Well, I know I stumbled on a thread on how to do this before but I have been searching for hours and can't seem to find a working method, so I apologize if it's right in front of my eyes.
I am looking for a way to have the external SD card mounted to /mnt/sdcard instead of /mnt/sdcard2.
The Internal Storage is useful but I would like to have it mounted as sdcard2 or something else, even if I lose the functionality completely, it wouldn't bother me. I would like to have my External SD as my main storage unit for the phone and apps.
If this is at all possible please guide me in the right direction.
Thanks in advance
Nshih422 said:
Well, I know I stumbled on a thread on how to do this before but I have been searching for hours and can't seem to find a working method, so I apologize if it's right in front of my eyes.
I am looking for a way to have the external SD card mounted to /mnt/sdcard instead of /mnt/sdcard2.
The Internal Storage is useful but I would like to have it mounted as sdcard2 or something else, even if I lose the functionality completely, it wouldn't bother me. I would like to have my External SD as my main storage unit for the phone and apps.
If this is at all possible please guide me in the right direction.
Thanks in advance
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i will make a patch when i get home from school
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I think I'm just looking for some validation here.
I've been struggling with music and video files. So I've occasionally wanted to format my micro SD card (external). I was using the G-Tab's settings - SD card and Device Settings - Unmount SD Card - Format SD Card.
Call me dense, but I assumed that I was un-mounting the external SD card and formatting that. Paying closer attention, I'm actually wiping the INTERNAL SD storage area! Lesson learned. No harm, no foul since I haven't put anything of substance ON the tablet yet.
I pulled the external micro SD Card and formatted it FAT32 and it's working like a champ. I have media on both external and internal which didn't show up immediately, but as others have stated, it's important in Vegan-Tab to reboot when you make a change to the SD Cards before stuff shows up correctly. I did this (rebooted) and Voila! all media is showing up in the player.
If anyone with more knowledge wants to chime in, it's appreciated!
That.....Sucks....
SDCARD2 is the external....
It's all good... now I know. Hopefully someone searching here will learn from it.
I really hadn't put diddly on the internal SD card and the format actually only clears the user data space, not the ROM/Kernel.
Once I get some "personal" stability with the G-Tablet, I'll worry about keeping my data backed up!
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010943
There are a lot of other stickies that various ones of us have put
together trying to anticipate what would help.........
Rev
butchconner said:
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010943
There are a lot of other stickies that various ones of us have put
together trying to anticipate what would help.........
Rev
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I actually had read this (and most of the other stickies). Thanks a ton for posting the information!
What I didn't find was specific information about the disappearing media files as it relates to the /sdcard and /sdcard2 directories and the implications of .nomedia.
I was running loose without a .nomedia "lock" and it deleted a couple of MP4 movies I had installed on the external card. I reloaded them (Windows found errors on the card) and installed the card. I rescanned until the files showed up and added a .nomedia folder to see if that keeps them put. So far so good.
It's a drag to pull out the tablet and brag about how cool it is and have the movies gone for the demo!
Thanks to all for the valuable input.
G-Tab,
I hear you. But I personally never get into helping folks with video, sound, music
etc.
Usually the people I work with are at the crash and burn stage and need the most
basic info.
Maybe you can gather the info and put together a post on the video/music/etc.
side of it?
Rev
Rev,
You're right, a consolidated thread might be helpful.
I actually tagged onto one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895340
The issue is interesting because it seems to be just the video files. My MP3 files are left alone. Makes me wonder if it has something to do with the size of the file? The MP4's I had are over 750meg in size. I will experiment a bit and see if different sized MP4's make a difference as well as .AVI.
When you choose to move an app to the SD card either manually by going through the 'Manage Apps' option on the phone or by using an app like 'App 2 SD' I've found that it moves the apps to /mnt/sdcard/.android_secure but my actual external 32GB SD card is located at /mtn/sdcard-ext/
So what is the real benefit of moving the apps to another local place on the phone? Does this give you more space by going to the /mnt/scard/ directory than the default app install location?
Also is there no way to truly move apps to your real external SD card located at /mnt/sdcard-ext/
Sorry if this has been answered previously I did a search for similar threads but didn't find anything.
OK I think I have this figured out now, I looked a friend's phone who has an HTC Incredible and his /mnt/sdcard directory really is his external SD card. However on the Atrix there an additional storage area /mnt/sdcard that isn't external but is still very big, mine is over 10GB so that works fine.
It was just a little confusing at first since all the App 2 SD or move to SD options seem to be hard coded to expect your true external SD card on your phone is always going to be located at /mnt/sdcard.
i got the same problem,i don't know why motorola do it, i have much problem with my internal space.I want to know how change the label..?
I'm trying to understand the different storage memory points on this beast. I love to have my device files in my Device to be well organized. However, having a directory named sdcard-ext (external, as I understand) in my sdcard (internal?) directory that apparently mirrors sdcard2 is really throwing me off.
Is anyone able to explain the differences between these?
i.e. If I want to save things to my sdcard, do I bring it to sdcard2 or sdcard-ext?
Apologies if this has been explained on a different thread elsewhere. My searching brought up nothing to answer my question. Thanks in advance everyone.
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sdcard is the internal memory with total capacity of the 16gb. capacity includes system partitions. sdcard2 is actually your external removable memory card. sdcard-ext and other derivatives means an ext partition on external. that refers to a separate partition for installing apps to the memory card. usually don't have to worry about ext partitions since majority of everyone installs apps to internal
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AJMetal87 said:
I'm trying to understand the different storage memory points on this beast. I love to have my device files in my Device to be well organized. However, having a directory named sdcard-ext (external, as I understand) in my sdcard (internal?) directory that apparently mirrors sdcard2 is really throwing me off.
Is anyone able to explain the differences between these?
i.e. If I want to save things to my sdcard, do I bring it to sdcard2 or sdcard-ext?
Apologies if this has been explained on a different thread elsewhere. My searching brought up nothing to answer my question. Thanks in advance everyone.
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As I understand it, ext_sd is just a link (not a physical location) on the sd memory. I would always move your files to sdcard2, but you may encounter some apps that don't recognize it and you will have to use ext_sd to access anything there.
uToTMeH8 said:
As I understand it, ext_sd is just a link (not a physical location) on the sd memory. I would always move your files to sdcard2, but you may encounter some apps that don't recognize it and you will have to use ext_sd to access anything there.
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Either way at the end of the day they get you to the same place. Most apps will use ext_sd and not sdcard2 though. Either way same place.
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Thanks for the help and quick responses. Hopefully it will help others too.
Taking things a step further - As far as application storage goes for apps on the external sd card, is it really that beneficial? Considering (as I understand) we have 3 gee bees of storage specifically for applications and they're data? Especially if I'm running v6 supercharged at 1000hp.
I'm all for optimization. This is just another thing storage related I never completely understood.
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AJMetal87 said:
Thanks for the help and quick responses. Hopefully it will help others too.
Taking things a step further - As far as application storage goes for apps on the external sd card, is it really that beneficial? Considering (as I understand) we have 3 gee bees of storage specifically for applications and they're data? Especially if I'm running v6 supercharged at 1000hp.
I'm all for optimization. This is just another thing storage related I never completely understood.
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internal is usually enough for the majority of your apps unless you have an absurd amount installed. I wouldn't advise using those 3rd party performance scripts and tweaks. usually they do the opposite since the devs who made roms usually tweaked what needed to make the rom perform well so those extras aren't needed. if you still insist just monitor since it could decrease their purpose
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I have a 16GB nook tablet (kuzma30's CM10 ROM) and would like to use the emmc as sdcard to store pictures, downloads, etc.
The ROM is very stable, despite being an alpha. I believe that is the only issue preventing me from properly using it.
I see the emmc is mounted in /storage/sdcard0 and the external sdcard is mounted on /storage/sdcard1.
There are links (i believe) from /emmc to /storage/sdcard0 and /sdcard to /storage/sdcard1
There are some apps that require sdcard (gallery, browser for downloads)
I would like to use the emmc as sdcard to be able to use such apps without the need of an sdcard and store media content on the emmc memory.
After digging around I've found that by editing the /system/etc/vold.fstab I could swap the mounting places of emmc and external sd. That would make the sdcard appear as emmc and the emmc appear as sdcard, which would solve my problem. But that solution didn't work on my nook, it didn't change the mounting points.
After more digging, I've found that the proper way to swap the storage locations was to add a line to /system/build.prop, with the persist.sys.vold.switchexternal parameter set to 1. That indeed worked and swapped the storage locations, but created some issues. Whenever I open some apps (like gallery), the process android.process.media crashes. Sometimes it even crashes alone.
I am looking for a solution to use the emmc as sdcard, since 16GB storage is plenty for me and I don't wanna use an sdcard in my NT.
What I believe are possible solutions are (however I don't know how to do):
Create a link inside /sdcard pointing to /emmc
Create a link inside /storage/sdcard1 to /storage/sdcard0
Mount the emmc to more then one location (to /storage/sdcard0 and to /storage/sdcard1/emmc)
Find some other way to use the persist.sys.vold.switchexternal that doesn't cause processes to crash
I have tried to create links, but they don't work for gallery or downloads.
What I would like to try now is to mount emmc in more than one location, which I have absolutely no clue on how to do (and I've already googled).
Or maybe there is a way to stop the processes from crashing. That would solve my problem too.
Other solutions are also accepted and appreciated!
Thanks in advance for your time and help.
I am also interested in this, as I have multiple family members and friends with NT which would like me to root and flash CM10, but I don't want to have to buy SD cards for all of them..
Clear Dalvik cache.
I did this by editing vold.fstab. Be CAREFUL about editing this file, because if you mess it up, you can make CM10 unbootable.
Here are the changes I made:
dev_mount sdcard1 /storage/sdcard1 10 /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
dev_mount sdcard0 storage/sdcard0 auto /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/mmc_host/mmc1
traversc said:
I did this by editing vold.fstab. Be CAREFUL about editing this file, because if you mess it up, you can make CM10 unbootable.
Here are the changes I made:
dev_mount sdcard1 /storage/sdcard1 10 /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.1/mmc_host/mmc0
dev_mount sdcard0 storage/sdcard0 auto /devices/platform/omap/omap_hsmmc.0/mmc_host/mmc1
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That worked. I did try swapping the lines earlier, but I swapped the second part of it, not the first. And kept emmc instead of sdcard0 and sdcard instead of sdcard1. Thanks for the solution.
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darthwissen said:
That worked. I did try swapping the lines earlier, but I swapped the second part of it, not the first. And kept emmc instead of sdcard0 and sdcard instead of sdcard1. Thanks for the solution.
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Sorry, I was too quick to say it worked. It did swap the storage, but the process started to crash again. Any ideas?
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I am hoping for a solution to this as well. I rooted a nook for a friend and I will give it back to them without an sd, but i want them to be able to use gallery and stuff so i need the internal memory to work as an sd
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hwong96 said:
Clear Dalvik cache.
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Sorry, but that didn't work...
Time for a bump, not solved yet.
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I doubt there is much interest in solving this from the people that have the know-how needed. After all, it's not really much of an issue as long as you keep a small sd-card in the Tablet. You can still use internal storage for most of your media (music, pictures, video). Apps like Gallery or Meridian Widget need the card to write small amounts of data, but they are happy to handle media in the eMMc storage.
Having said that, a sloution would be neat and I'm sure in time it will come!
Installed CM10 on new NT this weekend. It has obviously made my nook a lot cooler, but it sure would be nice to store books, pics and other media in the internal ,memory - sort of being back some of the nook...
I don't seem to be able to save anything to internal memory, despite plenty of space. Is that to be expected? When I look at settings -> storage it seems like I have two 8 gig memory allocations. Can neither be used for media download.
Sorry for noon question. I tackles the root with no probe thanks the the great guides here.
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Read this topic through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2077010
You can certainly save stuff internally.
I would very much like to do this as well on my hd+ running cm10.
Still looking for a solution. Nothing yet. I would appreciate if somebody could bring this to kuzma's attention since I can't post at the developers thread yet. As I said, I am able to swap the memory location, but that causes the media process to crash.
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And the same thing happens in the AOSP ROM too.
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darthwissen said:
Still looking for a solution. Nothing yet. I would appreciate if somebody could bring this to kuzma's attention
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I doubt anything has to be brought to any of the hard working developers attention regarding this issue. I'm pretty sure they are completely aware, but don't consider it much of a problem compared to other things that needs sorting out. After all it has a mega-super-duper-easy fix: Pop in a 1GB (or smaller even!) card and forget about it!
asawi said:
I doubt anything has to be brought to any of the hard working developers attention regarding this issue. I'm pretty sure they are completely aware, but don't consider it much of a problem compared to other things that needs sorting out. After all it has a mega-super-duper-easy fix: Pop in a 1GB (or smaller even!) card and forget about it!
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That "mega-super-duper-easy fix" does not actually fix the problem, it just provides a simple workaround. There are users, including myself, who would like apps to have access to emmc like they do the sdcard. I don't want to waste one of my microsd's for something as trivial as this. This should be brought to the developers' attentions, as it is a bug that needs actual fixing, and not a gimmicky fix. If we show a decent amount of support for the issue, the developers may prioritize, or at least acknowledge, it, and we may have a solution in a reasonable amount of time.
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This should be brought to the developers' attentions,
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Or those that think it's so important could start working on a solution? Just a thought...
asawi said:
Or those that think it's so important could start working on a solution? Just a thought...
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No need to get your jimmies in a rustle. Personally, I have been scouring the internet for information about emulated sd cards, and have been meddling with the config files to see if I can think of anything. I am not nearly as knowledgeable about the workings of the android system as any of these developers. If we get someone who is genuinely familiar with the configuration of this tablet and software to look at this, then we can have this fixed in a jiffy.
Meanwhile, I'll keep everyone posted if I find a permanent solution...
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After all it has a mega-super-duper-easy fix: Pop in a 1GB (or smaller even!) card and forget about it!
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It's not so much about having or not having an SDCard.
Many of us who make use of SDcards as storage media for entertainment content while away the home on the road would like to be able to swap these cards every so often -- but that would break some of those apps that store their operation data on the external SDcard that gets swapped out.
I use AndroZip. And I am really confused about the different folders..
I included 2 screenshots for this part of my question..
First one.. can someone tell me what those folders mean..
Second picture.. what the heck are all those folders..
Is the actual external SD card one of those folders. I figured it would be the obvious one but I swear I had more stuff in that folder and Its not there...
Is there a way to make the external sd card the default to where all pics and stuff are saved??
Seems I am running out of storage space on my phone already for some reason.
3rd picture is of a screenshot of my storage use.. ridiculous. I dont understand why everything is on my phone and nothing is on the card..
It was worse a few days ago. My phone kept telling me I had no space left.. it was at like
System storge was 15.23gb/16.00gb
Sd card was 2.20gb/29.71gb
Sorry my question is kinda lame. Im just not good at this stuff.
Thanks for your guys help I really appreciate it
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Not sure what all those folders mean, but emulated sd is actually still internal...your "ext sd" is your external sd. when you open your camera for the first time, it should give the option to save all photos to ext sd. If you missed it, you should be able to hit the menu button, go into settings and change it within a secondary settings menu in there. I use es file explorer or astro typically and have never seen all those usb folders. Perhaps you are plugged into a desktop?
Mount Points
For whatever reason, the Galaxy S4 has many, many mount points for its emulated SD Card. If you're rooted, the actual path to it is "/data/media/0/"
However, the folders in the first picture are ALL paths to your internal or emulated SD Card. sdcard0, ext_sdcard, emulated, legacy, etc.
In the second picture, those look like pre-created mount points for... multiple flash drives? Either way, no reason to worry about them unless you somehow manage to plug up about 7 flash drives or SD Cards to your device.
And as for the space issue... That really is a good question. Factory resetting is never out of the question if you're up for it, however, assuming you're not, the only explanation I could come up with is just a ton of apps with big extra files. Like Minecraft, Call of Duty Black Ops Zombies, Temple Run 2.
Hope I helped, sorry if I didn't. I'm new to Android this year, so I haven't thoroughly looked at all of the quirky stuff it tends to do, but your data usage has to be from something, and if it's not from stuff you put on your emulated SD Card, it has to be from big apps or malware, assuming you didn't tamper with anything in a root file explorer. Are you sure you haven't messed around and copied files to some directory you thought was the emulated SD?
As far as the internal storage, the OS and "most" of your downloaded apps will go here, unless you use foldermount ("move to sd" only moves part of the file). Anyways, I have about 60 apps on my phone and am running hyperdrive and have about the same amount of internal storage left as you. After formatting and whatnot, the device does not have 16gb internal memory...it's more like 11 or 12. Before I was running hyperdrive and was just stock rooted, on that same screen as your 3rd picture, it showed me that I had 9.82gb of internal memory TOTAL, but I had way less used (I currently have no more or no less than I did then, but shows I have 8.23gb out of 16, instead of the 3.9gb out of 9.82 it used to show). Most of which is under "miscellaneous" files and when you go in there to see whats actually there via phone settings, you can't really see what's using all the space. You really need to be rooted and use root explorer (or similar) to see whats using all the storage.