First, let me say that as a long-time iPhone user, I was surprised by how much I like Android and my SGS II. I still like a lot of things about the iPhone, but I don't see myself going back anytime soon. With that in mind, I am seriously considering swapping for the Nitro when it gets released. I'm not sure dev support will be as good as it is for the i777, and I think those devs are awesome, but the Nitro looks like a great device. Thoughts?
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Assuming that it is the same device as the lg optimus lte released in Korea and Canada, there is a huge problem in that the phone is actually a 1.2ghz apq8060 processor over clocked to 1.5ghz which causes large battery drain and provides a measly 3 hours of talk time, even on an 1830mah beast of a battery. So I'd pass....
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Assuming that it is the same device as the lg optimus lte released in Korea and Canada, there is a huge problem in that the phone is actually a 1.2ghz apq8060 processor over clocked to 1.5ghz which causes large battery drain and provides a measly 3 hours of talk time, even on an 1830mah beast of a battery. So I'd pass....
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It's said to run the Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8260 processor and not the apq8060 processor. So 1.5GHz is a normal frequency for it.
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It's said to run the Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8260 processor and not the apq8060 processor. So 1.5GHz is a normal frequency for it.
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Out of curiousity, where is that said? From reports I had read, the LG Optimus LTE is the phone that will be sold as the Nitro on AT&T, and according to LG's website, the Optimus LTE runs the APQ8060. ChipsetQualcomm; MDM9200/APQ8060 (1.5 Ghz)
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/mobile-phones/all-phones/LG-P930.jsp
If what you're saying is true, then it means the Nitro will be an upgraded version compared to the ones released in South Korea (LG's home base) and Canada.
GSMArena and others are listing the Scorpion (MSM8260) as the included Chooser.
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Out of curiousity, where is that said? From reports I had read, the LG Optimus LTE is the phone that will be sold as the Nitro on AT&T, and according to LG's website, the Optimus LTE runs the APQ8060. ChipsetQualcomm; MDM9200/APQ8060 (1.5 Ghz)
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/mobile-phones/all-phones/LG-P930.jsp
If what you're saying is true, then it means the Nitro will be an upgraded version compared to the ones released in South Korea (LG's home base) and Canada.
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Here: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3202&c=lg_p930_optimus_lte__nitro_hd (the OS version is incorrect though ).
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GSMArena and others are listing the Scorpion (MSM8260) as the included Chooser.
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GSM Arena shows the Nitro here: http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nitro_hd-4329.php
And says: "For AT&T. Also known as LG P930." On LG's own site, as I linked in the previous post, LG states the p930 comes with the apq8060.
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Here: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3202&c=lg_p930_optimus_lte__nitro_hd (the OS version is incorrect though ).
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The link is for a phone titled as "LG P930 Optimus LTE / Nitro HD Specs" and LG's own website says the P930 comes with the apq8060 processor. I wish that weren't the case because I really wanted to buy this phone...but unless LG is lying to us...dunno what to tell ya.
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The link is for a phone titled as "LG P930 Optimus LTE / Nitro HD Specs" and LG's own website says the P930 comes with the apq8060 processor. I wish that weren't the case because I really wanted to buy this phone...but unless LG is lying to us...dunno what to tell ya.
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Well, LG should know more about there own device so most likely their info is correct.
Yes, I have seen both chipsets listed at various places, and Bell in Canada does not list the specific chipset. I wouldn't even consider the APQ8060.
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Assuming that it is the same device as the lg optimus lte released in Korea and Canada, there is a huge problem in that the phone is actually a 1.2ghz apq8060 processor over clocked to 1.5ghz which causes large battery drain and provides a measly 3 hours of talk time, even on an 1830mah beast of a battery. So I'd pass....
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I ran the spec sheet on the processor....this is what it wrote:
Key enhancements over previous Snapdragon™ chipsets include:
• Unrivaled system performance with new dual-core Scorpion CPU architecture offering industry first speeds up to
1.5GHz per core.
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Would that mean it is overclocked to 1.5GHZ? or does it mean that the 1.2's are underclocked, or different samples?
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Also digging in a little deeper, the same chip performs pretty decent in the Tmobile version of the Galaxy s2?
I could live with that kind of performance, although it would be watered down because of that badass screen. That screen, Apple's A6, ICS, and a nice industrial design chassis with Gorilla Glass would be a keeper.
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I ran the spec sheet on the processor....this is what it wrote:
Would that mean it is overclocked to 1.5GHZ? or does it mean that the 1.2's are underclocked, or different samples?
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Also digging in a little deeper, the same chip performs pretty decent in the Tmobile version of the Galaxy s2?
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Yes. Well...no. Uhmmm after some research, it gets even more confusing for me. This is the same CPU they used in the HP Touchpad. For anyone who's familiar with the HP Touchpad, it was clocked at 1.2ghz. Though, technically it was underclocked as the processor can run 1.5ghz just fine. In fact, I OC'd my touchpad to just over 1.9ghz. The issue isn't the performance of the chip at 1.5ghz. It's the battery drain. This is the only reason I can think of that would explain why the phone has a 3 hour talk time, compared to 5 hours on the Galaxy S2 HD LTE which is also 720p, running dual core qualcomm 1.5ghz chip (msm8660 I believe), and LTE. Unless someone has another theory? p.s. I got the initial 1.2ghz stock clock from wikipedia.
I have no doubt this phone will perform well. But 3 hours talk time? How many hours for video or web browsing? I'm used to streaming nearly 10 hours of video on my iPad 2 or browsing on my iPhone 4 for a good 6-7 hours. Cutting it down to 3 hours is like going back to the iPhone 3g days.
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Yes. It means it would be running at 1.5ghz, even though the chip is rated for 1.2ghz. For anyone who's familiar with the HP Touchpads, I believe this is the same CPU. Now, just as before, the chip is listed at 1.2ghz. But can run 1.5ghz fine. In fact, I OC'd my touchpad to just over 1.9ghz. The issue isn't the performance of the chip at 1.5ghz. It's the battery drain. This is the only reason I can think of that would explain why the phone has a 3 hour talk time, compared to 5 hours on the Galaxy S2 HD LTE which is also 720p, running dual core qualcomm 1.5ghz chip, and LTE.
I have no doubt this phone will perform well. But 3 hours talk time? How many hours for video or web browsing? I'm used to streaming nearly 10 hours of video on my iPad 2 or browsing on my iPhone 4 for a good 6-7 hours. Cutting it down to 3 hours is like going back to the iPhone 3g days.
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Lg nitro sucks, don't waste your time, us sg2 owners are lucky to own the fastest phone out there. This pos galaxy nexus can't even beat it. If you put ics (Ice cream sandwich) on gs2, there you have a monster...
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Lg nitro sucks, don't waste your time, us sg2 owners are lucky to own the fastest phone out there. This pos galaxy nexus can't even beat it. If you put ics (Ice cream sandwich) on gs2, there you have a monster...
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You are correct. Sort of. In that there is a huge performance gain to be had through ICS. If I had an SG2, I wouldn't "upgrade" to a galaxy nexus. But...if I had to pick one as my first phone, the nexus would probably get first choice because it does have the option of taking back to its stock 1.5ghz clock. But wait for the SG3. That phone will be running samsung's very own exynos quad-core processor and a new version of mali.
I'm back at work tomorrow and (hopefully) get some hands on time with the optimus lte, so I'll see what I think about it then.
I would definitely appreciate that kind of input. The Vivid and Skyrocket just didn't do it for me, and the chances of getting the S2 HD LTE on AT&T are slim and none .
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LG Mobile may introduce LG Nitro HD Smartphone on December 1 event. According to Mirolta website, LG Mobile has organised a special launch event in New York on December 1, the invitations in this regard has been sent out. In this invitation LG has not revealed any details of the event, stating only “All will be revealed on December 1, 2011. Join us at an exclusive launch event bought to you by LG Mobile.”.........
To catch the Tech Specs of Nitro see http://mirolta.com/2011/11/23/lg-mobile-may-introduce-lg-nitro-hd-smartphone-on-december-1-event/
Hemlocke said:
I would definitely appreciate that kind of input. The Vivid and Skyrocket just didn't do it for me, and the chances of getting the S2 HD LTE on AT&T are slim and none .
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how do you know that s2 Hd lte on at&t wont happend? asking only because i am waiting for it to release here on at&t too
I don't, but the SGSIII and Nexus Prime should be lurking around the corner (Early 2012), so no reason to bring it then.
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i would think otherwise, i think if samsung want to take customer on christmas other mobile company other than verizon they have to release the hd version, Since verizon already got nexus.
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I would definitely appreciate that kind of input. The Vivid and Skyrocket just didn't do it for me, and the chances of getting the S2 HD LTE on AT&T are slim and none .
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Hey. So I did some tests. It...doesn't do so well. Well, battery life is tragic. Went from 52% to 18% in about an hour and fifteen minutes of random usage. Non-phone. Maybe 5 minutes of gaming.
As far as benchmarks, it got 2800ms on sun spider while the raider got 4300ms.
For quadrant, it got 2500, the galaxy s2 4g got 2300, and the raider got 1800.
All seems good....until you compare it to the benchmarks coming out of the galaxy nexus. How much of those are software based? We'll have to wait and see.
Also...gaming. Forget about it. 720p. The gpu can't even properly run the preloaded asphalt 6 game. Unless it's a 2d game like angry birds, don't even think about it. I'm running a video battery test. Streaming Netflix. Super troopers. Over hspa+ 21mbps. At 70% battery life now. Auto-brightness. Will see what the battery percent is in an hour.
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13% battery drained after 16 minutes of hspa Netflix movie streaming. Just pure garbage.....
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I was wrong on the previous assessment. It's even worse. It's going at a steady rate of 1% per minute if video streaming. Suffice to say....I'm canceling my order for thus phone and will just pick up the galaxy nexus.
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For ****s sake....after 1 hour of Netflix viewing, the battery went down from 70% to 8%. Do NOT buy this phone. You've been warned. Cheers.
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I am pretty tempted to restock mine and get the skyrocket. It sports a 1.5ghz processor and 4g LTE. I need to constantly check emails and upload documents, so LTE would be super helpful. Anyone else tempted?
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I am very angry with this!!! Actually OF COURSE I will restock!!
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IMO, 4G is not worth the upgrade (especially since I dont have it in my area anyway) and the 1.5dual core is only a fractional upgrade from our 1.2dual core. just my opinion but its not worth the upgrade. AT&T only has 4G in like 6 areas around the country. Unless you are one of them, why upgrade?
I'm still in the return period for my phone, I'm tempted to turn it in and get it, but I'm worried about battery life
Not even the slightest!
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The Snapdragon is proven to do poorly compared to the Exynos clock-for-clock. So it has to get clocked higher to achieve similar performance. As a result - worse battery life and more heat for no performance benefit.
Similarly - LTE means awful battery life and a fat overweight phone, just ask any Verizon user.
Last but not least - check out the T989 development forums, and realize that you have the exact same hardware.
As tempted as I was to get the Galaxy Nexus ... 0%
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The Snapdragon is proven to do poorly compared to the Exynos clock-for-clock. So it has to get clocked higher to achieve similar performance. As a result - worse battery life and more heat for no performance benefit.
Similarly - LTE means awful battery life and a fat overweight phone, just ask any Verizon user.
Last but not least - check out the T989 development forums, and realize that you have the exact same hardware.
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The processor in the Skyrocket is the new 1.5ghz Exynos I believe.
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The Snapdragon is proven to do poorly compared to the Exynos clock-for-clock. So it has to get clocked higher to achieve similar performance. As a result - worse battery life and more heat for no performance benefit.
Similarly - LTE means awful battery life and a fat overweight phone, just ask any Verizon user.
Last but not least - check out the T989 development forums, and realize that you have the exact same hardware.
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They didn't say it was the snapdragon. Bulk doesn't really bother me either, i owned an iphone 3gs for 2 years.
EDIT: Yup it's the Exynos 1.5ghz, which is 30% more efficient and has 50% better 3d performance and overall performance.
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The processor in the Skyrocket is the new 1.5ghz Exynos I believe.
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Source?
And as to the topic question, no, I'm not tempted. I was before I realized that nothing of this new device will really benefit me for the proposed cost difference.
800x480 on a 4.5" screen....ehhhhh
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Source?
And as to the topic question, no, I'm not tempted. I was before I realized that nothing of this new device will really benefit me for the proposed cost difference.
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Samsung already announced the Exynos 1.5ghz a while ago, hinting at a SGS2 release
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...z-exynos-4212-dual-core-mobile-chip-20110929/
Still rumors, but:
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/att-samsung-galaxy-s2-skyrocket-specs-features-price.html
I doubt AT&T would go with the snapdragon, then no one would upgrade
No. I'm not interested.
Same screen resolution and technology in a slightly larger screen - if anything it won't look as good.
Qualcomm processor - good processor but not on the same par as Samsung exynos
LTE radio, but I'm no where near LTE market. I may go through one more phone upgrade before LTE its deployed in a wide enough range to make it worth while. Plus another year or two will help them improve battery life on the LTE Phones.
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I doubt AT&T would go with the snapdragon, then no one would upgrade
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That assumes that 95% of the public would know the difference.
All the public sees is 1.5 > 1.2 and 4.5 > 4.3. Just like 4G > 3G. Most people don't know the difference, and wouldnt notice the difference in use.
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No. I'm not interested.
Same screen resolution and technology in a slightly larger screen - if anything it won't look as good.
Qualcomm processor - good processor but not on the same par as Samsung exynos
LTE radio, but I'm no where near LTE market. I may go through one more phone upgrade before LTE its deployed in a wide enough range to make it worth while. Plus another year or two will help them improve battery life on the LTE Phones.
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AGAIN....
Samsung already announced the Exynos 1.5ghz a while ago, hinting at a SGS2 release
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...z-exynos-4212-dual-core-mobile-chip-20110929/
Still rumors, but:
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/att-samsung-galaxy-s2-skyrocket-specs-features-price.html
I doubt AT&T would go with the snapdragon, then no one would upgrade
Note only got a 1.4 GHz version bump - why would the Skyrocket get a 1.5 GHz Exynos if the Note doesn't even get it?
In addition, every Samsung device with an "unusual" radio has had a Snapdragon or OMAP.
Right now there isn't definitive confirmation, but all of the evidence says it's the same CPU as the T989:
http://androidapproved.com/item/att...i-skyrocket-and-htc-vivid-as-their-first-lte/
If it were Exynos, Samsung would be playing it up.
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AGAIN....
Samsung already announced the Exynos 1.5ghz a while ago, hinting at a SGS2 release
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...z-exynos-4212-dual-core-mobile-chip-20110929/
Still rumors, but:
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/att-samsung-galaxy-s2-skyrocket-specs-features-price.html
I doubt AT&T would go with the snapdragon, then no one would upgrade
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I know the 1.5 exynos processor has been announced and it has been heavily implied that chip will be the one in the galaxy note when it comes out.
Could it be in the skyrocket, sure, but I doubt it. Every other sgs2 with 1.5 processor has been a Qualcomm.
And it has been also said this phone will have Qualcomm's LTE combo radio - if it does have that radio, then it will have the Qualcomm processor as well.
although this is all speculation at this point, we won't know for sure until next week. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to be the first phone with the exynos 1.5. I expect that will be the galaxy note, or something like the galaxy note.
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More likely that it's the Qualcomm at this point since Exynos is just a rumor and an assumption based on clock speed. Galaxy S II LTE models all have the Qualcomm chips in them, including the Rogers Galaxy LTE which is pretty much a Canadian AT&T since they get the same phones.
I already returned sgs2 just now... back to atrix for 6 days... will get HTC vivid instead...
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I'm tempted but not if it's using the snapdragon
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I hate to bring this up here when the Rezound isn't even released yet but what's the deal with this phone?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...rs/ShsH+(xda-developers)&utm_content=FaceBook
And 1st or 2nd quarter of 2012? Might be worth waiting for if it comes to Verizon.
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There will always be something better just around the corner...
And quad core won't make a big difference. There is nothing to do with that much power that android allows. Also, it is HSPA so that means Tmobile or ATT
I doubt it's real Tegra sucks IMO incredibly slow compared to other dual cores and HTC Sticks with qualcomm
Ok, Rezound it is.
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Stupid htc will probably give it a 1600 battery.
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Honestly the specs on this do look impressive though, Dual core 1.5 Ghz processor, a TRUE HD display if you look at resolution it will be highest even compared to the Moto RAZR and Samsung Nexus. Also has that whole Pure Beats audio thing going for it, depending on how much that matters.
With some rooting this could technically be the top for hardware in VZW's new 4G line up
Ehh, this phone is kinda ugly anyways, even if the quad-core mattered, and if it was on Verizon, I wouldn't wait for it. I don't like that big of a screen either, it's ridiculous. Vigor is where it's at
Yup. ReZound FTW.
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Stupid htc will probably give it a 1600 battery.
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I think they said it will be a 1650 battery.
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Honestly the specs on this do look impressive though, Dual core 1.5 Ghz processor, a TRUE HD display if you look at resolution it will be highest even compared to the Moto RAZR and Samsung Nexus. Also has that whole Pure Beats audio thing going for it, depending on how much that matters.
With some rooting this could technically be the top for hardware in VZW's new 4G line up
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its the same processor on the evo 3d just clocked higher out of the box
so we should be able go get 1.9ghz with custom kernels
Another Leaked phone
HTC Ville
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7...id-smartphone/
Supposedly gonna be the first with the Snapdragon S4 processor, 1.5GHz, and Android 4.0 + Sense 4.0, and 4.3 inch screen, with qHD, and super amoled type screen.
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HTC Ville
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7...id-smartphone/
Supposedly gonna be the first with the Snapdragon S4 processor, 1.5GHz, and Android 4.0 + Sense 4.0, and 4.3 inch screen, with qHD, and super amoled type screen.
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The link isn't working. "404 Page Not Found"
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The link isn't working. "404 Page Not Found"
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Weird. Well, you can google it, "HTC Ville", I found it by accident somewhere, but after I googled it, I saw a ton of articles on it already
Edit: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...umored-as-first-sense-4.0-android-smartphone/ I went back to that website, and recopied it, maybe it'll work now
if you're intrigued by the whole 'quad-core' thing, don't. it's going to be quite some time before phones will even take real advantage of that.
heck, even then, for instance my netbook has an i7 cpu in it and at any given time it's only using between 5 - 10% of the cpu. that and playing a game it'll average 30 - 40%. so really an i7 is unecessary.
also, if you're into speed... in no time we'll be able to overclock the re:Zound(not that we need to). Hell, my Thunderbolt's 1 jigga hertz cpu is overclocked to 1.9
but again, there will be no point in overclocking for a loooong time.
I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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id agree except ford yhe battery. minimum of 5000mAh please.
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And quad core won't make a big difference. There is nothing to do with that much power that android allows. Also, it is HSPA so that means Tmobile or ATT
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the big news about the new quad-core phones is not only performance, but the capacity to save 30/40% of battery life more, compare to dual cores:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile...Performance_Benchmarks_of_Tegra_3_Kal_El.html
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I think the HTC Edge is their sleekest and classiest phone design to date! Screw quad-core, give me it right now with current specs! Throw in a good low-power dual-core OMAP processor at 1Ghz, steal the camera unit off of Samsung's flagship, slap an 1800mah battery in there and I'll be happy!
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Ditto, give me a 720p screen though.
Just in case some of you missed it over at android central.
Just a quick demo of the S4 Krait vs the Tegra 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6xb8t3FoFI&feature=player_embedded
Source:By Chris Parsons
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-one-x-benchmarks-pit-qualcomm-snapdragon-s4-against-nvidia-tegra-3
the Tegra 3 should probably shine when a Tegra 3 optimized app is used for comparison. not sure if you need special software framework to take advantage of the quad core +1
S4 build off the a15 takes the cake. Qualcomm did a great job with it.
some benchmarks indicate the tegra is more powerful and some indicate that the snapdragon is more powerful however it is ussually hinted that the snapdragon will provide similar performance but save battery because of its asynchronous dual cores. really it is all about software and drivers and nvidia is renowned for their developments in both. nvidia will get the game first, run them smoothly and display well optimized graphics. it doesn`t matter how pwerful the hardware is if the software can`t take advantage of it. this is clearly indicated in the last generation snapdragons which had terrible gpu issues due to poor gpu drivers. keep in mind however that many apps have not been optimised for quad core and may not run at their best.
Yes this is pretty well known here...each SoC has its own advantage over the other....specifically the Tegra3 should sin out GPU wise, while the S4 wins out in some other categories...
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Yes this is pretty well known here...each SoC has its own advantage over the other....specifically the Tegra3 should sin out GPU wise, while the S4 wins out in some other categories...
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Did you not see the video? S4 spanked tegra3 in the graphics benchmark
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Why was his tegra3 phone so much smaller? I thought they were both the same size just different soc?
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Why was his tegra3 phone so much smaller? I thought they were both the same size just different soc?
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They are the same size one phone was on display platform and the other was laying flat..... Basically both phones in different angles.
pretty intresting test breakup, tegra 3 looks to have cpu cores with a lot more omph but its extremely memory-starved, even if nominally it should have twice the mhz for memory than s4 (from the datasheet, dunno what kind of memory HTC actually shipped in that phone)
as for graphics its a bit funny that the S4 gpu core is a development of one ati/amd project(*), even here we have ati/amd VS nvidia showoff...
(*) selling their mobile division for pocket change just when mobile chips were starting to become the biggest cpu business in the world was really the stupidiest thing even done by amd...
Anyone else have the feeling S4 gonna spank the new G3 Exynos chip too ?
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Anyone else have the feeling S4 gonna spank the new G3 Exynos chip too ?
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Dont know about spank, but it will be on par with everything except for graphics. I would expect the exynos to be better because of the GPU.
Is it just me or does the speed of a processor matter anymore?
Seriously. I have tried murdering my 3D with tons of roms, multiple resource hungry apps, graphics intense games, fancy live wall papers, and STILL. She barely breaks a sweat.
I do understand bragging rights with fellow gadget heads but really as long as I can play my occasional game, listen to music, watch porn, and do my social thing, I'm happy as can be. Battery life is my bragging game now.
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Is it just me or does the speed of a processor matter anymore?
Seriously. I have tried murdering my 3D with tons of roms, multiple resource hungry apps, graphics intense games, fancy live wall papers, and STILL. She barely breaks a sweat.
I do understand bragging rights with fellow gadget heads but really as long as I can play my occasional game, listen to music, watch porn, and do my social thing, I'm happy as can be. Battery life is my bragging game now.
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I don't know about you, but I use the MEAN ROM and while it is the best ROM hands down, I still don't get the performance I would expect from a dual core phone. It is the best performer among other ROMS, but still not what I would expect in this day and age. When I am connected to WIFI, I would expect that my web pages (on device), load as fast as on my PC... or at least almost as fast. This has never been the case with any ROM or any phone. Once that happens, I will be close to happy.
I am guessing that the biggest limiter these days is the speed of internal memory? Does anyone know how that compares to PC memory?
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I don't know about you, but I use the MEAN ROM and while it is the best ROM hands down, I still don't get the performance I would expect from a dual core phone. It is the best performer among other ROMS, but still not what I would expect in this day and age. When I am connected to WIFI, I would expect that my web pages (on device), load as fast as on my PC... or at least almost as fast. This has never been the case with any ROM or any phone. Once that happens, I will be close to happy.
I am guessing that the biggest limiter these days is the speed of internal memory? Does anyone know how that compares to PC memory?
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That makes sense. But is it the gpu that makes it slower than a pc? I want faster page loading too.
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my evo 3d got 3500 in quadrant, nearly 2x of gtab at 810 megahertz. sk rom is crazy. However, I think the tegra 3 is better because companion core and doesn't afraid of anything.
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my evo 3d got 3500 in quadrant, nearly 2x of gtab at 810 megahertz. sk rom is crazy. However, I think the tegra 3 is better because companion core and doesn't afraid of anything.
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Companion core doesn't do anything sir, the 28 nm process on the s4 kills the tegra 3 in battery, even with 4glte on
Source: anandtech htc one x for att review
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I'm thinking I'm waiting for the s4 quad cores to come out. That will be epic
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Companion core doesn't do anything sir, the 28 nm process on the s4 kills the tegra 3 in battery, even with 4glte on
Source: anandtech htc one x for att review
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Tegra is still better because you have the privilege of having a tablet with 4 cores. If you say "oh I got a tablet with 2 ARM cortex 15 cores, nobodys gonna get what you're saying.".
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I'm thinking I'm waiting for the s4 quad cores to come out. That will be epic
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They already have them I believe its a 32 nm it has everything that the s4 has except the LTE
.Elite_The_King. said:
They already have them I believe its a 32 nm it has everything that the s4 has except the LTE
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The 32nm quad core is by Samsung and is the Exynos SoC, not an S4...Currently the only S4 in the Qualcomm roadmap for this year is the APQ8064, and it has no modem so likely a tablet only chip...
Now the rumor of the VZ HTC phone for the holidays this year states they will have a quadcore S4 in it, which is odd given the roadmap leaks as the earliest MSM(these are the ones with built in modems) variant quad-core was not listed till Q1 of '13...
btw saw you got the credit for the EVOLTE buildprop and bootanimation leak on goodandevo man.
Hello,
I was looking to buy the Samsung Galaxy S3 but i'm confused as to which model should I buy. The international model or the North American model.
I cannot upgrade through my carrier (Bell Mobility in Toronto, ON) and hence either one I buy, I'll have to buy from outside.
Is the processor (dual vs quad) along with the RAM the only difference in these two models? If yes, then which one should I go for? Maybe answer in terms on battery life, ROMS available, etc etc. Would the quad core be faster than the dual core with half the RAM?
I have a regular data plan and I won't be thinking about using LTE for now.
Usage wise, I'd say I'm a moderate user and don't play very heavy games, but maybe, occasionally I might play MC3, GTA III etc. Definitely be multitasking a lot and constant texting/facebooking/checking emails etc.
I'm thinking to get the International version! But if the North American version is better, I would go for that.
Thanks
If you aren't using LTE then international model wins hands down.
Faster CPU
Better GPU
Wolfson WM1811 DAC (may not be in US version.)
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It's not 1ghz and 2ghz but 1gb and 2gb of ram. I'm from Canada and I chose the int one because of dev support, better GPU, future quadcore optimization, I don't care about LTE since I have 2GB of data monthly and 3G+ is enough for me. Also audio as nodstuff said, earlier release and finally 1gb is enough, I'm doing heavy multitasking and I never reached the 1GB of ram, the redraw issue can be fixed by editing a file and I'm sure it will be the same for the US version. So yeah int version is the best for me, now you have to find out which one is the best for YOU.
IMO, LTE is not all it's cracked up to be, if you don't have unlimited data then it's not really worth it. I'm not going to sacrifice faster CPU/GPU for a 2GB cap LTE.
Needless to say I got international version.
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IMO, LTE is not all it's cracked up to be, if you don't have unlimited data then it's not really worth it. I'm not going to sacrifice faster CPU/GPU for a 2GB cap LTE.
Needless to say I got international version.
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+1 I also got the international version and I'm on AT&T
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there already is such thread in the general section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683261
also there is no 2ghz vs 1ghz. there is 1gb ram vs 2 gb ram.
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If you aren't using LTE then international model wins hands down.
Faster CPU
Better GPU
Wolfson WM1811 DAC (may not be in US version.)
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1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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Optimised A-9's built on 32nm Fab. Process with HKMG.
Krait is not more energy efficient, research high k metal gate which is used in the exynos 4412.
As for wolfson DAC, what us your source for that information? Supercurio said that it didn't after he came back from a trip to wolfsons facility in Edinburgh where he went after being invited to share some ideas.
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Xdenwarrior said:
1) Faster CPU? R u blind or something - Krait uses a highly modified A15s (which i believe what everyone wanted before Samsung decided to step back and stay on A9s for a bit more) and to be honest it is indeed faster in real life especially when it comes to opening apps (i had a chance to play with 2 devices).
2) GPU is faster on international thou but doubt u would be able to use even half of its power (i still have ipod touch 1gen and it can handle all games except Infinity Blade as long as OS allows on its weak PowerVR MBXLite)
3) Both have Wolfson DAC
4) NA Galaxy S3 has double RAM. If u are a multitasking freak (or use alot of ram hungry apps) then u would see a performance difference. Its also there to feed S4.
5) Krait is more power effecient than exynos when just using HSPA+
6) You have an option to use LTE (battery life will start draining faster however but highly dependent on your network)
With that said Exynos is indeed more optimized (no surprise) so the experience may be slower but ALWAYS fluid. However, nothing that the xda devs cant fix!!
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Well I'm a multitasking freak and I never reached the 780mb alowed, the ram is managed really well, your argument is invalid.
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Reviewers have already indicated that the NA SIII is indeed faster in regards to cpu and slightly better in battery life. It was also proven that the INT SIII has a significantly better gpu. Nonetheless, both versions are fantastic and have their tradeoffs.
I prefer the international phone. Fast and clean phone, unlimited for $10 with high speed enough for me. Love the battery, last for a long hard day.
Decision Made!!
Thanks for the responses guys!!
I finally got my hands on the International model and been playing with it heavily since today afternoon. They battery was at 54% when I first booted the device. Its been several hours of non-stop usage and the battery life seems to be good. Of course its too early to make any conclusion.
Overall, I'm loving it. Its so smooth!!
So glad I decided to sell my note to get this one. No doubt the note was/still is an excellent device. But I love S3 more!!! <3 :laugh:
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Thanks for the responses guys!!
I finally got my hands on the International model and been playing with it heavily since today afternoon. They battery was at 54% when I first booted the device. Its been several hours of non-stop usage and the battery life seems to be good. Of course its too early to make any conclusion.
Overall, I'm loving it. Its so smooth!!
So glad I decided to sell my note to get this one. No doubt the note was/still is an excellent device. But I love S3 more!!! <3 :laugh:
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Congratz! I have this beast since monday and I'm using it everyday at work (web browsing, skype, steam, games, watching anime) auto brightness, power saving, 3g and sync always on and I get 13h with 6h30 on screen time when I get home with about 15% left! You can leave power saving even when gaming no lag no slow down, this phone is overpowered
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What's the best data settings on AT&T?
I've had a bunch of data issues with the GS3 stalling out, I've changed from Auto Mode to CDMA and GSM, all don't do much.
I am running the standard APN and my current plan is a LTE unlimited plan since I also have an AT&T HTC One X.
Thanks
The North American S3 does NOT have a Wolfson DAC:
Qualcomm's S4 chipset uses Qualcomm's proprietary audio hub, the WCD9310. This chipset is found in the US versions of the One X, One S, and even Samsung's Galaxy S III (only the international Galaxy S III will have a Wolfson DAC, sorry guys).
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
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We already several of these threads...
That said, international version for all of the reasons previously mentioned.
Damn, for a moment I thought the US version was on par. The upgraded DAC would be nice.
What about gorilaglass2 ?!?!
There are a lot of videos and comments, about International version don't have Gorilaglass2, what is proven to be on US version!!!
Honestly if you are not going to us LTE then there should be no discussion about it. The international version is an amazing phone and I got it because I also don't care for LTE. If I did then I would look into the pros and cons for both versions. Since your not using LTE then looking at pros and cons is just invalid because overall international version is more optimized and even the largest multitasking user will reach MAX of 850MB... honestly. Hope it helped.
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Marne Jr said:
There are a lot of videos and comments, about International version don't have Gorilaglass2, what is proven to be on US version!!!
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That is incorrect, ALL variants have gorilla glass 2. Stop talking ****.
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Anyone have any insight between these two phones? They have the same size screen, both quad core.. Mainly what I'm mostly concerned about is media consumption. Which will give better audio performance?
Thx
dreamagainxi said:
Anyone have any insight between these two phones? They have the same size screen, both quad core.. Mainly what I'm mostly concerned about is media consumption. Which will give better audio performance?
Thx
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Don't assume because they are similarly spec'd they will get the same performance from their quad cores...
Unfortunately I don't know anything about the DAC on the LGOG
Snow_fox said:
Don't assume because they are similarly spec'd they will get the same performance from their quad cores...
Unfortunately I don't know anything about the DAC on the LGOG
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This has been said many times the Tegra 3 in the HTC only supports single channel memory, only comes with one gig and it's based on A9 architecture. The LG has two gigs of dual channel memory and based on A15 tech also 20 nm
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Yeah, 28nm transistors on the lgog vs 40nm on the one x plus is a big deal. There are no 20nm chips in production, the closest is 22nm nand flash modules from Intel and Toshiba.
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Yeah, 28nm transistors on the lgog vs 40nm on the one x plus is a big deal. There are no 20nm chips in production, the closest is 22nm nand flash modules from Intel and Toshiba.
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Yeah I was half asleep when I wrote that and had just been reading that story about Samsungs new 20 an 10nm ram chips But still 28nm should be allot more efficient than 40nm and the dual channel ram with double the amount is a huge difference in speed.
Its actually 22 vs 40. Overall the LGOG would seem like the superior phone in terms if gaming/media capability. But honestly your posting in an LG optimus g thread..everyone here pretty much picked this phone out of all the others. .going to be pretty one sided. Comes down to personal preference. Take a chance. Both phones are great and if you are un happy you always have the buyers remorse period.
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Its actually 22 vs 40.
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No, its 28 vs 40. No mobile SoCs are currently 22nm.
Yeah, as a general rule if I say something regarding chip lithography you can take it as truth. I've been an integrated circuit nerd since third grade
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dreamagainxi said:
Anyone have any insight between these two phones? They have the same size screen, both quad core.. Mainly what I'm mostly concerned about is media consumption. Which will give better audio performance?
Thx
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I don't know about best performance, but I plan on picking up the LGOG today, despite the beauty of the One X+, mainly due to the larger storage capacity available through the microSD slot. The One X+ doesn't have one, and I already have a spare 64GB microSD, so that made the decision easy for me.
I picked mine up today. I've never seen a fast stock rom. This thing is nuts. I have one bright pixel so I'm going back to best buy to swap it out in the morning.
I was having this debate with myself just recently, until I unlocked the phone's bootloader with the "projectFreeGee" method and now I'm a happy LG owner again ! I can't wait for the custom ROMs, the One X+ is great right now, but with future Android updates in the upcoming two years , having 2 GB of RAM will become a must. This phone is future prof, plus it looks 10 times more elegant.
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I was having this debate with myself just recently, until I unlocked the phone's bootloader with the "projectFreeGee" method and now I'm a happy LG owner again ! I can't wait for the custom ROMs, the One X+ is great right now, but with future Android updates in the upcoming two years , having 2 GB of RAM will become a must. This phone is future prof, plus it looks 10 times more elegant.
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I was considering the one x+, but the snapdragon pro on the optimus g smokes the Tegra 3. If one x+ was running snapdragon, I would have bought it.
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Battery
Can anyone throw some light on the battery consumption? I mean to compare the two phones, if they were running the exact same ROM.
I understand that the Optimus G CPU may have a better performance than the One X+. But which CPU is better in terms of battery consumption?
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Can anyone throw some light on the battery consumption? I mean to compare the two phones, if they were running the exact same ROM.
I understand that the Optimus G CPU may have a better performance than the One X+. But which CPU is better in terms of battery consumption?
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The snap Dragon is a much faster and more efficient cpu as well, it is like comparing an AMD to an Intel. This is the next level of tech, the next Tegra well probably be built on this architecture. Smaller lighter less heat produced and more energy efficient.
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