root first or not? - TouchPad General

hi:
so i got this thing yesterday.
i fully intend to put android on it.
since it can dual boot, do i really need to root first or can i tweak webos as i like
then put on android later?
maybe when ics is fully functional or when im better satisfied w/ webos tweaks..
thanx

amkaos said:
hi:
so i got this thing yesterday.
i fully intend to put android on it.
since it can dual boot, do i really need to root first or can i tweak webos as i like
then put on android later?
maybe when ics is fully functional or when im better satisfied w/ webos tweaks..
thanx
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In webos, to root turn debugging on. That's it.
Deal with the webos tweaks (logging, wosqi, preware, etc.) first. Then go ahead and install android. It's working well, at least for me. It's great having a dual-boot tablet.
Read the forum, it's one of the best ways to learn, both webos and android. You'll find step-by-step instructions for just about everything.

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[Q] Windows ROM & Android

Hey,
Well basically when my HD2 gets back from repair I am thinking of doing some of this ROM business with it.
I have been looking at the "Energy ROM" which looks pretty sweet. However, I have also been looking the Android build "shubCRAFT Minimal Hybrid".
Now im not sure whuch one to install but then it came to my mind, can I install this Energy one and then install the android build? I have seen you can do a duel boot up which I may look into.
However is it possible?
Thanks
Oo Alias oO said:
Hey,
Well basically when my HD2 gets back from repair I am thinking of doing some of this ROM business with it.
I have been looking at the "Energy ROM" which looks pretty sweet. However, I have also been looking the Android build "shubCRAFT Minimal Hybrid".
Now im not sure whuch one to install but then it came to my mind, can I install this Energy one and then install the android build? I have seen you can do a duel boot up which I may look into.
However is it possible?
Thanks
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they are not mutually excluisve and to have android you need windows (at least for now.)
flash energy. then put shubcraft on your sd card and use the dual boot (which allows which one to launch.) best of both worlds!

[Q] New to S2/Android... coming from WebOS

Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
yqed said:
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).

Xoom Anyone?

Anyone here have a Xoom? And did you root it? And is it as easy as the x2 or a little more involved?
I've got one. Rooted and running Tiamat Moray 2.2.2.
As far as rooting goes, I don't know of a one click available for it although there may be. There wasn't at the time I rooted mine. When I rooted mine it was a matter of unlocking the Xoom, installing CWR via fastboot and then flashing a rooted stock rom using CWR to do it. That was quite a while ago though. I think there are ways to root without flashing a rom now but as far as I know, they all involve using ADB and fastboot. It's just a matter of typing commands. It's not hard though. Just follow instructions and you'll be fine.
I don't spend a lot of time in that forum now because I'm happy as can be with what I have now. Moray is a nice rom. Everything works and it's super smooth. However, the Moray rom is for Wi-Fi only and 3G devices. It doesn't support 4G at the moment. How you root it, what rom you put on it, etc., all depends on what kind of device you have so you have to pay attention when checking out the different things available. They all state which devices they support. I'd post links to what you need but I don't know just what it is you have so I'll just post a link to the Xoom developer forum. If you haven't been there yet, have a look. Everything you need to know, you'll find there.
Xoom Android Development

Bauhn 9.7" 3G Tablet Root (AMID-9743G)

Hi all,
Wondering if anyone in the community knows of a way to root this Tablet and if there are any custom roms,
It's running 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
Drunkllamajr said:
Hi all,
Wondering if anyone in the community knows of a way to root this Tablet and if there are any custom roms,
It's running 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
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Used SuperOneClick which says it has worked however none of the Root checkers say it is and the Super user apps can't update their binaries, anyone know how to properly root these tablets?
I too have purchased this tablet from ALDI, I am very happy with it. Would love to be able to root it... you know what I mean
Fredmanfred said:
I too have purchased this tablet from ALDI, I am very happy with it. Would love to be able to root it... you know what I mean
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I have successfully rooted it following the instructions from http://whrl.pl/RdvMXo
However I had to do some things a little different, (after reading the guide you'll understand my next bit)
after I clicked the restore data and it doing the restore it's meant to reboot the tablet although mine didn't so after trying this several times I rebooted it manually to which it actually worked.
My only anger towards this tablet is that it was advertised as 1.2GHz CPU when in fact it's 1GHz.
Champion! Worked for me, Only took 10min.
Now that the device is rooted, what would you suggest next?
Im not well versed on the apps, roms or other things to run on a tablet. So any ideas would be great.
My phone is rooted with Clockwork Mod and a custom rom, is this possible with the tablet?
And once again, thanks for the help
Fred
Fredmanfred said:
Champion! Worked for me, Only took 10min.
Now that the device is rooted, what would you suggest next?
Im not well versed on the apps, roms or other things to run on a tablet. So any ideas would be great.
My phone is rooted with Clockwork Mod and a custom rom, is this possible with the tablet?
And once again, thanks for the help
Fred
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See now I haven't done anything ROM wise with my tablet as of yet because there are no ROMs that I can find for our little chinese made no name brand tablet, I'll be keeping my ears and eyes open for any ROMs I can find or ones that people have tested, I'm just not keen to test one of them myself and brick my tablet.
Hi, I need someone's help in testing a new version of my Online Nandroid script. It has built-in support for MTK based devices such as yours. If anyone would like to try the beta, please send me a PM.

solve it if u r good

Hi everyone, i have a huge issue with my desie x. I have been interested about android and I have decided to install one of the mods the modders are making in this category which is "android development ". So I did follow the tutirial, but I have ended with a "Rom" I don't even know what does that mean but anyway it is very very slow and buggy and I have absolutely no idea how to get back to the original android I need any other good android version that will speed up my phone . I remember that I have used clockwork mod and that's all I can remember. If anyone could write me a step by step tutorial in bullet pointsaabout changing it back ASAP so ny phone runs fast I would be very grateful.
Many regards,
Patryk.
ptys27 said:
Hi everyone, i have a huge issue with my desie x. I have been interested about android and I have decided to install one of the mods the modders are making in this category which is "android development ". So I did follow the tutirial, but I have ended with a "Rom" I don't even know what does that mean but anyway it is very very slow and buggy and I have absolutely no idea how to get back to the original android I need any other good android version that will speed up my phone . I remember that I have used clockwork mod and that's all I can remember. If anyone could write me a step by step tutorial in bullet pointsaabout changing it back ASAP so ny phone runs fast I would be very grateful.
Many regards,
Patryk.
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Without any details no one can help you out! Check what rom have you installed .. Go to About Phone..
Next check out other ROMs available here.. Vimiro and Mysensedx5 are good if you want Sense 5 roms. or go for slimrom if you want an aosp android.. Do check out the bugs first though.

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