Now that we have at least 3 ROMs out for the TouchPad, including CM7 A3.5, XRON VB2.6, and MIUI 2.37B, I've thought it might be useful for some if I post the results of, IMHO, my comprehensive benchmarking.
What I've done is taken each of the ROMs and ran them 10 times against each of the Antutu 2.5, Linpack 1.2.8, and Quadrant 1.1.7 benchmarks on a TouchPad that is not under/overclocked, plugged into the charger, has wifi on but syncing turned off so events like email notifications, etc., don't influence the results. I've then thrown out the highest and lowest scores of each ROM for each of the benchmarks and then averaged the 8 remainder. Finally for each benchmark I've averaged the results for the 3 different ROMs and looked at the percentage difference from the average to see if there are significant quantitative differences between the ROMs and between the benchmarks.
Let me conclude by saying that I've heard and understand the argument against such benchmarking, that may be best characterized in that the benchmarks don't represent everyday use. But since there is, IMHO, no such thing as everyday use or an everyday user, this is probably the best kind of quantitative measure we can hope for.
Finally I'll try to address any generic comments or questions in the OP of this thread so folks won't have to read through multiple postings to get at things of common interest. And, I'll try to provide some generic observations about these results. As I am in the process of trying to finalize the presentation of the results let me know of any thoughts you might have in regards to all this.
Observations: Choosing a ROM
From the strictly raw performance perspective given by the benchmarks, all 3 ROMs perform very similarly so it is difficult to choose by that criterion. Maybe then, it becomes the "qualitative" characteristics of the ROM and or the developer that drive the choice of a particular ROM. By this I mean, for example, maybe you can't or don't want to be confronted with frequent updates, so CM7 is the ROM for you. Or maybe you see a very proactive developer providing the latest tweaks along with a very active following providing even more insight into the capabilities of the ROM, so then XRON is your ROM. Or finally, maybe you like some of the different presentations within MIUI, so your choice is obvious. Of course, none of these characterizations are really that cut and dry between the ROMs, but are only used as examples. The bottom line in my opinion is that we all should be very grateful to all the developers that have provided some very good alternatives for our TPad beyond WebOS.
Interesting to find out the data. Seems like quadrant advanced sucks to see both cores.
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Doesn't Quadrant need wi-fi to get the results?
Maybe enable wi-fi for all three roms as a constant.
Can't wait to see the results.
Krunk_Kracker said:
Doesn't Quadrant need wi-fi to get the results?
Maybe enable wi-fi for all three roms as a constant.
Can't wait to see the results.
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You are correct. Was in the process of rerunning all with wifi on.
Guessing you really liked stat in school haha, be interesting to see results
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Interesting....seems like MIUI is the faster one by a teensy bit.
He posted his results in a pdf download on the bottom of his post btw
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Thanks for doing this! If you plan on continuing to update this thread, may I suggest adding sun spider to the benchmark results as its a good way to compare to other mobile platforms as well? Just a thought.
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Thanks for doing this! If you plan on continuing to update this thread, may I suggest adding sun spider to the benchmark results as its a good way to compare to other mobile platforms as well? Just a thought.
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Thanks for the suggestion and will do. I am intending to keep this thread updated as new ROMs are released or major updates of the existing ROMs occur.
Thanks thats interesting...
Cant wait to see how the ICS roms stack up!
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Thanks thats interesting...
Cant wait to see how the ICS roms stack up!
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Had thought about testing the new XRON rom, but with this largely being a deodex ----> odex version, I believe the largest difference one would see is in bootup times. Once the dalvik cache is fully loaded via odex or deodex the raw performance that the benchmark measures, I believe, should be about the same. If someone has other insights into this I would appreciate hearing them.
Benchmarks for the new CM9 are now being compiled. Results should be up NLT tomorrow.
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What's the general consensus between these ROMs?
ChocolateEclair seems to score higher in benchmarking tests, but VillainROM seems to have more of a following behind it.
Which is more stable, and are there any major problems to note with either?
Thanks!
PS... Still can't wait for my Hero to arrive. 3Store are being stupid and such, so it's taking a long time for it all to go through, but I'll get there eventually!
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What's the general consensus between these ROMs?
ChocolateEclair seems to score higher in benchmarking tests, but VillainROM seems to have more of a following behind it.
Which is more stable, and are there any major problems to note with either?
Thanks!
PS... Still can't wait for my Hero to arrive. 3Store are being stupid and such, so it's taking a long time for it all to go through, but I'll get there eventually!
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If I'm not mistaken, chocolateeclair is a vanilla ROM, which means it lacks many of the HTC sense user interface elements. But this also makes it faster, as HTC sense consumes some resources.
VillainROM is a full Sense ROM, so it has all the HTC apps and visuals etc, although it sometimes appears slower on benchmarks.
But either way, if you install SetCPU and overclock to a sensible level, (and even without overclocking), both will be sufficiently fast that you shouldn't feel any sluggishness or lag in either.
I am sure others can clarify the differences beyond my thinking it's vanilla vs. sense
I haven't tried ChocolateEclair yet. Though I have to say based upon recent benchmarks I'd love to try it out.
It is true that VillainROM does have a greater following and they also have a developed team working on bug fixes and assistance with any issues which may crop up.
Personally i'd try both if I were you. Spend a week or so on each one and decide then.
As for major problems, you'll have to read up on that. In all honesty there will probably be a few minor issues with each one, it just depends on whether those issues affect you or not. As i said there is no better way to find out than through personal experience.
Enjoy.
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If I'm not mistaken, chocolateeclair is a vanilla ROM
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Hehe, unfortunately you are mistaken VanillaEclair is the vanilla rom made by the same user. ChocolateEclair is his sense alternative, through it also comes with LauncherPro.
I have no idea how he has customized it to be so fast (particularly on boot time) but as I said i'm intrigued.
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I haven't tried ChocolateEclair yet. Though I have to say based upon recent benchmarks I'd love to try it out.
It is true that VillainROM does have a greater following and they also have a developed team working on bug fixes and assistance with any issues which may crop up.
Personally i'd try both if I were you. Spend a week or so on each one and decide then.
As for major problems, you'll have to read up on that. In all honesty there will probably be a few minor issues with each one, it just depends on whether those issues affect you or not. As i said there is no better way to find out than through personal experience.
Enjoy.
Hehe, unfortunately you are mistaken VanillaEclair is the vanilla rom made by the same user. ChocolateEclair is his sense alternative, through it also comes with LauncherPro.
I have no idea how he has customized it to be so fast (particularly on boot time) but as I said i'm intrigued.
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LOL. That just proves there's now too many similar sounding ROMs
Is it odexed or deodexed? That could be a contributing factor to boot speed, certainly first boot. I know also that VillainROM will zipalign any unaligned apps, which speeds up the ROM in use, but it might slow down boot if you install any unaligned apps which would slow it down in the first place.
But yeah, I think i'm getting pretty badly confused now between roms. Usually roms with eclair in their name are vanilla, dunno why...
Right okay. So it's really just a case of pick and choose then.
I'm guessing that it's basically choosing between a little bit of speed and a little bit of stability, alongside the differences in feature-sets?
Also, being a complete and utter n00b, could you tell me what "odexed", "deodexed' and "zipalign" mean?
And another, somewhat unrelated question is: how does battery life cope, standard and with a custom ROM? Surely it can't be worse than the damned one-day-only battery in my iPhone.
I'm already impressed by Android, just because of how hackable it is. Can't wait to get started!
If I am not mistaking, villainrom has done some nice things to make the rom customisable, for instance control over the sense interface.
In terms of speed and stability on the other hand, VR "loses" from ChocolateEclair (v2.0 by now), which is just blazing fast and stable.
Now ultimately, if Villainrom and ChocolateEclair could date, merry and get children... You would most likely have the unchallenged ultimate Sense rom for the HTC Hero .
And ehhh, do you really want to know what those terms mean? It think this link here will help you a lot ...
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If I am not mistaking, villainrom has done some nice things to make the rom customisable, for instance control over the sense interface.
In terms of speed and stability on the other hand, VR "loses" from ChocolateEclair (v2.0 by now), which is just blazing fast and stable.
Now ultimately, if Villainrom and ChocolateEclair could date, merry and get children... You would most likely have the unchallenged ultimate Sense rom for the HTC Hero .
And ehhh, do you really want to know what those terms mean? It think this link here will help you a lot ...
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Flash this over VR12 and you will get your wish:
http://villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1928&p=20327
Slick response, I like it!
Well timed too, exactly at the moment I find a problem in my current installation . Still though, VillainRom... Still reminds me of batteryproblems and other small problems...
I'll give it a thought though.
Or shall we go for the experiment... FroyoVillain is just released
Hi all.. erasmux the file says that has been removed.. where can i find it??
thanks!!
I'm still running the original stock VZW/HTC ROM. I know, I know, slow adopter... I'd like to root and go with a ROM that delivers better battery life and a basic debloat. However, nearly every ROM I read about seems to have a major (in my humble opinion) flaw. A non working camera or video camera, non working voicemail notification, malfunctioning signal strength bars, no 4G, etc., etc.
Is my only choice really a Froyo ROM? I'm not willing to stomach any major loss of functionality (or apps), be it phone, camera, calendar, GPS, navigation, various google apps, Bluetooth, WiFi, 3G and 4G, working signal strength bars, etc. I guess I am also in the "I prefer Sense" group but also have not given non Sense ROMs any time.
If responding I kindly request a few sentences of explanation/clarification rather than just saying "Get ROM X, it rocks, it is the best". Thanks in advance.
Everything works on most the gb roms, with some needing certain fixes to fix certain things. Gingeritis 3d, with chingys new radio is tits imho
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Well, I'm not going to give you a few sentences, but I can tell you that I use Gingerth3ory (link in my siggy) and everything works, including vvm as long as you apply the bootable zip fix for that. Before, vvm was the only thing not working.
Camera, videocamera, wifi, 3g, 4g all work. I switched to youmail for vvm because I wanted netflix over stock vvm so that meant a GB ROM.
I highly recommend Droid Theory's latest Senseless Rom. This is the smoothest and quickest ROM of his yet and that is saying something. There is a large mod community if you're interested in that. Most importantly, DT is very responsive and provides great support. He will be coming out with an update very soon to fix the market issue.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176922
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187545
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187545
Just showing there's been 3-4 other similar posts in the past few hours, just to avoid fragmenting answers or not getting the answer you wanted.
Just follow my link in my signature.
Synergy is the way to go.
Thanks folks.
OK we have votes for Gingeritis 3d, Gingerth3ory and Droid Theory's latest Senseless Rom. Has anyone ran more than one of these? Any important compare/contrast between them? I care much more about stability and battery life over eye candy. Those are my top 2 concerns. If those things are improved over the stock VZW/HTC ROM I should be happy. The biggest problems with this stock ROM for me are maintaining a data connection when switching from 3G to 4G and back. Also the speed of the GPS lock is very slow. How are these things in these recommended ROMs?
(yareally: You posted 2 identical links but mentioned 4 threads. Yes the questions in some of these were related to mine but certainly were not identical request.)
I'm going to venture a guess you haven't actually looked at the threads or the dev's pages. Most have a thread for bug reports. GB ROMs are about as solid as any OTA these days. If you're new to flashing DO NOT, DO NOT use Synergy. It's a frankenstein project with no official stable release and a constant onslaught of nightlies with no end in sight. STAY AWAY FROM NIGHTLIES. Try BAMF. Try Gingeritus. Try Eaton. Try GING3R3DTH3ORY. Try something that's known to work and isn't revised several times a week. From the sounds of it, Eaton might be what you want. It looks and works very much like stock.
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Thanks folks.
OK we have votes for Gingeritis 3d, Gingerth3ory and Droid Theory's latest Senseless Rom. Has anyone ran more than one of these? Any important compare/contrast between them? I care much more about stability and battery life over eye candy. Those are my top 2 concerns. If those things are improved over the stock VZW/HTC ROM I should be happy. The biggest problems with this stock ROM for me are maintaining a data connection when switching from 3G to 4G and back. Also the speed of the GPS lock is very slow. How are these things in these recommended ROMs?
(yareally: You posted 2 identical links but mentioned 4 threads. Yes the questions in some of these were related to mine but certainly were not identical request.)
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last one was a miscopy, there was another one at least on the front page, but I was half asleep at the time. I said 3 to 4 btw, not 4. There have been lots though of rom reccomendation postings though and felt you would get a better idea by reading what other people had asked already.
i'm using Synergy with the "06275r" radio and the dreamKernal. i also have SetCPU on set to "performance". it runs really smooth and the battery life is better then stock.
i've tried pretty much every ROM out there and have had this running for several days now. i like it and will keep it for a tad bit longer(why just a tad? i can't help it.. i like to keep trying new ROM's)
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If you're new to flashing DO NOT, DO NOT use Synergy. It's a frankenstein project with no official stable release and a constant onslaught of nightlies with no end in sight. STAY AWAY FROM NIGHTLIES....Try something that's known to work and isn't revised several times a week.
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I have to disagree. Just because Synergy is updated every night does not mean you must flash reflash every day. The nightlies have very minor revisions (adding HTC Car Panel, changing the host file for better ad blocking, changing the Market icon color, changing the email splash screen, etc). If you don't need the newest revisions, then don't flash the latest nightly until something comes along that you really want/need. Synergy nightlies aren't released because it is an unstable rom. Quite the contrary. I have tried roms from 4 other devs and Synergy is the fastest & smoothest of them all. The only time I've had lockups or reboots is when I overclocked too much, which would have happened on any rom.
Don't be dissuaded from trying Synergy because there are nightly updates. If anything, that should tell you the devs are committed to making it better.
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I have to disagree. Just because Synergy is updated every night does not mean you must flash reflash every day. The nightlies have very minor revisions (adding HTC Car Panel, changing the host file for better ad blocking, changing the Market icon color, changing the email splash screen, etc). If you don't need the newest revisions, then don't flash the latest nightly until something comes along that you really want/need. Synergy nightlies aren't released because it is an unstable rom. Quite the contrary. I have tried roms from 4 other devs and Synergy is the fastest & smoothest of them all. The only time I've had lockups or reboots is when I overclocked too much, which would have happened on any rom.
Don't be dissuaded from trying Synergy because there are nightly updates. If anything, that should tell you the devs are committed to making it better.
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I don't agree with that and I'll tell you why. Let's say I tell Joe Bob to go try synergy. He does, and downloads who knows what on whatever night. Then he has a problem... Now what? Try to decipher Ziggy's advice? Try another nightly version? As far as I'm concerned nightlies are for developers. I think that because that been the whole point of nightlies from the beginning. I'm pretty sure CM was the first, but even they did that in support of a release candidate aiming towards an official release. I wouldn't tell someone "Go try a CM nightly!" even if they were looking mostly solid. I've read almost all of the thread for synergy. It's hardly a work without error. I don't believe that project is dedicated to producing reliable ROMs. They show no sign of such in any form, be it a release candidate or a final release. It appears to be a few developers tinkering and experimenting, in many cases against the law, and I cannot in good faith suggest someone fresh on the scene jump into one of the most convoluted ROMs for the Thunderbolt.
I've been using nightlies for INC and they've all been stable for the past several months. They just keep adding features. At first it sort of bugged me that I never had the most updated version but then I just lived with staying with my version for several months until I got bored enough to flash the latest.
If nightlies isn't your thing then that's fine but I don't see a reason to tell other users to stay away from them. Generally they *will* have more bugs because the dev's don't thoroughly check the ROM's before they release - they expect the people who flash to find the bugs and then they fix it in the next releases, but after a while all those bugs are gone- then they move to adding a new feature and that may have a bug, and the cycle continues.
But in most cases these bugs are very minor and overall the ROM is superior in performance / battery / features than other ROM's.
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I've been using nightlies for INC and they've all been stable for the past several months. They just keep adding features. At first it sort of bugged me that I never had the most updated version but then I just lived with staying with my version for several months until I got bored enough to flash the latest.
If nightlies isn't your thing then that's fine but I don't see a reason to tell other users to stay away from them. Generally they *will* have more bugs because the dev's don't thoroughly check the ROM's before they release - they expect the people who flash to find the bugs and then they fix it in the next releases, but after a while all those bugs are gone- then they move to adding a new feature and that may have a bug, and the cycle continues.
But in most cases these bugs are very minor and overall the ROM is superior in performance / battery / features than other ROM's.
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Please read what I wrote. I would not tell a NEW user to try a nightly. That would be stupid. The last thing some virgin flasher needs is to flash some nightly that got some new test kernel cooked into and its quirky as hell, or some jazz like that. We ALL wanted our first flash to work and not freeze or crash. I'm telling a NEW user to stay away from nightlies, not the experienced guy. I don't care how stable one night's version might be, or if almost all of them are. They are test beds and you don't know what you're getting night to night. And NO nightly I've ever used has been quirk-free.
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Please read what I wrote. I would not tell a NEW user to try a nightly. That would be stupid. The last thing some virgin flasher needs is to flash some nightly that got some new test kernel cooked into and its quirky as hell, or some jazz like that. We ALL wanted our first flash to work and not freeze or crash. I'm telling a NEW user to stay away from nightlies, not the experienced guy. I don't care how stable one night's version might be, or if almost all of them are. They are test beds and you don't know what you're getting night to night. And NO nightly I've ever used has been quirk-free.
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Well.. I've had plenty quirk-free. But the Incredible nightlies are more polished than the thunderbolts.
I think you shouldn't tell them not to flash a nightly, just warn them of possible issues and explain to them what they are (and they would see this anyway because every nightly thread I've been to explains this)
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Well.. I've had plenty quirk-free. But the Incredible nightlies are more polished than the thunderbolts.
I think you shouldn't tell them not to flash a nightly, just warn them of possible issues and explain to them what they are (and they would see this anyway because every nightly thread I've been to explains this)
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if someone is starting a thread like this, reading threads probably ain't in their game plan. I don't give advice to strangers I wouldn't give to a friend. You run something like a version of BAMF and you're running something a dev has hung his hat on. Not so with a nightly because there will be another tomorrow night! Telling a noob to try a nightly, regardless of stability, is like telling your kid to learn to drive behind the wheel of a Kenworth. If something goes wrong, its going to become a bigger deal than it would be if the guy had flashed 2 or 3 ROMs. This seems real obvious to me. Are you forgetting your first experience rooting and flashing ROMs? I'm not gonna warn someone of the dangers of doing something I consider stupid. I will say "If you want to do something stupid, go flash a nightly for your first ROM. If your LUCKY it will all work right. If it doesn't, go fly a kite because you're own your own, bro."
Thanks for the further comments. Let's not try to get too side tracked on one ROM with many nightlies. I definitely prefer to steer clear of a ROM with nightlies. I'd like to let others do all that valuable beta testing and simply benefit from their work. Selfish - sure but uncommon - no.
Just to clarify some personal details that may help with recommendations. I've read many of the posts here from the devs themselves on their ROMs. However, slogging through hundreds of pages on a small handful of ROMs is not my idea of fun... I'm quite computer/phone literate but have not done programming in years. I also work in the software industry. After years of crappy and unstable WinMo devices and plenty of random freezes, resets and data loss, I've found a pretty nice new home with Android. I'm not afraid to experiment, trouble shoot, etc. However, I want a phone to USE much more than to constantly tinker, repair, troubleshoot, etc. I'd like a really mature, stable bulletproof ROM along with the ability to have GB and keep Sense. It is incredibly difficult for me to read the oftentimes massive features lists on the first page of any given ROM thread and distinguish it from other competing offerings. Despite being pretty computer literate, most of those pages are nearly entirely "greek" to me.
Perhaps there is no single best ROM or recommendation but I am going to continue to read all the replies here and hopefully get my choice narrowed down. Of course I realize no ROM choice is permanent. I'll just say again I like to USE my device rather than constantly "tinker".
Cheers.
InfuseTh3ory ... Try it.
Since you like Sense then check out Gingeritis
http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=271
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gingertheory is a nice solid build that I've been running the last couple of weeks. No big deal breakers as far as bugs.
We dont allow "whats the best rom?" or "tell me what to run next" threads as it becomes a popularity contest because every phone is different, so you need to try them all and see what you like and what runs best for you.
There are already several threads about which roms and kernels people are running, perhaps that may give you a clue... but you need to try them out on your phone.
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Yeah, I get that, and wasn't intending to do something that wasn't allowed...
So, allow me to take it in a new direction, please -
With plenty of AT&T i777's out there, why do people seem to get different results by seemingly doing the same thing? You say try it on my phone, and I'd hazard a guess that many have done what I did, yet I saw very few people with the same problems. What are the possible variances?
This is general not question and answer...
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Thanks... I'm still feeling my way around here... obviously. Guess I gotta figure out how the forums work before I can learn how to make my phone work better.
Apology accepted.
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Yeah, I get that, and wasn't intending to do something that wasn't allowed...
So, allow me to take it in a new direction, please -
With plenty of AT&T i777's out there, why do people seem to get different results by seemingly doing the same thing? You say try it on my phone, and I'd hazard a guess that many have done what I did, yet I saw very few people with the same problems. What are the possible variances?
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There's about 20 different things that can vary, not counting user's perspective.
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There's about 20 different things that can vary, not counting user's perspective.
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For instance, whether you're in space, or underwater really determines which kernel or ROM works for you. Some people around here say the real place everything varies is on an isolated island with no food or water, just ice skates and a volleyball and your phone with whatever ROM + kernel combo you're using.
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Wiilllssooonnn!!!!
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Lol
Many things differ. Im far too intoxicated to go in depth, but download a few roms yourself and inspect them. Compare them together and read their logs. You'll really learn a lot by researching in depth.
Different ROMS run differently on every phone. you've gotta find the one that just 'feels' right.
Hope that somewhat answered your question lol
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I suppose there might be differences depending on what batch your phone was made in. If you look in certain threads, a majority of users might have no problems while a couple have major problems. One time, everyone was having issues with a certain patch, but I found it to run absolutely perfect on my phone.
It's like the battery threads where everyone compares their stock battery. Some people get better batteries than the average, and some get worse batteries.
I try ROMs until I find one that works well for me; I then stick with it until I get bored again.
You will also find that some modem/radios work better in different parts of the country. Also, different kennels may be set up to handle different loads & tasks, meaning that the apps you like to run may play better with kernel "A", but with my setup I might get better performance with kernel "B". People use their phones in vastly different ways, hence, the different user experience.
Example, my wife and I both have this phone but with different ROMS. I put the same kernel on both phones though because i was getting great battery life with it. However, she's not getting near the screen-on time I am because she uses it much differently than i do...she's a chick...Facebook is the devil. Hope this helps some. Just have fun, that's part of the Android experience.
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You will also find that some modem/radios work better in different parts of the country. Also, different kennels may be set up to handle different loads & tasks, meaning that the apps you like to run may play better with kernel "A", but with my setup I might get better performance with kernel "B". People use their phones in vastly different ways, hence, the different user experience.
Example, my wife and I both have this phone but with different ROMS. I put the same kernel on both phones though because i was getting great battery life with it. However, she's not getting near the screen-on time I am because she uses it much differently than i do...she's a chick...Facebook is the devil. Hope this helps some. Just have fun, that's part of the Android experience.
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DITTO! That's hit the nail on the head. All ROMs are different from each other. Even the ones that the same team make (persay) with 2 different versions of the ROM (based on my experience with other phone ROMs). What you will use will depends on which ROM you will select in the long run. For the best performance, battery life, etc... You'll have to decide what you wants out of the ROM then select the one that can handle the tasks that you do.
Just like a personal computer, you could take two identical PCs and depending on the user apps installed and the customizations made by the users they will not perform identically. They will still look the same, but one may not be configured the way the other user prefers it. As the PCs get more use they will change based on user input and configuration. These phones are much the same. A ROM is a very personal choice and while it may look the same on two phones, the way it works is highly dependant upon how the user sets it up, how the use interacts with it, and what apps the user installs. That's why there really is no best ROM, only the ROM that best suits you. Finding it, unfortunately, rquires some personal trial and error to see what works best. No one can tell you what will work best for you.
Apparently increases the speed of the device by simply blocking on read of /dev/random...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032&nocache=1
i am!
According to this it doesn't work on ICS or higher
https://pay.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/15w1qi/fix_90_of_lags_in_android_needs_root/
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According to this it doesn't work on ICS or higher
https://pay.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/15w1qi/fix_90_of_lags_in_android_needs_root/
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well, according to this, it does:
"Update!
Version 1.1 attached. This version uses the release signature, so you will need to uninstall the old XDA version first!
This version fixes the issue some users were seeing on later Jellybean ROMs, where the UI would misreport the RNG service status.
Note that this APK is actually compatible with all Android versions, and all (armel) devices. It's not at all specific to the Captivate Glide.'
This was in the link. The OP from this link wrote that^
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/entropy-seed-generator-not-all-its-hacked-up-to-be/
IDK, it would be nice if it's true. Maybe someone with a DNA can give it a shot.
I've been running it for a few days, no real benefit. I thought it was working better at first but I'm pretty sure after a few days that it was just placebo.
How was your battery life?
Only the older member will remember this...
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Reminds me of the days when people would run 386to486.exe and claimed it was making their crappy 386 run faster. It was just a simple program that would sleep and spit some text out saying it was improving your computer while not doing anything at all, but people swore their system was faster!
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Hi all. Had my SII for a long time now (since release). Just gave it to my girlfriend, and the nexus ROM I had on it keeps crashing in random ways. For example, stock keyboard stopped working completely, and kept forcing the force close popup. I'm just looking for a stable ROM for texting, talking, taking photos, and Facebook. This isn't a best ROM question, just a good, stable ROM with decent battery life. Thanks all.
chrisphoenix7 said:
Hi all. Had my SII for a long time now (since release). Just gave it to my girlfriend, and the nexus ROM I had on it keeps crashing in random ways. For example, stock keyboard stopped working completely, and kept forcing the force close popup. I'm just looking for a stable ROM for texting, talking, taking photos, and Facebook. This isn't a best ROM question, just a good, stable ROM with decent battery life. Thanks all.
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Shostock 3 was solid for me. Im running the ported version of pacman now from iconrunner and it's very good. But if you want a solid, no frills, stable, great battery for her, Sho3is my pick. Not alot of customization like pac/ aokp but it's awesome i tell you.
Sent from my second to last galaxy
Pacman 22.2
Sti Kernel 2.38
This is exactly like a best Rom thread. Any Rom we have on these forums is likely to be stable.
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chrisphoenix7 said:
Hi all. Had my SII for a long time now (since release). Just gave it to my girlfriend, and the nexus ROM I had on it keeps crashing in random ways. For example, stock keyboard stopped working completely, and kept forcing the force close popup. I'm just looking for a stable ROM for texting, talking, taking photos, and Facebook. This isn't a best ROM question, just a good, stable ROM with decent battery life. Thanks all.
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My Recommendation for a high stability rom, with V good battery life (although that will always vary with how it is used) is Shostock3. Moreover, Shoman94's XDA thread for SHOSTOCK3 is very informative, positive, and reflects a wide range of user and Dev experience and insights.
Good Luck!
Shostock3 is where its at. Touchwiz has some awesome features and Shoman pretty much perfected them.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda app-developers app
Agreed SHOstock is solid but Tasks and Goldie's ROM are also solid players. But agreed this is a vs thread and will most likely get shut down. Try them for yourself and see what works best for you.
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redux -this is a valid question
chrisphoenix7 said:
Hi all. Had my SII for a long time now (since release). Just gave it to my girlfriend, and the nexus ROM I had on it keeps crashing in random ways. For example, stock keyboard stopped working completely, and kept forcing the force close popup. I'm just looking for a stable ROM for texting, talking, taking photos, and Facebook. This isn't a best ROM question, just a good, stable ROM with decent battery life. Thanks all.
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After re-reading the comments on this thread, I would like to add a post with an additional perspective.
I appreciate that some will not agree with the following --and I respect their differing opinions. It is important that they express their views so that we all have a balanced range of views to consider (especially the mods, if they read this thread )
Anyway, I would like to support the OP in his/her question or search for an answer:
- The OP question, and most responses to it, seem to me to reflect a qualitative difference from the typical "what's the best rom"? question. Here is why I say this:
- "Best rom" questions typically (but not exclusively) are characterized by a variety of assertions or declarations about a rom (or several roms), where the respondents assert characteristics that make a particular rom *superior* to all other roms.
- This OP's question, as posed and even noted by the OP, seeks only selected, specific datapoints, or feedback on specific characteristics or criteria. The poster seeks stability and reliability (not defined in detail) information for available SG2 i777 roms. [His focused concern (since he gave the phone to his girlfriend!) is real!]
- This is a specific and limited scope question. It is not an open-ended "best rom," solicitation. It seeks input that differs materially from that "best-rom" type of question. In this regard, the difference between the two questions is clear.
-Most replies here do address the specific question, and do not comment on the excellence or the superiority of one rom over all roms. That also highlights the distinction between his question and the "best rom" question.
An aside here, or additional comment, is that those of us who flash many roms over the days, weeks, and months of changes and (rom) developments do see variation in performance among the differing roms. It would not be an honest reflection of XDA to suggest that all roms on XDA are equally stable or equally reliable.
Therefore, soliciting feedback on rom stability or reliability, especially in the Q&A section, should not be deemed inappropriate, or viewed as a surrogate attempt at a "best rom" face-off.
Hope this can help keep the questioning (& answering) process alive!
Good Luck
Looks to me like he got his answer, and I tend to agree that Shostock is probably the most stable rom I have run. I haven't run the latest but the previous 2 or 3 have run flawless, and I can't recall a single random reboot on any of them much less ever having a SOD.
I ran stock on my S2, did an update, phone started locking up.
I switched to ParanoidAndroid, and my stability increased from there on out. Never had a problem with that rom.