So I tried out HDMI today, and I would like to share my experiences and to hear yours.
-huge battery drain, I charged it while playing PES 2012 on my phone, plugged into my TV, and the battery level didn't go up.
-lag. Looks like the phone can barely handle graphics on both 720p and the devices screen itself.
-ONLY landscape mode. Sometimes I would prefer portrait, but that's not possible.
-My TV remote didn't work for controlling the phone. I have deleted the stock gallery (SlowPic) and replaced it by QuickPic, so I don't know if it works within the Cooliris gallery. TV is a Sony KDL-32EX402.
It's a shame SE doesn't bundle the cable in my region, I bought mine (1.8m) for €6,- from an independent seller (new). (+€1,68 shipping)
They do bundle the cable in some regions. I got a little mini-HDMI cable in my box.
I got it when i was buy this phone to my girl.
I got lovely arc without cable.
In croatia.
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I knew that in some regions the cable is bundled, but I thought the Arc has a cable with it in every region.
sdk16420 said:
So I tried out HDMI today, and I would like to share my experiences and to hear yours.
-huge battery drain, I charged it while playing PES 2012 on my phone, plugged into my TV, and the battery level didn't go up.
-lag. Looks like the phone cn barely handle graphics on both 720p and the devices screen itself.
-ONLY landscape mode. Sometimes I would prefer portrait, but that's not possible.
-My TV remote didn't work for controlling the phone.
I tested it on a 1080p >Sony< TV (bought it this summer).
It's a shame SE doesn't bundle the cable, I bought mine (1.8m) for €6,- from an independent seller (new). (+€1,68 shipping)
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with the 1.8M cable it's not a very much drain battery but with 5M it is
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with the 1.8M cable it's not a very much drain battery but with 5M it is
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5m
How bad is the battery drain? In my case it was already pretty bad: while playing PES 2012 and charging the phone using the charger (not just usb), the battery level didn't went up. Normally when I play PES, it's about -20/30% an hour.
play 1.5 hour with drag racing -11% battery drain from 43% to 32% with the 5M cable
Sorry for my english
s3-f4n said:
play 1.5 hour with drag racing -11% battery drain from 43% to 32% with the 5M cable
Sorry for my english
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While charging?
And your English will likely be better than my English
with charger plug,but if i use the 1.8m cable in 1 hour with the charger plug in the phone it is +14%
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with charger plug,but if i use the 1.8m cable in 1 hour with the charger plug in the phone it is +14%
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Okay, thanks for the info. 1,8m is long enough for me
Video-Quality while playback on tv
Guys,
I have another question/problem:
The "small" resolution of the xperia has some limitations on flat-tvs.
On my 40"-Display, the quality of pictures and videos via xperia does not seems to be very good.
Everything seems to have artefacts (pixels?) and I am wondering, if this is the way, the HDMI-Output should be?
I was interested to watch some streaming-events (football) on the tv via the xperia, but with this resolution, the quality is far too bad.
The source is not the problem!
Any idea, how to solve this?
Something like this for Evo 4G?
https://market.android.com/details?...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50ZWFtd2luLmhkbWkiXQ..
When testing it out myself, it seemed that it outputs 720p signal, but the catch is that it upscales the image from 854x480 resolution of the screen as the image on the TV was a direct clone of the one visible on the phone.
Mikk36 said:
When testing it out myself, it seemed that it outputs 720p signal, but the catch is that it upscales the image from 854x480 resolution of the screen as the image on the TV was a direct clone of the one visible on the phone.
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Yes, that´s the point...is there a way to deliver 720p? From my point of view, smartphone-display could be deactivated while connected to HDMI..
I used it on Spacious Rom ... it handles 720p awesomely ... all the stuff in HD plays well ... Watched 10 movies in HD ... awesome clarity ..
Can cook yea phone charging at same time as using hdmi,
Neo with gingerbread:My observations is that playing high def videos, through apps like MX Player, work really well. I got the 1.8 cable and have not thought about battery drain as a problem. What made me frustrated was when I wanted to watch sport streams through flash. The resolution on the tv was just horrible. I noticed that sopcast had released an android app, but I haven't tried it out yet.
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Neo with gingerbread:My observations is that playing high def videos, through apps like MX Player, work really well. I got the 1.8 cable and have not thought about battery drain as a problem. What made me frustrated was when I wanted to watch sport streams through flash. The resolution on the tv was just horrible. I noticed that sopcast had released an android app, but I haven't tried it out yet.
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That is because of streaming & source. I use the cable to connect my PlayBook & it works great.
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That is because of streaming & source. I use the cable to connect my PlayBook & it works great.
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Guess you're right. Still frustrating that the (good ol) pc does a significant better job. I've tried streaming videos from sopcast (pc)->vlc-> android, and it at least the quality was better then through flash, but naturally not the thing you want to set up every time there is a game.
Is there anyone else with this problem?
Wifi shuts off every couple of minutes when using HDMI.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/217976#217976
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/282017#282017
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/279920#279920
I may try to send it back for warranty, two years is almost over.
Maybe the WiFi antenna and HDMI port are right next to each other causing excess heat or interference which disables the WiFi receiver.
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Hi Guys,
sorry for another thread about MHL, but I think this should be visible. I got MHL adapter directly from Samsung (borrowed for testing) and here are some troubles:
1) TV is showing that source is 1080p, but real picture is not that good. Maybe it is worse than 720p.
2) You cannot use the original Samsung MHL without charger in it. Simply the screen shows "no signal".
3) Bigger problem is the fact, that SGS II is discharging while on MHL, even the system is showing charging indicator. It is really weird and I will try to contact Samsung for some details.
Before I will send that email, can anyone check it? In my test it is enough to run some 1080p trailer at highest brightness for about minute or two. After that you will loose 1% from capacity.
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Hi Guys,
sorry for another thread about MHL, but I think this should be visible. I got MHL adapter directly from Samsung (borrowed for testing) and here are some troubles:
1) TV is showing that source is 1080p, but real picture is not that good. Maybe it is worse than 720p.
2) You cannot use the original Samsung MHL without charger in it. Simply the screen shows "no signal".
3) Bigger problem is the fact, that SGS II is discharging while on MHL, even the system is showing charging indicator. It is really weird and I will try to contact Samsung for some details.
Before I will send that email, can anyone check it? In my test it is enough to run some 1080p trailer at highest brightness for about minute or two. After that you will loose 1% from capacity.
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What ROM you running?
On earlier ROMs, whilst playing Order & Chaos on charge, my phone would still lose battery.
My setup:
Android version: 2.3.3
Baseband version I9100BUKE1
Build number:GINGERBREAD.BUKE5
According to Kies, this is the latest version available.
interesting, what are you powering it with?, psu adapter into a plug socket or are you just using a usb port to power it, if you are using a USB port to power it then it may not be pumping enough amps.
In regard to the poor picture, The MHL is just HDMI digital and so it cannot effect the picture really, I suspect your player on the phone is doing something to it, alternatively does your TV have compression on that input channel to soften or deblock? - are you sure the video you are playing is full HD or just looks like full HD on your small sg2 screen?
Its a bit worrying if it still drains as this effectively defeats the object of it.
I'm using original charger, which is in the pack. I'm going to test it on second Galaxy S II today and see the result.
With the resolution - I've made the tests on Philips Cinema 21:9 (2560x1080) and even the menu is really awful. Photos taken by the SGS II are slightly blur and text in browser hard to read . The trailers are also bad, as I said above.
I used PC with that TV and same trailer is absolutely smooth, so problem maybe in the player on SGSII, but I bet on problem somewhere in MHL transfer.
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I'm using original charger, which is in the pack. I'm going to test it on second Galaxy S II today and see the result.
With the resolution - I've made the tests on Philips Cinema 21:9 (2560x1080) and even the menu is really awful. Photos taken by the SGS II are slightly blur and text in browser hard to read . The trailers are also bad, as I said above.
I used PC with that TV and same trailer is absolutely smooth, so problem maybe in the player on SGSII, but I bet on problem somewhere in MHL transfer.
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I don't think it matters what charger you use, I have just found out the battery is capped at 0.650amp in the kernel....
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Can you specify it a bit? I'm gonna talk with some guy from Czech Samsung today, so I can post it to him....
Thanks
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I don't think it matters what charger you use, I have just found out the battery is capped at 0.650amp in the kernel....
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The 650 mA limit is in effect when it's connected to an AC charger, as determined by the resistance across the two data pins on the microUSB connector. Low resistance (< 200 ohm) indicates an AC charger; if the resistance is higher, it will treat the connection as a standard USB, in which case the current is limited to 450 mA (just below the 500 mA minimum +5VDC current in the USB 2.0 spec). Speculation is that the 650 mA limit is in place to keep the battery from overheating/exploding during charging.
What's almost certainly happening is that the SGS2's charge logic considers the MHL adapter connection to be a regular USB connection, thus limiting the charge current to 450 mA. If the SGS2 is drawing more than 450 mA as a result of its exertions (such as playing HD video), the battery will discharge.
There's probably a reason why Samsung did it this way -- the AC charger also has to power the MHL adapter, which has a bridge chip & support logic on it. If the SGS2 tried to draw a full 650 mA from it, the charger might not have enough capacity left to power the MHL logic.
The power issue has been covered now so it just leaves the output quality. So what you are saying is that you have played the same trailor on the TV using both a PC and your Phone and the phone output is bad?.
Any chance you could take some photos so we can see, I ask as HDMI is digital, you don't really get interference like old scart or S video adapters, usually the picture is either there and sharp or not there at all. If it is blurred it is either the player applying some sort of de-blocking / compression or the TV is, just cannot see this being the adapter.
The SGSII outputs in 1080i. Set your TV to 1080i instead of forcing it to 1080p and the image quality should improve. On mine, menus look crisp and games all work fine. The TV shows that it is 1080i, and I have set mine to accept all settings (720i, 720p, 1080i, 1080p)
I can confirm this works:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005F9W6DU
hows the vid quality?
monoprice has adapters for 14 dollars. Also since its a digital signal u don't have to worry about the quality of the picture. If it works it works if the signal is bad it won't work.
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Well, it is about what you would expect from WVGA stretched to a 1080p screen. Not bad, not great.
So it will record 1080p but outputs it at 800x480 via the hdmi? If that is the case then that's extremely disappointing.
I think it changes resolution when playing video. Notice how the screen blanks out briefly before playback begins? I think that's the resolution switchover. At least that's what happens on my international SGS2...
I want one.. but is it worth it? lol
just wanna verify that it mirrors your screen, correct? so its fully operational while outputting?
Complete mirror of screen. Can confirm movie playback is in 1080p. Fully functional.
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Complete mirror of screen. Can confirm movie playback is in 1080p. Fully functional.
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How do you mirror your screen? I have the phone connected to the TV through this Micro USB - HDMI adapter, but I see nothing on the TV when I play a video.
UPDATE: I think I answered my own question by reading other threads: you need to actually separately power the adapter through the USB port on its side. That's a bummer, so you actually need a separate USB power source!
Bleh...
Mediahub files blocks hdmi out.
Works if i play first then plug it in.
But once i move files off mediahub to sd card, that trick doesnt work anymore
Whatevs
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Bleh...
Mediahub files blocks hdmi out.
Works if i play first then plug it in.
But once i move files off mediahub to sd card, that trick doesn't work anymore
Whatevs
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Ya mine is being blocked as well. I bought the OEM Samsung one to watch my media hub stuff. Kinda disappointing. As stated before if you start the playback before you plug it in it works quite well.
So I just picked up an adapter locally and while it works just fine, I'm not sure it's working as it should with regards to charging. If I simply have the adapter plugged in and then plugged into the wall, it charges very very very slowly. If I actually plug in the hdmi cable and do something like stream a video, buh bye battery life. It drains crazy fast.
This adapter from Amazon, does the charger help keep the battery at around the same level while in use or do you see it drop a good bit as well?
Oh and with regards to MediaHub, whether I start a video before hooking up this adapter or after, I still get the same error on my tv about protection, etc.
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So I just picked up an adapter locally and while it works just fine, I'm not sure it's working as it should with regards to charging. If I simply have the adapter plugged in and then plugged into the wall, it charges very very very slowly. If I actually plug in the hdmi cable and do something like stream a video, buh bye battery life. It drains crazy fast.
This adapter from Amazon, does the charger help keep the battery at around the same level while in use or do you see it drop a good bit as well?
Oh and with regards to MediaHub, whether I start a video before hooking up this adapter or after, I still get the same error on my tv about protection, etc.
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In regards to charging this phone charges slow and if your using it watching video it will just barley keep up. The phone seems to use almost as much juice as it get from the charger as your watching video.
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How do you mirror your screen? I have the phone connected to the TV through this Micro USB - HDMI adapter, but I see nothing on the TV when I play a video.
UPDATE: I think I answered my own question by reading other threads: you need to actually separately power the adapter through the USB port on its side. That's a bummer, so you actually need a separate USB power source!
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So how do you get this working? and it puts 1080p video on the TV through the USB>HDMI from our i777?
What is media hub?
Anyone try a MHL-VGA with this phone?
I've tried a few adapters. There's 2 different adapters from Samsung the one with product #2 worked the best for me its on Amazon I got it for 25$ and works well. Also mirroring works even better with a launcher like adw ex as when it switches into landscape mode it looks great on a big screen
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But was it vga or hdmi?
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The menotek cable drops the connection, so it is worthless. I don't know if the official Samsung one is better, but I had to keep getting up to fix the menotek.
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I bought the Accel which seems to work well for me. $20 on Amazon.
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Hey guys and gals,
Although I've been lurking on these forums for a few weeks I've finally decided to join and ask some questions.
I've completed my S3 PC, got a nice monitor with HDMI input, bluetooth keyboard and mouse and of course the MHL adapter. Everything works great.. time to get rid of the ageing PC in my office.
I have a question though, I've connected the S3 to my TV and the new monitor and I never get a 1080p connection.. it's always 1080i
Is there any way to force 1080p as I do get a slight flicker with 1080i
I'm totally amazed at what the S3 can do! BTW I was a total apple fanboy until I got my S3 a few weeks ago.
Cheers in advance... and yes I searched
so nobody else is having this issue?? I was really hoping to get some help here Anyone??
Sure your monitor supports 1080p? What hz does it run when using 1080i?
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It doest output 1080p via hdmi just 1080i iv tested on all my tv sets and there are all top line and display tbe same i dont get any flicker tho are you using a good hdmi cable?
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thanks for confirming snowwhite007... I honestly thought it was able to output 1080p. I guess the slight flicker is due to the monitor then.
Flickering may also be due to the phone's HDMI chip. I'm not sure if it's clock source and other components are stable enough for a clean transmission of 31'104'000 (31,1million) pixels per second (1920 width*1080 height*30 images/second / 2 (interleaved) )
1080i and 1080p have the same native resolution of 1920x1080 pixels with the only difference being that "i" (interlaced) paints odd lines before even in 2 'ticks' while "p" (progressive) paints in one go from top to bottom.
So if there is any flickering it SHOULD only be every other line, can you confirm that?
Hi, i've got a question, can anyone give me a tip which keyboard and mouse works best with the s3?
I want to do exactly what you did. I want to use my phone as a pc.
So any Idea?
I bought a cheap bluetooth keyboard an mouse from Deal Extreme worka great
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Might sound like a silly thing, but just check your power saving isn't enabled, found that while it is enabled stuff like 1080 vids played really badly. That and what type of hdmi cable you are using could be factors.
I went on hols for two weeks and just took my S3 and a portable hard drive with hdmi and usb adapters and cables and used the hotels 1080p tvs as a full desktop, ubuntu and all
I am pretty positive that everytime I have used the hdmi it has been at 1080p. My guess is maybe a tv error unless it has run 1080p before?
EDIT: Oooh, just had another thought, what exact hdmi adapter did you use? Link included if that's not against forum rules? Know when I got mine I had to wade thru a lot of close immitations that don't display properly as they are cheap fakes sold as the real thing, one would only display 720p
can you tellme the model of bluetooth keyboard and mouse? i wanna do the same
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can you tellme the model of bluetooth keyboard and mouse? i wanna do the same
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I bought a generic mini bluetooth keyboard from amazon marketplace, it's not the bees knees but its about the size of the phone, bluetooth, rechargeable and only £10.
Works great for using the terminal or typing complex passwords etc when traveling or using as a desktop.
Also used the microsoft notebook bluetooth mouse 5000, got that cheap through amazon marketplace too.
Neither come with bluetooth adapters though so would need to by one seperately if ever using with a pc that doesn't have built in bluetooth.
1080i
Hi
I recently purchased MHL adapter from this website
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s3-mhlhdmi-adaptor
And I have same problem as you. My TV only gets 1080i not 1080p.
However I don't get flickering, I just see that there is not enough vertical pixels (visible difference)
Tried bunch of different hdmi cables (cables that work with various 1080p devices with no issues whatsoever) and I always get 1080i.
Even when I try to playback video which is 1080p.
I'll try later if there is any difference if I plug it in through AMP (onkyo) and not the tv and let you know if there is any difference.
Cheers
pugger said:
Hey guys and gals,
Although I've been lurking on these forums for a few weeks I've finally decided to join and ask some questions.
I've completed my S3 PC, got a nice monitor with HDMI input, bluetooth keyboard and mouse and of course the MHL adapter. Everything works great.. time to get rid of the ageing PC in my office.
I have a question though, I've connected the S3 to my TV and the new monitor and I never get a 1080p connection.. it's always 1080i
Is there any way to force 1080p as I do get a slight flicker with 1080i
I'm totally amazed at what the S3 can do! BTW I was a total apple fanboy until I got my S3 a few weeks ago.
Cheers in advance... and yes I searched
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Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KZ3XE6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: http://landoftechnology.com/2013/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-smart-dock-review/
I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA-reviews
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
This smart dock is really cool, here is another demo of it getting hooked up with a KMV cable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCPCY9PSfSk
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Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KZ3XE6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: http://landoftechnology.com/2013/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-smart-dock-review/
I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA-reviews
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
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The one in your link is for the N2 and S3-S4. One new feature the N3 came out with is the USB 3.0.
I'm waiting for Sammy to come out with a dedicated dock for the N3 to take advantage of the higher speeds, that is if you want to set it up as your new desktop computer with mouse/keyboard, HDMI monitor and an external HDD hooked up to it... I'll wait.
The one in the link is for the GN3 as well if you check.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Samsung doesn't seem to be in any hurry to come out with ANY accessories for the GN3, let alone a dock that is going to be pretty much the same as this one. The 3.0 usb is only faster for smaller files. There's been a couple of guys on the forums who have run some tests. I personally have found it a little faster for some things, but overall, not much. With my set up and an SSD, I'm not waiting for anything at all when I'm working on it.
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The one in the link is for the GN3 as well if you check.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Samsung doesn't seem to be in any hurry to come out with ANY accessories for the GN3, let alone a dock that is going to be pretty much the same as this one. The 3.0 usb is only faster for smaller files. There's been a couple of guys on the forums who have run some tests. I personally have found it a little faster for some things, but overall, not much. With my set up and an SSD, I'm not waiting for anything at all when I'm working on it.
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how functional would a touch screen monitor be if it were hooked up with this?
OMG-FFS said:
The one in your link is for the N2 and S3-S4. One new feature the N3 came out with is the USB 3.0.
I'm waiting for Sammy to come out with a dedicated dock for the N3 to take advantage of the higher speeds, that is if you want to set it up as your new desktop computer with mouse/keyboard, HDMI monitor and an external HDD hooked up to it... I'll wait.
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It is for n3 also. You're not benefitting much from the usb3. I'd rather wait for 64bit phones to come out and mature some before I start using a desktop dock.
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how functional would a touch screen monitor be if it were hooked up with this?
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It should work fine, but I don't have one so I can't test it to see. By connecting the keyboard with a mouse it automatically switches the interface to the mouse instead of the phones touch screen, so It may or may not see the touch screen feature of the monitor. I would just take it to someplace like Best Buy and test it first if I were you.
tdgillihan said:
Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
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OP can you post pics with the note 3 in the dock I want to see how well it sits and I have the Spigen slim armor do you think I'll be able to dock the device with the case on or will I have to take it off everytime
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It is for n3 also. You're not benefitting much from the usb3. I'd rather wait for 64bit phones to come out and mature some before I start using a desktop dock.
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Right, it's compatible with the N3, but it doesn't mean it was made for it.
So you think the end user would benefit more (see the actual speed increase) from the 64 bit computing rather than transfer speeds increase from using the USB 3.0? I'm sure the dock station mean for a light home use (internet, documents, multimedia, etc, not sure about gaming with this setup) and not for the 3D modeling and such? I honestly can't say that I was blown away from switching to 64 bit home PC and notebook, the noticeable difference on a phone would be even less.
Thinking about it, can't even say I'd see the benefits of USB 3.0 as I don't (and won't be) copying files between the phone memory and the external storage.
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OP can you post pics with the note 3 in the dock I want to see how well it sits and I have the Spigen slim armor do you think I'll be able to dock the device with the case on or will I have to take it off everytime
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I'll try to get you some pics this weekend. It should fit with your case. I have the Poetic Invictus (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EXA6WY6/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) on mine and it fits with room to spare. The GN3 sits just a little bit to the left in the stand due to the location of the USB 2 connection, but it is very slight and barely noticable, imo.
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I'll try to get you some pics this weekend. It should fit with your case. I have the Poetic Invictus on mine and it fits with room to spare. The GN3 sits just a little bit to the left in the stand due to the location of the USB 2 connection, but it is very slight and barely noticable, imo.
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I'm a bit concerned that case seems' significantly thinner than mine but the pics will be much appreciated It will allow me to make an informed decision and have you done the HDMI connection to a TV is there an issue with it or is everything on the dock working properly I saw the video about the KMV switcher where he forced landscape but the sizing issue is of concern I'll probably have to bite the bullet on that one.
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I'm a bit concerned that case seems' significantly thinner than mine but the pics will be much appreciated It will allow me to make an informed decision and have you done the HDMI connection to a TV is there an issue with it or is everything on the dock working properly I saw the video about the KMV switcher where he forced landscape but the sizing issue is of concern I'll probably have to bite the bullet on that one.
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Everything works perfectly. I watch full screen HD movies on my home theater system all the time. And the dock automatically switches the view on the HDMI connected peripheral to landscape. as long as you have daydream toggled off in display and desk home screen display toggled on in accessory. You should also set HDMI audio output to surround if you have a home theater system.
You don't need KMV switcher.
I get my movies from Showbox. Due to XDA policies, I can't post the apk for it here, but you can just Google it to download and install.
I am not getting 1080p
When I hook up the dock to the monitor it is giving me 1280x720. Any ideas?
Hello... I would buy this dock. But a question. Why have the note3 so a different usb-connector.. Micro-usb +??? My Orginal Samsung otg cable works. My non Samsung Orginal mhl-hdmi cable works. What or for What is this connector.. Another little help please. Cover and dock works together i read, is this right? I use Orginal Samsung s view Cover.
Gn3 has a usb3.0 connector. Standard 2.0 micro USB works fine
I'm really disappointed with the smart dock.
There is a lag of half a second between the action and the display on the TV screen, It's impossible to play any games in theses conditions.
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I'm really disappointed with the smart dock.
There is a lag of half a second between the action and the display on the TV screen, It's impossible to play any games in theses conditions.
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Sounds like something wrong with your setup. There are a number of vids on YouTube showing the SmartDock in action, including one by XDA member NZTechFreak, demonstrating outstanding response - certainly no sign of "half a second" lag.
PM him and he may be able to offer you advice on getting it to work correctly.
This smart dock is really very nice .....
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Sounds like something wrong with your setup. There are a number of vids on YouTube showing the SmartDock in action, including one by XDA member NZTechFreak, demonstrating outstanding response - certainly no sign of "half a second" lag.
PM him and he may be able to offer you advice on getting it to work correctly.
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There is lag from the MHL connection to the TV. I've an aftermarket MHL to HDMI cable and Samsungs own MHL connection, both which have a lag on TV screen compared to what is actually happening on the device.
Fine for Movies and Stuff, but completely unsuitable for gaming.
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There is lag from the MHL connection to the TV. I've an aftermarket MHL to HDMI cable and Samsungs own MHL connection, both which have a lag on TV screen compared to what is actually happening on the device.
Fine for Movies and Stuff, but completely unsuitable for gaming.
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See NZtechfreak's YouTube vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hy3wETf5o0 here.
He plays games with the SmartDock and his PS3 controller, so "completely unsuitable for gaming" is a bit of an exaggeration.
And nobody said there was no lag. I questioned the previous poster's "half second" lag experience. The lag through the dock is closer to a tenth of a second, as is clearly visible the clip.
If that's unacceptable to you, then your choice is clear - don't get one. And not everybody plans on gaming. For me, the ability to stream Netflix to my TV justifies the SmartDock's existence.
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Hi. Has anyone tried using a USB C-to-HDMI cable to connect Mate 10 to a monitor. How do you like it? Do apps scale well on monitor? Assuming you hooked up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, have you tried editing a document? Thanks!
still waiting for my Mate 10! But one of the reasons for getting one is USB-C to HDMI. One thing I noted when sourcing a cable - if you use a "standard" cable you won't be able to stream Netflix/Amazon streaming due to lack of "HDCP" compliance. I got a cable that was compliant for a few euro more on Amazon. Just keep this in mind if you want to stream Netflix etc.
Does anyone know if this would work with a Surface Pro 4? The SP4 has a mini display port, so maybe with a mini display port adapter, we can connect Mate 10 to the SP4 and view desktop mode on the tablet. Would that work?
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still waiting for my Mate 10! But one of the reasons for getting one is USB-C to HDMI. One thing I noted when sourcing a cable - if you use a "standard" cable you won't be able to stream Netflix/Amazon streaming due to lack of "HDCP" compliance. I got a cable that was compliant for a few euro more on Amazon. Just keep this in mind if you want to stream Netflix etc.
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So how and where to buy a cable to bypass this restriction, I am trying to play xfinity app and it tells me there is a restriction OMG wth it becoming Apple this android
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So how and where to buy a cable to bypass this restriction, I am trying to play xfinity app and it tells me there is a restriction OMG wth it becoming Apple this android
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Well the cable I have purchased is the one linked below - which the manufacturer says (elsewhere) is the HDCP compliant one. I can't guarantee you that it will work though!
I am expecting my phone and this cable this week so will try out!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XS7T4GP
NOTE - this manufacturer also sells usb-c to hdmi cables that it says are NOT compliant. Only one above is one they say is compliant.
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Well the cable I have purchased is the one linked below - which the manufacturer says (elsewhere) is the HDCP compliant one. I can't guarantee you that it will work though!
I am expecting my phone and this cable this week so will try out!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XS7T4GP
NOTE - this manufacturer also sells usb-c to hdmi cables that it says are NOT compliant. Only one above is one they say is compliant.
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Thanks I'll look for it here in Amazon US, no problem returning so might as well try.
I tried it out briefly when I got the phone.
I used a type c to HDMI adapter, with a normal HDMI cable.
Some things I noticed:
I think this drained the battery more than anything else I've done with the phone (including gaming).
The phone was noticeable warm after the session.
My phone rebooted shortly after the desktop session. Like it crashed.
The phone states it's in reverse charge mode, like juice is also bring drained from the phone to the TV.
I couldn't get YouTube to work full screen without borders. Unless I was mirroring the phone screen (which means phone screen also remains on).
I've mixed feelings, it's early days I guess.
Ok, I am still waiting for the cable from Amazon but ended up purchasing an adaptor from Maplin.
Worked fine - as in outputted screen of phone (in phone or 'desktop' mode).
But I did notice that the screen resolution as outputted was far less than the resolution of the screen - I would have expected the 1080p display to mirror across to the TV.
It wasn't that it was bad, just blurry text and not crisp when looking at video. Whereas in the past, with a phone with an actual hdmi connection as opposed to usb-c, or indeed when outputting a media player with hdmi or casting using chromecast, the quality is perfect.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong or perhaps the Maplin cable is not up to speed. Open to ideas.
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Ok, I am still waiting for the cable from Amazon but ended up purchasing an adaptor from Maplin.
Worked fine - as in outputted screen of phone (in phone or 'desktop' mode).
But I did notice that the screen resolution as outputted was far less than the resolution of the screen - I would have expected the 1080p display to mirror across to the TV.
It wasn't that it was bad, just blurry text and not crisp when looking at video. Whereas in the past, with a phone with an actual hdmi connection as opposed to usb-c, or indeed when outputting a media player with hdmi or casting using chromecast, the quality is perfect.
Perhaps I'm doing something wrong or perhaps the Maplin cable is not up to speed. Open to ideas.
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Interesting. Sounds like you are using Mate 10 Pro. Wonder if resolution is improved using Mate 10.
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I tried it out briefly when I got the phone.
I used a type c to HDMI adapter, with a normal HDMI cable.
Some things I noticed:
I think this drained the battery more than anything else I've done with the phone (including gaming).
The phone was noticeable warm after the session.
My phone rebooted shortly after the desktop session. Like it crashed.
The phone states it's in reverse charge mode, like juice is also bring drained from the phone to the TV.
I couldn't get YouTube to work full screen without borders. Unless I was mirroring the phone screen (which means phone screen also remains on).
I've mixed feelings, it's early days I guess.
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I was wondering about the battery drainage. Some cables I've seen have an additional input for charger. Maybe that might help
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Interesting. Sounds like you are using Mate 10 Pro. Wonder if resolution is improved using Mate 10.
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No, normal Mate 10.
Other cable arrived and same situation. To clarify, it's fine, and perfectly watchable, just not crystal clear. It strikes me that this method seems like the usb-c to hdmi cable is simply mirroring the display of the phone rather than actually outputting the video file itself independently - as would happen with a HDMI connection as you used to get on some phones. Perhaps this is something to do with the issue.
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No, normal Mate 10.
Other cable arrived and same situation. To clarify, it's fine, and perfectly watchable, just not crystal clear. It strikes me that this method seems like the usb-c to hdmi cable is simply mirroring the display of the phone rather than actually outputting the video file itself independently - as would happen with a HDMI connection as you used to get on some phones. Perhaps this is something to do with the issue.
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......hope you post result of amazon cable! have a nice day!
It was amazon cable I referred to above. So same with maplin adaptor and amazon cable. Tried outputting a HD YouTube video but not much different. As I say, fine, but not as clear as would expect if you copied that file to a media player attached to a tv via hdmi
Hooked mine up with the Huawei supercharger and cable and it slowly drains the battery in desktop mode. Without charger it will suck down the battery fast. Benched with Antutu and got 175k on phone. In desktop on 30" monitor got 157k. Still faster than my Mate 9. My S8+ in Dex was just about worthless. Also with the M10 in desktop with wired mouse has zero lag. Bluetooth mouse a different story. So gaming is pretty good on a monitor.
Ok, I "solved" my problem by fluke. I would love if someone more techy than me could explain but this is what I did to fix the fact that the HDMI output looked more like 640x480 than a hi def picture.
Went to TV settings, and selected advanced, HDMI settings, and Changed HDMI "Auto" mode to HDMI Graphic mode (choice of Graphic/Video - video was default and was crap). As soon as I did this I had perfect outputted photos and videos.
According to one tv manual I found on a search:
"Graphic: HDMI input timing set to Graphic mode (PC) - The image is full scan.
Video: HDMI input timing set to Video mode. The image is over scan."
According to someone on a completely unrelated PS4 forum:
"Basically by changing the HDMI mode to graphic, the HDMI output (be it gaming console, pc, or cable) bypasses "extra" processing features of the TV that
make the game and TV broadcasts look crappy and also causes lag. By bypassing those features you will get a much clearer picture."
Either way, it's fixed. On my tv. And on a shop tv the same issue. So given that I've connected previous phones with hdmi connections a few years ago without issues, this suggests that it is something to do with how the Mate 10 outputs signals in a way that TV recognises?
Love to hear an explanation from the experts. Thanks.
Edit: someone else with a similar issue on another device - so it seems the issue is that the Mate 10 is not recognised by most Televisions as a "PC" which would correct hdmi mode to "graphics" ?
"When I switch between the Blu-Ray and the PC on two separate HDMI inputs, the TV doesn't detect that's it's connected to a PC, so it doesn't switch from video to graphics mode - which is required for it to look good as a computer monitor.
Since the TV deosn't recognize the PC and auto switch to graphics mode, when I switch from Blu-Ray to PC, I have to dig down into the menu and switch the HDMI mode to graphics manually - and then back when I go to the Blu-Ray. -- Major pain if I'm switching back and forth."
Any ideas? Is this something Huawei could fix in firmware?
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Any ideas? Is this something Huawei could fix in firmware?
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It looks like its related to the TV resolution : I have the same issue (640*480 resolution) when I connect the mate 10 pro to a 4K native TV but it works perfect when connected to a full HD TV !! It's a shame as 4K tend to be the standard display, so I guess Huawei should fix it whith a firmware update. Any other solution (HDMI 2.0 cable maybe??) ?