Why do they seem hell bent on pushing the cloud on us. Yes its nice to have online storage but when your not near WiFi it makes it useless.
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When will these manufactures learn that expandable memory is a must? We don't always have access to WiFi to use the cloud. This greatly limits when and where we can use their products. Why do they seem hell bent on pushing the cloud on us. Yes its nice to have online storage but when your not near WiFi it makes it useless.
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another thing is some apps and games take up alot of space... i was gonna download modern combat 3 on my touchpad, and it says you need over a GB of free space! eek!!! i didint even bother, because when I downloaded backstab, I had to delete all kinds of stuff