CM7 Support to MHL? - TouchPad General

Hello;
I would like to know if CM7 supports MHL in the Touchpad.
I'm very interested in use an adaptor like that the following http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-HDMI-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy-S2-II-i9100-HTC-G14-EA512-/200683203221?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb9a6aa95.
Anyone has tried it? I think that could be the solution to connect our Touchpad to the TV.
Thank you.

AFAIK, it is not supported yet. Support for MHL was supposed to come with the WebOS 3.0.4 update but I have yet to find anyone that said it was possible (after the update). Hopefully with WebOS being open source now more features will come to the TP.

I bought this one for my Galaxy S II:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/view...=0&nav=WON&nid=26053575619&trxId=184327932026
It was a little more: $11, but shipped from the US, so it arrived in 3 business days.
If I remember I will try when I get home tonight. I already tried the USB OTG cable, and it didn't work in webOS, but I didn't try in android.
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Usb otg kabel from galaxy s2 works with an usb y-kabel for external power, like this
http://www.amazon.de/Delock-Power-A...VMIU/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1324493658&sr=8-3
I have test it on cm7 xron with usb stick fat32.
Ntfs doesn't work
Mhl adapter from galaxy s2 doesn't work on cm7.
On webos i will test it soon.
Edit: on webos 3.0.4 mhl adapter also not work
G ehmi

I don't understand the benefit of a OTG adapter if you also need to have a computer or power supply with you. For me the OTG adapter was to be used "On The Go", and lugging a computer doesn't make it any more useful than just plugging the touchpad into the computer, and the storage into the computer, then transfer the files using the computer.
For keyboard and mouse, how is having a power supply and two cables more useful than Bluetooth peripherals?
I can see this as a proof of concept, but don't see how you can get actual convienence out of a setup requiring a power source and extra cable.
I don't understand why HP would put half the supporting hardware in there. If it cant be utilized in CM 7 without power supplied doesn't that mean its hardware, not software holding it back?
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For the MHL adapter, it would be nice if my TV was MHL compliant (don't need the external power adapter for compliant TVs), but a TV isn't a portable device, so where ever my TV is, I should have power.
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Any news of supporting MHL in WebOS 3.0.5?

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[Q] MHL cable compatability?

I just found a MHL cable for the SGS2 on Amazon with Micro-USB to HDMI.
I have a Samsung HDTV bought about a year ago. Now i know that MHL means you can charge as well as view the phone stuff on the screen but MHL TVs have not released yet (i think, and even if they have i wont be getting one anytime soon).
So my question is can i still see the TV out if i use the MHL cable on my older TV? I know it definitely wont charge.
Anyone?? :S
yes you can.
all you need is the adapter from MHL (micro-USB) to HDMI, connect the HDMI to the TV and you are good to go.
the advantage of the original samsung adapter is the ability to connect a power cable to the adaptor and charge the phone while it transmits the picture to the TV.
hope i helped
Thanks mate
For anyone confused, an MHL cable is a Micro USB to HDMI cable - no ifs, no buts, this will transmit HDMI from a compatible MHL port. Nothing else needed (except I believe it must also be connected to power)
Your micro USB port on the bottom of your SGS2 is an MHL/USB port, and will therefore work.
Important to note is that not all micro USB ports are also MHL ports, therefore will not necessarily work on some other micro USB port on a different phone.

[Q] hdmi out and usb on-the-go?

has anyone tried using an mhl adapter for hdmi out from the jetstream? what about usb on-the-go?
a124 said:
has anyone tried using an mhl adapter for hdmi out from the jetstream? what about usb on-the-go?
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I have a MHL for my samsung infuse, maybe i will give it a shot later... I am assuming there is some sort of support as the jetstream has a modified microusb connector. It can support a regular microusb cable but it also takes a cable with an extra 5th pin for something... must be some sort of other dock or cables coming out for it.
MHL does work. I used the "universal" MHL adapter that T-Mobile US stores sell and it worked once I plugged in a 1 amp phone charger. MHL adapters require micro USB power in, and I found that less than an amp didn't work. But the HTC Sensation and LG Thrill chargers did the trick. I have a video of it in action in our Jetstream review:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/HTC-Jetstream.htm
The device lists USB external storage under the storage applet. But I had no luck using a USB OTG cable (the Motorola Xoom optional cable). It didn't see flash drives, mice or keyboards. I've asked HTC PR about USB host, but it's taking a long time for them to get me an answer.
btw... the MHL adapter that came with my Samsung Infuse also worked with the Jetstream as long as i had the charger plugged into the MHL adapter, couldn't power itself on its own.
- Dan

[Q] Does it come with a MHL adapter to connect to HDMI?

On the t-moibile site, under features for the phone, it lists:
MHL adaptor for HDMI capability
Does it come with such an adapter out of the box? I'm interested in using it to connect a usb card-reader to it so I can easily copy photos from my camera.
badbob001 said:
On the t-moibile site, under features for the phone, it lists:
MHL adaptor for HDMI capability
Does it come with such an adapter out of the box? I'm interested in using it to connect a usb card-reader to it so I can easily copy photos from my camera.
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No, I it doesn't come with one in the box. In fact, I it was publicized that no other adapters aside from the official Samsung one would be compatible with the phone because Samsung changed the pin layout for the GSiii.
No, but I found one on Ebay that works great and a lot cheaper to boot!
Edit : Wait...I bought one for my SGSII...I assumed it would work with the SGSIII, but perhaps I'm wrong! I'll have to test it and report back!
I wish. I checked then out online and they are like $40. It seems like way to much to just hook it up to my tv, and then the samsung car mount/charger is another $50. it seems like samsung is going the way of apple. at least apple gives you a dock when you buy a phone.
Don't worry. Third party accessories will catch up soon enough. That is lousy of them to charge so much for such a piddly little adapter.
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just buy a USB OTG (on the go, or host usb) adapter if your just looking to transfer files from a card reader, the MHL adapter is primarily for video output, not input
I just got 2 USB host adapters from the link below for less than $3 shipped....also below is a video from android.NZ that shows all the crap we can plug into this beast of a phone
As for MHL Adapter compatibility, it will ONLY work with 11-pin MHL adapters, Most are 5-pin
USB OTG adapter

[Q] MHL cable and OTG cable

If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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anyone?
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According to some of wikipedia entries it should be possible to use mhl and usb otg at the same time with a 11-pin mhl-hdmi adapter.
Wikipedia said:
11-pin MHL-USB Connector
The Samsung Galaxy S III uses a connector that is similar to the original 5-pin MHL-USB connector, but it uses 11-pins in order to achieve a few functional improvements over the 5-pin design.
It supports the use of USB and MHL simultaneously (note that the new Samsung 11-pin MHL-HDMI adapter also has a USB-OTG port).
Samsung’s Galaxy S III can power the MHL-HDMI adapter. Although this can theoretically also be done with the standard 5-pin micro-USB connector, the Galaxy S III's 11-pin connector is believed to be the first smartphone that supports this functionality.
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Here you go.
So, it should work. But I couldnt make it work at the moment
I also got one of these 11-pin connectors and like it seems only the S3 has these adapters, so why the **** doesnt it work?? :/
I already asked sammy on facebook, just wondering what they will answer^^
Hopefully we will have some pos. results, dude.
cheers
bordikun said:
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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How would that work since the micro USB connection on the mhl cable is for power / charger?
In those YouTube videos is it possible that they have the mhl cable connected to the TV and power source, and the keyboard and mouse connected wirelessly via Bluetooth?
Confused because you said USB Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. From what I know they aren't USB.
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Samsung should eventually release a dock to use both so unless someone figures it out first you'll just have to wait, because if it just took an 11 pin USB cable someone would have got it working already and we'd know about it, so I reckon it might have some extra circuitry to make it recognised by the phone.
Guys, as I already posted, the connector has 11 pins, so it should be possible to use OTG and MHL features at the same time. thats the only reason sammy brought out this connector and also cause of incompability with the 5-pin connector.
So they should bring the f*ck out somethin for the phone that activates this feature.
And a big problem I have with my mhl-connector is that I cant configure the output
on my 2 TVs at home I get 1080i, (both only 1080i capable), but the picture is kinda oversized so I cant see 100% percent of the picture, only 90% or smt like this.
But the funny part is, that I get on my 1680x1050p PC monitor only 576p screen, what actually sucks So it would be awesome if I could choose the resolution I want to have. But I guess its a thing of the connector (maybe it choose the resolutions iself).
cheers
so the one in the videos using keyboard and mouse are bluetooth thru phone?
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I am SO HARD waiting for THAT "DOCK" hopefully will came out any day soon.
They should do iut fast. I'm waiting so hard for everything get connected with my Phone. It will be awsome if I don't need my Pc anymore.
To use the MHL cable you must have power connected to the adapter.
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bordikun said:
If you connect the MHL cable to the device and the OTG cable to the MHL cable the device can't detect the OTG cable.
How can I make this work? I've seen videos in youtube that they connect their device to the TV at the same they have USB bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected.
Anyone tried using MHL cable and OTG cable at the same time?
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That's damn funny because I have wanted to know whether that would work as well, lol.
Did seriously consider trying but as I was on holiday if they broke, I wouldn't be able to get replacement so didn't try it.
In theory I would think it could work, but only if you could somehow wire in power to the hdmi adapter as it appears to need that to run the hdmi aswell as provide power to the phone, at least enough that once the usb adapter tries to demand power to run it isn't enough for the phone to output.
As to whether this is just a a stupid guess and assumption of how the devices and being a noob, I don't know.
If you can get a micro female to male adapter with a usb splitter for power then technically I can't see why it wouldn't work if the limitations are physical as oppose to software based (whole other issue I have no clue about).
EDIT: Wow, when I started that post no one had replied, err, seems a little redundant now, lol. My bad. Also, this 5 minute wait to point this out, have seemed really long...
guess we'll have to wait for that dock.
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[Q] 11 Pin MHL + USB OTG

Hey there, i have tried gathering information about this subject and it seems all threads always lead to this announcement:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Short: Samsung have changed to an 11 Pin-out to enable USB OTG and MHL Hdmi out at the same time. I purchased an original HDTV Adapter (EPL-3FHUBEGSTD) which as far as i can reliably count indeed has about 11 connectors inside the USB connector that goes into the phone.
Now, i can get HDMI out just fine, but ONLY when i also connect the MHL adapter to a power source (a PC USB Port will do fine), however i have also read, that the phone is able to power the MHL adapter itself but obviously would not be charged then (no surprises there). This does not work however.
Further, connecting a USB OTG cable to the micro usb port on the MHL adapter does nothing. No notification and no devices connecting. No power either, since the LED on my USB Hub does not light up as it should. Connecting any devices to the hub does nothing to change that situation. If i leave out the MHL adapter and connect the USB OTG cable directly to the phone, everything works perfectly. I have tried this with 2 different OTG cables so they are not the problem.
This is an original genuine HDTV Adapter for our phones, which according to that post should be working fine with USB OTG.
AFAIK, this topic --does-- come up more frequently now as i can find a few more discussions about it, albeit none really helpful:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-of-11-pin-mhl-connector-in-samsung-galaxy-s3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743128
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803079
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#11-pin_MHL-USB_Connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
That wiki entry is the most interesting link as it definitely states that using MHL and USB OTG simultaneously is possible and is also the reason why the 5 pin layout was changed to an 11 Pin layout.
Looking forward to reading your replies!
the ability to use MHL and OTG simultaneously would give the S3 so much more purpose. It is powerful enough to replace a desktop computer used only for light stuff like browsing and watching videos, and even simple gaming. If samsung made a dock like the one for the motorola atrix I'm convinced they will broaden their target group. The atrix got everything right with this but is inferior hardware wise. I love the idea of a one device for everything concept. Unfortunately it doesn't rhyme very well with the growth society.
Love the MHL and the OTG is even better only after I got the correct cables as the cables changed on S3 to the S2 version, unlimited space for watching films on my phone is now awesome and even better connecting it to to the TV just need a good dock,
is there perhaps any expert advise on this? According to multiple sources it should work but really doesnt. Did i buy the wrong mhl adapter?
I think they will only both work together when being used with an MHL enabled tv. That way the power comes from the tv and the usb on the adapter can be used for the usb-otg cable.
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But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
joysleep said:
But if i connected the MHL with the s3. Would sound come out of my phone AND my TV or just my TV. If it justs comes out of my TV, then can i hook up my bluetooth headphones and listen to my video or it would not allow me?
Thanks
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I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
mertzi said:
I think you already got a reply in the other thread on this, you should use subscriptions.
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It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
joysleep said:
It wasnt clear.
No1 knows the actual answer to this questions. Really frustraing
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Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
mertzi said:
Ah ok sorry! Afaik you should be able to choose your headphones as primary audio source in the bluetooth settings. I know I can choose what I want to be output to my bluetooth headset, but I don't own an MHL adapter so I don't know about that. Someone with one should be able to try it, and if they don't own a bluetooth headset/pair of headphones they could try with wired ones and see what happens.
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I have recently received an MHL connector (5 pin type) and the samsung 11 to 5 pin adapter for it. I can confirm that if I plug my OTG cable into it, and then into my powered USB hub, I can get the MHL to work just fine, both video and audio. The OTG cable powers it just fine, but does NOT allow me to use other devices attached to the USB hub.
I am still researching. I suspect you need to bring all 11 pins off the phone with a splitter of some sort, or possibly wire data lines through the MHL. Probably not with the 5 pin MHL connector and 11 to 5 pin adapter, but with the full 11 pin MHL adapter. I am not up to that level of hardware hacking. I suspect whoever does it first can sell a BUNCH of them!
Oh, and I have a Moto Lapdock for my Raspberry Pi, and would love to hook my S3 to it too!
Scott

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